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Princess Jarlyn Young
10-13-2007, 01:26 AM
hey there! :)

it's been while since i have uploaded a thread.. anyways.. thought of doing this thread.. since.. since.. since.. hihihih. no comment.. hahaha. :Grin:

i've asked reputable photogs to lend me their image/s which they didn't hesitate to provide. :) thank you photogs. for this thread, i won't say who did the shot.. but it's up to you to know.. to guess.. and to think with our coconut shell (trans: the muscle above our heads) what lighting technique/ set up they did.. :) so let the games begin.. and of course.. this is not just for fun.. we LEARN from it!!! :)

first up.. :)
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/6522/sabrina014la9.jpg

second.. :)
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/121/wetki3.jpg

third.. :)
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/6730/heavenlybedde1as5.jpg


*more to come.. hopefully.. for now.. let's see if we can learn from these photos.. how you can know how they did the lighting is up to you.. :)

Princess Jarlyn Young
10-13-2007, 01:32 AM
so here's what we do:
1.) LEARN LEARN LEARN.. how? it dpends on you.. you look at the image.. very long.. and think!! :D
2.) you can ask.. but i am not promising that the photogs can ans you..
3.) LEARN! hahahaha :D

michaelsalomon
10-13-2007, 03:18 AM
1) im seeing clamshell here, one light above model then a reflector below for fill.
hmm the colors are JT =)

2) one light blasted from 2 o'clock of cam. then light was reflected by the floor.

3) i think thats sunlight from the window.. giving her the rimlight. a softbox behind cam can be used to fill.
i believe that it is sir nick espino's recent photo=)


sana me sense ako hehe

Princess Jarlyn Young
10-13-2007, 03:40 AM
@ dj mike!! hihih. really?? is that JT?? hhaha. juss..... oppss.. hahah :D

for the 3rd photo.. i guessed it was all naturale.. with the use of a reflector.. hmm..

michaelsalomon
10-13-2007, 03:50 AM
@ dj mike!! hihih. really?? is that JT?? hhaha. juss..... oppss.. hahah :D

for the 3rd photo.. i guessed it was all naturale.. with the use of a reflector.. hmm..

yeah im suspecting the bed reflected the sunlight...

yeah JT photo haha

Princess Jarlyn Young
10-13-2007, 03:53 AM
JT.. care to join us?? hahahha :D

lighting a subject can really be tricky.. whew.. ask jay about it.. hahahah.

Richmon_De_Jesus
10-13-2007, 04:13 AM
1) beauty dish above, reflector below, another fill from camera right near the photographer and subtle kicker at the left behind?

2) strobe above

3) reflector or fill in front of the model camera left

ricky_ladia
10-13-2007, 06:23 AM
Hmmm are those Nick Espino's photos??

Well, DJMyk and Richmon were good on their observation regarding the lights.

But here are my questions on photo #1... are there lights on these areas?...
1. the chin ( notice that itsy-bitsy light on her chin? it may be a spill from the background light )
2. background light
3. overhead light (top light maybe coming from a light hoisted on a boom)

I guess there are about 3-4 lights used here plus a reflector... so it must be JT's work:D

Photo #2 has two light source (i wonder how the photog came-up with the rim light on the background frame just above the model's head and still cast shadow on the background)

Photo #3 Used one light source plus reflector, but knowing Nick E's work, one can never guess, coz he's good at making photos look natural even if he's using strobes.:D

Nice thread Cez!!!:)

Raffy Tesoro
10-14-2007, 03:46 AM
I can't answer this Cez... LOL! Post the others man... mwahahahaha.

reybaptista
10-14-2007, 06:10 AM
hhhmmmmm....... im no expert, but i'll take a stab at it!

1) single overhead light aimed at the model; reflector directly below face. why do i think so? there's only 1 catchlight i see in her eyes. the reflector is also traceable on her eye closest to the camera. it's possible that a second light (for background) might have been used; but it's also likely that it's the same light spilling over in the background.

2) consistent with a single overhead lightsource. the reflected light below her thigh & body seem to be coming from the platform the model is on (don't think that's the floor-her right foot is dangling). i like the shadow castings in the entire image, but im not sure i like the cropping of the limbs (sorry, OT)

3) sun-lit window with horizontal shades OR a softbox with grid then draped with horizontal shade. reflectors may have been used but the light-colored linens might have been enough to reflect most of the ambient lights.


just my 2cents :)

michaelsalomon
10-14-2007, 07:20 AM
I can't answer this Cez... LOL! Post the others man... mwahahahaha.



ay! u want an easy photo? i bet youll figure that one out hahahahaha

Richard Ledesma
10-14-2007, 08:05 AM
My guess

1. 2 strobes (main and background) and a reflector (fill).
2. 1 light source from the top and white platform as a reflector
3. window light with reflector to fill shadow.

Princess Jarlyn Young
10-14-2007, 03:37 PM
@ raffy.. bwahahahah! which picture? hahhaah. still waiting for another photog's picture. probably im gonna ask omar how the lighting was done! paging paging.. omar!! hihih. I can't answer this Cez... LOL! Post the others man... mwahahahaha.

Princess Jarlyn Young
10-14-2007, 03:39 PM
thank you thank you!!! more to come~!
Hmmm are those Nick Espino's photos??

Well, DJMyk and Richmon were good on their observation regarding the lights.

But here are my questions on photo #1... are there lights on these areas?...
1. the chin ( notice that itsy-bitsy light on her chin? it may be a spill from the background light )
2. background light
3. overhead light (top light maybe coming from a light hoisted on a boom)

I guess there are about 3-4 lights used here plus a reflector... so it must be JT's work:D

Photo #2 has two light source (i wonder how the photog came-up with the rim light on the background frame just above the model's head and still cast shadow on the background)

Photo #3 Used one light source plus reflector, but knowing Nick E's work, one can never guess, coz he's good at making photos look natural even if he's using strobes.:D

Nice thread Cez!!!:)

Princess Jarlyn Young
10-14-2007, 03:42 PM
hmm.. i noticed that you only looked at how the model was lit.. how about the background.. especially for the 1st photo.. hhihihihi. or did someone say that already? hmmm.. kayo ah.. (trans: you ah~) :)

more pictures to come guys.. il just keep posting pictures.. and probably ask some pro photogs to teach us some tidbits of lighting.. again guys.. we are here to learn.. not to imitate what they do.. hihihih.

thanks! :)

Princess Jarlyn Young
10-14-2007, 06:18 PM
as promised.. more to come.. :) now.. guess and try to learn from it :)

photographer numero 4
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/4725/arianivf0.jpg

photographer numero 5
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/5516/jpgzh7u4163ry5.jpg

photographer numero 6

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/4194/thiagocq0.jpg


photographer numero 7
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/2791/zh7u0227op9.jpg

Jowel Putian
10-14-2007, 06:20 PM
as promised.. more to come.. :) now.. guess and try to learn from it :)

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/4725/arianivf0.jpg

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/5516/jpgzh7u4163ry5.jpg


http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/4194/thiagocq0.jpg



http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/2791/zh7u0227op9.jpg
simpleng malupetttt cez!

Princess Jarlyn Young
10-14-2007, 06:21 PM
now i am very very curious with the last picture.. hmm.. hmm.. the lighting was very very soft.. and a very good example of different skin tones being lit :) hmm.. hmm.. nice~

Princess Jarlyn Young
10-14-2007, 06:23 PM
wait wait.. remember guys.. these are not my photos.. :) :) :) i have requested pro photogs to provide me their shots.. without me announcing their names.. let's see if you can guess who's shots are those.. and how they did the lighting :)
simpleng malupetttt cez!

Jowel Putian
10-14-2007, 06:27 PM
wait wait.. remember guys.. these are not my photos.. :) :) :) i have requested pro photogs to provide me their shots.. without me announcing their names.. let's see if you can guess who's shots are those.. and how they did the lighting :)

no idea who's the owner of those shots.. but the image with the multiple guys, i think they have the best lighting... :D

Raffy Tesoro
10-15-2007, 01:01 AM
Oooooyyy concept ko yung first pic a! Oops... *zips lips*

Princess Jarlyn Young
10-15-2007, 01:08 AM
@ raffy.. hahaha. as much as i wanna credit you.. we are giving away who's lighting that is.. hhihiihhhi.. probably next time.. we can do a.. "Guess Who's Production Design" hahahah. :D
y Oooooyyy concept ko yung first pic a! Oops... *zips lips*

Raffy Tesoro
10-15-2007, 01:10 AM
Sus... you'll know if its my PD work... usually involves a lot of things torn out of gardens or houses and stuff...

Princess Jarlyn Young
10-15-2007, 01:13 AM
would i dare disappoint you guys :) here's more.. more pressure for you to learn! hahahah :D

photographer numero 8
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/338/gailjacq2tk4.jpg

Princess Jarlyn Young
10-15-2007, 01:15 AM
@ raffy.. you missed something.. and of course.. the tesoro mansion!!!! :D
Sus... you'll know if its my PD work... usually involves a lot of things torn out of gardens or houses and stuff...

Princess Jarlyn Young
10-15-2007, 01:20 AM
actually if you would notice.. head shots are quite tricky as well.. here's more..

photographer numero 9
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/7430/lasallecollege142oz5.jpg

photographer numero 10

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/1752/suzy418hc5.jpg

Princess Jarlyn Young
10-15-2007, 01:22 AM
:Evil::Evil::Evil:
guess: natural or unnatural??

photographer numero 11
http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/1221/maan305gb0.jpg

Al Gonzales
10-15-2007, 01:28 AM
This is a very helpful thread Princess... will definitely be going back to this from time to time for reference...

Princess Jarlyn Young
10-15-2007, 01:53 AM
@ al.. thanks!!! care to guess the guess? :)


This is a very helpful thread Princess... will definitely be going back to this from time to time for reference...

Raffy Tesoro
10-15-2007, 02:06 AM
Fine fine I'm gonna shut up... I'm just sad I can't play this game!!!

wesvillarica
10-15-2007, 02:10 AM
Photo number 11, definitely not natural. i see subtle highlights everywhere!!

Princess Jarlyn Young
10-15-2007, 02:20 AM
next up... :) thank you photog!!! :)

photograph number 12
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/8617/mg1312sue7.jpg
photograph number 13
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/2889/mg1164copygc7.jpg

Princess Jarlyn Young
10-15-2007, 02:22 AM
of course you can play too!! guess who's the photog... hahahah :D :D :D though if it's your set.. it's a goner! hahah :D


Fine fine I'm gonna shut up... I'm just sad I can't play this game!!!

Raffy Tesoro
10-15-2007, 02:23 AM
But I know who owns what... insider trading?!?

Princess Jarlyn Young
10-15-2007, 02:28 AM
@ raffy.. hahahahaa. oh well.. better luck next time for me.. :D
But I know who owns what... insider trading?!?

jeffreyebiteng
10-15-2007, 03:04 AM
hey there! :)

it's been while since i have uploaded a thread.. anyways.. thought of doing this thread.. since.. since.. since.. hihihih. no comment.. hahaha. :Grin:

i've asked reputable photogs to lend me their image/s which they didn't hesitate to provide. :) thank you photogs. for this thread, i won't say who did the shot.. but it's up to you to know.. to guess.. and to think with our coconut shell (trans: the muscle above our heads) what lighting technique/ set up they did.. :) so let the games begin.. and of course.. this is not just for fun.. we LEARN from it!!! :)

first up.. :)
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/6522/sabrina014la9.jpg

second.. :)
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/121/wetki3.jpg

third.. :)
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/6730/heavenlybedde1as5.jpg


*more to come.. hopefully.. for now.. let's see if we can learn from these photos.. how you can know how they did the lighting is up to you.. :)

Its been ages when I did my last studio works. Anyway have you tried using the butterfly lighting effect? its one of the simplest and effective portrait lighting. Cheers CEZ.

Jeffrey

wesvillarica
10-15-2007, 03:10 AM
Its been ages when I did my last studio works. Anyway have you tried using the butterfly lighting effect? its one of the simplest and effective portrait lighting. Cheers CEZ.

Jeffrey

I think we're supposed to guess how the lighting for whichever photo# was done and who shot it :)

jeffreyebiteng
10-15-2007, 03:19 AM
I think we're supposed to guess how the lighting for whichever photo# was done and who shot it :)

Yes I do agree with you, precisely that was CEZ was trying to convey.

But don't you think a pro will be so willing to tell how he/she have done it? Only the basics bro, and its up to us to explore that basic knowledge.

Cheers :)

Jeffrey

Nino Estrada
10-15-2007, 03:19 AM
this is so hard!!! guessing game nga! hehe

the last set, the sepias hmm one light!!! hehe

Princess Jarlyn Young
10-15-2007, 03:29 AM
hold your horses.. hahahah :D

the photographer has the liberty to say or not to say how he lit his work..

now.. it is up to us to guess/ probably do a trial and error on how he lit the "scene" and learn from it..

good luck guys!!!! let the games begin!! :) hihihi.

jeffreyebiteng
10-15-2007, 03:36 AM
The key to every photograph that have been presented is, look for the main light and the rest will follow, another light/s or reflector/s.

Okay.

Cheers

Jeffrey:)

wesvillarica
10-15-2007, 03:44 AM
Yes I do agree with you, precisely that was CEZ was trying to convey.

But don't you think a pro will be so willing to tell how he/she have done it? Only the basics bro, and its up to us to explore that basic knowledge.

Cheers :)

Jeffrey

I'm sure they're looking around to see if anyone can figure out how they light their photos. :) Heck, if someone figures it out how I light, I'd ask them how they found out how i did it so i can train myself not to be so obvious :p Maybe if I figure out how they light they'd take me as an apprentice :)

I'd love to learn from other photogs too tho so keep on posting Cez ;-)

I love this thread!! <3

wesvillarica
10-15-2007, 03:46 AM
Photo 12, low power strobe with a fine honeycomb aimed on her eye. slow shutter speed and maybe an aperture of 8.0?

Nino Estrada
10-15-2007, 03:55 AM
:Evil::Evil::Evil:
guess: natural or unnatural??

photographer numero 11
http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/1221/maan305gb0.jpg

i'll try to guess, that's all i can do coz im sure i won't get it right.

nope not natural, judging by the shadows minimum 3 light sources (guess), shadow from the door knob, shadow of her legs and the frame of the wind shield.

guess lang ha, this is so hard!!!

if this was an exam bagsak me hahaha coz im sure things are not what they seem to be!

Princess Jarlyn Young
10-15-2007, 03:59 AM
hip hip hoorayyy~ hip hip hoorayy~~~ wait.. it's not that i think you are right wes.. i just wanna amuze myself.. hahhaa. again.. LEARN LEARN LEARN is agenda here..

i would have to agree with wes.. i, also, don't wanna give out how i lit my work.. if they knew.. then how the ---- would i be set apart from "other" photographers.. hmmm.. another issue to be tackled.. but for now.. guess the guess!!!! who's who.. is another.. hahaha. keep the GUESSING comin!! ;)

Jason Tablante
10-15-2007, 10:04 AM
The key to every photograph that have been presented is, look for the main light and the rest will follow, another light/s or reflector/s.

Okay.

Cheers

Jeffrey:)

Ahh! Good start, but some shots don't even have a main light. :D

CocoyLopez
10-15-2007, 11:52 AM
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/6730/heavenlybedde1as5.jpg
Cez,

This I can not forget :D! It's Nick E's photo shoot ad.

Lighting? Hmmm... aside from ambient, he used two strobe on a honeycomb grid? :D

Paolo Pineda
10-15-2007, 11:30 PM
Photo 12, low power strobe with a fine honeycomb aimed on her eye. slow shutter speed and maybe an aperture of 8.0?

hey wes,

nice seeing you here in DPP. jay t invited me to check it out....haha!! its pretty hot in here! i remember ph-photo days!

photo 12

what lens? f8? at slow shutter speed?

the DOF of the photo is very shallow. and i "think" this was shot w the sun between 11-1pm. you can see it from the sun thats hiting the arm. now my question is... This photo was shot at biggest aperture maybe f2. but w strobes so the DSLR can only sync at 1/200. Even at ISO 20 you cant get that big opening at 1/200 at 12pm. unless it was shot w an RB or a leaf shutter that can sync upto 1/500 and shot at f3.5-f4 w a 180mm lens....but still not possible.

Damn... its really hard to be technical in photography huh?

i think some photographers will agree w me here. Being a photographer who likes shooting fashion (sorry i dont want to call it fashion photogpraher...haha). To be honest the technical side of photography comes in only at 10% of my workflow. when im done imagining what i want... 90% of being a photographer who shoots fashion is all about directing. I focus more on how to bring out the best in my subject... proper proportion of the body, composition comes in next. but for me its really still capturing that moment even if we create our shots w our direction. If you ask me most of my shoots i cant even remember anymore how i shot it technicaly. i can only read how i did it.

Learning the perfect mix of light by heart....gives you more room on how you will handle your subject better.

i'm excited to learn so much in this forum!!

lets just keep shooting!

Princess Jarlyn Young
10-15-2007, 11:43 PM
wow!! thanks for dropping by paolo pineda :)

Jason Tablante
10-16-2007, 01:48 AM
Welcome to DPP Pao! hahahah... :D

hey wes,

nice seeing you here in DPP. jay t invited me to check it out....haha!! its pretty hot in here! i remember ph-photo days!

photo 12

what lens? f8? at slow shutter speed?

the DOF of the photo is very shallow. and i "think" this was shot w the sun between 11-1pm. you can see it from the sun thats hiting the arm. now my question is... This photo was shot at biggest aperture maybe f2. but w strobes so the DSLR can only sync at 1/200. Even at ISO 20 you cant get that big opening at 1/200 at 12pm. unless it was shot w an RB or a leaf shutter that can sync upto 1/500 and shot at f3.5-f4 w a 180mm lens....but still not possible.

Damn... its really hard to be technical in photography huh?

i think some photographers will agree w me here. Being a photographer who likes shooting fashion (sorry i dont want to call it fashion photogpraher...haha). To be honest the technical side of photography comes in only at 10% of my workflow. when im done imagining what i want... 90% of being a photographer who shoots fashion is all about directing. I focus more on how to bring out the best in my subject... proper proportion of the body, composition comes in next. but for me its really still capturing that moment even if we create our shots w our direction. If you ask me most of my shoots i cant even remember anymore how i shot it technicaly. i can only read how i did it.

Learning the perfect mix of light by heart....gives you more room on how you will handle your subject better.

i'm excited to learn so much in this forum!!

lets just keep shooting!

michaelsalomon
10-16-2007, 01:50 AM
so Joel Torre.
time to lecture us. =)



(why do u have so many codenames?)

Princess Jarlyn Young
10-16-2007, 06:04 PM
the thread is getting hot.. hot hot!!!! :) i told you there's more..
paolo pineda.. welcome to DPP.. :)

here's more..
photograph numero 14
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/7410/mg8219syl2.jpg

photograph numero 15

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/6932/mg1672mm0.jpg

Princess Jarlyn Young
10-16-2007, 06:10 PM
i told you.. there's more!!! :) :) :) wahoooo!! ;) time to look at them. :)

photograph numero 16
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/1009/mg2123snn8.jpg

photograph numero 17

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/5779/mg3929xr1.jpg

michaelsalomon
10-16-2007, 06:32 PM
photo 16

(pressing the buZzer)

hmm 5 lights

1st main light umbrella overhead. maybe a big one =)

then another fill light below.. a reflector or another light ...

then 2 lights cam left and right.. behind the model for hairlight

then another one to light the background =)

ryan_tanganco
10-16-2007, 06:45 PM
photo 16

(pressing the buZzer)

hmm 5 lights

1st main light umbrella overhead. maybe a big one =)

then another fill light below.. a reflector or another light ...

then 2 lights cam left and right.. behind the model for hairlight

then another one to light the background =)

I guessed two lights for background.. :) (hmm are 6 lights overkill? or not yet? :D)

Princess Jarlyn Young
10-16-2007, 06:47 PM
photograph 15..
guessing.. hmm.. hmm.. all natural...



photograph numero 15

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/6932/mg1672mm0.jpg

wesvillarica
10-16-2007, 08:30 PM
hey wes,

nice seeing you here in DPP. jay t invited me to check it out....haha!! its pretty hot in here! i remember ph-photo days!

photo 12

what lens? f8? at slow shutter speed?

the DOF of the photo is very shallow. and i "think" this was shot w the sun between 11-1pm. you can see it from the sun thats hiting the arm. now my question is... This photo was shot at biggest aperture maybe f2. but w strobes so the DSLR can only sync at 1/200. Even at ISO 20 you cant get that big opening at 1/200 at 12pm. unless it was shot w an RB or a leaf shutter that can sync upto 1/500 and shot at f3.5-f4 w a 180mm lens....but still not possible.

Damn... its really hard to be technical in photography huh?

i think some photographers will agree w me here. Being a photographer who likes shooting fashion (sorry i dont want to call it fashion photogpraher...haha). To be honest the technical side of photography comes in only at 10% of my workflow. when im done imagining what i want... 90% of being a photographer who shoots fashion is all about directing. I focus more on how to bring out the best in my subject... proper proportion of the body, composition comes in next. but for me its really still capturing that moment even if we create our shots w our direction. If you ask me most of my shoots i cant even remember anymore how i shot it technicaly. i can only read how i did it.

Learning the perfect mix of light by heart....gives you more room on how you will handle your subject better.

i'm excited to learn so much in this forum!!

lets just keep shooting!

I agree with you on that, most of the time it's really directing for me. The lighting is just there to create the mood and the environment for your subject to play in. When I get asked how I took a particular shot, all I can really say is "I did it by feel". Just have to know your lighting by heart and where to place her to optimize it.

michaelsalomon
10-17-2007, 03:08 AM
I guessed two lights for background.. :) (hmm are 6 lights overkill? or not yet? :D)


as long as u know where to place your lights.. even 8 would do =-)

Richmon_De_Jesus
10-17-2007, 05:41 AM
this is getting real complicated! can we just guess who shot these?? hehe..

ryan_tanganco
10-17-2007, 06:32 AM
Photograph 14

hmm the line where the mirror touches the floor has been cloned :P as for the lighting.. not sure :P

Princess Jarlyn Young
10-18-2007, 12:42 AM
as for my guess here.. it was about 45degrees to her right.. just one light. :) let's see what the pros can say about this.. :) stay tune :)

John Edward Taca
10-18-2007, 01:11 AM
cez thanks for the thread!! i enjoyed and learned reading the posts and looking at the images...

btw, did you mention the name of the photographer?

Princess Jarlyn Young
10-18-2007, 01:47 AM
@ john.. thanks!!! :) nope.. i intensionally didn't mention any photog's name.. unless they claim it.. :)

jeffreyebiteng
10-18-2007, 02:41 AM
Hello again.

Made mentioned about me doing studio portraits ages ago. Anyway got to reeve up those sleeping memories working. My humble opinion on the FIRST PHOTO.

1- Look into her eyes you could see where the lights (or reflector) was in placed (the direction and position).
2- Intrigue by the light touching her right cheek, down her chin to the neck.
3- Reflector was used.
4- Background light was also used.
5- Two to three lights was used.

How about honeycomb grid or conical snoot, its possible he/she have used it. (why used these?, to control lights direction more narrower or spill over)

Important thing to do is to enjoy what you're doing and keep on discovering. There is no limit to lighting placement or positions/directions.

NEXT 2nd photo personal analysis.

Cheers.

Jeffrey

Richmon_De_Jesus
10-18-2007, 03:13 AM
Hello again.

Made mentioned about me doing studio portraits ages ago. Anyway got to reeve up those sleeping memories working. My humble opinion on the FIRST PHOTO.

1- Look into her eyes you could see where the lights (or reflector) was in placed (the direction and position).
2- Intrigue by the light touching her right cheek, down her chin to the neck.
3- Reflector was used.
4- Background light was also used.
5- Two to three lights was used.

How about honeycomb grid or conical snoot, its possible he/she have used it. (why used these?, to control lights direction more narrower or spill over)

Important thing to do is to enjoy what you're doing and keep on discovering. There is no limit to lighting placement or positions/directions.

NEXT 2nd photo personal analysis.

Cheers.

Jeffrey

I am really confused about what your trying to imply, I'm sure that other people also noticed what you have noticed, however, we tend to guess how it was done. can you just do the same? :D

christopher cortez
10-18-2007, 12:40 PM
hip hip hoorayyy~ hip hip hoorayy~~~ wait.. it's not that i think you are right wes.. i just wanna amuze myself.. hahhaa. again.. LEARN LEARN LEARN is agenda here..

i would have to agree with wes.. i, also, don't wanna give out how i lit my work.. if they knew.. then how the ---- would i be set apart from "other" photographers.. hmmm.. another issue to be tackled.. but for now.. guess the guess!!!! who's who.. is another.. hahaha. keep the GUESSING comin!! ;)

im sorry but i disagree wholeheartedly. Why not share what you know? I think the reason you got to where you are is by learning from someone else's charity...so if you learned from someone why not pay it forward by teaching what you know?

for me, the sign that you are becoming an expert in what you do is when you have surpassed that stage where you feel the need to hog information just to get ahead. Like what what paolo pineda said, the technical is but 10% of your picture the other 90% is what defines your style and would become your calling card. Imagine if the only thing that separates you from other photogs is your lighting scheme....what would you do if your model (who lets say is also into photography) goes out and mimics your scheme? or sells the info to others, worse...just shows it all on youtube for free?

i think this whole forum was put up so we can have a place to share what we know so everyone grows. People ask and people give answers and we find ourselves better.

I think if youre here just to show off your work and not entertain questions then you should definitely change the attitude.

thats just me....i know some people wont agree but hey we cant please everybody.

wesvillarica
10-18-2007, 05:09 PM
for me, the sign that you are becoming an expert in what you do is when you have surpassed that stage where you feel the need to hog information just to get ahead. Like what what paolo pineda said, the technical is but 10% of your picture the other 90% is what defines your style and would become your calling card. Imagine if the only thing that separates you from other photogs is your lighting scheme....what would you do if your model (who lets say is also into photography) goes out and mimics your scheme? or sells the info to others, worse...just shows it all on youtube for free?


It really depends on the photographer I think. I know lots of "masters" or "experts" who still don't allow anyone else aside from the creative team and their apprentice to see their lighting setup. Sharing what you know is cool, but it's really the photographer's discretion to whom he shares it to.

I would respect a photographer's decision not to tell just whoever what exactly what his lighting is like and how he did it simply because some photographers learned how to shoot not by asking anyone how to do it but by doing it themselves. Some learned it by paying someone to teach them in a seminar or in school. We can't all just demand for people to tell us their hard-learned and hard-earned techniques and secrets just because they posted their photos in a forum. If you're really serious in learning a certain photographer's technique, then approach him yourself and ask for an apprenticeship. That's how a lot of people do it.

I think that a photographer's style is not limited to just to his light set up but to the way he approaches lighting, subject, and post-processing(even if his post is a no PP approach). It's impossible to share all that on a youtube video, or pictures of the light set-up, or a website forum.

I've heard of models like Helena Christensen who've moved on to a photography career, simply because she likes taking photos and was exposed to the world's best photographers as well.

I also think that anyone who posts in these forums are free to say whatever they want as long as it conforms to the rules of the forum creator. If the photog wants to use it as a way to display his work and it's allowed, then it's cool. If a thread starter wants to post pictures of other photographers (with their permission, of course), and asks people to guess how the photogs lit their photos, it's cool too! It would be even cooler if the photogs went into detail about how they did it, but what are the chances of that?

What's fun about this thread is that it is about theorycraft. It's fun to guess how a photographer did his work. It's up to the photographer who owns the photo to PM u whether u were right or wrong in your analysis of his lighting setup (if he even bothers).

christopher cortez
10-18-2007, 06:06 PM
hi, sir wes...i honestly respect your opinion like i said its just my personal take on the issue. Also the idea that the only thing that separates you from others is the lighting setup i feel is a bit shallow. If thats the only differentiating factor you have then it might be a short lived career.

BTW, when's your seminar? hehehe......

jeffreyebiteng
10-18-2007, 07:13 PM
I am really confused about what your trying to imply, I'm sure that other people also noticed what you have noticed, however, we tend to guess how it was done. can you just do the same? :D

If something was not clearly mentioned please do point out. I am sure I can clear the air for you. One thing the word guess is not appropriate since it connotes mediocre analysis.

What I am doing here is sharing my 18 years experienced as a photographer.

Thank You and Cheers.

Jeffrey:)

Princess Jarlyn Young
10-18-2007, 07:22 PM
the only thing i can say is.. i didn't post any of my work.. so i don't have anything to brag. and my work is not at par with these professional photographers. :) coz i still have lots of things to learn. [quote=christopher cortez;266754]


I think if youre here just to show off your work and not entertain questions then you should definitely change the attitude.


[quote]

wesvillarica
10-18-2007, 07:40 PM
Also the idea that the only thing that separates you from others is the lighting setup i feel is a bit shallow. If thats the only differentiating factor you have then it might be a short lived career.

BTW, when's your seminar? hehehe......

I agree with you! A part of your soul and your vision goes into each photo you take. At least that's what i believe. It's just cool how other photogs execute and show their technical side. Whenever I see an Herb Ritts photo I'm like, "WTF, how'd he do that".

http://www.staleywise.com/collection/ritts/ritts_versace_dress_b.jpg

As for the seminar, I'm doing one with the help of my friends but that's just a basic photography thing in Nov. For the advanced one, still thinking about it. Hehe :D

Cheers!

@pao:

For Photo 12,

still haven't figured it out, counting the factors of noontime sunlight, the very shallow DOF, and since here was a shutter speed limitation, I guess the blur MAY have been photoshopped in haha! :p ARR i dunno, coz thats the way I'd handle the problem of having that lighting peg at noontime outdoors. I'd shoot it with a strobe positioned close to her with a barndoor and 10degree honeycomb at a smaller aperture. Still dunno, the photog who did that had some skillz ;-)

Marton_Benitez
10-18-2007, 08:17 PM
For Photo 12,

still haven't figured it out, counting the factors of noontime sunlight, the very shallow DOF, and since here was a shutter speed limitation, I guess the blur MAY have been photoshopped in haha! :p ARR i dunno, coz thats the way I'd handle the problem of having that lighting peg at noontime outdoors. I'd shoot it with a strobe positioned close to her with a barndoor and 10degree honeycomb at a smaller aperture. Still dunno, the photog who did that had some skillz ;-)

Just wondering, why is it noontime?
And if it was could an ND filter have helped in creating that shallow DOF

Richmon_De_Jesus
10-18-2007, 10:19 PM
What I am doing here is sharing my 18 years experienced as a photographer.

Thank You and Cheers.

Jeffrey:)

well that sounds more like it, nevermind..

christopher cortez
10-18-2007, 10:36 PM
the only thing i can say is.. i didn't post any of my work.. so i don't have anything to brag. and my work is not at par with these professional photographers. :) coz i still have lots of things to learn.


I think if youre here just to show off your work and not entertain questions then you should definitely change the attitude.


so sorry, this isnt aimed at you, its just a general comment...:)

Jason Tablante
10-18-2007, 10:45 PM
Let's get back to the general program of the thread guys. This is a thread where we could hone our light analysis skills here. There's lots to be learned, let's not waste such a good potential of this thread, if we just bicker about snide comments and arguments.

otep_benavides
10-19-2007, 12:32 AM
true true, better focus all your energies on studying instead of bickering :) cheers!

move along now move along now.. :D

Jason Tablante
10-19-2007, 12:49 AM
Just wondering, why is it noontime?
And if it was could an ND filter have helped in creating that shallow DOF

There's a particular challenge in lighting things during noontime, and that's how to over power the sun with lighting. What's great about Shot #12 is the contradiction of concepts about our general notion of lighting vis-a-vis the aperture to be used.

Seems like an ND or several ND filters were used to bring down the intensity of the light to match the desired opening. I give credit to the photog though for keeping good focus on the lens. Most DSLRs screw up their AF when you mount ND filters that cut about 4 or more stops. :D

wesvillarica
10-20-2007, 10:07 PM
more photos cez!!

Princess Jarlyn Young
10-20-2007, 10:20 PM
will ask for more! :) hihihih. stay tune! ;) don't wanna waste this thread :) starting to learn things! :)
wu\

Princess Jarlyn Young
02-07-2008, 02:06 AM
time to revive this thread. :) il upload some more photos. hihih.

Christian Obmerga
02-07-2008, 08:42 AM
we're waiting cez :D

nino_carandang
02-07-2008, 08:59 AM
Below is the unedited image of my Rogue shoot last year. Shot in Bella Luce Studios with two strobes, one with a diffusion panel. the other with a 90x120mm softbox. I also placed the schematics on how the lights were setup. If you need the PSD to make your own schematic, email me. I've asked permission already from the author to use the template schematic for this Forum.

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb296/ncarandang/_IN_1176.jpg

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb296/ncarandang/katalano_setup_final.jpg

nino_carandang
02-07-2008, 09:12 AM
what was used:
1. 600 watt strobe with a 90x120 softbox behind me, as seen on the schematics.
2. 600 watt strobe with bounced on a silver (not white) diffusion panel, approximately 45 degrees to the left of the model. a gobo was used in an attempt no to have the bounced light spill to the background.
3. canon 1D Mark IIN with a 135 f2L and pocketwizards

if you notice, i used the mark II with a 135 lens. the schematic shows that i'm near kat alano. in reality, i probably was farther than what is show in the diagram. i'd say somewhere around 6-7 feet.

jasonmiraples
02-07-2008, 09:59 AM
Nice setup Master Nino! :):):) I hope that we can learn that using our resources in a minimal setup. Thanks for sharing us!

nino_carandang
02-07-2008, 10:04 AM
Nice setup Master Nino! :):):) I hope that we can learn that using our resources in a minimal setup. Thanks for sharing us!

hi jason, i don't deserve to be called master. i'm here to help. besides, i didn't sign up in this forum to be praised or to make this my worship board. :D and if people don't like my photos, it's also alright, i don't make tampo because my balls weren't licked by the critical mass.

jasonmiraples
02-07-2008, 10:13 AM
hi jason, i don't deserve to be called master. i'm here to help. besides, i didn't sign up in this forum to be praised or to make this my worship board. :D

:) Sorry sir... just got carried away. :):):) Thank you for your help and hoping to see more from you...

jake_amora
02-07-2008, 10:44 AM
Thanks for sharing Niņo!
your post was the kind of post that i was waiting for in this thread... very informative! :)

nino_carandang
02-07-2008, 10:46 AM
Thanks for sharing Niņo!
your post was the kind of post that i was waiting for in this thread... very informative! :)

i'm waiting for basil and jason to post their stuff. it doesn't have to be portraits. it can be product.

LeandroLosaria
02-07-2008, 11:37 AM
im waiting for jayson tablante to show his 10-15 strobe setup :D

maxi_sanagustin
02-09-2008, 01:30 AM
just browsed into this thread. previous posts really are a hard guess! my brains are being squeezed out! (or maybe im just too noob too determine the lighting. hehe) anyway, thanks for posting sample layout cez.

johngabriel
05-14-2008, 10:42 PM
nice info sir on the schematics., thanks

very helpful for newbies, like us

andreupardales
05-22-2008, 11:33 PM
awesome! another nugget of wisdom! thanks for sharing! keep it up! :)

Princess Jarlyn Young
05-09-2009, 12:06 AM
after almost 1 year of being dormant.. let me revive this thread. :)

will post some more photos when i get some from pro-photographers. :)

tell me what you want to learn.. and let's see if i can "supply" the information.

Princess Jarlyn Young
05-09-2009, 12:23 AM
A good source of information is the DPP Issue #22 (http://www.digitalphotographer.com.ph/forum/showthread.php?t=17963).

There are a lot of techniques there that you can try. :) But of course, you have to experiment on your own.. explore new ideas. get out of your comfort zone and try something new.

Brian Enriquez
05-23-2009, 06:38 AM
-bump-

hoping this thread can be revived.

Christian Obmerga
07-20-2010, 03:08 PM
Resurrecting ...

David Tong
07-20-2010, 03:23 PM
Good bump Christian.