:Angry: With the events happenning, does that mean we have to buy new pelicans for USA and UK travel? Hassle. What do you think? How do you suggest one copes with this new regulation?:Sick: :Angry:

whew! good thing I wasn't able to pruchase a big bag as planned. Pelicans here I come! :D

I wonder if the Malayan insurance covers airtravel loss :)

what events happening (gulo around us?)? please ellaborate? i'm lost...

:Angry: With the events happenning, does that mean we have to buy new pelicans for USA and UK travel? Hassle. What do you think? How do you suggest one copes with this new regulation?:Sick: :Angry:


what regulation? :Shock:

it's on the news guys! wonder how you'd carry your macbook pro 17" to london and back! hehehe!

http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=newsOne&storyID=2006-08-11T000933Z_01_N10383008_RTRUKOC_0_US-SECURITY-BRITAIN-USA.xml&WTmodLoc=Home-C1-TopStories-newsOne-2

I think what they are banning are liquid materials on handcarry baggages because terrorists bring liquid exploxives in the plane. If I heard it right last night they said liquid and gel type materials. :)

:Angry: With the events happenning, does that mean we have to buy new pelicans for USA and UK travel? Hassle. What do you think? How do you suggest one copes with this new regulation?:Sick: :Angry:

Pardon my ignorance. What's a Pelican?:(

Pelican hard case 1500 model hard case...this is similar to what I have (black color).

http://www.casesbypelican.com/1500-138_3837.jpg

Pelican hard case 1500 model hard case...this is similar to what I have (black color).

i have the same one. but man, its fricking heavy.

yes it is...I just use it when I go on diving trips (including island hoppings).

ps - it floats on water too.

well there goes the aerial shots . . .

mga sir. san po ba nabibili yang mga yan dito? i mean. meron bang local distributor ang pelican dito sa PI? im interested to buy some of their products. thanks.

US & UK bound passengers will be subjected to the most difficult travel arrangements by checking in ALL electronics gadgets, cameras, cell phones, computers, planners & i hope NOT pace makers!!!! Given the excitement this generates, man you can expect "eager" airport police to misconstrue the order to include ALL! So expect you Suunto divers watches, iPods, various MP3 players to be victims of this new regulation!!!!

mga sir. san po ba nabibili yang mga yan dito? i mean. meron bang local distributor ang pelican dito sa PI? im interested to buy some of their products. thanks.


Island Photo, Gamboa St. Legaspi Village Makati. As Nino said, get ready for a work out!!!:Angry: :Evil: :Angry:

I have a friend coming in the next two days from the US, will be leaving his gear to avoid the hassle and potential damage to his gear. That's the good news. The bad news is he's threatened to get his filty dirty hands on my Babies while on vacation here!!!!! Ayuy!!!!

I have a friend coming in the next two days from the US, will be leaving his gear to avoid the hassle and potential damage to his gear. That's the good news. The bad news is he's threatened to get his filty dirty hands on my Babies while on vacation here!!!!! Ayuy!!!!

...that can't be good. :)

Island Photo, Gamboa St. Legaspi Village Makati. As Nino said, get ready for a work out!!!:Angry: :Evil: :Angry:

What's the price range for the Pelican?

What's the price range for the Pelican?

What size? They vary from a low of 5k to 20k.
http://www.pelican.com/home.php

try scubaworld. i got mine there. get the 1510 coz it's faa approved as carry on. plus this model has wheels.

Thanks, Derick

Island Photo, Gamboa St. Legaspi Village Makati. As Nino said, get ready for a work out!!!:Angry: :Evil: :Angry:

Say hello to bigger muscles.

My God!!!

GAS again? Rosalie and I just agreed that we are going on hiatus from spending (because there's nothing left na din to spend)... time to save... or our kids will eat lenses for lunch.

But... but... but... this is a necessity, isn't it???!!!

My God!!!

GAS again? Rosalie and I just agreed that we are going on hiatus from spending (because there's nothing left na din to spend)... time to save... or our kids will eat lenses for lunch.



same as Diving equipment purchases Dindin...some of my friends are on a wasabe and rice diet. Me? I'm on noodles.:)

Seriously, you don't need it.....for now, I guess.

same as Diving equipment purchases Dindin...some of my friends are on a wasabe and rice diet. Me? I'm on noodles.:)

Seriously, you don't need it.....for now, I guess.

well you are actually luck that you're on noodles. i'm on skyflakes and peanut butter just to cut on costs. seriously.

well you are actually luck that you're on noodles. i'm on skyflakes and peanut butter just to cut on costs. seriously.

:Grin: I didn't know that "diet" is a cheaper option Nino....:D

mga sir. san po ba nabibili yang mga yan dito? i mean. meron bang local distributor ang pelican dito sa PI? im interested to buy some of their products. thanks.

Pelican cases are normally available in most dive shops in manila. Ibaibang sukat. Keeps your gear nice and secure. Its water tight also. But its a bit heavy...:)

try scubaworld. i got mine there. get the 1510 coz it's faa approved as carry on. plus this model has wheels.

James, how much is the 1510?

And am planning to travel soon. Just as I was looking for a nice unassuming backpack small enough for my camera, 2 lenses and a CompactDrive, looks like I have to buy a Pelican as well.

Aperture in Banawe also carries Pelican cases. Frank told me that this week they will have the complete line-up. If my memory is still loyal to me, I think the 1510 is 11K thereabouts, and the one of almost the same size but without wheels is 9k.

Just as I was looking for a nice unassuming backpack small enough for my camera, 2 lenses and a CompactDrive, looks like I have to buy a Pelican as well.

Regardless of the bag, CHECK-IN yan!! Its a sorry state caused by terrorism. You mind them, they bomb you, you don't mind them, they bomb you!:Angry: :Angry: So far no one has offered options on how to transport - Looks like there will be an increase in Pelican sales, at least for those who travel a lot to the USA & UK.:)

Great, was hoping to carry my DSLR as a carry-on to the U.S. next week. Hope my lens cases and Tamrac bag do the trick inside a basic roller....

So laptops are to be checked-in too? :(

i use a 1510 which is supposed to be airline size and all my gear is in there including the laptop. im not so hot about checking it in though and i do LUG it around. good thing there are wheels and an extendable handle for the case.

do you think that this regulation will cover the Philippines too? knowing how much we react, it may be soon.

what do you guys think?

From PAL -

"Effective immediately, all North America-bound PAL passengers are advised that:

* No liquids or gels are permitted on board the aircraft as carry-on items. These include beverages, shampoo, lotions, creams, toothpaste, hair gel and other items of similar consistency.

* Exceptions are allowed only in the following cases:

a) Baby formula, breast milk or juice if a baby or small child is traveling
b) Prescription medicine with a name that matches the passenger's ticket
c) Insulin and other essential non-prescription medicines

* PAL and airport security will thoroughly search passengers' carry-on baggage as well as their persons to ensure compliance. Any item listed above will be confiscated. To avoid this, passengers are advised to include such articles in their checked luggage.

* Passengers who refuse to be searched will be denied boarding.

* Passengers are strongly advised to travel light, especially concerning their carry-on baggage, in order to expedite the screening process.

These measures are on top of ongoing security procedures on all North America-bound PAL flights, such as the removal and screening of footwear, and the exclusion of pointed, bladed and flammable items onboard.

Covered by this advisory are PAL flights from Manila bound for Los Angeles, San Francisco, Las Vegas (via Vancouver), Honolulu and Guam."

------So far they said very light electronics, those that fit a belt bag are allowed, at least for PAL. You can already imagine over zealous security personnel to have varied interpretation of the above items.

If these terrorists keep thinking of ways of getting bombs on board, pretty soon we'll all be boarding flights carrying nothing at all.

Hi Guys,

Any ideas about the implication to local flights? I have out of town photoshoot two (2) weeks from now and we will also be bringing our video lights and stands. I've seen how the airline personnel throw our check-in baggage. I think a normal trolley bag is not safe even if you put your tamrac camera and laptop bags inside. Worst, the TSA Security in the United States don't allow you to put padlocks on your luggage, so it's very tempting for some people to steal our gear. Knowing that it is a pelican, it's obvious that something expensive is inside. Instead of buying a Tamrac or Lowe Pro bag, I have no choice now but to buy a Pelican to protect my gear. Well, I guess it should be included again in our costing when we charge the client or they should pay pro rata for our insurance premium. What do think?

hmm.. last i flew domestic in the US was January and they allowed an extra hand carry item provided it was a camera/computer bag. So the allowed 1.5pcs was extended to 2.5.. This was a ruling about a year and a half ago but due to recent events im not sure if it still stands. I really would not recommend checking in your valuable electronics if you can get away with taking it on board with you. I think the baggage insurance for PAL is like 25$ per kilo (or smthing like that) :s
I fly every year to the US and never had a problem with carrying a backpack full of camera/computer gear, theyd just ask me to turn it on and thats it. I guess we'l hav to see how recent events unfold into security when entering the US..

oh btw, if you are taking a pelican with you and plan to put a lock on it make sure its one of those FAA approved ones which they can open with their skeleton key.. i had a regular lock on mine and they had to call me down to the security dept for me to open up the lock.. hehe.. opened it up and showed them my dirty laundry.. :)

well there goes the aerial shots . . .

Darn, I was so looking forward to improve my aerial shots with my hubby's cybershot... :RedEye:

http://static.flickr.com/68/177544976_1d6c5b55bc.jpg

http://www.flickr.com/photos/d2digital/177544976

@caloy

at least, pang-long life...

as for me,

no more dinner outs even on weekends (except my weekly date with my fam)... and in the office, skyflakes, too!!! plus, baon same as my kids, just so I can save... ;-)


same as Diving equipment purchases Dindin...some of my friends are on a wasabe and rice diet. Me? I'm on noodles.:)

Seriously, you don't need it.....for now, I guess.

For any bag (Pelican or other wise) that may be checked-in, and have compliance locks, try Pac-safe,
http://www.pac-safe.com/www/index.php?_room=3&_action=detail&id=48

Pacsafe is an adjustable high-tensile stainless steel locking device, designed to cover and protect a variety of bags and packs from tampering, pilfering and theft.

I use this so i can leave my bags temporarily unattended in crowded places fastened to a post or immovable structure. Basically good for large items that would not slip through its web-like gaps. So throw your Pelican with a compliance lock into a Backpacker Model of Pac-Safe.

Another bag introduced by a friend Alex L, is Porter case; http://www.portercase.com/
Its alot more expensive than a Pelican, but is really made for heavy electronics "traveller". So for the chap who travels with expensive electronics, this is a wise investment. I consider this more for professional protection use with ROI plans, for hobbyists like me, Pelican is more than enough.

Looks like the difficulty is getting into the US. A friend left yesterday (asia only) with his DSLR, one lens, backpack, no problemo.

(CNN) -- Here are airline restrictions put in place since the discovery of an alleged terror plot aimed at airliners flying between Great Britain and the United States:

Travelers boarding commercial flights at a U.S. airport will not be allowed to carry "any liquids, including beverages, hair gels, and lotions" onto airliners.

Passengers on flights from Great Britain are prohibited from carrying electronics on board. There are no such restrictions on people traveling on domestic flights or from the U.S. to Great Britain.

Beverages purchased beyond security checkpoints must be consumed before boarding -- they will not be permitted aboard the aircraft.

TSA screeners will recheck every bag at boarding gates for banned items, preventing passengers from carrying items purchased in boarding areas.

Gate-side inspections are taking place for all passengers on flights to Great Britain. On other flights, the TSA is conducting random gate-side inspections.

Federal security directors -- the top TSA officials at airports -- have discretion on how to implement the new policy. They can also use any resource available to conduct the inspections, meaning they can use their own screeners, state and local law enforcement personnel or airline personnel.

13 August 2006

Hi Guys,

Thanks for your advice, feedback and inputs. I really appreciate it. I do hope that the restrictions is limited only to the United States and Great Britain and not to our local flights and Asian Trips. Last time, I was in Japan was in 2004 and when I arrived at the airport around 7am, the restaurants and other establishments were still closed. Well, we have no choice but to wait and eat expensive food at the airport while our connecting flight to the US is delayed. I agree that its a wise investment to buy durable protection for our photo and electronics gear. Many suppliers will be happy with this development in a Marketing sense and have an increase in demand. Happy Shooting and safe travel to all.

thanks for the info at least my next trip will just be in Asia I thought i will not be able to bring my gear buti na lang

i just flew in from CDO last saturday and they still allowed me to bring in my camera, laptop and ipod
according to my pilot friend, the ban on hand-carry luggage is for flights going to the US. for other destinations they still impose the 'no liquid' policy.
passengers in the CDO-MLA flight last saturday were still allowed hand carry but had to take out items such as cologne/perfume, rubbing alchohol, baby milk forumulas (some had to taste it in front of security). my companion was asked to dispose of the batteries of this LCD remote control unit.
they didn't require me to take out the batteries of my camera
but it's always best to confirm with your airline what you are allowed or not allowed to bring in

Looks like we're still allowed to handcarry our cameras and other electronics gear then? At least for flights not from the UK to the US.

Looks like we're still allowed to handcarry our cameras and other electronics gear then? At least for flights not from the UK to the US.

i would think but then again, would double check before i travel

this is what i got from my travel agent early this a.m.

Dear All Valued Clients & Friends,

Would like to share below information due to the raise in security level after the recent incident in London a couple days ago.
Please find the latest security bulletin of the following airlines regarding cabin baggage.

Cathay Pacific
To UK >> No cabin bags allowed, no liquids, no electronic items, no batteries. ALLOW ONLY travel documents & wallet
To US >> One cabin bag allowed but, NO liquids, NO electronic items, batteries. Needs to be at airport 3 hours prior to departure time for security check.

Lufthansa
To Frankfurt & other European destinations >> One cabin bag allowed but there will be 2 checks before boarding.

British Airways
NO cabin bags allowed, NO liquids, NO electronic items, ALLOW ONLY travel documents & wallet

Virgin Atlantic
To London (final destination) >> One bag allowed, NO liquids, NO electronic items
To Other destinations VIA London >> NO cabin bags allowed, NO liquids, No electronic items. ALLOW ONLY travel documents & wallet

United Airlines
To US >> One cabin bag ALLOWED, NO liquids, electronic items ALLOWED BUT NO BATTERIES. Needs to be at airport 3 hours prior to departure time for security check

Enclosed herewith the information of New UK Domestic Check-in Requirements.

We would appreciate it if you would share the enclosed information with your friends and relatives who may be interested.

this is what i got from my travel agent early this a.m.

Oh man, ang luffet!:Angry: :Angry:

Well I guess I would be allowed to bring my film manual cameras and some primes with it. In most of my travels (local and foreign) anyway I do bring only either an F3HP or FM3A with a 35 1.4 AI-S, 50 1.2 AI and a 135 2.8 AI-S. These are very light travel gears and does take good and very sharp pics. I could not imagine putting my AF lenses and DSLR inside a check-in luggage.

On the bright side, maybe this will boost Asian tourism :D

I just flew in from HK and i never experienced any hassles in hand carrying my camera and other gear......I guess the restrictions are being done in the UK and US...but I guess other countries would follow soon in enforcing these restrictions...it may be just a matter of time

Hi Guys,

Thanks again for the inputs and latest update. I just heard from the news that the Alert Level has now been downgraded from red to orange allert in the United States and hand carry bags are now allowed except for liquids. I still don't know the status regarding batteries for our digital cameras and laptops. Will call Nortwest Airlines tomorrow since they are an American Carrier and will be updated the recent developments. I do hope that we will be allowed to put battery inside our camera and laptop. If we put all of the batteries in our check-in luggage and it gets lost then we have no choice but to buy batteries abroad for our shoot? The luggage of my brother who arrived in the United States last summer got lost in transit and it took a week before they were able to retrieved it.
Having a manual film-based SLR is still the best back-up camera option as what other photographers in the United States do even if they have digital cameras as their main equipment.

Let's hope that this is only temporary and things will return back to normal soon. Best Regards to all and God Bless.

You can use pelicans or you can rig your normal check-in travel case and foam it to fit your equipment... It's less obvious... You have to be sure and secure of your packing though--you know these things checked-in really do get thrown and take a beating much :) Oh, and this time you need to travel lighter... Get a scale.

A month ago there was no restriction... brought my toploader to Iligan City for my lolas wake.. went back last week for the 40th day and everything seemed to be ok until i flew back to manila...

the airport in cagayan de oro says the ipod isnt allowed on the plane... but i said i used it on the way here.... they were going to ask me to check it in but just convinced them to let me keep it.

They have a thing for wires... the girl kept asking do you have any wires in the bag... (this was in the hand search.. already passed the xray machine) good thing i moved my laptop and celphone charger to the suitcase.. wasl lucky my card reader which had a usb cable was in the side pocket...

Am not sure if general guidelines have come out... would be good to get a copy...

the airport in cdo is really funny....a few days after all this brouhaha came out i was able to fly out of cdo with my camera, laptop, and ipod in my hand carry...together with all the wires...but what they didn't allow me to bring on the plane (hand carry or check in) was my pinakurat vinegar!

i got into UK with my nova 4aw...no issues....

getting out ill find out in 3 months time hehehe.....

anyone know any ruling about bringing out their slrs?

I was in Spain for 1 month and just got back a few days ago. I had no problems with hand carry. I hand carried my gear complete with batteries and they did not give me a problem. Even my stopover in Amsterdam, they did not question the contents of my bag. They just xray everything! you remove every metal object with you even your watch. The also did some random checks on shoes.

well pelicans are a good investment to take care of your gear. i hate that you can't hand carry your equipment but i guess you would have to comply or else you would need to leave your gear. i'm saving up for the perfect model. i'll get one as soon as i go to jt photo hehe!

The problem if your baggage will get lost or ma nakaw. Airline will will just pay you few hundred $ .... then you will regret bringing your gears. Rampant ang nakawan in some ports.

US, UK, way too paranoid. As one poster said, they'd get bombed anyway. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

I'm more worried about local flights. I can just imagine them throwing our camera bags in a pile. Pelican or not, ouch!

so JTPhoto sells the best prices pelican cases?

Ms. Pilar, you werent scared to run your gear through the xray? people have reported bad things after getting them scanned....

My wife just flew to the US last Sunday. With all the camera gear (350D, 2 lenses, batteries, charger, speedlite, CF cards, Casio P&S, etc.) in her backpack. Not a single problem. They only prohibited liquids, lotions, gels and the like. She even had wet wipes for our son on her backpack and it was fine.

Didn't need to buy a new pelican case just to travel to the US. She even took pictures on the airplane. :)

Whew, this is a sigh of relief. We will be spending the Halloween break in Kota Kinabalu and I can't imagine not bringing my gear. Is there anybody here who had some problems during their Asian travel lately?

Whew, this is a sigh of relief. We will be spending the Halloween break in Kota Kinabalu and I can't imagine not bringing my gear. Is there anybody here who had some problems during their Asian travel lately?

from what i heard only liquids are banned for onboard carry. camera gear can now be brought aboard flights to singapore/hk.

from what i heard only liquids are banned for onboard carry. camera gear can now be brought aboard flights to singapore/hk.
Thanks bro.:)

Don't worry unless you are carrying your entire system, you will still be allowed to have your small camera bag and 1 or 2 DSLRs as carry on -- even in US and UK. Just did the exact thing when we visited Photokina.

fol

Encountered no problems during a recent hkg trip.

Carried 2 slrs, all of my lenses and laptop.

The problem was my back... too darn heavy gear!! :Grin:

i flew from LAX to MNL on September 18th. I brought two large lowepro bags stuffed with gear. I am a bit paranoid about checking my camrea gear so i always travel with them as handcarry. In light of the recent regulations, I checked the TSA website and it did not have any travel restrictions, at the time.

My bags were Lowepro computrek AW+ with 3 bodies, 5 lenses (21mm, 43mm, 77mm, 16-45mm and 400mm) flash, batteries, cleaning supplies, and a ton of memory sticks. the other bag was a lowepro 600AW which housed my 600mm f4. from a size standpoint they arent overtly large, but they were damn heavy. I cheated a little and exceeded the weight limits, but i was never stopped or deterred from boarding so all went well.

for traveling pros, if you have a press id, or documentation supporting that you are shooting for a publication, then you are allowed by all means to bring your gear on board. as far as i know (AFAIK) these are the most recent travel advisories for working pros. If you are a tourist, you should still be allowed to travel with a considerable amount of gear.

happy shooting,

mark

Thanks a lot for the responses guys. These comments are very reassuring. :Grin:

i recently travelled to the US with 1 dlsr, 2 lenses and a laptop as handcarry. didn't enounter any problem :) fyi lang :)

What's the latest news in hand-carrying photo gear? I'm planning to bring some stuff on an upcoming biz trip to Hanoi, Vietnam...

just recently went to LA from the phils using PAL and i hand carried my gear which includes 2 dslr bodies, 4 lens, 2 flash, and my laptop...several memory cards and rechargable batts were also in my hand carry...i was using a lowepro compudaypack and a nikon shoulder bag...no problems whatsoever...

What's the latest news in hand-carrying photo gear? I'm planning to bring some stuff on an upcoming biz trip to Hanoi, Vietnam...

the only changes i know that have been made are that you have to carry all your lithium rehcargeable batteries with you - yes, you have to hand carry them. you cannot check them in...i think this includes any rechargeable batteries...am not sure about alkalines...

however, my experience has been that if you check them in, because of the cold temp in the luggage compartment, the batteries are drained when you arrive at your destination...