hey randy, when is this coming in? :) 250x faster? wow!

from Engadget:
Epson's about to let loose a couple of bumps to its line of portable photo viewers / media players, tossing the P-2000 and P-4000 to the curb in favor of the numerically-enhanced P-3000 and P-5000. Both models retain the same 40GB and 80GB hard drives of their predecessors as well as SD and CompactFlash slots (other formats'll need an adapter-- so sorry, dear xD), with each getting a slight boost in screen size to a full four inches (up from 3.8 inches). The biggest benefit, however, seems to be an increase in operating speed -- a mighty 250% faster, according to Epson. The units also continue to blur the line between photo viewers and portable media players, boasting a hefty line-up of video support (including DivX) as well as MP3 and AAC audio support. Look for these to hit stores before the end of the year for $499 and $699, respectively.

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2006/08/epson0,1425,sz=1i=138053,0.jpg

250x faster ey... i sure do hope so... the p2000 is quite slow in my book..

Great news! I was a bit disappointed with my P4000 as far as review of pictures was concerned. It was a great travelling HD. But, when some of my friends asked to see the pictures, all I saw for the most part was that stupid hourglass.:Grin:

Wow! Sure am glad I decided to hold out. No wonder the P4500 was never readily available. :)

Nice, the P-5000's a dope! I hope its as fast as it says.

Its just the $699 pricetag.

Paging Mr. Randy Kanapi! When po kaya magkakaroon nito dito sa market natin?

im waiting for this one. im yet to own a portable drive

here are more info on the P3000 and the P5000

http://www.photokina-show.com/0431/epson/photoviewer/epsonp3000viewer/

http://www.photokina-show.com/0432/epson/photoviewer/epsonp5000viewer/

Its just the $699 pricetag.

Paging Mr. Randy Kanapi! When po kaya magkakaroon nito dito sa market natin?

ubusin n inyo muna P2000 namin hahaha, will keep you posted within the week...or some hint that is

ubusin n inyo muna P2000 namin hahaha, will keep you posted within the week...or some hint that is

It says the new ones are 250X faster than the P2000, how slow is the P2000? I've been contemplating on getting a P2000, but the 250X faster P3000 just makes me think otherwise.

Do you have an test units? PM me nalang regarding this.

This could be in the market this coming Christmas holiday season. It's slated to be released on November 20.

Just going back to the original article, I think I misinterpreted the 250% to be 250x. So its basically 2.5x faster. I think I'll wait out for the P3000 or hopefull the P5000 if budget permits.

I'm still waiting for the Epson P5000... Christmas is right around the corner... Any news?

Hi guys, I'm looking into a PMP for my oics, how does this compare to the creative vision wide? Is this much better and how?

graabe randy ang pogi nung p5000! ipasok niyo dito yan ha! mukhang magkakaroon ng kapatid yung p4000 ko pag ganyan hahaha!

for the price, the P2000 does magic... am happy with it.

for the price, the P2000 does magic... am happy with it.

enjoying your new toy classmate?:D

the newer models definitely are better/faster... but why wait for it to hit the stalls wherein you can enjoy having a portable viewer/HD for a good price - now.:)

enjoying my p2000 for 3 months now.. never failed me:Grin: .

hi

i got tired of waiting... bought myself a P5000. i'm happy with it. :) fast transfer rate...

fyi, got it at HKD$5000...

thanks

@Randy - dude, hows fast is the transfer rate for 2 gig CF?

transfer rate..approximately 155 seconds for 1GB of data from a Compact Flash card according to this link.. :-)
http://www.photokina-show.com/0432/epson/accessories/epsonp5000viewer/

hi

i got tired of waiting... bought myself a P5000. i'm happy with it. :) fast transfer rate...

fyi, got it at HKD$5000...

thanks

I wonder how much the retail price here will be. HKD5000 is roughly about PHP33000

I wonder how much the retail price here will be. HKD5000 is roughly about PHP33000

Roughly P50k, Infomax price...

@taks - thanks the info bro.

@chris - did you get one? is it really fast?

Roughly P50k, Infomax price...

50k? WOW! Highway robbery!

50k? WOW! Highway robbery!

especially for gray imports..

product manager for this is Heidi Co btw from epson..

heids -- floor is yours..

Hi, guys. Where can I get the Epson P3000 here in Manila (I would prefer it with local warranty)? Any idea of its MSRP? Thanks

Hi, guys. Where can I get the Epson P3000 here in Manila (I would prefer it with local warranty)? Any idea of its MSRP? Thanks

i don't think epson carries the p3000 though i know they have nw models coming out

50k? WOW! Highway robbery!

Infomaxx eh. Usually the highest priced gray market seller.

hi

i got tired of waiting... bought myself a P5000. i'm happy with it. :) fast transfer rate...

fyi, got it at HKD$5000...

thanks

How about the speed of reviewing your pictures on the screen? Any faster? My old p4000 is REALLY SLOW when it comes to reviewing and scrolling photos.

i don't think epson carries the p3000 though i know they have nw models coming out
I actually e-mailed Heidi Co of Epson about the availability of the P3000. She said that it will be introduced to the local market by the end of March 07.

But you can get a Jobo Giga Vu Pro Evolution for 35k NOW. :| I kind of like the Epson, I hope the price point will be reasonable once it comes out in March.

Hi guys,

we have already received initial batches for the products, it will be definitely be out in the market witihin this month. Price to be announced very soon.

There will be 2 models. P3000=40GB, P-5000=80GB
it will be 2.5X faster than P2000. For the meantime, here are the features of the products:


4 color Filters
4” TFT
VGA/198 ppi, 16.7 million colors
Jpeg, Tiff, Raw
Slide show mode
Histogram display
400% Enlargement
88% Adobe RGB color Ratio

MP3/AAC/WMA lMpeg 1/2/3/4SP/4ASP
DivX/WMV9/Motion Jpeg



PictBridge
PhotoEnhance
Auto Scene Detection
P-3000/5000 color gamut area is 1.98 times wider than P-2000
P-3000/5000 LCD brightness is 1.9 times brighter than P-2000 with high illuminant type LED
Adobe RGB gamut utilization is about 88%
sRGB color gamut utilization is about 117%

holy lord. you gotta send us a demo unit here mam for testing.

ok. will do :)

I saw the P-5000 at MegaMall (4th floor) this past January.

$$$

I saw the P-5000 at MegaMall (4th floor) this past January.

$$$

@Arthur: What exactly is the price of $$$?:)

@Arthur: What exactly is the price of $$$?:)

If Arthur saw it from the same store, it costs about Php45k! :)

wow pricey... much cheaper here in hk...

If Arthur saw it from the same store, it costs about Php45k! :)

That's the one! I forget the name of the store, but it is the same store where I bought my 4GB Sandisk Extreme IV CF card. I remember doing the currency conversion in my head and my eyes almost popping out of their sockets...it's over $1000 Canadian!!!

That's the one! I forget the name of the store, but it is the same store where I bought my 4GB Sandisk Extreme IV CF card. I remember doing the currency conversion in my head and my eyes almost popping out of their sockets...it's over $1000 Canadian!!!

Hahaha! It's Infomax. :)

If Arthur saw it from the same store, it costs about Php45k! :)

Holy Shhhhh.......!!:Angry:

I'm like a kid in a candy store on the 4th floor of Megamall or any place where there are a bunch of electronics stores all grouped together...only in the Philippines! I love it there!

@Arthur

Whenever I am in the Makati mall area, I always pass by Infomaxx in Park Square. Just to look but never buy... except my Lowepro Shoulder Strap which was hard to find and was reasonably priced. :-)

Infomaxx is my favorite look-see photo shop. ;-)

@dindin, where is Park Square? Is it near Glorietta? I am definitely going to have to check that out whenever I go back.

@Arthur

Park Square I, yes, there's a PS II, is located across Dusit Hotel along Arnaiz Ave. (former Pasay Road). Infomaxx is near the Mr. Magoo's entrance by Mercury Drug.

HTH

Ahhh, OK, I think I have it. I know where Arnaiz and the Dusit Hotel are, now I just need to go back :D. Thanks again!

official pricing is already final..

P3000 - 29,995.00
P5000 - 41,995.00

6 mos. 0% interest.

Units availability will be first week of April.. :)

Oh, wow... not so far from Infomaxx' 45k!!! I thought it would only go for around 35-38k.

official pricing is already final..

P3000 - 29,995.00
P5000 - 41,995.00

6 mos. 0% interest.

Units availability will be first week of April.. :)


Cool. Where do I line-up for the P3000? :)

official pricing is already final..

P3000 - 29,995.00
P5000 - 41,995.00

6 mos. 0% interest.

Units availability will be first week of April.. :)

ooh sign me up!

hi dindin,

the price is really high, but you get a 1 year warranty :)

Hi Heidi!

Lapit na April. Harhar. Still fiddling with the budget, but just in case, where can I get a P3000 with 0% interest? :)

will announce next week.. http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/party/party0011.gif (http://www.mysmiley.net)

Ayan may price nadin! Oh no.... GAS.... must sell kidney...

Lapit na next week... :Grin:

ok, Epson launched 3 new products this month. 1 A3+ inkjet printer and 2 models of Multimedia viewers:

Stylus Photo 1390, a3+, 6 individual inks. Php 21,995.00 ink= 450.00 per color

Epson P-3000 (40gb) - 29,995.00, P-5000(80gb) - Php41,995.00
6 months 0% interest

all above items can be purchased from the following:
Hurricane
PC Cartel- Dagupan
Thinking Tools - Cebu
All Silicon Valley Branches
IECC, BCG, Emcor- Davao
PC Chain
Villman
PC express

to avoid incovenience of stock shortage, please call them first or pre-order before purchase.

thanks guys.

Alright! :D

All Silicon Valley Branches
PC Chain
Villman
PC express


any of these stores located in either megamall or shangrila?

There's a Villman in SM Megamall.

MEGAMALL BRANCH
CyberZone 4th Floor, Bldg. B
SM Megamall, Mandaluyong City
Tel: 683-0532 to 33

Office Hours: 10:00 AM to 9:00 PM Mon-Sun

thanks alan!

went to villman and silicon valley at megamall, they had no idea what the epson p3000 was....but infomax had the p5000 (didn't bother to ask how much)

went to villman and silicon valley at megamall, they had no idea what the epson p3000 was....but infomax had the p5000 (didn't bother to ask how much)

so did you finally take plunge man?:)

so did you finally take plunge man?:)

almost :) maybe in a few days..haha...thanks for the help levi! appreciate it much :)

almost maybe in a few days..haha...thanks for the help levi! appreciate it much

no problem man.. just make sure to torture test it... there are lemon units out there :)

advance congratulations!!:)

@Heidi

I hope you can help me with my P2000 problem. Been patiently calling and texting Mr. Edgar but to no avail.

The defective replacement unit is still with me.

Frustrated,
Dindin

@Heidi

I hope you can help me with my P2000 problem. Been patiently calling and texting Mr. Edgar but to no avail.

The defective replacement unit is still with me.

good luck din. hope everything works out well.

Since Wednesday, I've texted Epson, called their office
(813-6567), called the cell phone (0917-8526003 Edgar Barcellano) more than 100x. No answer. No answer until the line goes dead. No answer until the line goes dead.

(they connect me... the phone stops ringing, goes back to the operator.. reconnects... stops ringing... goes back to the operator... been on the phone for 30 minutes and this is already the 5th attempt today... am I quitting, no way!)

Am I upset?

Am I frustrated?

I really hope I'm just calling the wrong numbers or I'll really think their customer service isn't good.

whoah....that's not good news at all...:(

whoah....that's not good news at all...:(

Just be wary of getting 'Brand New Old Stock' gadgets. I'm sure the new P3000/P5000 won't have the same problems we 'P2000' users had.

P-2000 Update:

I was finally lucky to have spoken with Mr. Samuel Arada, head of Customer Service group and he informed me that he will forward my concern to the CS Group (which he leads :Thinking: ).

I'll get a feedback by Monday.

Wish me luck.

wishing a P5000 for you :)

P-2000 Update:

I was finally lucky to have spoken with Mr. Samuel Arada, head of Customer Service group and he informed me that he will forward my concern to the CS Group (which he leads :Thinking: ).

I'll get a feedback by Monday.

Wish me luck.

Din,

will pray you get the p5000 as a replacement...:Grin:

@din

im sorry to hear the on-going problem with Epson....Try Creative Zen W :)

on a serious note, you can always check with DTI regarding replacement...I will check with Norman he's very much informed about these stuf.

hey red, i was thinking about the creative zen w....but when i tested the unit at electroworld in MOA it could not read RAW files... you will have to shoot RAW+JPEG all the time so you can view the JPEG file...the creative will read the RAW in the sense that it will recognize the existence of the RAW file but you can't view it on the creative

thanks, guys! will keep you posted.

all above items can be purchased from the following:
All Silicon Valley Branches
PC Chain
Villman
PC express


@hiedi

been to silicon valley and villman brances in both megamall and MOA, they always have a dumbfounded look whenever i inquire about the p3000, a look like they don't know what i was talking about....was ready to buy the item off the bat....what store has it in stock now?

thanks!

hey red, i was thinking about the creative zen w....but when i tested the unit at electroworld in MOA it could not read RAW files... you will have to shoot RAW+JPEG all the time so you can view the JPEG file...the creative will read the RAW in the sense that it will recognize the existence of the RAW file but you can't view it on the creative

I was looking at the Creative Zen W, too. Then I read that it doesn't work on Macs. I guess the P3000 will have to be it. Too bad it can't be found among the retailers.

I guess the P3000 will have to be it. Too bad it can't be found among the retailers.

i know...kinda irritating...hate the 'check with supplier and wait for 2-3 days'....:Angry:

Gee... and here I was planning to get a P-3000 this coming weekend... Wonder if there will be stock... I'd better call to make sure...

Gee... and here I was planning to get a P-3000 this coming weekend... Wonder if there will be stock... I'd better call to make sure...

i just called villman (megamall) and i placed an order for pick up on wednesday

i just called villman (megamall) and i placed an order for pick up on wednesday

@Hochi

Did you have to leave a downpayment? Villman in Park Square requires a downpayment before putting in an order.

I'll probably get from the one in Market-Market as its more accessible to me.

Cheers!

ubusin n inyo muna P2000 namin hahaha, will keep you posted within the week...or some hint that is

Hey Randy,

How much? been looking for seller of P2000

enjoying your new toy classmate?:D

the newer models definitely are better/faster... but why wait for it to hit the stalls wherein you can enjoy having a portable viewer/HD for a good price - now.:)

enjoying my p2000 for 3 months now.. never failed me:Grin: .

Hi Levi, How much did you get your P2000? Where? Is it still available? :)

I saw a P2000 at Electroworld Alabang Town Center last week. Their phone numbers are 772-3254 to 56

Hi Levi, How much did you get your P2000? Where? Is it still available? :)

@ Cezar

I saw a unit in Electroworld Park Square 1. It costs just a shade under PHP20K. :)

My P-2000 Ordeal Update:

Last Monday, Mr. Excel (asked by Mr. Samuel) called me to inform me that they'll replace it. I asked when the replacement will arrive and they said they'll let me know.

This morning, I texted him to ask them when the estimate date of arrival but they haven't replied. I texted him 4x today but still no reply. Called 2x but Mr. Samuel nor Mr. Excel were there.

There, that's my update.

It's now Day 17 after P-2000 was brought to Epson CS. I wonder if I now truly deserve a P-5000.

Hi Levi, How much did you get your P2000? Where? Is it still available? :)

got it for 19,999.00 (3 months 0% interest in avant). that was then.

i heard that they are offering it at the same price @ 12 months 0%:)

@Hochi

Did you have to leave a downpayment? Villman in Park Square requires a downpayment before putting in an order.

I'll probably get from the one in Market-Market as its more accessible to me.

Cheers!

just got it this afternoon.

fun.

nope, no downpayment required. i called them last monday and told them i was ready to get one if they had it on stock, so they immediately placed an order

Hi Levi, How much did you get your P2000? Where? Is it still available? :)

i saw one in silicon valley moa

My P-2000 Ordeal Update:

Last Monday, Mr. Excel (asked by Mr. Samuel) called me to inform me that they'll replace it. I asked when the replacement will arrive and they said they'll let me know.

This morning, I texted him to ask them when the estimate date of arrival but they haven't replied. I texted him 4x today but still no reply. Called 2x but Mr. Samuel nor Mr. Excel were there.

There, that's my update.

It's now Day 17 after P-2000 was brought to Epson CS. I wonder if I now truly deserve a P-5000.

hey din, that's a bummer :(

infomax in megamall had a p5000 on display

I saw someone selling P-5000s for 30k in an egroup

P-2000 Update:

I was finally lucky to have spoken with Mr. Samuel Arada, head of Customer Service group and he informed me that he will forward my concern to the CS Group (which he leads :Thinking: ).

I'll get a feedback by Monday.

Wish me luck.

Good luck Dindin !!!!! How unbecoming of a head of Customer Service naman - He's talking to you na nga so why can't he take care of it na - tsk! tsk!

I also have a P-2000 and have been very happy with it's performance but ever since I saw the P-5000, I have been battling with myself if I should get a higher capacity one. After reading about how their customer service head takes care of one their customers - why in heaven's name would I even support a company who does not seem to have a very good customer service department <--- this is MY opinion with all the products that we buy so I hope nobody out there crucifies me for stating an opinion that I truly believe in :):Dum:

ok guys,

I think this is already getting out of hand. Anyway, although this is a CS issue, I have managed to meddle myself into this. I just spoken to Mr. Arada, yes, it will be replaced.

Because the stocks are limited because it was just recently launched, we have waited for the additional shipment to come in. Finally, the stocks have came in. We are expecting the unit of dindin to be ready if not today, tomorrow.

Sorry for the delay dindin.

We are currently reorganizing our company, so groupings are still not final. The mobile phone that received the text message was a company phone which is being left in the office after work hours, I believe the text message was received at 8am. work hours is from 9am to 6pm.

anyway, I can be your window person for epson if you need any issues resolved. Just drop me a message here.

@Tina

I totally agree with you when it comes to aftersales service. I actually don't mind paying more for things if it entails better service (i.e. clothes store, supermarket, bookstore, restaurants, spa, etc.).

I've really been patient with Epson and I still am (even after losing over 2000 RAW images in that hard disk crash). Oh, and believe me when I say that these multimedia viewers are really great gadgets to have. I really like them. (That's why I'm not giving up on this journey.)


@Heidi

Thanks for mediating my cause. All I really want to know was when I'll get it. If Mr. Arada just informed me when, then I won't be wondering every single day. If he tells me I'll get it in three weeks, I won't be calling every single day until the 21st day comes. (Because I myself don't like being nagged.)

My frustration, besides losing my photos, is that there was no response. Based from my conversation with Mr. Arada last Friday, he assured me that he'll handle my case personally and it was a relief... a new hope again.

Just for clarification, the text messages were sent during office hours. So were the phone calls made. Again, all I needed was a single reply.

Thank you very much for facilitating. I really appreciate it.


Best regards,
Dindin

@Tina

I totally agree with you when it come to aftersales service. I actually don't mind paying more for things if it entails better service (i.e. clothes store, supermarket, bookstore, restaurants, spa, etc.).

I've really been patient with Epson and I still am (even after losing over 2000 RAW images in that hard disk crash). Oh, and believe me when I say that these multimedia viewers are really great gadgets to have. I really like them. (That's why I'm not giving up on this journey.)

@Dindin: I admire your patience, and I totally agree with you that paying more won't really matter as long as you're served properly and on time. I hope you'll get your P3000 soon.

PS... just of the thought of lossing 2000+ RAW images is already like lossing my gord!!!

@dindin,

i'm really surprised you haven't gotten back a replacement for your p2000. anak ng tipaklong (translated: son of a grasshopper)! and i thought you lost 200 raw files (which is unthinkable already), 2,000 pala. really makes me think twice about buying an epson image viewer (and i nearly bought one last december). i agree with you about better customer service. naiintindihan naman natin na servicing takes time. but being given a reply/response shouldn't take ages. ano ba naman yung 5 minute call or a text message to assure us customers that our plight is being taken cared of.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/oggie
http://www.oggieblog.blogspot.com

@dindin,

on second thought, the very least you deserve is a p5000. 2,000 raw images lost? can you ever put a price on images lost forever?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/oggie
http://www.oggieblog.blogspot.com

Just got word from Mr. Edgar B. (yep dealing with 4 people now) that my P-3000 is arriving in their office today. So, I should be able to get it tomorrow morning.

Thanks in advance, Heidi, Edgar, Samuel and Excel.

I'll post a photo of it as soon as I get it tomorrow!

Thanks for the moral support, guys!!!

@dindin,

on second thought, the very least you deserve is a p5000. 2,000 raw images lost? can you ever put a price on images lost forever?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/oggie
http://www.oggieblog.blogspot.com


I wish... but won't that make me abusive? hehehheheheh...

back to waiting mode... happy this time...

I'd rather buy more CF cards. :)

@Jerry

Just make sure you number them and make sure you have a CF pouch so that you don't misplace them.

@Jerry

Just make sure you number them and make sure you have a CF pouch so that you don't misplace them.

Very good advice... of course, the one upside of the Epson is you can actually view your images. So far, haven't heard of HD problems with any of the other models... only the P2000. :)

@rosalie

that's why i still want to have an Epson. ;-)

Just got word from Mr. Edgar B. (yep dealing with 4 people now) that my P-3000 is arriving in their office today. So, I should be able to get it tomorrow morning.

Thanks in advance, Heidi, Edgar, Samuel and Excel.

I'll post a photo of it as soon as I get it tomorrow!

Thanks for the moral support, guys!!!

@Din: I'm glad to hear, you'll have it by tomorrow! That's really good news...after such a long wait!

P-2000, oops, P-3000 Update:

I just got my P-3000 and I'm very happy. It looks so much more beautiful in real life than in the photos I saw online (it's not chromy... it's actually dark matte grey and black). I turned it on to set the language, time and date. I'm charging the battery now.

To all those who made the wait shorter and bearable, many many thanks!!!


@Heidi

Thank you very much. My next inquiry would be: How much is a spare battery for this and where can I get one? Thanks in advance.

congrats classmate!

now its time to put that smile back :)

@levi

trust me, it's back.

will tinker around with it in a few minutes. thanks for the moral support!!! and that goes to everyone that kept me calm and patient!!!

@Heidi

Thank you very much. My next inquiry would be: How much is a spare battery for this and where can I get one? Thanks in advance.

@ Heidi

Same question as Dindin's. Is a spare battery available? :Grin:

@levi

trust me, it's back.

will tinker around with it in a few minutes. thanks for the moral support!!! and that goes to everyone that kept me calm and patient!!!

just in case something wrong happens again....think happy thoughts...and smash the thing on the floor, thereafter....think happy thoughts again.....

just in case something wrong happens again....think happy thoughts...and smash the thing on the floor, thereafter....think happy thoughts again.....

hahahaha... this cracked me up!.... hahahaha :Grin:

hahahaha... this cracked me up!.... hahahaha :Grin:

I hope everything is alright with Dindin and the unit...she's not posting yet....happy thoughts....happy thoughts.....happy thoughts.....

just in case something wrong happens again....think happy thoughts...and smash the thing on the floor, thereafter....think happy thoughts again.....

Caloy!!! You are the man!!!

You are one mean thing!!! Too harsh!!! Too harsh!!! Can you actually picture me doing that? Think happy thoughts na lang!!!

Ayan.....happy thoughts pa rin! load some pix in the unit na, Dindin.

@levi

trust me, it's back.

will tinker around with it in a few minutes. thanks for the moral support!!! and that goes to everyone that kept me calm and patient!!!

So happy for you Dindin !!!!! Enjoy :)

@Caloy

Happy indeed!


@Tina

Thank you so much.


P-3000 Update:

Battery life: superb! Approximately 3x longer than my previous P2000.

Viewing Rate: Way better, too! No more long waits to load the next photo.

Portal: Friendlier... you can even put a wallpaper. It's similar to the PSP's.

Directory/Files: May now be sorted. You can now organize it the way you organize your computer files (yes, but still within categories: video, music, photos). With the P2000, you can only upload your photos (edited ones) into one directory, then copy these files into another album, which you need to name manually. And the filenames get changed to new names. Yes, tedious!

Transfer rate from Memory Card to P-3000: Since I didn't have a full card, I can't quite comment on this. But with 50 RAW files, it only took 3-4 minutes more or less.

The only observation which I found queer or maybe I'm just doing something wrong is the mounting time. With my P2000, it mounts into my mac within seconds as soon as I plug it to my USB port. But with my P3000, it takes 2-3 minutes. But, the CF and SD cards attached to my P3000 mounts just as soon as I plug it to my computer. (All-in-all, with the P3000, maximum of three volumes mounts in your computer: CF, SD and the P3000 unit. While with the P2000, only the P2000 mounts, no CF or SD even if their in the system. So, it's sort of a daisy chain type which is really cool.)

Appearance: It's gwapo! Buttons are softer. I like the 4-way scroll, dedicated zoom and unzoom buttons and the menu buttons are great. I haven't used the rating button but I'll try that later.

I really, really like this P3000.

Thanks again, everybody!!!

Oh, and for those who are wondering where they can get spare batteries, Mr. Excel informed me that you can order it from any Epson Service Center. It's on a per-order basis. Price? No advise yet.

Another option is to order it from B&H.

But if you're not a heavy user, I think for as long as you always lug the charger with you, then you'll be fine with just one battery. As for me, I'll know after next weekend.

Again, this is a great photography gadget to have.

@dindin
Finally, you're enjoying your new toy!!! :)

@dindin
Btw, there's a firmware update for the P3000. :) Check your unit if it has been updated (Firmware v.01.10).

P-3000 Update:

Battery life: superb! Approximately 3x longer than my previous P2000.

Viewing Rate: Way better, too! No more long waits to load the next photo.

Portal: Friendlier... you can even put a wallpaper. It's similar to the PSP's.



Dindin: What do you mean by no more long waits to load next photo? How much faster? Instantaneous? 1-2 seconds? Im curious because Im interested in getting one also. And, since my P4000 is super slow in loading large jpeg files, I think its time to upgrade.:)

@Rosalie

Just finished upagrading the firmware... :) :)

@JP

With Large-Jpeg, instantaneous... with RAW, almost instantaneous.

It's definitely worth upgrading to. Interface is so much friendlier, too! I'll show it to you the next time we see each other. :) :D

P-2000, oops, P-3000 Update:

I just got my P-3000 and I'm very happy. It looks so much more beautiful in real life than in the photos I saw online (it's not chromy... it's actually dark matte grey and black). I turned it on to set the language, time and date. I'm charging the battery now.

To all those who made the wait shorter and bearable, many many thanks!!!
wow congrats din...how much? planning to get the p2000 but after what happend to your unit i think ill save muna :)

Dindin: What do you mean by no more long waits to load next photo? How much faster? Instantaneous? 1-2 seconds? Im curious because Im interested in getting one also. And, since my P4000 is super slow in loading large jpeg files, I think its time to upgrade.:)

@jp
Do you have the same experience as Dindin (with her P2000)... RAW files loads faster than large JPEG? :Thinking:

wow congrats din...how much? planning to get the p2000 but after what happend to your unit i think ill save muna :)

@taks
Dindin got the P3000 as a replacement for her P2000. :) It's being sold for about 30k, 6mos. to pay, no interest.

@taks
Dindin got the P3000 as a replacement for her P2000. :) It's being sold for about 30k, 6mos. to pay, no interest.
thanks rosalie :) hoping to get one soon..gotta save first...:Grin:

@Caloy

Happy indeed!


@Tina

Thank you so much.


P-3000 Update:

Battery life: superb! Approximately 3x longer than my previous P2000.

Viewing Rate: Way better, too! No more long waits to load the next photo.

Portal: Friendlier... you can even put a wallpaper. It's similar to the PSP's.

Directory/Files: May now be sorted. You can now organize it the way you organize your computer files (yes, but still within categories: video, music, photos). With the P2000, you can only upload your photos (edited ones) into one directory, then copy these files into another album, which you need to name manually. And the filenames get changed to new names. Yes, tedious!

Transfer rate from Memory Card to P-3000: Since I didn't have a full card, I can't quite comment on this. But with 50 RAW files, it only took 3-4 minutes more or less.

The only observation which I found queer or maybe I'm just doing something wrong is the mounting time. With my P2000, it mounts into my mac within seconds as soon as I plug it to my USB port. But with my P3000, it takes 2-3 minutes. But, the CF and SD cards attached to my P3000 mounts just as soon as I plug it to my computer. (All-in-all, with the P3000, maximum of three volumes mounts in your computer: CF, SD and the P3000 unit. While with the P2000, only the P2000 mounts, no CF or SD even if their in the system. So, it's sort of a daisy chain type which is really cool.)

Appearance: It's gwapo! Buttons are softer. I like the 4-way scroll, dedicated zoom and unzoom buttons and the menu buttons are great. I haven't used the rating button but I'll try that later.

I really, really like this P3000.

Thanks again, everybody!!!

@Dindin: T'was worth the wait after all, I'm happy for you... :)

@Rosalie, Taks and Donna

Many thanks...

Watched 3 episodes of GA before the battery got drained... that's 3 times more battery life than the P2000. Looks like there will be no need for a spare battery after all.

Is it still advisable to buy the P-2000?

Just got back from Batanes and brought along my P3000. Very good unit.

Battery life, well full charged the day before I left (Wednesday) and only chaged it once in Batanes around Friday night - only because I kept on viewing my pics on the P3000.

Transfer rate is very impressive, had a full 2-GB CF and it transferred all files (at RAW) in less than 2 minutes.

Viewing quality is also superb on the 4" display.

Easy to use, didn't even read manual.

Overall, a good buy - as of now.

hi guys,

am happy that you are happy :)

with regards to the batteries, i shouldn't say this but since you guys are special, here it goes.

the price of the battery from epson is expensive. am still haggling with the regional office to lower it down a bit. In japan, there are a lot of 3rd party batteries that are twice cheaper than epson. Not sure when it will be coming in the country. So my suggestion is to wait for it.

@ Heidi

Thanks for the update. :) Hopefully that extra battery won't be needed on the P3000, since the other users say the battery life is better than the previous model.

how much is the P3000 nowadays? thanks

@alan - no problem with the battery so far, maybe i was thinking it was drainig fast but then again i kept on checking on photos and deleting and so forth...so with my usage, chargin it on wed night then charging again on friday night ain't so bad

@robert please back read, the prices are listed

@jp
Do you have the same experience as Dindin (with her P2000)... RAW files loads faster than large JPEG? :Thinking:

Nope. Everything loads SLLLLLOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWLLLLLLLYYYYY on my p4000. Thats why I kinda want to upgrade.:)

hi guys,

am happy that you are happy :)

with regards to the batteries, i shouldn't say this but since you guys are special, here it goes.

the price of the battery from epson is expensive. am still haggling with the regional office to lower it down a bit. In japan, there are a lot of 3rd party batteries that are twice cheaper than epson. Not sure when it will be coming in the country. So my suggestion is to wait for it.


Thanks, Heidi!!!

In B&H Photo, it's only $59.95. FYI.

Nope. Everything loads SLLLLLOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWLLLLLLLYYYYY on my p4000. Thats why I kinda want to upgrade.:)

P5000!!! P5000!!! P5000!!! :Grin: :Grin: :Grin:

P5000!!! P5000!!! P5000!!! :Grin: :Grin: :Grin:

BI ka talaga :) I think the 3000 is an upgrade na from the 4000 except in name and HD capacity.

Okay... You should see how amazed my little girl was with it in the car earlier tonight. She rated it 5 stars!

P3000! P3000! P3000! :Grin: :Grin: :Grin:

BI ka talaga :) I think the 3000 is an upgrade na from the 4000 except in name and HD capacity.

Yes, it is! Hehehe! :D

Yes, it is! Hehehe! :D

And another BI :Angry: :D I'll wait another 2 months for feedback from Din.

Buy na! :)

Ooooh... I do so want one...

Hi Heidi, I wonder why none of your supposedly dealer/reseller stock this item. it's so frustrating to find one and a lot of times the sales guys don't even know there is one. I got so many far out replies like; is that using toner? colored ba? if you're lucky at least some like Villman Mega Mall can tell you it's "by order" only. Well Infomax has a P5000 at a price of a laptop entry level........

And another BI :Angry: :D I'll wait another 2 months for feedback from Din.

Huh! Was agreeing that the P3000 is an "upgrade na from the 4000 except in name and HD capacity". :Grin: Not as bad naman a BI.... Hahaha! :D

Huh! Was agreeing that the P3000 is an "upgrade na from the 4000 except in name and HD capacity". :Grin: Not as bad naman a BI.... Hahaha! :D

And, by agreeing that its an upgrade, you became a BI!!! :D :D

while the p3000 is great (no complaints here), suggest that if you know anyone going abroad or if you're going yourself check out the prices first. i have two friends who just got the p5000 abroad for the equivalent of the p3000 - OR LESS

Thanks for the info Hochi.

I went around looking for one this PM.

@V: PS1
me (to guy1 at the V entrance): hi, do you have the Epson Photo Viewer P-3000?
guy1: (looks at the Epson Printer Boxes)...
me: no, it is not a printer
guy2 (interrupting): sir, it is by order...
me: ok, if i order what do i need?
guy2: sir, it is 29995, it is 6 mos, zero interest, but you have to make a deposit of 2K refundable when you pick it up it will be available in 3 working days
me (talking to himself): hmm, how come Mr J.A., did not have to give d/p?
me (cont): ok, let me get back to you...

@E: PS1
me (to girl): hi, do you have the Epson P-3000 Photo Viewer?
girl: sir, we have HP. it is cheaper
me: no, I want the Epson one
girl: sir, we only have HP and Creative.
me: ok, thanks

@SV: PS1
me (to girl): hi, do you have the Epson Photo Viewer P-3000?
girl: (looks at the Epson Printer Boxes)...
me: no, it is not a printer
girl: sir, sorry, we do not have what you are looking for
me: ok, thanks

@V: MM
me (to guy at the V counter): hi, do you have the Epson Photo Viewer P-3000?
guy: (looks at the Epson Printer Boxes)...
me: no, it is not a printer, it is Photo Viewer
guy: sir, let me check the stocks
[guy comes out with a bunch of index cards]
guy (cont): sir, its 29995.
me: is it still 6mos 0 interest?
guy (calls the store supervisor and gets back to me): yes sir!
me: what do I need to do?
guy: you need 2K downpayment
me (curious): hmm, how come my friend got it here with no downpayment?
guy: is your friend Mr. J.A.?
me: yes, he is
guy: sir, you still need d/p
[supervisor interrupts]
sv: sir, it is really like that, you need to make d/p before we can place the order, we will refund it back.
me: ok, thanks, let me think about it...

@EPSON SR: MM
me: hi, where can I get an Epson Photo Viewer P-3000?
guy: sir, we do not have it here
me: i know, so which store should I order it from?
guy: sir, try Infomax, I saw one on display there
me: is their unit Epson PH warrantied?
guy: smirk
me: where can I get a P-3000 with an Epson PH warranty?
guy: sir, try SV or V, but it is by order...
me: ok, thanks!

@SV: MM
me (to girl): hi, do you have the Epson Photo Viewer P-3000?
girl (shouting): where is my Epson folder?!?
girl (comes back with folder): sir, how does it look like?
me: like that (pointing to Creative Archos)
girl: sir, how is it used?
me: you use it by inserting the CF card into it and it downloads the CF contents to the P-3000 HD
girl: oh, here it is, sir, it is P-2000
me: i want the P-3000
girl: sir, sorry, we only have P-2000, i can call the warehouse to ask if we have stocks
me: thanks, but nevermind, im looking for another model...

*Im such a cheapskate I know. I just couldnt get myself to shell out the 2K d/p. Haha... Well, not if others can get it with no d/p at all...

Im still looking for a P-3000. Then again, maybe, it is really not for me.

I sure had a good laugh today looking for one.

nope, no downpayment required. i called them last monday and told them i was ready to get one if they had it on stock, so they immediately placed an order

hey randy,

Try this number 781-0581, it's the number of Bridge Disty. Bridge handles all the dealers in Metro Manila. You can look for Anne Loreto.

I got my Epson P-5000 from Suntec for HK$4k+. So far so good. Great photo/video viewer and ample storage space with its 80GB HD.

hay....an Epson P-3000 is definitely on my wishlist....ho hum :)

hay....an Epson P-3000 is definitely on my wishlist....ho hum :)

ey guys...medyo nalilito lang ako...ung bang Epson P4000 is the earlier version ng Epson P2000? so ung latest na version ngayon is Epson P3000 which is 50GB and Epson P5000 with 80GB? tama po ba ko?

@Liz

The P2000 and the P4000 are the older models. The newer ones are the P3000 (40gb) and P5000 (80gb). :-)

Thanks Heidi! I placed my P3000 order Sunday, hopefully I get it in 3 working days (Wednesday?) :D

That HK price is tempting but reading Din's post w/ regards to her P2000 and with Heidi here helping her out, I went ahead and opted for the locally warrantied one. And besides, that 6 mos 0% interest was tempting as well.

hey randy,
Try this number 781-0581, it's the number of Bridge Disty. Bridge handles all the dealers in Metro Manila. You can look for Anne Loreto.

I got my P3000 today! Yebah!

Currently charging it. The outlet plug is for Japan, good thing I have this plug anything type powerstrip so... 2.5 more hours to go before full charge.

Anyone know where to get some Ultra Clear Brando LCD protector for P3000?

@randy

Congratulations!!! Enjoy!!! Try Digital Walker for the LCD Protector but honestly, it's not that easy to get the screen scratched.

Yipee! I'll be getting my P-3000 within the week! Can't wait to test it out... Have to wait for my 400D, though, which is still confined in the hospital for a jammed pop-up flash.

Is anyone here gonna try to get a leather case for their P-3000? I saw one in eBay. I wonder if there's any available locally.

http://www.mkworkshop.com/www/image/3BEP50B01_7.jpg
http://www.mkworkshop.com/www/image/3BEP50B01_6.jpg

I was looking at a leather case when I first bought my Epson P4500. I went with a LowePro Slip Lock Pouch 20 instead. I can attach it any of my camera bags with its velcro strap and I don't have to worry about it getting dirty.

The leather case costs only $25, exclusive of shipping.

Here's a link to the eBay page (http://cgi.ebay.com/Leather-Case-for-Epson-P-3000-P-5000_W0QQitemZ140081000289QQihZ004QQcategoryZ86534 QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem)...

For the P-3000, the Lowepro Slip Lock Pouch 30 is the better option.

For the P-3000, the Lowepro Slip Lock Pouch 30 is the better option.

Doesn't the constant pulling and slipping back into the pouch scratch-up the unit? :Shock:

Honestly, I just use the pouch that came with it. I forgot to quote Arthur's post, the SL 20 is small for the P-3000.

The leather pouch you posted is really nice but the sides are exposed... may get scratched. I use a similar case for my iPod and the exposed areas have light scratches already. But, it's pretty.

How about the Crumpler (http://www.crumplerbags.com/Cart/index.php?catId=11) Thirsty AL for a P-3000 pouch? It also has a sliplock-like back. And, they come in a wide range of cool colors!

http://www.crumplerbags.com/Cart/Resources/CartResources/226_res/b226_o10603_ai1070.jpg
http://www.crumplerbags.com/Cart/Resources/CartResources/226_res/b226_o10251_ai455.jpg

Not a bad choice either...

When I shoot, I just put it inside my lowepro toploader. Actually, just as long as it works for you, then I guess it's worth it.

I also use the neoprene sleeve that came with the P3000. Who knows better how to protect the Epson P3000 than Epson right? I wished it had a belt attachement though.

I didn't know that the case that comes with the unit was neoprene. I am yet to receive my unit.

The Crumpler Thirsty Al is generally made of neoprene (and it's got a slip velcro lock). It would be a good alternative then?

It is of neoprene material and it has this felt texture on the inside. Although it is not as thick as the common neoprene.

decided to take the plunge..ordered one from villman last wednesday, the unit arrived the next day... absolutely loving my p3000 wooohoooo!:Grin:..still looking for a semi hard case though...:)

congratulations, taks!!!

Remember guys, the Epson units also let you store you MP3 and MP4 movie files on the hard drive! Enjoy.

It can play AVI movies too. :)

Not just Mp3 and Mp4, also, WMV, AAC, h.264, AVI DivX (Xvid) - this are viewable.

But technically, you can stire just about any type of file (be it documents, program files or what have you) in it :D

So, don't forget to always charge your battery... or else, none of those formats may be viewed! Hehehehehhe

Hooray! I just got my P-3000! :Grin:

It's a lot bigger and a lot thicker than I imagined it to be. I was thinking that it would be nearly as big as a medium sized point & shoot. I've gotten so used to my 60GB iPod Video, that this thing kinda feels like a brick... :Shock: But, it's either this, or I bring my MacBook Pro during shoots.

The screen resolution just blows me away! I am quite impressed... It's way better than the Creative Zen Vision W's larger screen.

The supplied pouch isn't really neoprene. It's just foam padding. With a 5.9"x 3.5"x1.3" dimension, even the largest Crumpler Thirsty Al will be too small for the P-3000.

I just noticed that I have a busted pixel on my unit. A single pixel near the top part of the screen is always Red. :(

Hooray! I just got my P-3000! :Grin:

It's a lot bigger and a lot thicker than I imagined it to be. I was thinking that it would be nearly as big as a medium sized point & shoot. I've gotten so used to my 60GB iPod Video, that this thing kinda feels like a brick... But, it's either this, or I bring my MacBook Pro during shoots.

The screen resolution just blows me away! I am quite impressed... It's way better than the Creative Zen Vision W's larger screen.

The supplied pouch isn't really neoprene. It's just foam padding. With a 5.9"x 3.5"x1.3" dimension, even the largest Crumpler Thirsty Al will be too small for the P-3000.

I just noticed that I have a busted pixel on my unit. A single pixel near the top part of the screen is always Red.
congrats vicoy :)...my unit also has a dead pixel...:Thinking:

i can't wait to have mine! 2 days to go!

Got myself a large Crumpler The Bundle to stow my P-3000 in it's sleeve. That should keep it safe. I can even fit some cables along with the unit.

http://www.crumplerbags.com/Cart/Resources/CartResources/233_res/th_b233_o1.jpg http://www.crumplerbags.com/Cart/Resources/CartResources/233_res/b233_o10216_ai1415_thumb.jpg

The Bundle's clip and velcro release flap allows me to use it with the slip-lock slots of my LowePro D200 AW. I don't have to sacrifice space inside the bag. :)

http://www.crumplerbags.com/Cart/Resources/CartResources/233_res/b233_o10216_ai1417_thumb.jpg

congrats to all of you who bought your new P3k toy:)

@vicoy

can you post a photo of your P-3000 inside The Bundle? am looking for a case for mine. TIA!

@dindin

Don't you use a Lowepro belt? I'm looking for a case for mine, too. Para while shooting, you can back-up to the P-3000 real quick.

@dindin

Don't you use a Lowepro belt? I'm looking for a case for mine, too. Para while shooting, you can back-up to the P-3000 real quick.

I do. That's why I need a case that I can just add to my belt system. :Grin:

Not just Mp3 and Mp4, also, WMV, AAC, h.264, AVI DivX (Xvid) - this are viewable.

But technically, you can stire just about any type of file (be it documents, program files or what have you) in it :D

screw ipod. i swear im so gonna get this!

@charles

i still use my ipod when all i want is listen to music. the P-3000 is too heavy to listen to music to. :-)

@Dindin: Here are pics of the P-3000 inside my Crumpler The Bundle. You can see that I've attached it to my D200 AW. I also fit in an AV cable which I use when previewing pics or video through a projector or TV.

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/3589/thebundledp3000cr9.png

I just got mine (P3000) from US at Ritz Camera in LA price is $ 499.00. It's fast man, I uploaded about 2000 pics from the wedding I shoot in Florida. It's really worth it I'm back here now with my new fav gadget......and consider the large screen and oh so nice colors....one thing though many people asked me what camera was it naku hahaha ....oh it's a bit thick not what I also expected it to be but it's better than loggin along a laptop....

@Gil

Congratulations!!! Welcome to the P-3000/5000 family!!!

@vicoy

perfect fit!!! thank you so much!!!

Just like to ask if the P3000 does not overheat when your listening to your mp3s? cause when I had the P2000 and tried listening for 30mins I noticed that the unit heats up even when the LCD was turned off.

I used it a couple of times instead of my 2nd Gen nano, a few officemates asked, what's that? And being obviously too big to be *any* ipod model, i just replied, "walkman... cassettes, hardcore... you know..." :D

Haha...

Oh BTW, a few posts back,

@RANDYK,
Nice to see you around...

@charles
i still use my ipod when all i want is listen to music. the P-3000 is too heavy to listen to music to. :-)

I used it a couple of times instead of my 2nd Gen nano, a few officemates asked, what's that? And being obviously too big to be *any* ipod model, i just replied, "walkman... cassettes, hardcore... you know..." :D


back to casette tayo, old school! haha. :Grin:

I use my P-3000 mainly for photos.

I have a 60GB iPod Video that's loaded with every disc collection I have, with several other albums I've swapped with friends. I've even loaded it with tons of video ripped from my DVDs. And, I still have over 25GB left over.

Had transferring photos to the Video Ipod been as fast as using a P-3000, I would've stuck to my iPod. As it turn's out, the iPod will run out of charge before it can fully transfer a 1GB card via an iPod photo adaptor. So, my iPod is now solely for videos and music.

@dindin: Make sure you bring your LowePro belt along when you get your Crumpler The Bundle, just so you can see if it'll indeed fit your belt. If you get the case at the Crumpler Store in Bonifacio High Street, mention my name (then ilag ka :) ) and try to ask for a 10% cash or 5% card discount.

Thanks, Vic.

I reserved one from Digital Walker. Yep, I have 10% discount, too. Heehee...

I use my P-3000 mainly for photos.

I have a 60GB iPod Video that's loaded with every disc collection I have, with several other albums I've swapped with friends. I've even loaded it with tons of video ripped from my DVDs. And, I still have over 25GB left over.

Had transferring photos to the Video Ipod been as fast as using a P-3000, I would've stuck to my iPod. As it turn's out, the iPod will run out of charge before it can fully transfer a 1GB card via an iPod photo adaptor. So, my iPod is now solely for videos and music.

@dindin: Make sure you bring your LowePro belt along when you get your Crumpler The Bundle, just so you can see if it'll indeed fit your belt. If you get the case at the Crumpler Store in Bonifacio High Street, mention my name (then ilag ka :) ) and try to ask for a 10% cash or 5% card discount.

just got my P3000 last night. I must say, it's much thicker than my previous P2k.

just got my P3000 last night. I must say, it's much thicker than my previous P2k.

i got mine a week ago idol!

wow idol! hehehe... how much did you get it for?

Thanks to Dindin for helping me get my P-5000! This'll come in handy when I'll be travelling soon. I won't be bringing my laptop along.

To all the P-3000 users, I would like to ask if it would be possible to transfer data from your P-3000 to a CF or SD card.

I know that you can download data from memory cards to the device but I have a special need to upload data from the device to a memory card.

Many thanks in advance

I know you can copy data to a USB device (User Manual, p.27). Maybe you can attach a card reader with a CF card inserted. Haven't tried though.

I can copy to and from a memory card on my P4500 so I don't see why you ccan't do the same on the P3000.

@TJ

You're welcome!!!


@Paul

Yes, you can. You can even copy to and from a flashdrive.

@vicoy

i haven't gotten my Bundle... i wish i can find the time to go to the store!!! :-)

1. Insert CF card to the P3000
2. Cancel by pressing Back when it asks if you want to do a backup
3. Go to the Folder where the file you want to copy is located and select (highlight) the file (no need to magnify, the thumbnails view is enough)
4. Press Menu
5. Select Copy/Move > Copy to CF Memory Card (you can also copy to another folder, to an SD card or to a USB Device)
6. Press OK twice (the second press copies) if you move to another image, you will see that the first image has a check mark. That means, you can copy several images at the same time by repeating from step 3 [Pressing Back several times undos the selection/s]

*You can also copy/move a whole folder.

Basically thats the procedure. Try it out.

HTH,
Randy

To all the P-3000 users, I would like to ask if it would be possible to transfer data from your P-3000 to a CF or SD card.

I know that you can download data from memory cards to the device but I have a special need to upload data from the device to a memory card.

Many thanks in advance

Thanks to everyone who answered. I appreciate all the help!

@vicoy

i haven't gotten my Bundle... i wish i can find the time to go to the store!!! :-)

Haha... I believe new stocks are arriving July or August. There might be some interesting colors, if black isn't your thing.

By the way, Digital Walker and the Crumpler Stores in BHS and TriNoMa are owned by the same person, Charlie. :)

Can anyone can help me where can I buy Epson P-3000? Aside from Infomax?

try villman

Got my p3000 at electroworld megamall last monday

Hi All,

Is the Epson P3000 and P5000 much much better than the P2000? How good are they on the field? Does their usefulness/features really warrant its hefty price?

I'm thinking of getting one, and having a hard time decide which model to get.

How's the battery life of the P5000 compared to the P2000? I hear that the P5000 has a shorter battery life compared to the P2000... How true is this?

Thanks all in advance. :)

Hi All,

Is the Epson P3000 and P5000 much much better than the P2000? How good are they on the field? Does their usefulness/features really warrant its hefty price?

I'm thinking of getting one, and having a hard time decide which model to get.

How's the battery life of the P5000 compared to the P2000? I hear that the P5000 has a shorter battery life compared to the P2000... How true is this?

Thanks all in advance. :)

Hi Miggy! i got a P3000, never had a P2000 but according to dindin file transfer and battery life is way much better than the older model (P2000) plus the p3000 has a bigger brighter lcd and can display adobe rgb colorspace.

Usefullness in the field? Very usefull! Instant View of your shots, slip on a card and it will ask you if you want to back up or browse the contents. On a kingston 2gb elite pro 50x cf card i've transferred the full card in about less than 5 mins (mixed jpeg large fine and raws shot with a d200). Its a great photo viewer with very little wait time opening large folders.

With its ability to play music and videos already a plus, its really worth its price.

I was just targetting for a p2000 back then but I cant find any, all the shops which sell the epsons only got the p3000 or p5000. so shelled out another 10k.
No regrets. Very happy with it.

Hi Miggy! i got a P3000, never had a P2000 but according to dindin file transfer and battery life is way much better than the older model (P2000) plus the p3000 has a bigger brighter lcd and can display adobe rgb colorspace.

Usefullness in the field? Very usefull! Instant View of your shots, slip on a card and it will ask you if you want to back up or browse the contents. On a kingston 2gb elite pro 50x cf card i've transferred the full card in about less than 5 mins (mixed jpeg large fine and raws shot with a d200). Its a great photo viewer with very little wait time opening large folders.

With its ability to play music and videos already a plus, its really worth its price.

I was just targetting for a p2000 back then but I cant find any, all the shops which sell the epsons only got the p3000 or p5000. so shelled out another 10k.
No regrets. Very happy with it.

Thanks for the insights Arvin.. :) I heard that alot of P2000 owners hated the 8bit renaming the P2 did with the files.. Has the P3000 addressed this issue?

hmm flasdrive?/ that even makes this more interesting. Does it have a USB port?

Does the P2000 have it?



@TJ

You're welcome!!!


@Paul

Yes, you can. You can even copy to and from a flashdrive.

hmm flasdrive?/ that even makes this more interesting. Does it have a USB port?

Does the P2000 have it?

Yes... not the P2000 though... just the P3000/P5000. :)

I've played with the P5000 and I love it! User interface, screen quality, feature set - it just about has everything I need for photo safaris and showing off my portfolio in a handy package. The only thing that's stopping me from getting one is the price of a brand new Acer laptop with a Celeron processor is about the same. :(

Jerry, get the laptop instead. I have a P-4500 and I am debating whether or not to bring it on my next vacation or my new MacBook Pro and a small card reader. You can do more with a laptop and the screen is larger.

Thanks Rosalie ... :)

Yes... not the P2000 though... just the P3000/P5000. :)

@Arthur

A MBP is far heavier than your P4500 :)

It is, but you can't process photos or surf the internet from the Epson. :D Either way, I may just bring both along on my next vacation.

Jerry, get the laptop instead. I have a P-4500 and I am debating whether or not to bring it on my next vacation or my new MacBook Pro and a small card reader. You can do more with a laptop and the screen is larger.

Is it a P4000 or P4500? I didn't realize there was a P4500 unit..

The P4500 was available in select markets, namely Japan and, I believe, Australia. I bought mine through a reseller on eBay located in Japan. Back then, only the P2000 and P4000 were available and the P4500 was just an improved P4000.

The P4500 was available in select markets, namely Japan and, I believe, Australia. I bought mine through a reseller on eBay located in Japan. Back then, only the P2000 and P4000 were available and the P4500 was just an improved P4000.

Thanks Arthur for the clarification.. I wasn't aware that an enhanced P4000 was released in selected countries, particularly the P4500.

If you don't mind me asking how satisfied are you with your P4500? Could you share with us your personal hands on experience with your unit? :)

@Arthur

A MBP is far heavier than your P4500 :)

I totally agree... Lugging a laptop around especially in remote shoots like the beach, rainforests, mountains, etc. defeats the actual purpose of having an ultra portable device to store and view your images.

Yes, a laptop can definitely do much more than an Epson MMV, no question about that. But there are cases and situations that a laptop especially a 15" or 17" MBP cannot serve as a portable device to which the Epson was primarily created for.

Now as to Jerry's comment I also agree with his argument that with the price of an Epson MMV you are already nearing or if not equaling a price of a bnew laptop.. But, the question is, what if you already have a laptop? It really doesn't make any sense to buy another laptop given that you feel the price of the Epson is similar to a bnew laptop.

I don't think I would want to purchase a PC laptop just to compromise the extra features it can do over an Epson P5000. Especially, if I already own a laptop. Much more if its already a Mac. It doesn't make any sense at all to own 2 laptops.. Well, that's just me..

However, one remote option I would consider is probably getting a second hand 12" Powerbook (mainly because of its size and compatibility with the Mac OS system that I use). Provided too it is within the exact price of a bnew Epson P5000. But one has to also consider the condition of a pre-owned Powerbook, since most of those that are being sold are already out of warranty.

And finally.. 12" vs. a 5" is a big big difference. Given that the main purpose that you are getting a portable backup and viewing device is primarily because of its size and portability and not really on overall functions.

It's OK for the previous generation model, the P3000 and P5000 have slightly larger and a slightly better screen and they also have the USB connector. The P4500 has faster zooming capabilities than the P2000 and P4000. The battery life could be better on the P4500, watching a 2 hour movie sucks up most of the power from a fully charged battery. I am satisfied? I guess so, the main reason why I bought it was because I didn't have enough money to buy a laptop. :D Incidently, new laptops (AMD FX2 64...or whatever AMD calls their dual core processors) can be found for less than $800 CDN (34kPHP), which is about the price of a P5000 over here.

It's OK for the previous generation model, the P3000 and P5000 have slightly larger and a slightly better screen and they also have the USB connector. The P4500 has faster zooming capabilities than the P2000 and P4000. The battery life could be better on the P4500, watching a 2 hour movie sucks up most of the power from a fully charged battery. I am satisfied? I guess so, the main reason why I bought it was because I didn't have enough money to buy a laptop. :D Incidently, new laptops (AMD FX2 64...or whatever AMD calls their dual core processors) can be found for less than $800 CDN (34kPHP), which is about the price of a P5000 over here.

I see.. So let me reverse the situation.. If you already had a laptop.. Would you have still purchased your P4500?

Thanks for the insights Arvin.. :) I heard that alot of P2000 owners hated the 8bit renaming the P2 did with the files.. Has the P3000 addressed this issue?


I dont know about the 8 bit renaming issue in the P2, In the P3 you can rename folders up to 32 characters long including spaces.

I have an intel iMac at home and already have a heavy photo gear adding a mbp would only give me back aches, the P3000 solves my problem plus i dont have to buy a new lowepro backpack, the p3 with its small size fits in with my other gear in my lowepro nova 5aw bag.

For me its better to travel light. Shoot on lacation, store on location and edit at home or the office. That way you wont miss any photo opportunity.

If I already have a laptop, I'd still buy the Epson P5000 just for use in my safaris. :)

I see.. So let me reverse the situation.. If you laready had a laptop.. Would you have still purchased your P4500?

Just to answer...

I have a laptop but still saw the benefit of getting the P3000. Sometimes I bring both sometimes just the P3000

The P3/5000 is quite handy for showing your work around without the hassle of bringing big-sized prints or booting up a laptop (which is quite unwieldy if you think about it).

I used to think that the laptop was enough 'til I got me one of these puppies.

Another plus... if you're bored to death waiting for somebody to arrive for a meeting, you can always whip it out and browse your "work" which also makes for good conversation as well. Think of it as a portable "marketing" tool.

It has a USB in and out port. USB out for conneting your P3000 to a computer and USB in for connecting a powered/low power USB to your P3000.

Think of it this way, you can power up your digicam, connect it to the P3000 and transfer/copy files from the digicam to the P3000. FAT/FAT32 formatted thumb/flash drive need not be powered.

You can also connect a PSP to the P3000 and be able to browse/copy the contents of the PSPs memory stick.

And others. I msure a powered external hard disk can be browsed/copied to or from by the P3000 if so desired.

hmm flasdrive?/ that even makes this more
interesting. Does it have a USB port?

I see.. So let me reverse the situation.. If you already had a laptop.. Would you have still purchased your P4500?

Most likely not. I have a tiny portable, bus-powered hard drive that I would use as my backup drive to store all of my photos in the event that my MBP's hard drive were to crash. I also have two 4GB CF cards so I wouldn't have to worry about running out of memory during a day's shoot, even when shooting in RAW. Another good thing about my MBP is that I can buy the airplane power chord and use it on a long haul flight without having to worry about the battery running out.

If it were just for a day's shoot, I wouldn't bother with a P5000. But I would have use for it on a 5-day safari. I would probably have 15~20Gb worth of flash cards with me so I will have enough for the entire trip. The Epson will serve as my backup device and "light table". I find that idle time after dinner during safaris is the perfect time to rate and classify photos.

Does the epson p5000 support ratings that you could actually transfer the ratings on to lightroom or aperture? So you don't have to rate them over again?


If it were just for a day's shoot, I wouldn't bother with a P5000. But I would have use for it on a 5-day safari. I would probably have 15~20Gb worth of flash cards with me so I will have enough for the entire trip. The Epson will serve as my backup device and "light table". I find that idle time after dinner during safaris is the perfect time to rate and classify photos.

Thanks for the Info. Even if I laready have alaptop, I'd still get oen of this (P3000 maybe) its very useful :)

It has a USB in and out port. USB out for conneting your P3000 to a computer and USB in for connecting a powered/low power USB to your P3000.

Think of it this way, you can power up your digicam, connect it to the P3000 and transfer/copy files from the digicam to the P3000. FAT/FAT32 formatted thumb/flash drive need not be powered.

You can also connect a PSP to the P3000 and be able to browse/copy the contents of the PSPs memory stick.

And others. I msure a powered external hard disk can be browsed/copied to or from by the P3000 if so desired.

The P3/5000 is quite handy for showing your work around without the hassle of bringing big-sized prints or booting up a laptop (which is quite unwieldy if you think about it).

I used to think that the laptop was enough 'til I got me one of these puppies.

Another plus... if you're bored to death waiting for somebody to arrive for a meeting, you can always whip it out and browse your "work" which also makes for good conversation as well. Think of it as a portable "marketing" tool.

Very well said Raul.. I couldn't agree more on how you perceive your Epson to be... Cheers to that! :)

Where can I get a good screen protector for the Epson P5000? :)

i wouldn't get a screen protector... kinda detracts from the viewing pleasure, colors aren't as saturated, imo. i don't think it scratches that easily anyway. at any rate, i don't know where to get a protector ;)

I bought a couple (for my P4500) through eBay. Just like an iPod or your cellphone, the screen will scratch over time.

I haven't removed the original plastic protector. It serves as my P3000's screen protector

Anyone know where to get an Ultra Clear P3000 screen protector locally? Or can bring in one?

Thanks!

There are screen protectors being sold for 150 pesos in CDR King shops. I don't know if the size covers the entire width of the screen. The quality is good btw. Saw one stuck on my brother's iPod Touch :D

I heard of some of these devices dying over the course of time.
Would it be advisable to clone the system contents of the p3000/p5000 before starting to use it?
If so, how did you do it? Would it be possible to do it through the USB port?

New firmware. v1.20

http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/support/supDetail.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&oid=75843&prodoid=63061067&infoType=Downloads&platform=All

You may wanna try this.

http://juliuslagula.blogspot.com/2007/08/upgrading-hard-drive-of-p-3000.html

Report your milage please :D

I sure wanna try it w/ a 160GB HD!!! Whooops, there goes the warranty!

I heard of some of these devices dying over the course of time.
Would it be advisable to clone the system contents of the p3000/p5000 before starting to use it?
If so, how did you do it? Would it be possible to do it through the USB port?