While we all like to share our photos, lets try and put more "meat" behind the thread. For those who post photos it would be highly appreciated if you:

1) Tell us your thought process behind the photo and
2) Provide technical details if possible

And aren't we all tired of the "Nice shot bro" responses? If you plan to respond to a photo, please:

1) Explain why you liked the photo or
2) Why you don't like it

And if you want to critique on a photo:

1) Do so constructively

And if your photo gets critiqued:

1) Accept the critique positively

I've noticed that most of our threads these days have been photo sharing threads with little comments from the Thread starter and hardly any meaningful critiques other than the usual "nice shot", "nice set", "galing mo pre".

Quite frankly, its getting to be quite boring. I bet I'm not the only one who now skips Photo sharing threads because its the same everytime.

I'm hopeful we can change this.

Thanks for listening.

Thanks Nick, finally a clear and understandable way to critique a photo. I am tired reader of "nice shot pre"....

you're right there.

and providing the exif information can help other photographers capture similar shots just as effectively, or even better, in the future. for sure that i'm one of those people who've learned a lot from that.

I agree! would people admit the amount of PP done in their photos?

And that would mean, more information and tips for newbies like me...thanks!:)

I agree! would people admit the amount of PP done in their photos?

They should.

Finally Nick, there is so much blah blah's about posting and critiques. Thread gets longer just because of praises that don't mean much or no one can learn from. This will also get the poster to be aware of the settings and techniques used on each photographs. From pre-production to post processing. There is so much to learn when film was still the medium, and even greater now that it's digital. Let us all post and learn.:)

While we all like to share our photos, lets try and put more "meat" behind the thread. For those who post photos it would be highly appreciated if you:

1) Tell us your thought process behind the photo and
2) Provide technical details if possible

And aren't we all tired of the "Nice shot bro" responses? If you plan to respond to a photo, please:

1) Explain why you liked the photo or
2) Why you don't like it

And if you want to critique on a photo:

1) Do so constructively

And if your photo gets critiqued:

1) Accept the critique positively

I've noticed that most of our threads these days have been photo sharing threads with little comments from the Thread starter and hardly any meaningful critiques other than the usual "nice shot", "nice set", "galing mo pre".

Quite frankly, its getting to be quite boring. I bet I'm not the only one who now skips Photo sharing threads because its the same everytime.

I'm hopeful we can change this.

Thanks for listening.

good job nick!:Grin: (pun intended)

I'd love to hear about post production techniques from the thread starter like Ricky Ladia mentioned. And there are lots and lots more of people like Donna Samonte who want to learn from others.

To let you know, we get plenty of walk-ins at our office from readers who want to pick up back issues or to subscribe. When I talk to them, I realize that most of them are not members in the forum. However, they visit all the time and like to read the threads started by active members. Their number reason they go to DPP is to learn from others. That's why I hope thread starters here start giving more feedback about their photos and readers provide deeper critiques.

Since this is DPP, if a shot is PP'd (more than simple levels/curves and cropping), it would be helpful if experienced PS users suggest tips/comments on post processing as well.

I find it strange sometimes when some critique forums require you to post EXIF even if your image is PP'd extensively.

Just as we've realized that PP is part of the digital workflow, maybe we can include that as well.

I totally agree with you Nick.

There are even threads where posters just post their photos and don't even bother to comment on previously shared photos posted on the same thread. (too many post/poster/posted words).

Now, we shall start sensible critiques... thanks for the reminder.

totally agree with u nick. at least we can share and exchange different techniques, styles and 'secrets' on pp-d photos. :) thanks!

I agree nick, to be honest when i post my images, i really want to read more feedback, like how i could improve my images, so that eventually I learn more from others which is why i became a member here to learn and at the same time give some of my own ideas to help others.

nice shots pre, i totally agree with you nick ;)
(just joking hehehe)

peace...

sensible suggestion. let's do it then :)

Could be easier said than done, like Darell I am one who appreciates comments on my photos both the good and the ugly, but I don't feel I have earned any right to comment on others work (unless solicited) even if I have a strong opinion on a particular photo.

Nick I do however subscribe to your suggestion because I will be one of the many who will benefit from the information if photographers actually share their thought process and technical details...

good job nick!:Grin: (pun intended)

Yes. This will be very useful especially to us "newbies". Criticism do make us grow. I hope everyone will follow.

Could be easier said than done, like Darell I am one who appreciates comments on my photos both the good and the ugly, but I don't feel I have earned any right to comment on others work (unless solicited) even if I have a strong opinion on a particular photo.

Nick I do however subscribe to your suggestion because I will be one of the many who will benefit from the information if photographers actually share their thought process and technical details...

Nick,

Your points are valid. But corrollary to bernie_ledesma' comments, may I suggest that those who have had experience in making good critiques to write up their methodology and have it posted at DPP (FAQ, maybe?)? It does not have to be a comprehensive guide, but something like "Making a Photo Critique for Dummies". This can then serve as a common guide to those who would want to expound on their "nice shots!!!" comments.

While we all like to share our photos, lets try and put more "meat" behind the thread. ....

Just a clarification:

Does this mean that anyone who posts photos should be prepared for a C&C, even if a C&C is not solicited?

Not that I have a problem with that (as a receipient or maker of a critique) -- I just want to avoid a situation where an "unsolicited C&C" gets a retort.

PS: I tried to edit my earlier post on the subject. Please merge this with

Just a clarification:

Does this mean that anyone who posts photos should be prepared for a C&C, even if a C&C is not solicited?

Not that I have a problem with that (as a receipient or maker of a critique) -- I just want to avoid a situation where an "unsolicited C&C" gets a retort.

PS: I tried to edit my earlier post on the subject. Please merge this with

I believe that anyone who posts in the NEW forum called "Critique Gallery" should expect a CnC since he/she posted there.

While we all like to share our photos, lets try and put more "meat" behind the thread. For those who post photos it would be highly appreciated if you:

1) Tell us your thought process behind the photo and
2) Provide technical details if possible

And aren't we all tired of the "Nice shot bro" responses? If you plan to respond to a photo, please:

1) Explain why you liked the photo or
2) Why you don't like it

And if you want to critique on a photo:

1) Do so constructively

And if your photo gets critiqued:

1) Accept the critique positively

I've noticed that most of our threads these days have been photo sharing threads with little comments from the Thread starter and hardly any meaningful critiques other than the usual "nice shot", "nice set", "galing mo pre".

Quite frankly, its getting to be quite boring. I bet I'm not the only one who now skips Photo sharing threads because its the same everytime.

I'm hopeful we can change this.

Thanks for listening.

:)I 100% agree Sir.Nick... we would love to know more about the photo Details/EXIF etc.. so we can learned some of the settings too. normally it happens that we encountered same or similar subject on different places.

Thanks alot!:)

I think only a number of members here have the "right" to make comments or criticize a photo. Newbies, like me, would be confined to comments like "nice shot" and "galeng pare".

I suggest that DPP require its members to indicate (i) camera settings, (ii) lens used, (iii) how the shot was taken and (iv) PPs made, if any, BEFORE posting photos in the gallery and threads. This way, it would be a learning experience for everyone viewing the photos.

To each his own. A photo may look good for me but crap for others. Only an expert has an eye to spot a "good" photo.

Cheers! :)

Members should make it a habit to post the EXIF data. Newbies should avoid just posting "nice shot, thanks for sharing, ang galing mo master". At the end of the day, DPP is a learning online community, not a worship board.

I think only a number of members here have the "right" to make comments or criticize a photo. Newbies, like me, would be confined to comments like "nice shot" and "galeng pare".


I think anyone is qualified to give comments. In real life most of the viewers of our images are not technically or academically qualified either but all opinions are still valid.

everybody has his/her right to give comments.. either be it positive or negative. even photographers working in one company, i believe, has his own comments to the works of his coworkers.

in my opinion, even if you are a "newbie", should not be confined to a "nice shot" comment received from others because you need to grow from being a newbie. just my opinion. you should learn something from here and there. and part of the reason i think you signed up here in DPP is to learn and grow.

I think anyone is qualified to give comments. In real life most of the viewers of our images are not technically or academically qualified either but all opinions are still valid.

I agree with you Mitz that anyone is qualified to give comments and opinions are always valid. BTW I love your photos here, especially your set taken at UP rainy day thread. I can only praise your work but for a newbie like me to comment/criticize your photo would not add any value to an expert/master like you (Trans: baka mainsulto ka pa). No pun intended.:)

Cheers!

everybody has his/her right to give comments.. either be it positive or negative. even photographers working in one company, i believe, has his own comments to the works of his coworkers.

in my opinion, even if you are a "newbie", should not be confined to a "nice shot" comment received from others because you need to grow from being a newbie. just my opinion. you should learn something from here and there. and part of the reason i think you signed up here in DPP is to learn and grow.

thanks princess. yeah, everytime i logged in DPP i learn something new. i learned photoshop just by reading the threads and links :D thanks guys :):):)

everybody has his/her right to give comments.. either be it positive or negative. even photographers working in one company, i believe, has his own comments to the works of his coworkers.

in my opinion, even if you are a "newbie", should not be confined to a "nice shot" comment received from others because you need to grow from being a newbie. just my opinion. you should learn something from here and there. and part of the reason i think you signed up here in DPP is to learn and grow.

I agree with Cez. That's consistent with the reason why I was suggesting that we come up with guides on making critiques. This could help in:
-- honing one's photographic talents and critique-crafting skills
-- encouraging newbies to post pics and C&Cs

I remember having done C&Cs during my Humanities 101 days. The lessons learned ther should not be very different from making C&Cs. The problem is -- that was a long time ago and my memory is now filing me:(:(:(

I agree with you Mitz that anyone is qualified to give comments and opinions are always valid. BTW I love your photos here, especially your set taken at UP rainy day thread. I can only praise your work but for a newbie like me to comment/criticize your photo would not add any value to an expert/master like you (Trans: baka mainsulto ka pa). No pun intended.:)

Cheers!

hey there alexis.. i don't think that he would get offended.. i myself take all the criticisms in a positive manner. at the end of the day.. i would think more on how to improve rather than nagging about a negative comment. :) so bring it on! hahah :D

welcome to DPP! :)

hey there alexis.. i don't think that he would get offended.. i myself take all the criticisms in a positive manner. at the end of the day.. i would think more on how to improve rather than nagging about a negative comment. :) so bring it on! hahah :D

:)

Yeah Alexis, bring it on!. You never know until you tried it.

Btw, Thanks for the kind words. But i'd like to know why you like them especially when some people don't :D.

Just a clarification:

Does this mean that anyone who posts photos should be prepared for a C&C, even if a C&C is not solicited?

Not that I have a problem with that (as a receipient or maker of a critique) -- I just want to avoid a situation where an "unsolicited C&C" gets a retort.

PS: I tried to edit my earlier post on the subject. Please merge this with

this is a photography forum therefore it's all about the art and techniques of photography...if you post a photo regardless on what thread be prepared for c&c...

i firmly believe dpp forum was made to elevate the appreciation of how to take good photographs not for it to become a photo sharing site site multiply

i firmly believe dpp forum was made to elevate the appreciation of how to take good photographs not for it to become a photo sharing site site multiply

Good point

newbie question? how long doest it take for a photo to be approved after posting it? is there a no of post for you to have before posting a pic? TIA

OT: @ Patrick, i think this is the wrong thread to ask this. anyways. to answer your questions, the admins are the only ones who can approve photos.. it depends.. just be patient, they'll be approved in no time. :)

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I have a suggestion to the mods and admins:

Is it possible to have a rule, at the very least in the Basic Photography section, for all pictures to include the settings for the shot like the opening and shutter speed and at least an overview of the workflow / or adjustments made with PS or Lightroom? So that newbie like me can learn something from the pros, and mayeven for pros to suggest better approaches to shots made by us.

I made a comment before, I was very careful not to offend anybody even the model but it was still deleted. It was disheartening to feel neglected when I have revised it several times. But theres no way other way to say it lightly but just say it as it was. The model while sexy was not very curvaceous, so I offered additional options like longer dress with a belt or sort of, to enhance the waistline. But to no avail, it was deleted anyway. Photographers at the top sometimes cant take constructive criticism.
Please move this to where it appropriately belongs.
Thank u.