Just wanted to get some opinions from DPP Members regarding a potential DPP Photo Stock site. Lately I've been receiving queries from publishing firms asking if it would be possible to tap into the DPP talent pool.

For instance, a book publisher just contacted me asking for around 40-50 pictures of Philippine destinations such as Mayon, Cagayan Valley, Boracay, etc. The fee they were willing to pay is P2,000 for a large file and P1,000 for a small file. Not too bad if you already have an image just stored in your computer.

If we set it up, we would have to take a commission from any sale. Could be a good idea for aspiring photographers or for people who would like to supplement their photography hobby.

Your comments would be appreciated.

Hi Sir Nick,
This is a good idea. Mutual benefit as they say.

Two questions in mind(for now):
1. Should there be a separate gallery for this for those whose willing to sell or they can just browse the entire database?
2. Is this open for memebers out of the country?

Thanks!!!

We'd have to set up a separate area for this. We'd also have to look into each photo to analyze for printable quality.

Open for all DPP Members no matter where you live.

....I think this is a good Idea, this will push hobbyist or amateurs to strive more in this field then at the same time they get exposure plus DPP benifits from this. Most of us have thousands of pictures just lying in our HD's - it's about time they get exposed :)

There should also be screening of pics submitted or just randomly upload pics???

We would have to screen them. Possibly expand the Photo Gallery site and then Approve photos that are "stock worthy". If a client likes a photo then we contact the photographer to view a hi-res file.

I think DPP would also need to consider if DPP itself would have a cut for that rate, other members might focus on the "1000-2000 per pic" statement and not read the whole guideline...

this is a good idea, i guess this is a way of eliminating photos being hijacked from other sites :)

I think an aspiring contributors work (probably 2-3) should be screened first before he/she can contribute to the stock site. The images submitted will be scrutinized professionally and feedback will be provided for images that didn't pass the quality test. Once they pass they can now submit photos. Future submitted photos should be screened as well to maintain the quality of photos and the name of DPP as well:)

will the photographers be recognized? probably not?

Just wanted to get some opinions from DPP Members regarding a potential DPP Photo Stock site. Lately I've been receiving queries from publishing firms asking if it would be possible to tap into the DPP talent pool.

For instance, a book publisher just contacted me asking for around 40-50 pictures of Philippine destinations such as Mayon, Cagayan Valley, Boracay, etc. The fee they were willing to pay is P2,000 for a large file and P1,000 for a small file. Not too bad if you already have an image just stored in your computer.

If we set it up, we would have to take a commission from any sale. Could be a good idea for aspiring photographers or for people who would like to supplement their photography hobby.

Your comments would be appreciated.

This is a GOOD idea. We have many DPP members who are located al over the provinces of the Phil and some are located internationally too. We can all contribute...its time to be PRODUCTIVE:)

I think this is a great idea. I'm not into photography for the money but in all honesty, it would be thrilling to know that you earn something from what you love to do.

Willy is right when he said...

....I think this is a good Idea, this will push hobbyist or amateurs to strive more in this field then at the same time they get exposure plus DPP benifits from this. Most of us have thousands of pictures just lying in our HD's - it's about time they get exposed :)

It would be nice if they give credit to the one who took the photo but that's close to a dream yata since they paid for it na so that means they can do whatever they want with the photo unless there are terms to follow like the photos shouldn't be used for pornography etc, etc, etc.

Or would it be possible to give the buyer an option to be charged a little less than the regular fee but they HAVE to give credit to the photographer whenever they use the photo ?

I have no experience whatsoever with selling my pictures kasi I just allow people to use them just as long as they agree to my terms .... just sharing my thoughts :Grin:

This is a great idea. I do suggest that the stock photo gallery be separate.

I wonder what's the Pro Photogs side on this :Scared:

I wonder what's the Pro Photogs side on this :Scared:

I dont see why it will affect the pros. It will cater to a different market with different needs. We feel there are a lot of talented photographers here in DPP who can put their talent to good use..(especially those who have NO intentions of turning pro) not just storing their files in their hard drives....also the extra cash you can make will be perfect for those who want to buy more gear:Grin:..wont be to hard to convince your other half of the spending spree.

the 2k and 1k rate is a much better price as compared to the international stock sites who are offering a dollar a pic. This is a better alternative for those who are into or plannig to go to stock photography. I say that you go ahead on this plan of yours and finalize the commission scheme of DPP.

I dont see why it will affect the pros. It will cater to a different market with different needs. We feel there are a lot of talented photographers here in DPP who can put their talent to good use..(especially those who have NO intentions of turning pro) not just storing their files in their hard drives....also the extra cash you can make will be perfect for those who want to buy more gear:Grin:

hear, hear..!:)

..wont be to hard to convince your other half of the spending spree.

hell, yeeaahh!!!:D

I dont see why it will affect the pros. It will cater to a different market with different needs. We feel there are a lot of talented photographers here in DPP who can put their talent to good use..(especially those who have NO intentions of turning pro) not just storing their files in their hard drives....also the extra cash you can make will be perfect for those who want to buy more gear:Grin:..wont be to hard to convince your other half of the spending spree.

yes, a DPP stock site- that was the first thing that came to my mind when i first perused the gallery. so many hidden talents and their amazing photography untapped and wasting in the deep recesses of the hard drive. i think it's an idea whose time has come!

i agree to this!:)

y not? ok yan... :Grin:

COOL!! :) Go for it Nick! :)

MISMO!.....thats great news...instead of only in my HD...pagkakakitaan pa!....Go!Hindi lang pang Hard disk...pang DPP Stock pa!

I think this would be great.. not just a compilation of good photographs.. but a compilation of Filipino photographers.. :)

this is a great idea... go for it!

I think this would be great.. not just a compilation of good photographs.. but a compilation of Filipino photographers.. :)

I totally agree with Ces...

@Nick...

will you pattern it after ISTOCK photo? :)

As for me, I support this project 101%. I can't wait to see this in progress! :D Go for it!

This would be great! Hope it'll push through! :)

the 2k and 1k rate is a much better price as compared to the international stock sites who are offering a dollar a pic. This is a better alternative for those who are into or plannig to go to stock photography. I say that you go ahead on this plan of yours and finalize the commission scheme of DPP.

Clarification needs to be made. We did receive that offer from a book publisher so naturally its higher than a regular stock site. We will need though to eventually firm up a price list.

Clarification needs to be made. We did receive that offer from a book publisher so naturally its higher than a regular stock site. We will need though to eventually firm up a price list.

Yup I agree with you. I guess whatever the rates are this seems to be a great idea. Its an opportunity to be able to create a way of generating passive income from those worthy pics hidden in our HD's.

I think an aspiring contributors work (probably 2-3) should be screened first before he/she can contribute to the stock site. The images submitted will be scrutinized professionally and feedback will be provided for images that didn't pass the quality test. Once they pass they can now submit photos. Future submitted photos should be screened as well to maintain the quality of photos and the name of DPP as well:)

I totally agree on this... :)

will the photographers be recognized? probably not?

They should recognize [still] and credit the photographer. Just an opinion.

i definitely agree on this one.

question though, the photos submitted will be royalty-free or rights managed?

Clarification needs to be made. We did receive that offer from a book publisher so naturally its higher than a regular stock site. We will need though to eventually firm up a price list.

Sir Nick,
will there be by any chance, an opportunity for photographers to set their price prior or after the approval for the stock gallery? for ex. there's a very nice photo that may cost more than 2K...

i'm glad to hear this dpp stock photo site. all we need is a huge database bank for the images upload and a good merchant account for the billing. since there are members outside the philippines, the site must cater online payment or something. just a suggestion...but i'm 100% agree on this!:Grin:

@ Nick as I said earlier...I completely agree with this....but would this prevent " photo-hijacking " ( as discuss in the other thread re: "somebody publish my picture with out my permissiom") by unscrupulous third party? Or in the event they did hijack the photos from the DPP stock photo site, will DPP and the member DPP photog willing to pursue the third party involve?:(

i definitely agree on this one.

question though, the photos submitted will be royalty-free or rights managed?

yeah, this is something important to note. i submit to international stock sites, and their rates for downloads vary on what your photo is gonna be used for.

the 2k and 1k rate is a much better price as compared to the international stock sites who are offering a dollar a pic. This is a better alternative for those who are into or plannig to go to stock photography. I say that you go ahead on this plan of yours and finalize the commission scheme of DPP.

actually some stock sites pay out higher dividends, depending on what the user plans to do with your photo (for print, for web, for exclusive use, etc. it's usually found in the rights management are). i've had a few $20 downloads, but it's normally the 25-50 cents range. :)

@ Nick as I said earlier...I completely agree with this....but would this prevent " photo-hijacking " ( as discuss in the other thread re: "somebody publish my picture with out my permissiom") by unscrupulous third party? Or in the event they did hijack the photos from the DPP stock photo site, will DPP and the member DPP photog willing to pursue the third party involve?:(

We are still looking at all the angles. We want this to be a win-win situation both for DPP and the photographers. Once we get to iron out all the details, we will definitely keep you all posted.

actually some stock sites pay out higher dividends, depending on what the user plans to do with your photo (for print, for web, for exclusive use, etc. it's usually found in the rights management are). i've had a few $20 downloads, but it's normally the 25-50 cents range. :)


The rates will depend on usage of material...definitely.

We are still looking at all the angles. We want this to be a win-win situation both for DPP and the photographers. Once we get to iron out all the details, we will definitely keep you all posted.

Now this is a WINNER !!!:Grin: I say its about time that we have an association ( DPP ) that will curtail photo-hijacking. Its about time that we join hands together and make this possible:)

If a photo is uploaded/filed in the DPP stock site, will the owner/photographer still be able to upload the same photo in other stock sites or sell the photo to other publications outside the DPP stock site circulation?

good idea nick! :)

I think this is a good idea.

My suggestion is you take a percentage for website maintenance. This forum breaks down already at least once a day, you might want to invest in more bandwidth before loading up on the pictures.

Try to keep the hi-res files on your server already with the smaller ones as thumbnails. I'd rather have a send then forget service and just get paid. I wouldn't want to search through all my files for a picture I took awhile back (but thats cause I take a lot of pics).

I am with this... go go go :D

Sir Nick and Ma'm Pilar... anything for the promotion of Philippine photography and the unique and excellent talents of Filipino photographers, I am totally supportive. Some clarifications though...

1. Who gets the copyright on the images selected to be included in the stockphoto collection? DPP or the individual photographer? I would presume that once an image becomes part of the stockphoto collection, DPP assumes ownership and copyright of said photo.

2. Or will DPP act as a bridge (sourcing pool) between the photographer and the possible clientele (whoever orders for a particular photo)?

3. Will a particular photo be available one time only, or can other clients still order/use a photo that has been published by a previous client?

DPP is definitely growing... in skills/talents, resources, business opportunities... Kayang-kaya basta't sama-sama!

I like this Idea, Nick!:)

will definitely check the thread again for updates. Hope this pushes through.

wow, this is a very nice idea and opportunity for us.

wow! sounds cool! a DPP United Stock Photo Exchange! hahahaha

im up for this one!

go go dpp!

Though I'm all for it, my legal counsel suggests that we all read and agree upon the Terms and Conditions of this activity. Nick, can you kindly come up with this so that the forum members will be aware of their rights to their intellectual property. Just a little caveat.

Yes, I would agree with Aly. While it sounds like a good idea, the terms and conditions will have to be spelled so we can give more appropriate comments.

I agree to everthing that's been posted. :)

As long as Nick can protect the interest and right of the original photo owners, this is a good plan.

I've only spoken with nick for a little time, I have heard his plans and visions for us, the photographers, specially those who are not pro but delivers good and printable photos. I beleive we are in good hands.

Nick, you are not that drunk that night, are you? :D :D :D

Yes, no doubt.

woohoo!! so wait, the stock photo site will be separate from this site right?

i definitely agree on this one.

question though, the photos submitted will be royalty-free or rights managed?

I'm OK with the stock site idea, as long as credit is given the photographer. And Jeff raises a VERY VALID question.

Just wanted to get some opinions from DPP Members regarding a potential DPP Photo Stock site. Lately I've been receiving queries from publishing firms asking if it would be possible to tap into the DPP talent pool.

For instance, a book publisher just contacted me asking for around 40-50 pictures of Philippine destinations such as Mayon, Cagayan Valley, Boracay, etc. The fee they were willing to pay is P2,000 for a large file and P1,000 for a small file. Not too bad if you already have an image just stored in your computer.

If we set it up, we would have to take a commission from any sale. Could be a good idea for aspiring photographers or for people who would like to supplement their photography hobby.

Your comments would be appreciated.

Oh, and one more thing, the international stock sites usually take some time to approve uploaded pics. Are u ready to hire more people to do the quality control thing once there is a deluge of pics already coming in, to shorten the wait time?:)

As long as Nick can protect the interest and right of the original photo owners, this is a good plan.

I've only spoken with nick for a little time, I have heard his plans and visions for us, the photographers, specially those who are not pro but delivers good and printable photos. I beleive we are in good hands.

Nick, you are not that drunk that night, are you? :D :D :D

I remember the conversation. Tipsy but not loaded. :)

We would like to hear all comments and once I have enough data I'll come up with something and post it here for further comments. I don't see why having a DPP stock site won't work. It may not start out very strong in the beginning but I think we can gain some momentum down the road, and before you know it......

the stock site idea is comendable. it will go a long way in helping us non-pros get the chance to somehow earn a little (perchance to invest in more gear :Grin:)

imho, we just have to manage expectations at the same time, e.g. being given credit. i've had images published a few times and while got renumerated, it really depends upon the policy of the publication whether your name will come out either alongside the image or as part of the staff box as contributing photographer.

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http://www.lagalog.multiply.com

This is a great idea... Instead of just having your photos sit around inside your HD, might as well earn a few bucks with it. I'm a go on this. :)

Oh, and one more thing, the international stock sites usually take some time to approve uploaded pics. Are u ready to hire more people to do the quality control thing once there is a deluge of pics already coming in, to shorten the wait time?:)

yeah this is a good point. i sometimes wait for more than a week to have my photos approved / rejected.

I support this project, this is a good opportunity for the hobbyist and pro's alike to have a venue to widen portfolio and at the same time earn some bucks for the gears:)

Just in any system, guidelines & procedures must be in place considering the valid input of some of our dpp members e.g. credit to the fotog, IP & royalty issue etc.

Hi Nick,

I was just wondering, what is the status of this project?

Very good idea. Will there be a membership fee?