maryannviray
10-03-2007, 03:55 PM
hi....i want to learn the proper way of making a layout to be printed in tarpaulin ..and share some tips also!
thank you in advance :)
thank you in advance :)
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View Full Version : all about tarpaulin maryannviray 10-03-2007, 03:55 PM hi....i want to learn the proper way of making a layout to be printed in tarpaulin ..and share some tips also! thank you in advance :) maryannviray 10-03-2007, 05:04 PM ??.................. Nick Tuason 10-03-2007, 05:06 PM How large a print? Tarps are usually printed large and the layout is usually done by the printer since special RIPS are needed to run the printer and print your image in panels. maryannviray 10-03-2007, 05:12 PM i mean im planning to make a welcome banner and a back drop made in tarpaulin for my son's christening, i wanted the tarpaulin to be beautiful...(not pixelated) any tips to design a tarpaulin?... thank you ! Rolando Avecilla 10-03-2007, 05:22 PM Mary Ann Viray... hehehe complete name eh? Just make sure that your photos were taken at the highest possible resolution. maryannviray 10-03-2007, 05:27 PM thank you!! Rolando Avecilla..hehehehehe maryannviray 10-03-2007, 05:28 PM i heard a combination of in design and adobe photoshop create a good results?any suggestions? aldrichlim 10-03-2007, 05:34 PM i heard a combination of in design and adobe photoshop create a good results?any suggestions? just make sure that your design was made in high quality not low quality:) Nick Tuason 10-03-2007, 05:37 PM Adobe Illustrator is Vector so that means you can go as large as you want without any pixelation. Photoshop is raster so is resolution dependent. Have the designer combine both, Vector for the text and other designs and insert a good resolution image of your son when needed. Waffy Casem 10-03-2007, 05:38 PM i heard a combination of in design and adobe photoshop create a good results?any suggestions? I suggest using Adobe Illustrator instead of InDesign, and Photoshop ofcourse. That's what I use. :) maryannviray 10-03-2007, 05:43 PM oohh... so you guys mean illustrator and photoshop is a good cambination in making tarpaulin.... meaning......... first i will design in photoshop and write the texts in illustrator?<i feel stupid>hehehe thank u for your patience..... maryannviray 10-03-2007, 05:53 PM 723 this is what im trying to do:D maryannviray 10-03-2007, 05:57 PM 724 another one.... and im planning to make bigger 10x14 ft i think:) Paolo Feliciano 10-03-2007, 06:04 PM actually you can lay it out in either Photoshop or Illustrator. Just make sure that your file is at 25% (of the actual size) at 300dpi. Cheers and good luck! Marlo Moya 10-03-2007, 06:13 PM Hi Mary Ann, got a large format here and here are some tips you can use. Depending on your RIP software, generally, a graphic design (or file) is exported in 100 dpi resolution in CMYK mode - mostly JPEG or EPS, but actual in size. To make the file, do what your fellow DPPers suggest below, always make the file in highest resolution possible and RIP it in the highest possible resolution too. Some RIP servers though may have a long time crunching the data, but detail is important. Software for grpahic design, hands down, are those by the Adobe Company. PS, AI, and ID. The heavier your file, the more detailed it is. (except for vector files that are relatively lightweight). Don't forget to put margins on your files for eyelets or if you plan to print full bleed, mark the locations of your eyelets so it doesn't trespass on your design. Also, just an example of resolution and RIP technology. If you print a 2 feet x 3 feet photo without photoshop iterations, a 300 dpi file and a 100 dpi file will not show any significant difference. They may not be the same, but they will look the same. However, if you blow up the same files to, say 20 feet x 30 feet, the 300 dpi file will look better than its counterpart. That's an exciting (but annoyingly smelly) activity to get into.Enjoy! maryannviray 10-03-2007, 06:16 PM actually you can lay it out in either Photoshop or Illustrator. Just make sure that your file is at 25% (of the actual size) at 300dpi. Cheers and good luck! ahhh..ok to make it clear, i can make my layout in its exact size with 300 dpi or i can make it smaller for atleast 25% of its original size?..... haaaah i feel very stupid.....:Oops: maryannviray 10-03-2007, 06:23 PM Hi Mary Ann, got a large format here and here are some tips you can use. Depending on your RIP software, generally, a graphic design (or file) is exported in 100 dpi resolution in CMYK mode - mostly JPEG or EPS, but actual in size. To make the file, do what your fellow DPPers suggest below, always make the file in highest resolution possible and RIP it in the highest possible resolution too. Some RIP servers though may have a long time crunching the data, but detail is important. Software for grpahic design, hands down, are those by the Adobe Company. PS, AI, and ID. The heavier your file, the more detailed it is. (except for vector files that are relatively lightweight). Don't forget to put margins on your files for eyelets or if you plan to print full bleed, mark the locations of your eyelets so it doesn't trespass on your design. Also, just an example of resolution and RIP technology. If you print a 2 feet x 3 feet photo without photoshop iterations, a 300 dpi file and a 100 dpi file will not show any significant difference. They may not be the same, but they will look the same. However, if you blow up the same files to, say 20 feet x 30 feet, the 300 dpi file will look better than its counterpart. That's an exciting (but annoyingly smelly) activity to get into.Enjoy! ohh thanks a lot......little by little i get it......but still there are some points where i cant understand.......how can i put margin in ps?haha i dont understand bleed,RIP......:( yes tarpaulins smells bad ahahaha..... im glad there are people sharing and teaching people like me ........ more power to you all! maryannviray 10-03-2007, 06:25 PM and what would be the difference between cmyk and rgb? can i submit the file in tiff ?jpg?or what?......haaaah need your patience... Marlo Moya 10-03-2007, 06:31 PM @Mary Ann on margins and Bleed and RIP. I suggest you get a basic photoshop seminar at PCCI, they would work you up. and they have other classes you will need too. follow the link www.pcci.com.ph So you get a continuous flow of information. They have workbooks and handouts. maryannviray 10-03-2007, 06:40 PM @Mary Ann on margins and Bleed and RIP. I suggest you get a basic photoshop seminar at PCCI, they would work you up. and they have other classes you will need too. follow the link www.pcci.com.ph (http://www.pcci.com.ph) So you get a continuous flow of information. They have workbooks and handouts. thanks for the info...but sad i can't afford to go study......i have a son and marami gastos... i guess i need it but not now... maybe some trial and error may help me nalang....:( Marlo Moya 10-03-2007, 07:37 PM thanks for the info...but sad i can't afford to go study......i have a son and marami gastos... i guess i need it but not now... maybe some trial and error may help me nalang....:( Oh dear you break my heart. let me invite you to my studio. Bring the family and let me know if you want to stay overnight so I can arrange for your hotel. PM me your mobile number so I can give you directions. I will give you hands-on exposure, from file to printing. I am in Subic so you might want to consider the overnight offer, kids will love it here. maryannviray 10-03-2007, 08:23 PM i want to say thank you for your invitation....you make me cry....cant believe you even want to teach me seriously....i dont know what to say!...... Marlo Moya 10-03-2007, 08:31 PM Aaargh... mamaya ako na din sige ka... Its nothing. If you have a car, its just 2 hours away. If you will commute, its just 3 hours away. What I teach you, you can use right away. But promise to share it too. dave_trinidad 10-03-2007, 08:34 PM hi Mary Ann, i'm not an expert but hope my simple way would help: 1. I pp the photos i'm going to use first. 2. In CS2 I prepare my blank canvass. 72 dpi resolution in my experience is enough. 3. I set the size. Like a backdrop of 3 by 6 feet for example, i convert to inches 36x72 inches. 4. I import the photos using "Place" command. 5. Lay-out texts as i wish. 6. Save to JPEg highest resolution. 7. Bring to Recto (hehe) for printing. 1 Hr later, i have my freshly printed ink smelling tarpaulin. God bless. maryannviray 10-03-2007, 08:38 PM hi Mary Ann, i'm not an expert but hope my simple way would help: 1. I pp the photos i'm going to use first. 2. In CS2 I prepare my blank canvass. 72 dpi resolution in my experience is enough. 3. I set the size. Like a backdrop of 3 by 6 feet for example, i convert to inches 36x72 inches. 4. I import the photos using "Place" command. 5. Lay-out texts as i wish. 6. Save to JPEg highest resolution. 7. Bring to Recto (hehe) for printing. 1 Hr later, i have my freshly printed ink smelling tarpaulin. God bless. Got it! thanks hah.........bait nyo:) maryannviray 10-03-2007, 08:41 PM Aaargh... mamaya ako na din sige ka... Its nothing. If you have a car, its just 2 hours away. If you will commute, its just 3 hours away. What I teach you, you can use right away. But promise to share it too. ...grabe na toh.......ang bait mo naman sooobra.....:) maryannviray 10-03-2007, 08:44 PM Oh dear you break my heart. let me invite you to my studio. Bring the family and let me know if you want to stay overnight so I can arrange for your hotel. PM me your mobile number so I can give you directions. I will give you hands-on exposure, from file to printing. I am in Subic so you might want to consider the overnight offer, kids will love it here. heaven sent thats how i can describe you ...... kahit sa salita lang ramdam ko sincerity mo.....at kahit wala pa man.... talagang nag papasalamat ako...alam ko pag tinanggap ko ang invitation mo malaking tulong sa buhay ko dahil madadagdagan ang kaalaman ko, salamat talaga ..but i think it will be impossible for me to go on your studio and bring my 6 month old baby with me...he is still young and this is my first child hindi pa talaga ako sanay mag alaga....and "nakakahiya " talaga.... but still im thankful....and i really appreciate your kindness more power is what i can say.... God bless you Jared Gomez 10-03-2007, 09:22 PM what i usually do is create a 1:1 file, 300 dpi, cmyk. you better make sure and use cmyk because rgb poses a different color gamut. this would result in inaccurate color reproduction. furthermore, i suggest you flatten the image before saving-as to jpeg.. layer styles tend to appear differently when flattened. for graphics, if you can't get em high-res i suggest rendering them in a vector editing program first. probably the last thing i could suggest is go to a good print shop. don't go to those who skimp on the ink they use.. hehe imho Ronnel Cuison 10-04-2007, 12:04 AM I do design for tarpaulin all the time. I do the layout in photoshop in actual size at 72 dpi. Don't worry about the resolution it will be printed just fine coz it's actual size. Doing it in photoshop alone saves time. And you can add better shadows and textures and glows to your text. Remember to do it in actual size at 72 dpi. :) jozepcoloma 10-04-2007, 01:22 AM hi Mary Ann, i'm not an expert but hope my simple way would help: 1. I pp the photos i'm going to use first. 2. In CS2 I prepare my blank canvass. 72 dpi resolution in my experience is enough. 3. I set the size. Like a backdrop of 3 by 6 feet for example, i convert to inches 36x72 inches. 4. I import the photos using "Place" command. 5. Lay-out texts as i wish. 6. Save to JPEg highest resolution. 7. Bring to Recto (hehe) for printing. 1 Hr later, i have my freshly printed ink smelling tarpaulin. God bless. I'm also in the process of making my son's tarpaulin for his Baptism. The steps you suggested were also the steps I did and incidentally the sample size you gave was the also the exact size I am making. The only difference is that I used 300dpi instead of 72dpi, and when I import photos, I first open the photo then drag that layer to the layout I am making. Will there be a big difference if I use the "Place" command??? Thank you guys for sharing. Jared Gomez 10-04-2007, 02:28 AM unless you are not printing billboard sized tarps i dont think there will be much noticeable change.. though i use the place command most often.. hehe:) I'm also in the process of making my son's tarpaulin for his Baptism. The steps you suggested were also the steps I did and incidentally the sample size you gave was the also the exact size I am making. The only difference is that I used 300dpi instead of 72dpi, and when I import photos, I first open the photo then drag that layer to the layout I am making. Will there be a big difference if I use the "Place" command??? Thank you guys for sharing. maryannviray 10-04-2007, 05:41 AM so grateful to everyone....little by little i learn from your tips and suggestions... maryannviray 10-04-2007, 06:16 AM I do design for tarpaulin all the time. I do the layout in photoshop in actual size at 72 dpi. Don't worry about the resolution it will be printed just fine coz it's actual size. Doing it in photoshop alone saves time. And you can add better shadows and textures and glows to your text. Remember to do it in actual size at 72 dpi. :) ohh i see...thank you!:) Vin DelaPena 10-04-2007, 07:27 AM can anyone give an idea how much tarp printing is? i inquired in one printing shop, P400 for a 2ftx5ft, is this price ok? thanks po! maryannviray 10-04-2007, 09:41 AM can anyone give an idea how much tarp printing is? i inquired in one printing shop, P400 for a 2ftx5ft, is this price ok? thanks po! hello....i saw a shop that print tarpaulin for 35 per sq ft...but others say that a lot of other printing shop offers their tarp for as low as 17 pesos per sq ft...im not tryin to find other with cheaper price pa naman right now, kaya papa print parin ako dun sa 35 per sq ft....:)hehe jozepcoloma 10-04-2007, 11:31 AM arkigrafix beside kenny rogers along quezon ave. prints tarpaulin at P25/sq. ft. though I haven't tried their tarp. services yet. Marlo Moya 10-04-2007, 12:00 PM Let me give you a heads up on rates. Tarpauline (or PVC) printing rates vary a lot. The generally accepted pricing range however are somewhere between P20 to P50. The high volume rates range ranges from P12 to P18. Now, the rates change for these reasons. 1. Type of tarpauline used (measured by weight or thickness) 2. Type of inks used. ( Solvent, mild solvent, eco-solvent, etc.) 3. Type of large format printer used. (Solvent ink-based, UV-ink based, etc). 4. Printing resolution. 5. Print Size. 6. Seaming. No such thing as cheap or expensive. But there is such a thing as rip off. The thinner the media - the cheaper it becomes. The more you print - the more the printer is inclined to give volume discount. By default, Fora brand large format prints i think at 230dpi (not sure), Roland brand printers print at 720dpi. Colorspan brand printers also at 720. Mutoh brand printers around 320 dpi. The higher the print quality the more ink it uses, the more cost incurred therefore the end price becomes slightly differentiated. UV-based inks are the most expensive but the best in all aspects of print. I suggest you specify. Specify media weight : 13oz. which you get around (P25-P35) Block out media - for billboard sized projects are about the same as above - but take note, billboard sizes are BIG. 30 feet x 40 feet generally. Also, if you're the designer. Better if you specify, or study the factors affecting the output, this way, you TELL the printer what you want, which teaches them what kind of cusomer you are. Always demand the best possible result, other printers JUST PRINT your file without regard for anything else. This may not be good to your end clients - the idea is to MAKE THEM come back to you. MAKE YOU their FIRST CHOICE subliminally - so ALWAYS signature your work with HIGH QUALITY workmanship. To Mary Ann. This journey you're taking is exponentially rewarding, especially in terms of income and profits. Learning is easy if you want to really learn. The invitation holds. Find time. 5 hours max COULD be enough to last for years. maryannviray 10-04-2007, 12:44 PM wow thanks for the info..dami pla dapat i consider when it comes to tarpaulins.... jozepcoloma 10-07-2007, 09:22 PM thanks sir marlo for your explanations. At least we already have an idea what to consider in choosing where to print. Jeruel B. Ibaņez 10-07-2007, 09:54 PM @Marlo, Bro, thanks a lot for the professional inputs about the subject on hand. I want to see and visit you when I get a chance to go home. I'm also into designing, including tarpaulin. Your knowledge-shared here is very helpful. maryannviray 10-09-2007, 06:57 PM I do design for tarpaulin all the time. I do the layout in photoshop in actual size at 72 dpi. Don't worry about the resolution it will be printed just fine coz it's actual size. Doing it in photoshop alone saves time. And you can add better shadows and textures and glows to your text. Remember to do it in actual size at 72 dpi. :) thank you!:) enjoy_gaw 11-08-2007, 04:17 PM Tarpaulins are normally printed in Draft mode. Lowest possible resolutions to maximize print speeds. And even for billboards, draft mode is good enough since you won't be looking at it closely. If you want to have a much nicer print, request the printer to print it at a higher resolution. The prints come out much better and almost eliminates the banding is which very common on draft prints. Marlo Moya 11-08-2007, 08:37 PM @ Maryann Your exposure trip still holds. Will wait for you for. just PM a sched. @Jozep You're welcome. There's actually more info, don't worry its not very hard to understand. @Jeruel Hey man, my doors are always open. Will wait for you too, maybe give you the same tips for Mary Ann here. And you need to show me some macro shots of your new gear, I was told you got a D3. Wow! jonkung 11-09-2007, 08:20 AM Print quality depends mainly on the type of printer heads used, the precision of the printer mechanical components and its halftone and ink technologies such as six colors and variable drop sizes. If the printing head designed specs is 360 dpi -- determined by the density of the nozzles and the size of the ink droplets -- it will only print at 360 dpi at best. Upping the print passes or resolution in the software won't do much to improve the quality as if its a true 720 dpi printer. For color quality, sadly we have only so few printers here who are able to standardized their colors output or no single printer can match the colors to other printers or to your calibrated monitor. Many of our graphic artists or print operators still rely with trial by error output to get their proof approve by client and never able to maximize the printer to its 100% color quality potential. karlo_domingo 11-09-2007, 01:00 PM hi try clicking : Image, then image size. then play around with the number. or increase the resolution. That usually takes out the pixalated image when zooming in. hope this helps Immanuel Lingat 11-09-2007, 03:38 PM @marlo you're from V8 design studio right? Rodel Ramos 11-10-2007, 06:34 PM 724 another one.... and im planning to make bigger 10x14 ft i think:) 11 by 14 feet for a christening welcome banner. Thats huge. Pwede ng pang billboard sa EDSA (he-he-he). Photoshop (I think) is enough for the job. Some printers prefer CMYK and to some, okay na ang RGB. For small sizes, printers recommend actual size but the resolution is 300 dpi. For bigger sizes (like the 11 by 14ft) you can use the 300 dpi but you have to lower your image size in terms of length and with but still in proportion. If you want to retain the dimension, lower the resolution, dpi. Thats the tip tarp printers told me and the the results of my work is still ok (not pixelated). You can check your work in actual size. Form there, you can view if your work is okay or not. Hope it helps.:) Marlo Moya 11-10-2007, 11:24 PM @Immanuel Lingat Yup. I sure hope I can remember you if we've been acquainted before. Sheesh, coffee 5 times a day has fried my brain memory cells. What's up dude? Daniel Amular 11-22-2007, 03:06 AM @maryann Tarpauline printers always use CMYK, because that's how the printing machines are built. Conversion from CMYK to RGB isnot always perfect. So if you want your work done the professional way, work on CMYK from the start of your project in photoshop. And it's also a good practice to render images in tiff from the start to prevent image compression. It won't be a problem if you are working on a 300 dpi project, just have a proportionate size as per your actual output. If it's an 11x14 ft project, work on a 22x28 or 11 x 14inches canvass at 300dpi (tranny size). Don't make an 11 ft x 14 ft project at 300 dpi - this is impossible in photoshop, it cannot handle that size and resolution, nor will your 2 Gig RAM dual core processor. I've done 60x40 and 50 x 80ft bboards using this method. (Cross platform your workflow to Macromedia Freehand if you'll do vectors. Freehand is a more powerful publishing tool). Tarp printers will just convert your tranny size to actual sized TIFF at 100 dpi for final output. Let them do that, that's part of their service. But if you're anal about it, you can always do it yourself :) If you print tarps regularly, get a reputable large format printer supplier and calibrate your monitor to their machines so you don't get any color loss. jonkung 11-22-2007, 09:12 AM If you print tarps regularly, get a reputable large format printer supplier and calibrate your monitor to their machines so you don't get any color loss. Hi Daniel, why not the other way around? Thousands of our monitors here do look more color similar to each other than their printers and also do we have to edit the thousands of images we acquire from our scanners and digital cameras individually just only to match their color printing pecularity? Daniel Amular 11-22-2007, 02:31 PM @jonkung If this is possible, why not! :-) I really wish they will be the ones to calibrate their printers against our monitors, but sadly, every printer has their own calibration which is why one has to carefully choose his suppliers. If your large format supplier is a reputable one, most probably his configuration will match your properly calibrated monitor. Clients (photographers and graphic artists, ad agencies) always adjust their monitors based on the standard settings of printing presses, large format suppliers and photo labs. or maybe unless one is a valued client who sends in thousands of prints a day, then probably they will be the one who will adjust. Remember, the monitors we buy, even our laptops and flatscreens are all factory calibrated for general purpose use, and not specifically for photography or graphic design, which is why every photoshop book will always start their chapters with " How to Properly Calibrate Your Monitor". regards jonkung 11-22-2007, 11:42 PM Thats very true :-) Though printers invested millions in these machines and software only a few knows how to calibrate them to a standard that anybody can communicate color exactly as wanted such as Pantone and clients always have to accept these limitations though much better results are still possible. Our monitors do display color much closer to each other even uncalibrated as long as we set the brightness correctly and not way to high that even the shadows look wash-out which I also find typical in many print service bureaus. Monitors by design nearly match the sRGB standard and with gamma calibration it further corrects the brightness scale, gray balance and white point especially most noticeable in shadows and highlights and hardware calibration do these job much better. Colors are measurable just like metric units. A reputable service bureau for me should able to send you their printings specs and ICC profiles and also must guarantee to you that their output accuracies are gong to conform to within these tolerances! :D @jonkung If this is possible, why not! :-) I really wish they will be the ones to calibrate their printers against our monitors, but sadly, every printer has their own calibration which is why one has to carefully choose his suppliers. If your large format supplier is a reputable one, most probably his configuration will match your properly calibrated monitor. Clients (photographers and graphic artists, ad agencies) always adjust their monitors based on the standard settings of printing presses, large format suppliers and photo labs. or maybe unless one is a valued client who sends in thousands of prints a day, then probably they will be the one who will adjust. Remember, the monitors we buy, even our laptops and flatscreens are all factory calibrated for general purpose use, and not specifically for photography or graphic design, which is why every photoshop book will always start their chapters with " How to Properly Calibrate Your Monitor". regards maryannviray 11-26-2007, 04:04 PM wow thanks....you guys help me a lot.....yah 11x14 feet is huge haha....hmmn God bless us all.. thank you! @ marlo...thank you very much talaga ... Bryan Cristobal 05-28-2008, 02:58 PM guys, im planning to make a 140 inches by 36 inches tarpau. nakagawa na ako ng 36x24 @ 300dpi dati. ang problem ko lang ngayon, ang laki nung file size nung 140x36 ko. any advice? Jared Gomez 05-28-2008, 03:03 PM i don't think we could give any advice regarding the file size. if it's that big then it's that big. hehe:D i always work at 300dpi but since ronnel posted earlier that 72dpi is just fine then maybe you should try that:) guys, im planning to make a 140 inches by 36 inches tarpau. nakagawa na ako ng 36x24 @ 300dpi dati. ang problem ko lang ngayon, ang laki nung file size nung 140x36 ko. any advice? jasonmiraples 05-28-2008, 03:32 PM This is very interesting... Well, most of them said it already just to give them emphasize. The bigger the size of your media/tarpaulin must be lower in resolution (72dpi the ideal). If you can do it in much more higher than 72dpi then much better but if you don't have enough memory then useless... you end up restarting your computer... :Grin: Photoshop is enough for the project, but of course it will depend into your projects and GA know what is best for such projects. For the COLORS, I never use CMYK for the tarps. RGB is nice when doing layout when photos is concern. CMYK is good for the offset printing and that's what they need. If the printer really needs the color profile for the Tarps I just give them the Pantone color. Most of the Publication Printer/Printing Press have their own Pantone Charts while the Photo Lab has their own ICC Profiles. My two cents... :Grin::Grin::Grin: Marlo Moya 05-28-2008, 03:33 PM guys, im planning to make a 140 inches by 36 inches tarpau. nakagawa na ako ng 36x24 @ 300dpi dati. ang problem ko lang ngayon, ang laki nung file size nung 140x36 ko. any advice? 140 x 36 inches x 300 dpi will give you a file size greater than 2GB, which photoshop will no longer save as jpeg, tiff, or psd. Here's the tip, most large format printers interpolate resolution. Although it can print images sent to it with 300 dpi resolution. The same image sent to it in 150 dpi and 100 dpi and 72dpi will look "almost " the same. Image degradation would likely be negligible. However, there are printers, like imagesetters, that do not interpolate resolution, hence, what you feed it, will be what will be printed. Large formats are really meant to be viewed from afar and resolution-wise, they would all look the same. Save it at 100 dpi actual size. PS : not all large formats have the same printing resolutions, or dot sizes for that matter. Usually, the cheaper costs per square foot, the lower the output resolution, hence lower image quality. ANGELO SANTOS 05-28-2008, 06:25 PM 72ppi would be perfectly fine. if you still want to be in the safe side, then 100ppi is it (useful for 'fit to media' setting). as for file sizes, it can be expressed this way: 12" x 24" @ 300ppi = 24" x 48" @ 150ppi = 48" x 96" @ 75ppi any which file size you start w/ the above will yield you 99MB. as always w/ Photoshop, you need more RAM (at least 2GB especially when working w/ huge files). oh, btw, i own a digital printing business. :Grin: Bryan Cristobal 05-29-2008, 09:45 AM 140 x 36 inches x 300 dpi will give you a file size greater than 2GB, which photoshop will no longer save as jpeg, tiff, or psd. Here's the tip, most large format printers interpolate resolution. Although it can print images sent to it with 300 dpi resolution. The same image sent to it in 150 dpi and 100 dpi and 72dpi will look "almost " the same. Image degradation would likely be negligible. However, there are printers, like imagesetters, that do not interpolate resolution, hence, what you feed it, will be what will be printed. Large formats are really meant to be viewed from afar and resolution-wise, they would all look the same. Save it at 100 dpi actual size. PS : not all large formats have the same printing resolutions, or dot sizes for that matter. Usually, the cheaper costs per square foot, the lower the output resolution, hence lower image quality. ok sir. ill just make it at 100ppi. ill update you sir as i go on with the process. thank you Mr. Moya. erwin montilla 07-15-2008, 08:32 AM salamat sa tips and advice mula sa aing mga guru..:D nagpaplano din akong gumawa ng tarpaulin para sa binyag ng baby ko.. dami kong natutunan dito..gnun pla..ung mismong size ng tarp ko ang gagawin kong layout sa CS2..un eh kung naka 72 or 100 dpi ako dba? thanks mga idol..:D Anwar_Ratag 07-21-2008, 11:26 PM Because of my 8 yrs experience on indoor and outdoor printing :)... I would suggest on making your design a 150 dpi, 300dpi is better but only if you have a fast computer. 72dpi will look pixelized on some prints, so use 150 just to be sure. Hope this helps :) jmbartolini 11-25-2008, 10:57 AM help...I'm going to design a concert poster, i don't know what size I'm going to work on photoshop and what resolution will best do on a 9x15 ft tarpaulin. it is my first time to do this thing... thanks in advance... georgearquitola 11-25-2008, 08:32 PM help...I'm going to design a concert poster, i don't know what size I'm going to work on photoshop and what resolution will best do on a 9x15 ft tarpaulin. it is my first time to do this thing... thanks in advance... This is tough man! Well, for the project you are about to begin - I suggest you better work with CorelDraw! it renders faster than Photoshop. Not only faster than Photoshop, it also has a shaper look with regards to fonts in print. But if you would like to work with photoshop - open a working area (convert your feet to inches) make the image size actual size and set the DPI to 25 because in the tarp printing shop they will convert your file to 25DPI and set your working color space to CMYK. In doing the actual size - Photoshop works faster in lower resolution even it is in very large image size. ricorojas 12-06-2008, 05:12 AM I've layout some large prints before...Just to simplify things for you create a composition in photoshop (the size you want) then layout to your heart desires. :D text? I dont think text from photoshop will have a problem, for this purpose I dont think you need to do it in illustrator. for the baby photo... shoot in raw post process it and then put it in the layout... save to tiff then send it to the printing station. :) Im sure the images will come out good. Tarps are low resolution print unlike photos. Just take note that some Tarp printing tends to darken the image. Tarps are supposed to be looked at from a distance. HTH janferrera 05-12-2009, 04:32 PM hi! please help.. I need to design a 13'x7' or a 156" x 84" tarpaulin for stage backdraft. What canvas size dapat gamitin ko sa photoshop? I'll be using the same design I made for an 8.5"x11" souvenir program. I ask din po sa isang printing shop dito sa amin and they told me na I can save may layout on a 13" x 7" with highest resolution daw and it will not pixelate if enlarge, is this true? Please enlighten me.. Thank you so much..:( this is my first post po...and a newbie here..:) Marc Andres 05-12-2009, 04:40 PM yes that is true always start your designs at 300-400 dpi/ppi in CMYK color space @ 1” = 1’ ( e.g. 14‘x48’ billboard would be designed 14”x48” 300dpi). This will ensure that your end result is a perfectly crisp output with no artifacts or blurring. (Note: DO NOT design in low resolution and increase the resolution in Photoshop before final output) color mode it depends on the large media printer. usually they are using CYMK and others are RGB just ask where you will print your tarpaulin what color mode you will be using in your layout hi! please help.. I need to design a 13'x7' or a 156" x 84" tarpaulin for stage backdraft. What canvas size dapat gamitin ko sa photoshop? I'll be using the same design I made for an 8.5"x11" souvenir program. I ask din po sa isang printing shop dito sa amin and they told me na I can save may layout on a 13" x 7" with highest resolution daw and it will not pixelate if enlarge, is this true? Please enlighten me.. Thank you so much..:( this is my first post po...and a newbie here..:) janferrera 05-12-2009, 05:28 PM @ marc andres Thank you so much. Now I can start working.:) I'm beginning to love this site! way to go! :Grin: ninosimbulan 05-12-2009, 05:45 PM galing! thanks to all of u. dami ko natutunan about doing large format printing. now i know the techniques.... hehehe! mypzikeane 02-18-2010, 02:12 PM Thanks for all the info! I just finished one tarp for a school project :D melaniebasaysay 04-29-2010, 09:46 PM thanks for sharing all your ideas here regarding tarpaulin. i'm in the process of making a 2x3 ft tarp for my mother's 60th birthday. just want to ask how will it cost for the printing? thanks in advance! bernardayson 05-06-2010, 07:09 PM They usually charge 20-35 pesos per square foot. That would be 120-210pesos for a 2x3 tarp. Felix Matusinio 06-02-2010, 05:07 PM not only in photoshop... if you are more comfortable doing the layout in photoscape, why not. but most of DPP member will suggest you to do it in photoshop and you'll find it more easy. Reu Dawner Flores 08-31-2010, 12:20 PM I'm working as a graphic artist of a print production company and i use to design tarpaulins everyday. For me, the best resolution is 100px. 72 px is too low and 300px is too high. Photoshop and Illustrator are the best software combination in making tarpaulins. Actually, I use RGB mode instead of CMYK. I think that's fine ^_^. If you're planning to add some graphics and pictures to your tarpaulin, don't just download and download what you see that looks good. Be aware of the size also. You can also download vectors. If you're done, click View>Actual Pixels or just simply press Ctrl + Alt + 0. That's how you can see the outcome print of your tarpaulin. I hope that helps. Godspeed! :D Albert Pedrosa 09-12-2010, 11:07 PM you can start by downloading some free templates and work it out in photoshop. Albert ACE socorrobautista 09-18-2010, 02:21 AM I'm working as a graphic artist of a print production company and i use to design tarpaulins everyday. For me, the best resolution is 100px. 72 px is too low and 300px is too high. Photoshop and Illustrator are the best software combination in making tarpaulins. Actually, I use RGB mode instead of CMYK. I think that's fine ^_^. If you're planning to add some graphics and pictures to your tarpaulin, don't just download and download what you see that looks good. Be aware of the size also. You can also download vectors. If you're done, click View>Actual Pixels or just simply press Ctrl + Alt + 0. That's how you can see the outcome print of your tarpaulin. I hope that helps. Godspeed! :D thanks for the share! this one helps.. Russel Ranald Hernandez 07-15-2011, 10:45 PM Hi Friends. I was hoping that you guys can help me. I'm about to make a tarpaulin which is supposed to be 4x8 ft. I already have the design and I need to know if I can use adobe photoshop cs3 to make the tarp. I have basic knowledge in using cs3 so I want to know if it is possible to use it for my 4x8 ft. tarp. Please guide or help me with this. Any tips? =( Russel Ranald Hernandez 07-15-2011, 11:10 PM This is the initial design that i would like to make. Please feel free to post suggestions or tips in using or making tarpaulins in adobe photoshop. file:///E:/DOCUME%7E1/RUHERN%7E1/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot.pngfile:///E:/DOCUME%7E1/RUHERN%7E1/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot-1.png6527 6528 |