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Sherwin Andal 09-01-2006, 04:14 AM I admire Mr. Parc Cruz' work very much, especially the ones having the gothic effect. I wonder if Mr. Cruz can teach newbies like me on how to create such an amazing effect - in detail - hehehe! Thank you Sir Parc in advance. *salute* :)
Earl Gonzalez 09-01-2006, 06:33 AM I admire Mr. Parc Cruz' work very much, especially the ones having the gothic effect. I wonder if Mr. Cruz can teach newbies like me on how to create such an amazing effect - in detail - hehehe! Thank you Sir Parc in advance. *salute* :)
:) Well, try to PM Park... Maybe he'd be willing to share his stuff...
Dys Santos 09-01-2006, 09:31 AM There are also other ends to admiring someone else's works - make it our inspiration to experiment on filters and tools; and of course, to develop our own photographic style.
Personally, I think Parc Cruz's "gothic" style is his own, so I don't want to ask him for a tutorial on how he does the tricks with his photographs. But I bet he can share a little step-by-step on which filters and tools to use.
Earl Gonzalez 09-01-2006, 01:52 PM There are also other ends to admiring someone else's works - make it our inspiration to experiment on filters and tools; and of course, to develop our own photographic style.
Personally, I think Parc Cruz's "gothic" style is his own, so I don't want to ask him for a tutorial on how he does the tricks with his photographs. But I bet he can share a little step-by-step on which filters and tools to use.
Agreed Dys. :) Artists... Photographers... Really should have their own style...
Stanley_Diongco 09-01-2006, 07:54 PM sherwin,
my idea of a gothic is a bit red skin, so why don't you give this a try.
1. mask the skin, and apply feather to soften the mask
2. desaturate it
3. increase red. selective color or color balance would do.
hope this helps, kudos!
Nick Tuason 09-01-2006, 11:10 PM I find Parc Cruz interesting. I believe he has mentioned here before that he is still trying to find his style but when he posts photos here there is a style definitely. I don't know if Goth would be the right word to describe it though. Parc did have one thread here where he showed some of his photoshop moves for a certain image. Try to check out the archives.
If I recall correctly Parc normally:
1) plays with skin tones using Hue Saturation layer by going to the Red and/or Yellow colors
2) Runs either Unsharp Mask or the High Pass filter pretty aggressively
3) usually puts a vignette by using curves
There might be more but probably not much more. The Photoshop moves are the easiest. The way he composes his image and the emotions he draws from the subject are the difficult part.
estan_cabigas 09-02-2006, 12:24 AM i guess, you need to learn first the different photoshop tools and from there, apply it artistically to your image.
willie de vera 09-02-2006, 12:25 AM i don't think mr. parc will like his images being branded as gothic.. he is still in a stage of experimenting.. maybe what you saw lately were some dark (gothic) renderings to his images which actually are still evolving..
here are some of his latest playful experimentations..:)
http://static.flickr.com/94/229875524_13585d25c9.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/98/229131558_b21417b357.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/73/228183655_4cf0a9fae2.jpg
rhea_ongyiu 09-02-2006, 09:22 AM I think photoshop is just the tip of the iceberg. I have seen this genius at work and I noticed that the way PARC composes his photos, he already has an end in mind so I guess composition is key. His imagination runs wild thus he never fail to amaze and amuse people. Personally, I would say his photos are far from gothic. But calling it "Parc's Way" has some nice ring to it, don't you think so?
edlin_roguel 09-02-2006, 09:41 AM Actually, if you really just want to know how he did it, you may search the internet for some photoshop tips and tricks in rendering those kind of images. :)
And also, you may ask him personally thru PM for those sites. He's not selfish, I'm sure he'll share it. But don't assume that he'll show you his workflow step-by-step. Just learn how use PS (the basics and some advance tools) and use your creativity to develop your own style. :)
Earl Gonzalez 09-02-2006, 10:01 AM I think photoshop is just the tip of the iceberg. I have seen this genius at work and I noticed that the way PARC composes his photos, he already has an end in mind so I guess composition is key. His imagination runs wild thus he never fail to amaze and amuse people. Personally, I would say his photos are far from gothic. But calling it "Parc's Way" has some nice ring to it, don't you think so?
I can't speak for Parc though... But for me and most of my colleagues who are "Photoshop etc. Super Freaks..." Most of the time we envision or conceptualize a composition up to the post processing phase and final delivery first; and then gather material... :Grin:
Jen_Yu 09-03-2006, 11:13 AM I think photoshop is just the tip of the iceberg. I have seen this genius at work and I noticed that the way PARC composes his photos, he already has an end in mind so I guess composition is key. His imagination runs wild thus he never fail to amaze and amuse people. Personally, I would say his photos are far from gothic. But calling it "Parc's Way" has some nice ring to it, don't you think so?
yup, nice ring. and it is his way, his outlet, his hobby.... as with all artists, it is how he expresses himself. :) and you can ask him, he's very approachable, and he entertains questions whenever he's not busy with his work.
(hello Philip, love kita :) sayang wala ka yesterday)
jay jallorina 09-04-2006, 09:40 AM I can't speak for Parc though... But for me and most of my colleagues who are "Photoshop etc. Super Freaks..." Most of the time we envision or conceptualize a composition up to the post processing phase and final delivery first; and then gather material... :Grin:
this is so true. i think devoted artists use photoshop this way, as an integral part of the whole photographic/artistic process...not just a software or tool to correct flaws in the original capture. i try to think of a mood or a certain look...i'll always have that in mind...then i go look for material/venues which will fit the concept brewing in my head. post-processing is just the final step, a way to stamp style into a photo i took.
kudo's to parc for having his own personal style. its not just photoshop...its the entire process...
Earl Gonzalez 09-04-2006, 09:54 AM this is so true. i think devoted artists use photoshop this way, as an integral part of the whole photographic/artistic process...not just a software or tool to correct flaws in the original capture. i try to think of a mood or a certain look...i'll always have that in mind...then i go look for material/venues which will fit the concept brewing in my head. post-processing is just the final step, a way to stamp style into a photo i took.
kudo's to parc for having his own personal style. its not just photoshop...its the entire process...
It's so nice to meet people who can see you eye to eye in the same wavelength! :)
Thanks Jay. :)
Sherwin Andal 09-06-2006, 03:24 AM :Oops: okay, sorry for the term "gothic"... and "Parc's Way"'s good!
I know its Mr. Parc's style and I know - we should also have our own - but I think there's no harm in asking for some tips from sir Parc... learn from other people then learn for yourself, right? that is what this forum is for... okay, I give up on the "step by step", sorry for the words, hehe! simple words from Mr. Parc will do. don't have any plans of immitating him, just want to know how.
thank you guys for the replies and tips shared. :)
alfie_mallari 09-06-2006, 02:06 PM :) hi sherwin! well im not as good as the others here but i know a lil and would like it to share to you. i only have two steps in creating such gothic or dark art, as others would call.
1. it is true that the very first thing you should have is the idea of what you would want to create. and, the better the composition, the less manipulations you have to do.
2. play and experiment. photoshop have lots of filters, textures, etc. do not be afraid to try them all out. but you dont need to know all those curves, levels, hue, and so on and so on. for now, play on what you know.
in this kind of art, you would never know what is crappy or not. you may think that you have created a nonsense piece, but when others see it, its like WOW!
well if you have time come drop by my multiply account http://bluntsight.multiply.com . i have there my so called dark art. and ill be glad to teach you on how i create them. good day sir!
^__^
mykl mabalay 09-06-2006, 02:13 PM @alfie, i like your 'darkside' images bro! good job!
alfie_mallari 09-06-2006, 02:19 PM @alfie, i like your 'darkside' images bro! good job!
ey thanks mykl! those are the products of low level cameras. :D glad you liked them.
^__^
Earl Gonzalez 09-06-2006, 07:06 PM I almost missed to view your gallery Alfie... Thanks for sharing. :)
Jen_Yu 09-06-2006, 09:01 PM :) hi sherwin! well im not as good as the others here but i know a lil and would like it to share to you. i only have two steps in creating such gothic or dark art, as others would call.
1. it is true that the very first thing you should have is the idea of what you would want to create. and, the better the composition, the less manipulations you have to do.
2. play and experiment. photoshop have lots of filters, textures, etc. do not be afraid to try them all out. but you dont need to know all those curves, levels, hue, and so on and so on. for now, play on what you know.
in this kind of art, you would never know what is crappy or not. you may think that you have created a nonsense piece, but when others see it, its like WOW!
well if you have time come drop by my multiply account http://bluntsight.multiply.com . i have there my so called dark art. and ill be glad to teach you on how i create them. good day sir!
^__^
hi alfie, i've seen the pitures na... paturo naman please? thanks :D
alfie_mallari 09-06-2006, 09:52 PM I almost missed to view your gallery Alfie... Thanks for sharing. :)
OT na tyo hehehe
thanks earl for dropin by. if there would be any tips and tricks you could share, pakibulong na lng po hehehe.
jen, i pmd you sa multiply a link of some tutorials. check mu :Grin: then pm mu n lng aku if ever malito ka. hirap kasi isalaysay un pag gawa nun e. hehehe.
Earl Gonzalez 09-07-2006, 08:39 AM OT na tyo hehehe
thanks earl for dropin by. if there would be any tips and tricks you could share, pakibulong na lng po hehehe.
No problem Alfie... Sige I'll conjure up something... :Grin: In retrospect, maybe the other photoshop gurus here could make a separate tutorial thread for those interested... :)
Jen_Yu 09-07-2006, 10:32 AM Alfie thanks for the tutorial. will pm you in case i meet difficulties :D
mykl mabalay 09-07-2006, 11:11 AM @alfie...pwede rin pa-pm ng links? ty
Sherwin Andal 09-08-2006, 03:17 AM :) hi sherwin! well im not as good as the others here but i know a lil and would like it to share to you. i only have two steps in creating such gothic or dark art, as others would call.
1. it is true that the very first thing you should have is the idea of what you would want to create. and, the better the composition, the less manipulations you have to do.
2. play and experiment. photoshop have lots of filters, textures, etc. do not be afraid to try them all out. but you dont need to know all those curves, levels, hue, and so on and so on. for now, play on what you know.
in this kind of art, you would never know what is crappy or not. you may think that you have created a nonsense piece, but when others see it, its like WOW!
well if you have time come drop by my multiply account http://bluntsight.multiply.com . i have there my so called dark art. and ill be glad to teach you on how i create them. good day sir!
^__^
Thank you very much for the offer, Dark Arts Teacher...
alfie_mallari 09-09-2006, 06:22 AM @alfie...pwede rin pa-pm ng links? ty
hi mykl! youve got pm
^__^
leni llapitan 11-19-2006, 12:24 AM OT na tyo hehehe
jen, i pmd you sa multiply a link of some tutorials. check mu :Grin: then pm mu n lng aku if ever malito ka. hirap kasi isalaysay un pag gawa nun e. hehehe.
alfie...mind sharing the link? thanks
jake_amora 11-19-2006, 12:38 AM Alfie, Galing! pa pm din po nung link! :)
Thanxs! :) :)
don_garchitorena 11-19-2006, 12:50 AM @alfie
tindi ng imagination mo pre :) armed with the right skills and tools, imagination is the only limit.... unfortunately both are my limitations :Grin:
interested din ako makita ang techniques :) thanks
pipo_domagas 12-15-2006, 02:35 PM I find Parc Cruz interesting. I believe he has mentioned here before that he is still trying to find his style but when he posts photos here there is a style definitely. I don't know if Goth would be the right word to describe it though. Parc did have one thread here where he showed some of his photoshop moves for a certain image. Try to check out the archives.
If I recall correctly Parc normally:
1) plays with skin tones using Hue Saturation layer by going to the Red and/or Yellow colors
2) Runs either Unsharp Mask or the High Pass filter pretty aggressively
3) usually puts a vignette by using curves
There might be more but probably not much more. The Photoshop moves are the easiest. The way he composes his image and the emotions he draws from the subject are the difficult part.
i agree with you nick...high pass filter w/overlay shouldn't be missed out....and a little dodging n burning w/ overlay might as well help also.
Dys Santos 12-16-2006, 01:34 AM He he, dark arts teacher. :D
Dark Arts Teacher...
ryan rios 12-26-2006, 12:10 AM No problem Alfie... Sige I'll conjure up something... :Grin: In retrospect, maybe the other photoshop gurus here could make a separate tutorial thread for those interested... :)
im interested fafa earl, i really want to learn photoshop.........
Earl Gonzalez 12-26-2006, 05:08 AM im interested fafa earl, i really want to learn photoshop.........
Text mo ako Bro.! :)
Rodel Ramos 04-09-2007, 03:03 PM OT na tyo hehehe
thanks earl for dropin by. if there would be any tips and tricks you could share, pakibulong na lng po hehehe.
jen, i pmd you sa multiply a link of some tutorials. check mu :Grin: then pm mu n lng aku if ever malito ka. hirap kasi isalaysay un pag gawa nun e. hehehe.
Sir, Im interested also. Can you do the same for me (pm the kink). Thanks.
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