Hi guys,

Would there be any Pentax seminars/training to be conducted soon? I just bought my K10D last week, it's my first DSLR. I'm an amateur photographer, basically in love with journalistic photography. And i alwas wanted to be shooting for a leading local or international print media companies. A seminar or maybe an EB for all Pentaxians (to discuss usage of similar pentax DSLR models) to discuss techniques, ideas and other stuff that would help improve a newbie's skills would be very very exciting. what do u think, guys?

bests,
larrymonseratepiojo

Hi guys,

Would there be any Pentax seminars/training to be conducted soon? I just bought my K10D last week, it's my first DSLR. I'm an amateur photographer, basically in love with journalistic photography. And i alwas wanted to be shooting for a leading local or international print media companies. A seminar or maybe an EB for all Pentaxians (to discuss usage of similar pentax DSLR models) to discuss techniques, ideas and other stuff that would help improve a newbie's skills would be very very exciting. what do u think, guys?

bests,
larrymonseratepiojo


larry,

i have a wedding shoot on may 12. you can bring your gear and practice. the bride's a friend. i'll private mail the details to you later if you want to come along. God bless.

joey

There are a couple of kids on vacation for whom I'll hold a basic photo workshop. No definite details yet, but it might be on a Saturday and in Union Church of Manila (Makati/Legaspi Village). But definitely before end of May and the start of classes.

Meron din akong wedding...:)

Bong

There are a couple of kids on vacation for whom I'll hold a basic photo workshop. No definite details yet, but it might be on a Saturday and in Union Church of Manila (Makati/Legaspi Village). But definitely before end of May and the start of classes.

Meron din akong wedding...:)

Bong


Hi bong!

Sounds good to me! Any opportunity to boost up my photography skills is definitely a go! do send me your details and I will do my part to adjust my schedule to yours! Hope to see you around soon!

bests,
athrio

larry,

i have a wedding shoot on may 12. you can bring your gear and practice. the bride's a friend. i'll private mail the details to you later if you want to come along. God bless.

joey

hey man! may 12... that's next saturday... hmmm... i think im free by then! Ill let you know okay! i look forward to meeting up with other Pentaxians!

--athrio

There are a couple of kids on vacation for whom I'll hold a basic photo workshop. No definite details yet, but it might be on a Saturday and in Union Church of Manila (Makati/Legaspi Village). But definitely before end of May and the start of classes.

Meron din akong wedding...:)

Bong

bong, txt me details of this pag okay na. tnx.

bong, txt me details of this pag okay na. tnx.

The workshop or the wedding? :)

...ano pa nga ba :D sure!

Bong

may bayad po ba ito? hehehe

The workshop or the wedding? :)

...ano pa nga ba :D sure!

Bong

the workshop. larry might drop by sanly cubao this saturday. if so, i'll meet him there so we can help him with his gear.

joey

Hi guys,

Would there be any Pentax seminars/training to be conducted soon? I just bought my K10D last week, it's my first DSLR. I'm an amateur photographer, basically in love with journalistic photography. And i alwas wanted to be shooting for a leading local or international print media companies. A seminar or maybe an EB for all Pentaxians (to discuss usage of similar pentax DSLR models) to discuss techniques, ideas and other stuff that would help improve a newbie's skills would be very very exciting. what do u think, guys?

bests,
larrymonseratepiojo
A classroom-type tutorial ba?

Hey Guys it's been a while and right now there are many Pentax users coming in.:D
@Bong
- When will be the tutorial?:)

Hey Guys it's been a while and right now there are many Pentax users coming in.:D
@Bong
- When will be the tutorial?:)

Tentatively, its on May 12 (more details later) and it was intended for kids (teens & college kids) of friends who want to get into photography (or migrating from P&S to SLRs). Suppose to be a small group, but if it gets any larger, then the more "formal" the format will be. Will post here when details are more definite.

Bong

i would appreciate the company of other pentax users to sanly cubao on saturday. that is... if it's okay with joseph. :)

Heto na ang pinaka hihintay kong seminar ng mga Pentaxians!

Sir Bong...I'm not sure pero pwede bang last minute decision ako? Depends on the sched e.

@ Larry- What time will you be there?

@ Jamie- Sure, pati ako last minute din e :D

Seriously, I may have to rethink this because the original plan for the tutorial I mentioned was for kids of family friends moving up from P&S to SLR. I think the Pentaxians should have something more specifically suited for Pentax. EB muna tayo ang pagusapan over coffee!

Bong

Mmmmm... game parin ako as usual. :D

so bong's planned seminar is on MAY 12. (can't join you then bong. i have a wedding.)

LARRY (ARTHRIO) and i are meeting on MAY 5, this saturday at sanly cubao. we'd welcome other pentaxians for coffee c/o sanly's leonard velasco. we'd also get to help larry with his gear. so we'll just see you all this saturday. God bless.

joey

so bong's planned seminar is on MAY 12. (can't join you then bong. i have a wedding.)

LARRY (ARTHRIO) and i are meeting on MAY 5, this saturday at sanly cubao. we'd welcome other pentaxians for coffee c/o sanly's leonard velasco. we'd also get to help larry with his gear. so we'll just see you all this saturday. God bless.

joey

@joey/larry
sama na rin ako jan.. wat time ba yan?

@bong
mas sasama ako jan sa training mo :Grin:

@joey/larry
sama na rin ako jan.. wat time ba yan?

@bong
mas sasama ako jan sa training mo :Grin:

May 5 - 3PM: Coffee at Sanly with Joey & Larry (I might be there...)

May 12- 3PM: Tutorial kuno...inireserve ko pa yun venue :HeadPhones:

Bong

Mga sirs, until what time kayo diyan? Gusto kong humabol kasi may movie premiere simbahan namin sa umaga tapos may kikitain akong friend after. :)

@ Vince,

1.May 5 -3PM: Coffee in Sanly ... hanggang may kape! :Grin:

2.May 12-3PM: Tutorial kuno ... habang may araw! (unless mag-night photography). Then we go to *bucks where a variation to the axiom for #1 applies (haggang may pang-bayad ng kape!)

See you in Sanly!

Bong

@ Larry- What time will you be there?

@ Jamie- Sure, pati ako last minute din e :D

Seriously, I may have to rethink this because the original plan for the tutorial I mentioned was for kids of family friends moving up from P&S to SLR. I think the Pentaxians should have something more specifically suited for Pentax. EB muna tayo ang pagusapan over coffee!

Bong

sir bong, try ko po mga before 3pm nandun na. sana nga nandun din kayo lahat para mas marami ako matututunan! :)

Mga sirs, until what time kayo diyan? Gusto kong humabol kasi may movie premiere simbahan namin sa umaga tapos may kikitain akong friend after. :)

we will stay at sanly until larry becomes an expert in using his k10d or until coffee runs out. whichever comes first. you're most welcome to join us. we'll be there waiting for you. God bless.

joey

we will stay at sanly until larry becomes an expert in using his k10d or until coffee runs out. whichever comes first. you're most welcome to join us. we'll be there waiting for you. God bless.

joey

naku... baka maunang maubos ang kape!!! :D

naku... baka maunang maubos ang kape!!! :D

yup, yun din iniisip ko e. haha. :D

tomorrow's a game?

tomorrow's a game?

i'll be there around 2:45pm.

joey

i'll be there around 2:45pm.

joey

ok! ako din mga ganun or earlier...

Naunang maubos yun kape! :D

Nice meeting up with you Larry. In between the coffee, the jokes, Larry's K10D & trying on the Pentax 645 lens on my MX, we also talked about training seminars for Pentax users. Forget May 12 (although if you're around Makati 3PMish, PM me) at abangan ang May 26.

We plan to have a series of workshops that are:

1) equipment centered (i.e., features of the K10D & how to make the most of it)
2) photography centered (i.e., basic photography, portraits, etc.)

Details to follow.

Bong

Naunang maubos yun kape! :D

Nice meeting up with you Larry. In between the coffee, the jokes, Larry's K10D & trying on the Pentax 645 lens on my MX, we also talked about training seminars for Pentax users. Forget May 12 (although if you're around Makati 3PMish, PM me) at abangan ang May 26.

We plan to have a series of workshops that are:

1) equipment centered (i.e., features of the K10D & how to make the most of it)
2) photography centered (i.e., basic photography, portraits, etc.)

Details to follow.

Bong
We can bring models for the portraits

We can bring models for the portraits

Oo nga naman...we wouldn't want to take OUR own photos :D

Bong

Oo nga naman...we wouldn't want to take OUR own photos :D

Bong
Dagdag na Studio, we can have our shooting in my friend's studio in Makati

Wow, nakakaexcite naman to hehe.

Naunang maubos yun kape! :D

Nice meeting up with you Larry. In between the coffee, the jokes, Larry's K10D & trying on the Pentax 645 lens on my MX, we also talked about training seminars for Pentax users. Forget May 12 (although if you're around Makati 3PMish, PM me) at abangan ang May 26.

We plan to have a series of workshops that are:

1) equipment centered (i.e., features of the K10D & how to make the most of it)
2) photography centered (i.e., basic photography, portraits, etc.)

Details to follow.

Bong

alang hiya naman oh... ive written two paragraphs here already and when i hit submit... i wasnt logged in daw!!!!

Anyways, i was saying.... Thank you to Sir Bong, Sir Joey and of course to our host Sir Leonard of Sanly's Cubao! Great to have finally met you guys. Thanks a lot for your time... I had a wonderful learning experience with you all! The training simply went out as ordinary chit-chat, laugh trip, at syempre may kape! We basically talked about features of the K10D, and how to use them and general photography tips and tricks. I just asked them anything i had in mind.. and guess what??? they have answers!!! biruin nyo yun! hehehe mala late ernie baron! And who says there's no such thing as FREE LUNCH??? ehem! But of course, it wouldve been more exciting if there are other Pentax newbies who came along yesterday afternoon. Medyo nanghina powers ko sa galing ng mga mentors dun eh. So sana next time marami na tayo, mga Pentax newbies/photography enthusiasts... We'll definitely gonna do that again, right mga sirs? Cause i have collected more questions and clarifications regarding K10D and general photography... ;) and syempre, excited na rin ako sa mga shootouts na gagawin... kung kelan man un... sana sooner...

Oh, btw Sir Leonard... kinalikot ko knina ung flash... and i discovered using the external flash (in wireless mode) as the MASTER flash, and the built-in as the controller (will not fire and actual flash). So yan, makakatipid na ako. But I definitely still gonna need those items in the near term! Salamat sa kape! next time uli! :D

--ATHRIO

ok lang ba sumama kahit naka-K100D...^_^

@randall
nabili na yung old lens sa hidalgo....:(

ok lang ba sumama kahit naka-K100D...^_^

@randall
nabili na yung old lens sa hidalgo....:(

randy,

pwede sumama basta pentax ang cam at mahilig sa kape. re lens, i recently got a pentax m 50mm/1.7 for P1,300 and a pentax m 28mm/2.8 for P900 sa hidalgo. parehong makinis at malinis.

plus, i might be able to add an A 35-70mm/4 if bong manayon finally decides to sell his second copy.

looking forward to your presence in the upcoming meetings after may 19.

joey

Question for K10D users.

Is it true that when shoting in manual mode, autobracketing with K10D changes both the aperture and shutter speed? You cannot tell the camera to lock one of the two?

I have to ask this before i change my avatar :D

Wow, I thought you were just pulling my leg when you said you were considering shifting to Pentax... most people are. :p

Yes, the AV and TV changes in M and TAV mode. I use AV if I want to lock the aperture and TV if I want to lock the shutter speed. I engage AE-L to lock the metering so that area metering variations aren't a problem. :Grin:

Thanks Randall. Hmmm.. <isip isip> .That's a major issue for me. I hope it will be fixed with the next firmware version.

Hmmm I read something about this in DPR, but I still can't understand what would be the issue? I haven't really played much with HDR yet so maybe you can enlighten me? :D

Paging Ned Bunnel c/o Doc Mark... next firmware... AV/TV lock for bracketing in manual hehe. And I still want my AF assist only for the flash and the fix for the RAW button. :/ Hehe.

Hmmm I read something about this in DPR, but I still can't understand what would be the issue? I haven't really played much with HDR yet so maybe you can enlighten me? :D

Shooting VR/panorama requires you to shoot in Manual mode. Autobracketing is the fastest and safest way to shoot HDR. Shooting HDR requires you to lock the Aperture to prevent changes in DOF. So if you want to shoot HDR panoramas, this is an issue. Manual+Autobracketing is a must.

But wouldn't using AV + AE-L + Auto Bracketing be the same thing?

But wouldn't using AV + AE-L + Auto Bracketing be the same thing?

Will AE-L + Autobracketing works? I tought AE-L will lock both Aperture and Shutter Speed.

Nope. AV + Autobracketing locks the Aperture and the AE-L locks the meter calculation on the first shot for center weighted and spot metering and locks the area metering in place when using Matrix metering coupled with the "Link AF point and AE" in the customs menu. :D

Well I could be wrong, but that's how I did it in Sagada to remove the metering variations.

Hello...

@ Mitz... Do I assume you are going to stitch multiple shots to create a panoramic photo?

@ Randall... the K10D has a hyper-manual mode where you peg the aperture and the shutter speed and the ISO is the movable variable di ba?

Wala akong K10D but I'm trying to read both your minds :Evil:

Bong

Bong, Yes. Stitch multiple HDR images for panoramic image. Variable ISO is also not desirable since you'll have differences in noise.

Ang galing galing talaga ni Bong!

Now I found it. There's a new option since FW 1.11 when pressing the green button. There are 3 options:

Customs Menu: Green Button in TAv & M

1. Program Line
- Sets the aperture and shutter speed to the Program Line exposure

2. Tv Shift
- Sets the shutter speed with fixed aperture to adjust the exposure

3. Av Shift
- Sets the aperture with fixed shutter speed to adjust the exposure

Pressing the green button in Hypermanual with option 2 Tv Shift enabled + the AE-L button will lock the aperture in place. :)

Wala pang K10D si Bong nyan haha! You truly are a mind reader! You can even read the K10D's electronic PRIME brain. :D

By the way this also works in TAv mode.

It also works in HyperProgram mode with Av shift. :D Weee I learned alot of buried things in the K10D today hehe.

Edit: Even SV mode prioritizes to lock the aperture. :)

Bong, Yes. Stitch multiple HDR images for panoramic image. Variable ISO is also not desirable since you'll have differences in noise.
How do you achieve over- or under- exposure if you cannot change any of those variables (shutter/aperture/ISO)? The idea behind panoramas is that your exposure (and white balance) should be on manual to achieve the same kind of exposure throughout, so the sweep should be done rather quickly to avoid sudden light changes-wouldn't auto-bracketing delay that process? And if the idea is to have an over- and under- exposed versions, why not sweep the panorama three times?

Mark (Robert's) is an authority on panoramas and his site can be accessed here (http://www.robertstech.com/panorama.htm). He's also a Pentax user and can be found in the Pentax Discuss Mailing List (http://www.pdml.net).

Bong

I think Mitz just wants the shutter to be the only variable which doesn't really affect anything except the exposure time. A variable Aperture affects DOF which will result in some OOF composites and a variable ISO affects noise which is already a problem with HDR I think since it more than doubles the amount of noise present in the original shots.

Autobracketing just makes life easier and faster.

I think Mitz just wants the shutter to be the only variable which doesn't really affect anything except the exposure time. A variable Aperture affects DOF which will result in some OOF composites and a variable ISO affects noise which is already a problem with HDR I think since it more than doubles the amount of noise present in the original shots.

Autobracketing just makes life easier and faster.

Oh okay...I guess I didn't read Mitz mind right...back to my bolang krytal :Grin:

Bong

ummm... :D what's an Autobracketing in K10D? isn't that the one where you shoot 5 or 3 images at once with different level of exposure value? and Mr. Randall, what does Program Line actually do for the K10D?

How do you achieve over- or under- exposure if you cannot change any of those variables (shutter/aperture/ISO)? The idea behind panoramas is that your exposure (and white balance) should be on manual to achieve the same kind of exposure throughout, so the sweep should be done rather quickly to avoid sudden light changes-wouldn't auto-bracketing delay that process? And if the idea is to have an over- and under- exposed versions, why not sweep the panorama three times?

Mark (Robert's) is an authority on panoramas and his site can be accessed here (http://www.robertstech.com/panorama.htm). He's also a Pentax user and can be found in the Pentax Discuss Mailing List (http://www.pdml.net).

Bong

I only need to change shutter speed for the bracketing. Blending softwares will take care of the slight variations in exposure and color. Autobracketing should not delay the process since 3 exposures at 3fps only take 1 second. Almost same as when you're not bracketing. The only way to shoot HDR panoramas is by autobracketing. Sweeping the panorama 3 times will create a bigger problem. The light may have changed too much already and some object has moved already before you even take your 2nd sweep. You'll also have problems with alignment since you're touching the camera during these exposure.

Anyway, i dont have problems shooting these HDR panoramas. Ive done it with Nikon and Sony cams. Im only asking the K10D capability.

I visited Mark Roberts site but didnt see any mention of HDR stitching. There's no mention on the site about exposure blending. He also said to avoid scenes with both brightly lit areas and areas in shadow and also to avoid wide panoramas with lots of open sky. In VR photography you cannot avoid this. Didn't see anything from his portfolio that is hard to produce :).

Okay. I guess Randall confirmed the shutter speed variable issue. Sorry for taking the conversation off tangent. :Grin:

Bong

@Larry
The program line in Hyper Program has 4 settings.

1. Normal - General Auto
2 Hi Speed - Which prioritizes the fastest shutter possible
3 Depth - Prioritizes the maximum Depth of Field
4 MTF - Uses the MTF lens data inside the lens and uses the optimal aperture value at a given focal length.

@Mitz
I hope we answered your question. Locking the aperture in HyperManual is possible by enabling the Customs Menu: Green Button in TAv & M andusing the Tv Shift option.

Pressing the green button in Hypermanual + the AE-L button will lock the aperture in place. http://www.digitalphotographer.com.ph/forum/images/smilies/Drogar-Happy%28DBG%29.gif

Thanks Randall and Bong for your replies. I guess i have to go to Sanly and test one or borrow one. Randall can you check it for me? Make a test shot (3-shot autobracket, -2Ev, 0, +2EV and make two other shot of the same bracketing but on a different scene pref. brighter or darker. Send me the the resulting exif. Thanks.

Ok, I'll see what I get when I get home.

So when are we going to schedule the seminar?

Pastor Joey & I are planning two workshops for Pentax users. One of them will be to explore the features of Pentax DSLRs and the other will be a general photography workshop. Time and place will be announced later (most likely a Saturday afternoon) after we're through with our photo projects this May.

Abangan...

Bong

wow... hope I be able to buy a k10D by that time! :)

wow... hope I be able to buy a k10D by that time! :)

Kelan ba? We'll wait for you :D

Napressure tuloy ako magmadali hehe... Hopefully real soon... when is the tentative date that you guys are planning for this ba? So I can plan for it as well:)

Napressure tuloy ako magmadali hehe... Hopefully real soon... when is the tentative date that you guys are planning for this ba? So I can plan for it as well:)

First week of June :Shock:

Just kidding :) probably after June 12th, once the kids' routine in school settles down. Btw, we will include a b&w film processing workshop as well...stay tuned.

Bong

yes. AFTER june 12 is okay.

then after workshop, shoot-out naman po ba? :D

then after workshop, shoot-out naman po ba? :D

Naah. We shoot during the workshop. Now if you plan to shoot people, bring your own model, so we don't have to shoot each other :D

Bong

i want to learn the basics in photography. Has anyone attended previous classes of this seminar (http://thegaragejct.blogspot.com/2007/07/photoworks-garage-batch-4-photography.html)? It's in Ateneo. Please advise before i sign up.

i want to learn the basics in photography. Has anyone attended previous classes of this seminar (http://thegaragejct.blogspot.com/2007/07/photoworks-garage-batch-4-photography.html)? It's in Ateneo. Please advise before i sign up.

"The goal: to create good photographers, not just good photographs."

Not me, but if its from Ateneo, it must be good (sounds like...:D...shows my age)

Anyway, I would recommend that because of the 'philosophy'--so to speak--behind it.

With the proliferation of seminars and classes in photography nowadays, my question is, can I learn on my own? or are there stuffs that I can't learn on my own thus requiring me to attend one of these?:)

With the proliferation of seminars and classes in photography nowadays, my question is, can I learn on my own? or are there stuffs that I can't learn on my own thus requiring me to attend one of these?:)

Yes. No.

If well motivated enough you can learn everything on your own. I learned most of the basics on my own reading books and playing around with my dad's Minolta SRT-101, Canon Datematic (RF), and then later, his Pentax Spotmatic.

But then, because of interest (or the lack of it), there would be stuff which you tend to focus on or ignore. So being in the company of other photographers differently motivated allows you to grow in areas which may not be your primary interest.

So my next level of learning was late in high school when we formed a camera club. We virtually taught each other, on one level validating what we already know and at the same time sharing tricks and tips in the category of "oh, I didn't know that!"

Oh...

Except for a lighting workshop sometime when I was in college, I never really attended any seminars.

Ahhh... I want to learn on my own, just to at least have a sense of achievement, which is why I mentioned in the other thread I prefer manual lenses:) I read lotsa books and constantly search the net for more to learn... one step at a time... oh, and I learn a huge deal here!

Lighting is a total mystery to me so I want to learn all I can with natural lighting first before studying flash and other artificial lighting techniques. And when I master all there is to learn about photography, maybe then I can start understanding photoshop:)

i want to learn the basics in photography. Has anyone attended previous classes of this seminar (http://thegaragejct.blogspot.com/2007/07/photoworks-garage-batch-4-photography.html)? It's in Ateneo. Please advise before i sign up.

I haven't attended that seminar, but at P4,000 for 18 hours of lessons, I think it's very, very reasonable.

Reminiscing time. :)

I had a B&W photography class at college. That's where I learned the basics. Every week, I would borrow a Pentax K1000 with a 50mm f/2 lens (I think) from the department. The technician determined the order of lending and with limited cameras, one has to be creative to be first or second on the list. That was the time when I learned about bribery.

We were given the stick back then. Our professor from hell would choose a single frame from a 36-exposure contact print we labored on for hours-on-hours. In about 10 seconds, she would hate our work and tear our contact prints right in front of class; the trash can was on top of her table for easy dumping. As a sign of rebellion, I intentionally flunked her class - a boycott she hated me for. I was practically banned from the department. :) Hay, good times.

Ahhh... I want to learn on my own, just to at least have a sense of achievement, which is why I mentioned in the other thread I prefer manual lenses:) I read lotsa books and constantly search the net for more to learn... one step at a time... oh, and I learn a huge deal here!

Lighting is a total mystery to me so I want to learn all I can with natural lighting first before studying flash and other artificial lighting techniques. And when I master all there is to learn about photography, maybe then I can start understanding photoshop:)

That's the route I took and given the fact I was a kid self-studying with film meant that it took me a looong time (4 years+ before I could say I knew what I was doing...). Digital has shortened that and seminars allow you to learn all that in about a month.

@francis: hahaha well, look at your b&w pics now! outstanding!(love ko talaga yung sa bahay ni rizal...)

@bong: true, at least with digital, the learning process has shortened significantly! still, the process of learning is half the fun anyway! gives me more reason to go out and shoot:) kasi nagaaral pa eh hehe

The flipside though is that since I never took formal classes, I have difficulty teaching formal classes as well. I get invited often to talk on workshops but I usually drag my feet because I lacked the "structure" of formal learning.

Dapat magkasama kami ni Francisgan :Grin:

haha bong and francis seminar? sama ako jan! (di taga talk ha, taga kinig lang hehe)

Same with my guitar playing, I'm always asked to give lessons but I don't know how since I too was self taught :)

haha bong and francis seminar? sama ako jan! (di taga talk ha, taga kinig lang hehe)

Jak en poy na lang kami as who gets to be the teacher from hell :D

@bong: hahaha... why don't you guys set up a pentax seminar nga ba? though pentaxians aren't that many, I'm sure a significant number of us would attend:)

@bong: hahaha... why don't you guys set up a pentax seminar nga ba? though pentaxians aren't that many, I'm sure a significant number of us would attend:)

We plan to do something like that in Bahay Nakpil when Paeng gets back from Germany in 2-3 weeks. But given the weather which rules out road trips for a while, siguro we can EB for that purpose.

Jak en poy na lang kami as who gets to be the teacher from hell :D

Haha. Sir Bong, wala rin akong masyadong alam. Basic lang talaga. I haven't even held a dedicated flash. If Ms. S. were to hear that I would be talking about photography now, she'll die. Hehe. But true, when you already know how to use a camera (aperture, shutter speed, light meter), composition and technique naturally comes through experimentation. Naalala ko dati. I went to Luneta just to look for "lines and patterns". I stayed there from 9am to 6pm! Hehe. Napagkamalan nga ako na "Mamang Photographer"... twice. :Grin:

If ever magkakaroon ng EB Seminar, papaturo ako sa yo.

Wow... hope that pushes through! I'll surely be there!:)

@francis: if ever the seminar pushes through, papaturo ako B&W sayo:)

B&W?

Anyone interested in shooting B&W then developing them? I have a stock of D-76 which I want to use up before it spoils...

@francis: if ever the seminar pushes through, papaturo ako B&W sayo:)

Hehe. Nakalimutan ko na yon e. Itinakwil na ako ng B&W. But still, minsan namimiss ko magshoot ng Tri-X PAN. The bad thing is, kung hindi ikaw mismo magdedevelop at mageenlarge, pangit pa rin ang lalabas. We tried it once sa Fujifilm (nandaya kami), pero no good. Halata. Pangit ang tones.

B&W?

Anyone interested in shooting B&W then developing them? I have a stock of D-76 which I want to use up before it spoils...

Talaga, Sir Bong? Kaso lang nakalimutan ko na paano magprocess. I think we need a developer, stop bath, fixer(?), right? Meron kang enlarger?

B&W?

Anyone interested in shooting B&W then developing them? I have a stock of D-76 which I want to use up before it spoils...

I want! Pero di ako pwede this weekend. :( Para naman masabi ko na nakapagdevelop ako ng film kahit isang beses sa buhay ko haha!

Yah, I would definitely looove to learn to shoot B&W!

OT: Bong, can picture city service my old Pentax Super ME?

Not this weekend either, might go hunt down those M lenses in Hidalgo (if they're still there at kung may pera...:D)

I have everything needed to develop film lang (I gave up the darkroom & stuff for printing when I moved out of my parent's house ages ago). What I do next is stick the negatives into my scanner.

@Franz...bring it. Have Mike assess it.

I am the ultimate dumdum in film. I'm too much spoiled with digital. Kaya nga paptik-pitik lang ako. Minsan kulang sa visualization which is nakakahiya because design and visualization is what I do for a living haha.

@bong: okay! have to find some space in my camera bag for that hehe...

I got nothing when it comes to film, I only used the old pentax as a point and shoot way back in school! had no idea what i was doing! haha... bahala na the pics pag pinadevelop!

Game! July 21? July 28? I guess the later the better kasi sasama malamang si Paeng dito. He still has his K1000... :Grin:

can i join too? if my sched permits...

Game! July 21? July 28? I guess the later the better kasi sasama malamang si Paeng dito. He still has his K1000... :Grin:

I'm not sure kung kelan ako available sa July 21 or 22. On July 28, if I'm not able to be made "singit" to the kinabuhayan cafe EB, pwede din. :Grin:

Game! July 21? July 28? I guess the later the better kasi sasama malamang si Paeng dito. He still has his K1000... :Grin:

definitely would come! :Grin:

would it be possible to have this on the first weekend of august. hehehe

Note: 2 K1000s.. marumi lng ung isa :)

definitely would come! :Grin:

would it be possible to have this on the first weekend of august. hehehe

Note: 2 K1000s.. marumi lng ung isa :)

sali ako. kenat b lang weekends of july. AUGUST 4!

paeng, you want to make it THREE K1000s? i have one i don't use.:)

sali ako. kenat b lang weekends of july. AUGUST 4!

paeng, you want to make it THREE K1000s? i have one i don't use.:)

Are you giving to me? for free? y not!! hahahha :D

@Bong, spare me a roll of your BW, i'll bring to germany.. pwd?

Are you giving to me? for free? y not!! hahahha :D

@Bong, spare me a roll of your BW, i'll bring to germany.. pwd?

3xK1000=K3000? :D

I don't have stock of film; what I have is film developer (D-76). Sa Germany ka na lang bumili ng film; if B&W look for Ilford HP5 (actually a British brand). If you want to be safe (vs. airport x-ray) shoot at ISO 400 and have it processed there. If you're adventurous in all regards, shoot it at ISO 1600 and I'll push process it when you get back.

How does one shoot bouquets of flowers? I'm being commisioned to shoot for my friend's flower shop, what do I need? Will I be needing a macro lens? Flash? Lights? Klieg lights?! Help!:Scared: This will be my first payin gig so I want to do well here...:Grin:

The kit lens works very well with flower shots. Better if if have good natural lighting. You can even use reflectors to reduce high-contrast shadows. In bright light, it's very easy to have blown-out colors (I sometimes underexpose my shots and adjust to taste during PP).
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a199/NolsP/longwood77/IMGP0366red.jpg
DS + DA18-55
Good luck on the shoot!
Nols

Most likely the shoot will be held in their shop... I'm thinking of bringing a white bedsheet to have as my background? Or too dull? I have no flash save for the built in one, and have no lights as well... what can I use as reflectors? and how?

Most likely the shoot will be held in their shop... I'm thinking of bringing a white bedsheet to have as my background? Or too dull? I have no flash save for the built in one, and have no lights as well... what can I use as reflectors? and how?

You can use a simple car sunshade if you don't have the commercial photographer's reflector. As for background, depends on how the picture will be used. If want to include nice bokeh in the pic then I think it's better to work without a plain white background. Oh, and whatever you do, and don't use the built-in flash (Yuck!).
Nols

Ok! Thanks Noli!:) I'll use the car sunshade na lang hehe... I'll probably alternate between having some bokeh and a plain white background:) Thanks a lot!

How does one shoot bouquets of flowers? I'm being commisioned to shoot for my friend's flower shop, what do I need? Will I be needing a macro lens? Flash? Lights? Klieg lights?! Help!:Scared: This will be my first payin gig so I want to do well here...:Grin:

you can use a cheap slave, or use your flash (by bouncing off on the ceiling or wall - depends on what effect you want to achieve). natural light is better but if shooting inside, maraming diskarte. i have some lights available. if our skeds match, i'll be glad to help you out with your first paying gig.

kape lang ang katapat. :Grin:

joey

I was actually looking for a flash last week, but I have no idea whatsoever regarding flashes eh... how can I bounce the light off my flash?( built in lang...) Thanks Joey for the offer! Will let you know when it will be scheduled:) In the meantime, practice muna ako hehe...

I'm sooo excited na!:)

How does one shoot bouquets of flowers? I'm being commisioned to shoot for my friend's flower shop, what do I need? Will I be needing a macro lens? Flash? Lights? Klieg lights?! Help!:Scared: This will be my first payin gig so I want to do well here...:Grin:

I agree with Sir Nols. Don't use the built-in flash. If you really have to use it, you can get a small white cardboard, fold it and place it on your flash, para tilted up ang light. The best thing to do is find a window, then side lighting nalang. Dapat diffused ang light. Add a reflector on the side para malift ang shadows. Ok yung white background. Parang ok rin yung black for dramatic effect. A prime lens would be nice for creative depth of field.

@francis: the reflector on the other side of the subject if its beside the window right? hmmm... I've two primes, 50mm and 28mm... I guess I'll be using the 50mm...:)

@francis: the reflector on the other side of the subject if its beside the window right? hmmm... I've two primes, 50mm and 28mm... I guess I'll be using the 50mm...:)

Right. :) Move move mo lang yung reflector to achieve the best light. Kung natural background ang gagamitin mo, ok ang mga primes since mablublur yung background and your subject will get 3D effect. Kung white/black background, mas hindi kailangan ang mga primes, but useful parin since they are sharp. :)

@francis: noted sir francis! :) thanks! but I have to get my prime lenses cleaned first... tsk tsk... images turn out under exposed when I use my primes eh...

Check this site out. I really admire how she shoots flowers. Wicked DOF. Medyo may pagka-artsy lang nga, pero ang ganda. Makes me want a lens baby.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/60991687@N00/

Don't forget rin pala to borrow a water sprinkler. :)

Just got in...

@Franz, do you know the expected output of your client? I mean, do you know what he/she wants?

@francis: thanks again!:) the link you gave, wow! great DOF! but I think it's too artsy for my client though...

@bong: the expected output is nothing fancy, just some pics for their website... but of course I want to take this opportunity to do well and experiment rather than take droll images just for the sake of taking pictures:)

@francis: thanks again!:) the link you gave, wow! great DOF! but I think it's too artsy for my client though...

@bong: the expected output is nothing fancy, just some pics for their website... but of course I want to take this opportunity to do well and experiment rather than take droll images just for the sake of taking pictures:)

Oh okay. In that case avoid drama and shallow DOF and go for a straight shot where everything is in sharp focus.

During this meeting probably we can also share our experiences with Pentax lenses,manual,macro,wide,perpective, bellows,portraits etc.