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anton montilla
06-28-2006, 01:07 PM
I noticed that there is a constant battle between Canon and Nikon. I would like to to know what made you choose your brand? Is it bec you think that yours is better than the other brand? Is it due to convenience for borrowing gear(lens,etc) from a fellow hobbyist? Pls humor me... I'm very Curious :)

I think it's safe to say that Nikon had a "nich" over Canon during the film days. Now, what is the difference?

Users of other brands of DSLR please... your comments too :D

Cesar Parroco
06-28-2006, 01:15 PM
I borrowed a Nikon FM2 from a friend and bought an FM10. Progressed from Nikon FM10 to F80. I already have a couple of lenses with a Nikon Mount when I move to D70 and now I'm using D200. Nikon I believe has a more affordable range of lenses than Canon.

caloy_samson
06-28-2006, 01:22 PM
I noticed that there is a constant battle between Canon and Nikon. I would like to to know what made you choose your brand? Is it bec you think that yours is better than the other brand? Is it due to convenience for borrowing gear(lens,etc) from a fellow hobbyist? Pls humor me... I'm very Curious :)

I think it's safe to say that Nikon had a "nich" over Canon during the film days. Now, what is the difference?

Users of other brands of DSLR please... your comments too :D

Ahhh erm humor you?...ok i'll tell the truth, I got a Nikon cuz it is a babe magnet:Grin:

dave_deluria
06-28-2006, 01:23 PM
Ooohh I love Flamebait!

Nikon I believe has a more affordable range of lenses than Canon.

Like what? I did the research and all NEW Nikkor glass was pricier than it's Canon counterpart with similar focal and aperture ranges (for zooms that I was interested in).

You can do a quick check at YG Billy's World of Photography (http://www.ygdragon.net/index.php?page=photo/cameraprice.htm) website and compare prices of lenses in HK.

As for me, never had a Nikon. I used Canons since High School and it hasn't let me down so I didn't feel the need to switch.

I got a Nikon cuz it is a babe magnet

Sorry... the red ring on my lenses say otherwise. Toldya this thread is flamebait.

Rolando Avecilla
06-28-2006, 01:26 PM
I have been a Nikon user since Elementary. FM2. :D

rosalie_gomez
06-28-2006, 02:09 PM
I really prefer the way Nikon feels when I'm holding it. Feels more solid. :) My bro-in-law once said (comparing a D70 and 350D), the D70 feels like a European car while the 350D feels like a Japanese car. Oh, by the way, the D70 was mine while he owned the 350D. :Grin:

Jeff Vergara
06-28-2006, 02:16 PM
I really prefer the way Nikon feels when I'm holding it. Feels more solid. :) My bro-in-law once said (comparing a D70 and 350D), the D70 feels like a European car while the 350D feels like a Japanese car. Oh, by the way, the D70 was mine while he owned the 350D. :Grin:
i had the same reason of why i shifted from canon to nikon. i like the handling and bulkiness of it, plus the muffled *klak* sound.

also, canon parts and stocks here are less (in uae) compared to nikon.

anton montilla
06-28-2006, 02:59 PM
Thanks a lot for the replies, but pls keep them coming :) I would like to point out the fruits of each side.

I really hope that this thread is will not turn out in "flames"??

I'm seeking for advantages of both sides, and later consider the disadvantages.

caloy_samson
06-28-2006, 03:15 PM
Thanks a lot for the replies, but pls keep them coming :) I would like to point out the fruits of each side.

I really hope that this thread is will not turn out in "flames"??

I'm seeking for advantages of both sides, and later consider the disadvantages.

You got any Dslr models from both manufacturers in your mind? budget?

@Dave - I will simply walk away from the computer if I see a real "flame bait".

dindin_lagdameo
06-28-2006, 03:19 PM
Nikon vs. Canon... PC vs. Mac... Ateneo vs. La Salle...

All are good but bottomline is, it will all depends on your preference. No need for flame baits... we can all live harmoniously. At the end of the day, it's the images that we have created that counts.

Din2 (Nikon-user to the end... but never a Canon-hater)

caloy_samson
06-28-2006, 03:35 PM
Nikon vs. Canon... PC vs. Mac... Ateneo vs. La Salle...

All are good but bottomline is, it will all depends on your preference. No need for flame baits... we can all live harmoniously. At the end of the day, it's the images that we have created that counts.

Din2 (Nikon-user to the end... but never a Canon-hater)

I use a Canon for my underwater pix:Grin: See? harmonious relationship.

anton montilla
06-28-2006, 03:45 PM
@Caloy... Still dreaming as of today to own at least 1 soon. Been using a D100(my bros) every now and then since last yr. Budget? Of course will cross the bridge when I get there. Been also keeping my self busy with an Aires(50 yr old) Range Finder for the mean time... Hopefully I can move on very soon!

A friend has been encouraging me to get a Canon. I'm still biased with a Nikon since this is so far the only DSLR I've ever used. I'v only gone far as holding on to a 20D.

I'm still puzzled as to what would really suit me...

dindin_lagdameo
06-28-2006, 03:50 PM
@ anton

do you like the handling of the d100? if you do, then you know the brand you'll get. :-)

it's really nice to see you here.

din2

caloy_samson
06-28-2006, 04:02 PM
@ anton

do you like the handling of the d100? if you do, then you know the brand you'll get. :-)


din2

Lol..nice Dindin:)

anton montilla
06-28-2006, 04:05 PM
I do like how it feels but I don't have any basis of comparison yet.

@Dindin... is your maiden name Co?

Jeff Vergara
06-28-2006, 04:18 PM
you can check dpreview.com for specs and comparisons of different dslr cameras but just like other reviews, i don't usually take their word for it.

i suggest you borrow first or try a sample model in a store, etc. and see if it fits the right camera for you. good luck!

JonDexterTan
06-28-2006, 05:28 PM
I am a 4/3 user (olympus E-1, my fiancee is an E-500 user). Used to be a Nikon D70s user. Also tried my friend's Canon 20D a few times. Both the 20D and the D70s are great! I went back to Olympus so that we can share our gear. Any regrets on moving from Nikon? aside from not having too much people to share 'gear-talk' with, none really. Performance wise, nothing biased, but I am loving the E-1 more each day (though I missed my VR lens), especially it's laid out external controls. love it that the E-1 meters very well with old OM manual lenses. a very understated camera I must add. I also bought an FS-2 for the E-1 which gives it's viewfinder a D70s like GRID view (thanks Din!) which is indespensible to me.

what more can I say other than I'm glad I'm not caught in the middle of anything. hehehe! as we say it here in Davao, pahipi lang :).

don't hate the playah, hate the game! :D

dindin_lagdameo
06-28-2006, 06:43 PM
@anton

yepyep, tata's friend...

levi lacandula
06-28-2006, 07:28 PM
Im a proud Nikon D70s and Olympus E10 user.:Grin:

Why Nikon? Better handling and feel.

Why Oly? My first dSLR and very nice glass:Grin:

Louie Aguinaldo
06-28-2006, 10:07 PM
Was a former Nikon user for the longest time.
Then in the early 90's my uncle gave me a Canon.
Funny, I was building up both systems.
I started leaning towards Canon first of all because of the technological advances. And a lot of little reasons
Such as, the focusing was faster and silent.
I remember at CCP the Nikon was quite noisy and causing stares from some of the nearby audience. So used the Canon instead and it was silent.
Later on I was really sold on the IS lenses, a really big advantage for shooting concerts which I used to do quite a lot of before.
Then later on - Canon support. There is an actual Canon service center here and I have always experienced excellent service. Unfortunately, I couldn't say the same for Nikon here in the Philippines.
At the point I went digital I chose a Canon because of the D30 which was the cheapest DSLR at that time, no other camera came close to its price. That factor coupled with confidence in Canon made the deal for me.
I actually first bought digital to serve only as a preview instead of using polaroids. Specially since there was no polaroid backs for 35mm.
At the point that I was confident with digital being a viable professional medium, that's when I parted ways with my Nikon system and went Canon full time.

For now, I believe the biggest reason to stick to Canon locally is service. Unfortunately, many lament the lack of satisfactory after sales service of Nikon. Canon, having its very own service center here is most reassuring. Plus, the major advantage of their lending service units to photographers who have their units repaired (as long as there are service units available) is a deal maker.

Lastly, before someone points out that I have other reasons to be biased, I admit that I am also with Canon because I am one of their endorsers. But of course they did get me precisely because I was already a Canon user.

In reality Mabuhay silang pareho. I strongly support both of them. For as long as there is strong competition between them, it will be good for all of us photographers! Better quality products at competitive prices!!!

anton montilla
06-29-2006, 09:31 AM
@anton

yepyep, tata's friend...


I knew it!:D How have you been? D100 that I'v been using is Manot's:)

anton montilla
06-29-2006, 09:40 AM
@Levi... What exectky do you mean when you say very nice glass for your Olym?

@Louie... Very well said! You do have a point there. Thank you for your inputs!

Charles Penacerrada
06-29-2006, 10:06 AM
im a D60 user. will just use D70 because of its x-sync speed for tom's shoot.. im not sure if ill like it better.


is it true that D70 has 300dpi on large file mode?

levi lacandula
06-29-2006, 11:16 AM
@Levi... What exectky do you mean when you say very nice glass for your Oly?

@ anton

The lens of my Oly is very sharp and fast (f/2). Thats why I cant let go of it (even if the E10 is kinda slow compared to the newer dSLRs in the market today):Grin:

anton montilla
06-29-2006, 11:20 AM
aaahhhhh:Grin: Hmmmm... Thanks Levi!

jason_lopez
06-29-2006, 06:16 PM
there's a new player on DSLR Sony alpha... kinda like the specs... Canon user here...

Kieron Tan
06-29-2006, 09:06 PM
Canon user here. I just love my Mark II N and nothing beats my 5d on ISO 3200. :P

Pilar Tuason
06-29-2006, 11:06 PM
I have been a Canon user since my film days. Why did I choose Canon? I read that the glass is sharper. I have no regrets in choosing Canon from day 1. The body, lenses and service has never let me down. I am sure Nikon, Sony, Olympus, are all great cameras. Just read the profile of the particular model (or budget) you have in mind, try the actual camera and see which one "feels right" in your hands. Also check out the lenses that you would like to own 1 day, and see if those will eventually fit your budget as well. ( can't just have 1 lens:D ) Good luck!!

Kieron Tan
06-30-2006, 07:43 AM
camera is just a tool, so peace everyone. ;-)

rosalie_gomez
06-30-2006, 08:36 AM
@anton

You can't go wrong with Canon or Nikon but since your bro has a D100, maybe you should get a Nikon so you can borrow lenses from him? :Grin:

OT
I know your bro, shot World Cup and SEA Games show jumping with him last year. :)

anton montilla
06-30-2006, 09:07 AM
@anton

You can't go wrong with Canon or Nikon but since your bro has a D100, maybe you should get a Nikon so you can borrow lenses from him? :Grin:

OT
I know your bro, shot World Cup and SEA Games show jumping with him last year. :)

Oh... Ok :) I'm sure I will remember your face when I see you. I was there too. I was incharge of the landscaping of plants(by each jump) inside the arena :)

kengo
07-08-2006, 12:27 AM
Was a Canon film user for the longest time, then they changed mount, so deciding I still had a decent lens collection and still had clear eyesight to do manual focus, so I stuck with it, but when my camera had to go in for repairs.........whew! What a sad experience. Took local service center 2 months to tell me, they can't repair my camera because parts are no longer available, knowing well that I can't use my lenses on newer cameras, decided to sell my whole system cheap, just to know that the buyer was able to get parts from the U.S. for $50 to make my camera work :Angry:

With such bad service, and abandoning lens mounts (making old very good lens, unusable without an adapter to the newer camera), I decided to switch.

With the Nikon I finally understood what they meant as better ergonomics, My first Nikon was a D1x took me a day to familiarize my self with the controls and another day to know how to press the buttons without looking at it. Just last year I had a chance to demo a 1DMKII for a whole week, using it daily, and till the day I returned it I never got the hang of the buttons and had to rely on the owners manual everytime I used it for the whole week. Though images was very good, I missed quite a number of photos because I could't set it as quick as a Nikon. Add to that, getting gems of old MF nikkor lenses at a bargain with full compatibility with my Nikon DSLR's.

As for Nikon's service, my experience has been satisfactory, also got a loaner unit when my camera went into service. So from my experience Nikon's service though not the best, is still better than my experience with Canon.

Matthew Lizares
07-08-2006, 08:12 AM
nikon was really strong in the early years of slrs...
i would say canon gained its strength when it shifted to its new mount or the eos system (autofocus system)

it gained more strength when it invented its own CMOS sensor for their dslrs

what do you get one of the first autofocus system and one of the first cmos system in one canon system

Louieescobar
07-08-2006, 10:13 AM
I first bought a Nikon D50 last year dec, and was really impressed with the sharpness and quality of the pics, then bought D70s after 2months, again i was impressed. Then bought a used D100, it's really nice. I'm just an amateur photographer but got hooked with Nikon DSLR's. It's fun to use and affordable.

Still looking forward to try D200 and D2Xs.

anton montilla
07-08-2006, 10:24 AM
Thanks guys! Inputs noted :)

Darryl Ong
07-08-2006, 10:32 AM
i believe nikon exceeds canon on film dslr's... i tried nikon fm10 for my photography class and it's really great (especially b&w... i really think film cameras do justiceon this kind of pics ):D

mario_bes
07-08-2006, 08:34 PM
Had a Nikon N8008 and a Nikon N6006 in my film days..then i had a Nikon Coolpix 5700 as my first digital camera, which was an awesome camera during its prime.

When i was ready to buy my first digital SLR, there was no stock of Nikon D70 in Quiapo!

Available was the Canon 20d, it looked inviting so i said what the heck..I got the kit lens, a 28-135mm IS and a 420EX flash to go with it..So far im happy with my purchase.

My brother has a Nikon D70 and sometimes i get to edit his pics..One thing i noticed the Nikon does not take too much post processing than the Canon(sharpness, etc)..though his D70 had problems with white balance while my Canon had white balance spot on when set on Auto..

When he uses his flash, an SB80DX i think..Nakakainggit! His exposures are spot on, while i was looking kawawa in my 420EX..Had it calibrated by canon bec of output problems..

Anyway thats my experience with the 2 brands..Each has its own strengths and weaknesses..:) I still have both brands with me..My lesson learned is whatever you got, learn how to operate it well and youll be happy with it :) like they say its the pictures that count..

James Rosca
07-08-2006, 11:32 PM
Was introduce to Canon DSLR by my couisin. Since, both of them use it. It was natural for me to get the Canon Set since I get to borrow their lens as well. Hee hee. Have tried a Nikon D60 find it kindo of heavy compared to my present 350D

alvin_lao
07-09-2006, 01:07 AM
3 months ago, I bought my 20D second-hand from my cousin, who had just upgraded to a 30D. Prior to this, I had owned a Canon EOS 100 (film SLR) and P&S cameras. I had one Nikon P&S also, but it didn't last long - had battery issues.

With the 20D, I thought having my old lenses (EF mount) from the EOS 100 were a bonus, until I compared their output to the 50mm f/1.8 II lens. Ang layo. I'm now considering selling them. Still using the flash though, it's still ok even if it's 10 years old. Though I just found out my old RC-1 remote control does not work with the 20D. Anyone with an EOS 300D want to buy it? :D

It is nice being able to test out my cousin's lenses while I was (and still am!) trying to decide which lenses to get. I have already eliminated a couple of lenses from my wish list after trying his out. Someone mentioned earlier for you to get a Nikon so that you can borrow your bros lenses, that's pretty good advice.

Eric Dino
07-09-2006, 01:26 AM
Hi Guys,

First of all, both brands are good but each has specific capabilities based on one's needs and preference. I'll reply based on my technical research findings both here and abroad.

Nikon - Produces sharper images, good skin tone rendition and color management.
Handling is user friendly and more stable in shooting. No need for raw file converters in opening files. I bought a Nikon due to my demanding clients. Well, Customer Service although not as prompt overseas is quite satisfactory compared to Canon Service Center. It's not true that Nikon was only good during the Film-days, I suggest whomever commented this should know that the new generation of CCD sensors are better than CMOS even Full-Frame.

Canon - Produces softer images and more aestically appealing to customers. More parts, lens and accessories available locally. Service is not efficient, only good in promotions and sponsorship of events.

Vince_Villamin
07-18-2006, 11:43 AM
I started out with a Canon 300D with kit lens and 550EX and had an old EF 28-80 F/3.5-5.6 USM, it was good great IQ but missed a lot of shots due to the slow AF of the kit lens esp. in low light. Bought a Sigma 28-70 f/2.8 got better AF speeds and great bokeh but as with before the Flash was still very much hit and miss (using FEC of +1 1/3 and +2 most of the time) outdoor exposure was very good. Bought a D70 when the 20D was not available as we needed a 2nd DSLR to cover events. Opened up a whole new world to me. Great kit lens, sharper than the sigma in all aspects, better color and contrast as well and AF speed second to none even in low light conditions. Also got an SB-800 and exposures with and without flash are always well balanced. When comparing the two cameras, color (AWB)is a little bit better on the 300D (at 300% viewing) and at ISO 800 it has lower noise levels but that can be cured in PS of course, but I kept missing shots on the 300D that was so easy for the Nikon to handle. When it came time to upgrade, I chose to stick with one system and sell the Canon and got a D200 plus a bunch of Nikon glass. I'm happy with my decision. I really love how quick and accurate the Nikon's are, and the custom features are also very helpful and a real plus for creativity, not to mention the CLS. So there, that's my experience with both brands.

BTW, I also own a Canon G3 and Pro 1 for casual shooting.

anton montilla
07-18-2006, 01:14 PM
Thank you guys :Grin: Appreciate it ;)

christian panganiban
07-18-2006, 01:34 PM
why do i love this subject? kasi the canon-nikon thing is like politics, showbiz and religion all in one. what i mean is walang katapusan na discussion and at the end walang tama. just get one that suits you. yung bang pasok sa kamay mo o di kaya swak sa mata. i started shooting with a yashieca, then with nikon and then a mamiya and now i shoot with canon. what does that make me? doesnt matter.

just remember the saying " its not the arrow, its the indian".


... but remember the cowboys won the battle. so may i say it again "its not the rifle, its the cowboy" hiyaah!

anton montilla
07-18-2006, 03:52 PM
why do i love this subject? kasi the canon-nikon thing is like politics, showbiz and religion all in one. what i mean is walang katapusan na discussion and at the end walang tama. just get one that suits you. yung bang pasok sa kamay mo o di kaya swak sa mata. i started shooting with a yashieca, then with nikon and then a mamiya and now i shoot with canon. what does that make me? doesnt matter.

just remember the saying " its not the arrow, its the indian".


... but remember the cowboys won the battle. so may i say it again "its not the rifle, its the cowboy" hiyaah!


Good point Christian :Grin:

joe_galian
07-19-2006, 12:45 AM
Cameras do not matter...only our "grey matter" does!

I own a Nikon D70, and use the Canon MarkII 1Ds and Fujifilm S3 in an advertising studio as a freelancer. Both are just tools for me. Tools don't take photos by themselves.

In my experience here in the Philippines, the Nikonians are generally persecuted by (majority) Canonites. In my opinion Canon cameras are more expensive yet they have a slight edge in IS lense technology. Nikons are better built and cheaper. And both systems I use.

Hey, that's my general opinion. Cheers!

dindin_lagdameo
07-19-2006, 04:48 AM
@joe

amen to that!!!

karlo_inigo_lucas
08-21-2006, 11:17 AM
i use a Nikon...better built quality...:Grin:

jose_deluna
08-21-2006, 12:39 PM
I had been an avid Minolta user since the 80's. Main selling points to me are: user friendly, excellent glass (sharpest optics I have used), perfected TTL Flash Exposures on-camera and wireless mode (still cannot be duplicated by any other brand), and of course image quality produced. In the DSLR arena, my 7D is still the perfect tool for me. With the 7D, I don't need to worry about buying VR or IS lenses since all my lenses are already stabilized via Anti-Shake built-in the body. Fortunately, I already have an excellent collection of Minolta lenses since my film days. Just imagine the powers of a 28mm f2, 35mm f1.4, 50mm f1.4, 85mm f1.4, 200mm f2.8, 300mm f2.8 all Minolta prime G-class fixed focal lenses... and did I say all are stabilized (VR or IS in your case)? With Minolta's decission to quit the photo-industry, nothing is really lost, it even got better with Sony providing Carl Zeiss lenses. Don't be fooled with any battle among brands... look at the actual specs... do hands-on comparisons... have a feel... compare the results. Talk to professional photographers and not to camera-hobbyists-collectors. I'd be more inclined to join in a battle among lenses... always remember that optics will ultimately affect image quality.

Do I use other brands? Of course I do. Minolta is my personal gear. At work, we are regularly provided by vendors (Nikon & Canon, or should I say Canon & Nikon) from D100 to D2Xs... from D60 to Mark-II. My personal preferences... the Nikon D2Xs and Canon EOS-1Ds Mark-II... both are battle-tested, can survive extreme climates here in Saudi Arabia (bone-chilling winter and desert summer heat). And yes, they both suffer from sensor dusts from time to time.

To those who are saying Nikon has better built-quality... try using a Canon 1Ds or a 5D; same thing with Canon users... try using a Nikon D2Xs or D2Hs.

They are all great cameras... put a creative eye behind them and they will definitely capture and produce excellent images.

JonDexterTan
08-21-2006, 01:16 PM
hobbyist here and an Olympus user. cameras are cameras. I just love my E-1 being a cheapo tank-like all-weather dslr and a perfect fit in my hands. I recently raced for the roof one rainy day for the fear of soaking my bag and not my E-1. I've tried a lot of cameras (though haven't held a KM dslr yet) and they are all good. Being a person that loves the outdoors, the E-1 is great for me. I have been a Nikon D70s and VR lens user and looking to get a Canon for it's high ISO performance soon. Brands? watdat? ;) don't hate the playah, hate the game bruddah! hehe! enjoy tayo lahat basta may pang shoot! :D

paul chiongson
08-21-2006, 02:47 PM
Made the digital switch when Canon came out with the 10D, during that time, in most reviews it was considered the better camera for its class. Bought one and fell in love with it, been using Canon ever since.

I like to think cameras, like people have their own quirks, its a matter of matching the right person to the right camera.