Dear Windows Users,

For your convenience in case you dont have any ADOBE Gamma (only available if you installed Adobe Photoshop, correct me if i wrong) You can download WINCOLORSETUP from the following Link. http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/digitalphotography/default.mspx

Hope this helps.

P.S. There are lots of stuff about photography with windows.

Regards,

Kenneth
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kennsei/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kennsei/)

Dear Windows Users,

For your convenience in case you dont have any ADOBE Gamma (only available if you installed Adobe Photoshop, correct me if i wrong) You can download WINCOLORSETUP from the following Link. http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/digitalphotography/default.mspx

Hope this helps.

P.S. There are lots of stuff about photography with windows.

Regards,

Kenneth
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kennsei/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kennsei/)

Hi Kenneth. You mean the Microsoft Color Control Applet for Windows XP.


Overview

The Microsoft Color Control Panel Applet adds a new 'Color' item to the Windows control panel, providing a single place to view and edit color management settings in Windows XP. Using it, you can install and uninstall color profiles, change color profile associations for displays, printers and scanners, view detailed properties for color profiles (including a 3D rendering of the color space gamut), and rename color profiles, keeping the filenames and "internal" names consistent.

This tool also enables Windows to automatically adjust the gamut curve of the display when a color profile containing gamut table information is set as the default profile for the display. Typically, such profiles are created by custom monitor calibration tools, such as those available from ColorVision, GretagMacbeth, and X-Rite. If a color profile has this information, it is shown with an asterisk (*) in the user interface.

Using the Microsoft Color Control Panel Applet, you can:

Install and uninstall ICC color profiles
Inspect, rename, and compare two different color profiles
View a 3D graphics plot of color profile color gamuts
Associate color profiles with devices such as printers, monitors, and scanners
Apply custom color gamut adjustments to one or more displays “on the fly”
Set up display calibration reminders at intervals you specify
A direct download link can be found here (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=1E33DCA0-7721-43CA-9174-7F8D429FBB9E&displaylang=en). :) Validation of Windows Authenticity is a requirement.

is this an acceptable alternative in calibrating your monitor for people that have no access or resources for calibration equipment?

Sir Earl-Yes i mean the windows color applet for winxp.

Sir Francis-Yes i think this is the basic applet to color match your printer output with the monitor. But, if can afford color vision spyder 2. Also, if you already have photoshop in your computer you can use the adobe gamma calibration system.

One more advise base on experience, try to check your printers website for color matching with your monitor. I'm using Epson printer and they have this section for matching prints with the one you see on your monitor (step by step process).

Hope that helps.

is this an acceptable alternative in calibrating your monitor for people that have no access or resources for calibration equipment?

The main purpose of this software is to manage your colour profiles/monitor and display settings... But it's not an accurate alternative in calibrating one's monitor. :)

Okay. I stand corrected.=)

Okay. I stand corrected.=)

:) There is no problem Kenneth. You were trying to help... Which is a very noble thing to do. You made people aware of the existence of this application.

Good Morning,

I came across this thread looking for a solution on "incompatibility" between what i see in my laptop and what i get as a final print. Usually (well, always), fujifilm shows/prints a "darker" version of what i edited in my laptop. the guy at the lab tells me that he is calibrated using gamma (?). digiprint, on the other hand, makes prints that are more "yellow" or warmer.

I am installing the windows applet discussed here. will this help?

would appreciate any info on how i can fix this.

Thanks,

Ian

Thanks for sharing, this is cool : )

No. This is actually a bit similar to the Mac Colorsync Utility. You just use it to manage your color profiles. Nothing else.

Getting a good match between your screen and the print is entirely something else. You will need to purchase a device like a Spyder and learn a bit about basic color management.

I don't know what the lab guy is talking about. But I think I know why Digiprint's output looks yellow compared to what you see on your display.

Uncalibrated and unprofiled displays tend to be bluish. Nothing is probably wrong with Digiprint's output. It's the display that is inaccurate :D

Cheers!

Jo Avila

Good Morning,

I came across this thread looking for a solution on "incompatibility" between what i see in my laptop and what i get as a final print. Usually (well, always), fujifilm shows/prints a "darker" version of what i edited in my laptop. the guy at the lab tells me that he is calibrated using gamma (?). digiprint, on the other hand, makes prints that are more "yellow" or warmer.

I am installing the windows applet discussed here. will this help?

would appreciate any info on how i can fix this.

Thanks,

Ian

Hi,

What would be the correct setting or what would I use (1) Brightness (2) Contrast (3) Backlight in calibrating and profiling an iMac. Jo Avila once told me that if an LCD use Backlight. It's working on my MBPro and Dell LCD but I'm getting a sensor error message on my iMac using Spyder Suite 2. Please help. TIA.

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k61/darvin2138/Picture1-1.png

:Oops:oopss sorry, I posted it in a wrong topic...

@ Dan

It's still backlight on the iMac. That's what I use on my iMac. What specifically does the error message say?

BTW, Did you remove the filter baffle from your Spyder2 prior to using it on your iMac?

(Sorry for asking. But I'm just making sure I know all the facts :D).

Cheers!

Jo Avila

@ Jo

Oooops.. Do I need to remove it? :Grin: Thanks.. I'll just try it tomorrow and let you know... I'm away right now with my iMac...:)

@ Jo

Oooops.. Do I need to remove it? :Grin: Thanks.. I'll just try it tomorrow and let you know... I'm away right now with my iMac...:)

No. You don't need to remove it. That was my point :D

I'm just trying to isolate what went wrong. Let me know.

Cheers!

Jo Avila

No. You don't need to remove it. That was my point :D

I'm just trying to isolate what went wrong. Let me know.

Cheers!

Jo Avila

You got me there Jo :D:D:D

Anyway, I dont know what happened last night why I'm getting an error message using that set up. I tried again this morning and it's working fine. I thought my hardware is defective already. ....Thanks a lot Jo!!! :)

You got me there Jo :D:D:D

Anyway, I dont know what happened last night why I'm getting an error message using that set up. I tried again this morning and it's working fine. I thought my hardware is defective already. ....Thanks a lot Jo!!! :)


No problem. Always a pleasure to be of service :D

Cheers!

Jo Avila

hi,

my apologies if im hijacking this thread. i didn't want to creat a new one. my question is:

after the calibration process using the spyder, is it recommended to use the SPYDER color profile in lieu of sRGB when doing PP in photoshop? or does it even matter? ....i mean given that the monitor's already been calibrated?????

this part is a little sketchy for me. your expert advise on the matter is highly appreciated. thanks !!!

~rey

hi,

my apologies if im hijacking this thread. i didn't want to creat a new one. my question is:

after the calibration process using the spyder, is it recommended to use the SPYDER color profile in lieu of sRGB when doing PP in photoshop? or does it even matter? ....i mean given that the monitor's already been calibrated?????

this part is a little sketchy for me. your expert advise on the matter is highly appreciated. thanks !!!

~rey

The color profile created by the Spyder describes the color behavior of your display. This should neither be used as your color workspace nor used as the color profile for your digital image.

The calibration and profiling done with the Spyder merely makes your display more accurate.

The color workspace is supposed to be a stable environment to be used for image editing purposes. Using the display profile as your color workspace makes it unstable.

The color profile of the digital image is what gives scale/proportion/dimension to the RGB color values of your digital image. That's actually the difference between assigning and converting a color profile. Assigning a color profile does not change the RGB values although you might see a shift in color. Converting the color profile causes both the numbers and the color profile to change.

Cheers!

Jo Avila

Sir Earl-Yes i mean the windows color applet for winxp.

Sir Francis-Yes i think this is the basic applet to color match your printer output with the monitor. But, if can afford color vision spyder 2. Also, if you already have photoshop in your computer you can use the adobe gamma calibration system.

One more advise base on experience, try to check your printers website for color matching with your monitor. I'm using Epson printer and they have this section for matching prints with the one you see on your monitor (step by step process).

Hope that helps.

I have Adobe Photoshop in my computer but I don't know how to calibrate my PC using the adobe gamma calibration system.....can you help me how to use it? Thanks:)

I have Adobe Photoshop in my computer but I don't know how to calibrate my PC using the adobe gamma calibration system.....can you help me how to use it? Thanks:)

The Adobe Gamma calibration is a lousy way for you to calibrate your monitor. I suggest that you don't even touch it.

I have Adobe Photoshop in my computer but I don't know how to calibrate my PC using the adobe gamma calibration system.....can you help me how to use it? Thanks:)

Nino is right. I used to attempt 'calibrating' my display using Adobe Gamma. I used to think that I was getting good results (Ignorace can sometimes be bliss).

But, in hindsight, it never gave me results that were as accurate as using a Spyder and implementing a color managed workflow.

Cheers!

Jo Avila

No. This is actually a bit similar to the Mac Colorsync Utility. You just use it to manage your color profiles. Nothing else.

Getting a good match between your screen and the print is entirely something else. You will need to purchase a device like a Spyder and learn a bit about basic color management.

I don't know what the lab guy is talking about. But I think I know why Digiprint's output looks yellow compared to what you see on your display.

Uncalibrated and unprofiled displays tend to be bluish. Nothing is probably wrong with Digiprint's output. It's the display that is inaccurate :D

Cheers!

Jo Avila

Just a follow-up question.. Pardon my innocence. Here are my dilema..

(1) I got myself Spyder2 Express and just like any calibrator, I believe that it will go create a particular color profile for my display, i.e. laptop. For post-processing using photoshop, with the objective of getting a near color reproduction of what I see on my display, do I also need to change the color profile used by photoshop to that of the profile created for my display? Or I should keep the color profile of Photoshop to Adobe RGB?

(2) I made a little experiment: my display is using the profile created for it by Spyder2 Express and I post-processed some images in Photoshop using the Adobe RGB color profile. For discussion purposes, let's say that the color richness of the photo I processed in photoshop is at 100%. I exported and saved my image as JPG (at 100% quality). When I tried opening the exported JPG in photoshop again, the image's color richness is still at 100% but when I try to view the same JPG in Windows Picture and Fax Viewer, the color richness seems to be a little subdued, let's say down to around 80-85%. Now my question is, does mean that my calibration is wrong? Or it is expected since my display is using a different profile than that of photoshop & the exported image?

:( :( :(

It sounds like everything is working right :D

1) The Spyder software will guide you on how to calibrate your display. The software will flash different patches of color that the hardware reads. A color profile or a description of your display's color behavior is then created.

Once again, you neither have to set your color workspace or the color profile of your digital image to be the same as the display profile created by the Spyder. I am assuming that you are referring to color workspace when you state that you will keep the color profile of Photoshop in Adobe RGB?

The display profile, the color workspace and the color profile of your digital image do not have to match each other. They all just have to be accurate.

BTW (this has often been mentioned but I will still say it anyway), calibrating and profiling your display is just a good first step to achieve a color managed workflow. You still have a long way to go. But at least you've taken the first step.

A properly calibrated and profiled display will not necessarily give you a good match between the display and the print when editing in Photoshop. You have to use Photoshop's softproofring feature to achieve that (use the Search function of the forum for more info). :D

2) Programs or applications like Windows Picture and Fax Viewer are not color-savvy (they don't recognize color profiles). Non color-savvy programs assume that the images you are viewing have a color profile of sRGB :D

The fault does not lie in the accuracy of your display but the program that you are using to view the images. Always make sure that the images you view in Microsoft Picture and Fax Viewer are in sRGB or have been converted to sRGB.

There's a long thread here in the forum that touches upon your concerns :D

Cheers!

Jo Avila

Just a follow-up question.. Pardon my innocence. Here are my dilema..

(1) I got myself Spyder2 Express and just like any calibrator, I believe that it will go create a particular color profile for my display, i.e. laptop. For post-processing using photoshop, with the objective of getting a near color reproduction of what I see on my display, do I also need to change the color profile used by photoshop to that of the profile created for my display? Or I should keep the color profile of Photoshop to Adobe RGB?

(2) I made a little experiment: my display is using the profile created for it by Spyder2 Express and I post-processed some images in Photoshop using the Adobe RGB color profile. For discussion purposes, let's say that the color richness of the photo I processed in photoshop is at 100%. I exported and saved my image as JPG (at 100% quality). When I tried opening the exported JPG in photoshop again, the image's color richness is still at 100% but when I try to view the same JPG in Windows Picture and Fax Viewer, the color richness seems to be a little subdued, let's say down to around 80-85%. Now my question is, does mean that my calibration is wrong? Or it is expected since my display is using a different profile than that of photoshop & the exported image?

:( :( :(

Just a follow-up question..

Try these links:

http://www.digitalphotographer.com.ph/forum/showthread.php?t=10782

http://www.digitalphotographer.com.ph/forum/showthread.php?t=7743

http://www.digitalphotographer.com.ph/forum/showthread.php?t=10398

http://www.digitalphotographer.com.ph/forum/showthread.php?t=6878

http://www.digitalphotographer.com.ph/forum/showthread.php?t=5077

http://www.digitalphotographer.com.ph/forum/showthread.php?t=5117

http://www.digitalphotographer.com.ph/forum/showthread.php?t=1826

Cheers!

Jo Avila

Nino is right. I used to attempt 'calibrating' my display using Adobe Gamma. I used to think that I was getting good results (Ignorace can sometimes be bliss).

But, in hindsight, it never gave me results that were as accurate as using a Spyder and implementing a color managed workflow.

Cheers!

Jo Avila

I've downloaded Spyder 2.0 PRO and I don't have any idea with it, I just installed the software and I found out that it should come with this SPYDER gadget that you put in front of your LCD Screen. It's quite expensive and I don't have a budget for that. Is there any other way for me to Calibrate my PC LCD Monitor?

I am really having problem specially last night, because I had an urgent request from the client to edit one photo of their staff that I took on my last Corporate Shoot with them. Whenever I preview it in Windows Picture Viewer it's becoming reddish, but when I open it in Adobe Photoshop it's becoming less red. This just happened after I installed the SPYDER software (not knowing there is a gadget for it). I already uninstall it , but nothing happened. I felt so depressed last night, so I brought with me the image and I tried to view it here in my PC at the office. Luckily I've edited the image properly and the image is not reddish, WHEW.....

Please help me guys, I need to calibrate my PC at home without using a spyder...
Any other Way? I don't have the knowledge in calibrating a PC.
:(

It sounds like everything is working right :D ...


Thank you a lot! I'd go read through the links you've given.. Thanks!! :)

I've downloaded Spyder 2.0 PRO and I don't have any idea with it, I just installed the software and I found out that it should come with this SPYDER gadget that you put in front of your LCD Screen. It's quite expensive and I don't have a budget for that. Is there any other way for me to Calibrate my PC LCD Monitor?

I am really having problem specially last night, because I had an urgent request from the client to edit one photo of their staff that I took on my last Corporate Shoot with them. Whenever I preview it in Windows Picture Viewer it's becoming reddish, but when I open it in Adobe Photoshop it's becoming less red. This just happened after I installed the SPYDER software (not knowing there is a gadget for it). I already uninstall it , but nothing happened. I felt so depressed last night, so I brought with me the image and I tried to view it here in my PC at the office. Luckily I've edited the image properly and the image is not reddish, WHEW.....

Please help me guys, I need to calibrate my PC at home without using a spyder...
Any other Way? I don't have the knowledge in calibrating a PC.
:(

My suggestion is that you still purchase a Spyder but don't get the Spyder2 Pro or the Spyder3 Elite.

Purchase the Spyder2 Express instead. It's an entry level hardware AND software combo for calibrating and profiling your display. It's budget friendly enough for most people.

Cheers!

Jo Avila

@ Lex

http://misterkodaker.multiply.com/journal/item/8/Query_1

Cheers!

Jo Avila

My suggestion is that you still purchase a Spyder but don't get the Spyder2 Pro or the Spyder3 Elite.

Purchase the Spyder2 Express instead. It's an entry level hardware AND software combo for calibrating and profiling your display. It's budget friendly enough for most people.

Cheers!

Jo Avila

Thanks Po....consider ko po iyang suggestion ninyo.....:)