Nikon D200 vs. D80 [Archive] - Digital Photographer Philippines

Mel Enriquez

08-10-2006, 09:38 AM

To anyone,

How much does a D200 go now? When it first came out it's about P110k, then went down to about P100k. But now, I lost touch.

If the D80 is about U$900 eventually, then if you don't need the other features of the d200, best to get a D80 I guess. Almost like the price of the D50 a year or so ago. And you get much, much, much more too!!

-Mel

chewychua

08-10-2006, 09:49 AM

last i heard, it's around 80K...

maybe at 70k i can get one na. or maybe at 65K... the lower the better. :)

Niko Villegas

08-10-2006, 10:18 AM

If price is not an issue, definitely the D200 for it's Mag-Bod and 5fps above all else. But if I'm on a budget, heck the D80 is one bad-ar$e camera (have to sell these CF cards though). :D

yep, kinda tought to let go of CF cards ;)

tony_santos

08-10-2006, 10:45 AM

tj_parpan

08-10-2006, 11:01 AM

Interesting analysis from Thom Hogan:
http://bythom.com/d80comment.htm

chewychua

08-10-2006, 11:36 AM

i've had the pleasure of using the D50 and i actually have a bunch of SD cards with me. moving the same amount of data, my transcend 512 80x would beat my ridata 80x 1gb by a mile.

it's not scientific but that's my experience, and it has been consistently faster.

Edwin Yabut

08-10-2006, 12:20 PM

It all depends on budget. But given that the D80 is using SD card rather than CF card, (new investment in media cards again) I think I'll go for the D200 instead. If I can afford it.

chewychua

08-10-2006, 01:04 PM

i don't know, but i'd rather buy 3000pesos worth of SD cards to enjoy a body that's 30,000bucks cheaper than the d200 :)

dave_deluria

08-10-2006, 01:06 PM

My sentiments exactly.

It's not like your existing stable of CF will be worthless. They can find a new home.

nap_alcedo

08-10-2006, 05:07 PM

Edwin Yabut

08-10-2006, 05:39 PM

You guys have a point, It's really perception on my part about SD cards. Cause for the longest time I associated SD cards for Digicams and not for DSLR's.

Can somebody shed light on this please? I have been asking about this before I got my D70s. How come DSLR's adopted the CF card? And now Nikon is going the way of the SD...Hmmm. I haven't found an answer yet.

cris_servillas

08-10-2006, 06:12 PM

D200 is weather-sealed & magnesium alloy body. D80 dont use CF card...too bad & hard plastic body.

Gil Penaflorida

08-10-2006, 06:36 PM

SD is faster than CF and cheaper to produce. In the medium term SD will be the mem card norm. The D80 target market are those upgrading from the D50 and mostly for P&S shooters who would want to shift to a DSLR, btw most P&S uses SD so upgrade to a D80 will be a more economical way. A D70 user would most probably go for a D200/D2x body.

Niko Villegas

08-10-2006, 07:37 PM

Does anyone know why SD was Nikon's choice for the D80? Is SD better than CF? One would think that manufacturers would want to have backward compatibility... unless of course SD is an improvement over CF...havent been following the technology on this so a bit clueless on the subject...thanks for any inputs on this.

point in fact that CF is currently an industry standard for storage, most professionals if not all and photojournalists use CF cards

my take on this is that, if Nikon made the D80 compatible with CF and microdrives then they would have a lot of pissed off D200 owners, SD is not as inferior to the CF i guess but personally i still prefer the CF cards for durability and capacity (some CF can reach 8 GB)

and i still go for the D200, hopefully around october and november the D80 will be selling hotcakes and the D200 will decrease in price and then decemeber comes for my birthday i can buy the D200 already with an 18-200 VR hehehe :Grin:

and still save my CF cards :D

manny_illana

08-10-2006, 09:44 PM

case in point for the sd cards... i inadvertently misplaced my 1gb ridata sd after switching to another since it was full..... lo and behold.... my wife found it inside the coin pocket of my jeans.... that is, after it was actually washed, tumbled dried, hung and ironed! how's that for durability?! not sure if a CF could take that tho as it has those pinholes on it. or am i mistaken?
with the advent of sdhc, capacity isn't really a problem. my guess is that they decided to go for the smaller form factor, ergo an incremental reduction in the cam's body size as well. but that's just me.... still enamored by my d200 though... hehe.

tony_santos

08-10-2006, 10:06 PM

point in fact that CF is currently an industry standard for storage, most professionals if not all and photojournalists use CF cards

my take on this is that, if Nikon made the D80 compatible with CF and microdrives then they would have a lot of pissed off D200 owners, SD is not as inferior to the CF i guess but personally i still prefer the CF cards for durability and capacity (some CF can reach 8 GB)

and i still go for the D200, hopefully around october and november the D80 will be selling hotcakes and the D200 will decrease in price and then decemeber comes for my birthday i can buy the D200 already with an 18-200 VR hehehe :Grin:

and still save my CF cards :D

@Niko
@All

Thanks for your inputs. These DPP fora are like the proverbial oracle...ask and you shall be told. :)

jun_staana

08-10-2006, 10:36 PM

am new to the group (and to photography) and would like to share my thoughts ...

in terms of technology, it is easier for manufacturers to store more data with fast access time in a Compact Flash due to its bigger size. that is why in the past, CF has always ruled the world of memory cards.

ironically, its size is also its drawback since it was not a desired choice for use of hand held gadgets such as mp3 players, cell phones and/or digicams (smaller cards were then preferred). but for the high-end dSLRs, fast read-write time and bigger storage are a must so much so CF was the only way to go (despite the size).

but then again, after years of trying, manufacturers were able to finally store more data in SD cards despite its size. to top it all, it can now match the speed of CF cards. as this develops, the notion that SD is inferior to a CF is fast becoming a thing of the past.

in any case, a question still lingers, how far can an SD match the CF in the future (that is when more storage and speed will be necessary considering the physical size of an SD can only take so much)?

going back to the real topic, just like most, D80 will suffice for me considering what it can do at its price. if the difference (from a D200) is something like P20T - P30T, then that amount can be better used to supplement one's budget for a real fast lens.

lastly, lets just hope that local pricing will be reasonable (D50 & D70s were priced P20T-P30T more as comparred to prices abroad) else another trip to Hidalgo.

Marco_Ingco

08-11-2006, 01:42 AM

From dpreview:

Leaving Compact Flash for the professional cameras Nikon has clearly adopted Secure Digital (SD) for its enthusiast and entry level digital SLR's. The card compartment door is located on the rear right edge of the hand grip and opens cleanly revealing a standard SD slot (push to insert, push to remove). The camera does not power down if you open the SD compartment. As well as standard SD (up to 2 GB), the D80 also supports the new SD-HC standard which provides for capacities of 4 GB and greater.

So there... CF for professionals (kuno) and SD for enthusiasts and entry level (that's why the D50 also uses SD)... Not that I'm siding on either one... just quoting.

dodie_legaspi

08-11-2006, 10:16 AM

Ive asked dis question too. D200 or D80. ?as of now D200.
5fs (wc is an improvement)
casing is better
uses cf cards (wc d70 is using) I will just lose those small sd cards, clumsy me!
both have vertical grips
and yes, im hoping prices will go down. 76k last i heard!yahoooooo!
although buttons has completely different orientation coming from d70 buttons
hay NAS talaga!

tnx Tj for the link,it was clear for me

tj_parpan

08-11-2006, 10:57 AM

The objective of SD cards in the D50 and D80, I think, is to get P&S users to consider the 2 models as their first DSLRs.

caloy_samson

08-11-2006, 11:08 AM

The objective of SD cards in the D50 and D80, I think, is to get P&S users to consider the 2 models as their first DSLRs.

If that's the case, I guess the D80 maybe on its way to being the best entry level Dslr camera:)

JonDexterTan

08-11-2006, 11:15 AM

No doubt! :)

If that's the case, I guess the D80 maybe on its way to being the best entry level Dslr camera:)

dindin_lagdameo

08-11-2006, 01:15 PM

I am rooting for a D200 but it seems that the D80 will be more than enough for my needs. The only problem is that sometimes, after I have bought the more practical option, I would lust for the options the next higher model has to offer, even if I might not be able to use the available extra options to the limit...This techo-lust thing really sucks bigtime...I want it, but do I really need it?

Hi doc...

You might find the handling of the D80 a bit small... well, that's because I've already met you in person. Remember, the body size is like that of a D50.

As for me, I love my D200 so much that even after reading the D80 product release literature, I'm still smiling. It's simply amazing... oh, 5.2 FPS... magnesium body... and lots more... Heaven (on earth)!!! And, the D200 size is so perfect for my hands (kamay lalaki ata pero soft)...

ecstatic with my d200,
din2

tj_parpan

08-11-2006, 02:30 PM

Hi doc...

You might find the handling of the D80 a bit small... well, that's because I've already met you in person. Remember, the body size is like that of a D50.

din2

Good thing it has a battery grip option! :)

Norman_P._Aquino

08-11-2006, 02:34 PM

Here's a review of the D80:http://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/articles/view.php?cid=15&id=2016

Vince_Villamin

08-11-2006, 02:39 PM

caloy_samson

08-11-2006, 02:47 PM

Hi doc...

You might find the handling of the D80 a bit small... well, that's because I've already met you in person. Remember, the body size is like that of a D50.

As for me, I love my D200 so much that even after reading the D80 product release literature, I'm still smiling. It's simply amazing... oh, 5.2 FPS... magnesium body... and lots more... Heaven (on earth)!!! And, the D200 size is so perfect for my hands (kamay lalaki ata pero soft)...

ecstatic with my d200,
din2

wag manginggit po...palo:D

caloy_samson

08-11-2006, 02:50 PM

Hi where did you get the 76k price tag for the D80? I just came from Mayers and Ramon still has no idea how much the camera would cost. Thanks!

Vince, Dodie was referring to the D200, 76k body only.:)

vernes_go

08-11-2006, 03:11 PM

76k for the D200 body is quite cheap already!! NAS time!!! :Grin::Grin:

caloy_samson

08-11-2006, 03:17 PM

76k for the D200 body is quite cheap already!! NAS time!!! :Grin::Grin:

IMHO, mid of next year would be the best time to buy.:)

Vince_Villamin

08-11-2006, 04:09 PM

wow talaga? D200 only 76K. :)

Mel Enriquez

08-11-2006, 04:37 PM

wow talaga? D200 only 76K. :)

You said, it Vince! Wow!:Dum:

And to think, when it first came in, I was one of the early one to handle it. Ramon said, a lady already paid in advance for it P110,000!!!!

-Mel

chewychua

08-11-2006, 04:55 PM

76k?!?!?! oh my... d80? whats that? :lol:

Gil Penaflorida

08-11-2006, 06:06 PM

The D80 will sell at US$ 1,000 and the 18-135 3.5-4.5 will come out as it's kit priced at about US$ 400 more or less. The new 70-300 3.5-4.5 VRII will be out during the Photokina end of September and will retail at US$ 600.00 approx. The D200 now at Henry's with a deposit of Php 10K is at Php 78K Mayer is still at Php 84K.

The D80 will have an MBD80 battery grip with main command dial and shutter release and will still use the D70 remote shutter release.

Here are some links

http://www.nikonians.org/nikon/d80

http://chsv.nikonimaging.com/global/products/digitalcamera/slr/d80/pdf/D80_16p.pdf

nap_alcedo

08-11-2006, 06:48 PM

Jovit_Morando

08-11-2006, 09:06 PM

76k for the d200? saan po ito? last time i went to quiapo 85k pa din ang lowest ko na nakita.

John P. Reyes

08-11-2006, 10:12 PM

76k for the d200? saan po ito? last time i went to quiapo 85k pa din ang lowest ko na nakita.

I think Aperture quoted Nap Alcedo 76K. Am I right, Nap?

dodie_legaspi

08-12-2006, 12:01 AM

Hi where did you get the 76k price tag for the D80? I just came from Mayers and Ramon still has no idea how much the camera would cost. Thanks!
Sir I meant D200 at 76.
Oh my at henrys 78k and its here already with local warranty? hmmmmmm. nas!

vernes_go

08-12-2006, 01:24 AM

by mid next year, there might be a replacement already for the D200 since it will be 18 months since it was launched :D

IMHO, mid of next year would be the best time to buy.:)

nap_alcedo

08-12-2006, 05:25 AM

I think Aperture quoted Nap Alcedo 76K. Am I right, Nap?

Frank of Aperture said 78k, but that was almost two weeks ago. I am sure he can match that price or even go lower than that.

Jovit_Morando

08-12-2006, 08:26 AM

Wow, do they sell it to all customers at that price or to "suki" only?

nap_alcedo

08-12-2006, 08:46 AM

Wow, do they sell it to all customers at that price or to "suki" only?

I am not really a suki, although I think I developed a certain degree of rapport with them, especially with Jennifer. Just tell Jennifer I referred you to her, and that price was what Frank and I talked about. :)