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Terence Sysunbin 01-12-2007, 10:18 PM To avoid misunderstandings and misinterpretaions I removed all the captions here are the pictures I just want to share
http://i5.pbase.com/o6/44/586744/1/72961300.xYRjOryn.IMG_6810.jpg
http://i5.pbase.com/o6/44/586744/1/72961305.IQOj2HSH.IMG_6910.jpg
http://i5.pbase.com/o6/44/586744/1/72961306.xG3pbVwk.IMG_6926.jpg
Terence Sysunbin 01-12-2007, 10:20 PM http://i5.pbase.com/o6/44/586744/1/72961304.drUqOzoq.IMG_6903.jpg
Terence Sysunbin 01-12-2007, 10:25 PM Electrical layout:
http://i5.pbase.com/o6/44/586744/1/72961028.bZTbNw8y.IMG_7000.jpg
Insulation
Paper - I think we have underestimated the use of paper did you know that you can use paper to insulate cables and wires that supply electricity to your whole house?
http://i5.pbase.com/o6/44/586744/1/72961029.Siz3CyxO.IMG_7002.jpg
Support
Coco Lumber - Scientific studies show that if you have a roof area of lets say more or less 500 square meters and you plan to fabricate trusses to support the whole roof you can support it with a piece of deteriorated coco lumber
http://i5.pbase.com/o6/44/586744/1/72961026.FDaVAnkX.IMG_6993.jpg
Terence Sysunbin 01-12-2007, 10:29 PM For more pictures please visit http://www.pbase.com/terence/brian_uy
Architect Brian Uy nice work I know you're here if you see this thread please do drop by the link so you can see what happened. have a nice day!
Earl Gonzalez 01-12-2007, 10:51 PM @ Terence - Fafi... Nakakapanggigil yan ah... You know where to reach me...
Terence Sysunbin 01-13-2007, 08:29 AM Ok lang yan pre weather weather lang yan
Edmar Lagarico 01-13-2007, 08:59 AM @ Terence.
Floor @ .45m, depends on the design your Architect should consider the location, the history of the place kung up to what level and water pag tumaas.
Ceiling metal furring i use the same design, some space it at .60 X 1.20, but should have a 1,20m x 1.20 hanger. depends on the manufacturer's specs.
Gypsum board yeah a chalk board good for insulation-heat & sound. Maybe it's your specification the specs.
Electrical flexible maybe its in the materials specs. I think the flexible use here is a good one coz of the color try to press it should be hard enough. In the picture mali ang execution should be visited again by design electrical Engineer for approval.
Lastly, that's why i never get any construction work, I do design & supervision. getting the construction for me it's a conflict of interest. Next time know the details of specs & estimate prior to construction. Have a firm for almost 10 years now & my headache are the contructors who changes my specs during constrcution. It's not the tipid part for a constructor not follwing the design they bid for the specs & materials the y should use it.
In fareness to your architect sit down and go back to specs & materials what really happen.
Peter Jaena 01-13-2007, 09:29 AM question lang po, is this at a typhoon aftermath?
Terence Sysunbin 01-13-2007, 10:03 AM @ Terence.
Floor @ .45m, depends on the design your Architect should consider the location, the history of the place kung up to what level and water pag tumaas.
We specified 0.5 blue print says .45 which was fair enough but it wasnt executed that way
Ceiling metal furring i use the same design, some space it at .60 X 1.20, but should have a 1,20m x 1.20 hanger. depends on the manufacturer's specs.
ok so why did it collapse?
Gypsum board yeah a chalk board good for insulation-heat & sound. Maybe it's your specification the specs.
Nope
Electrical flexible maybe its in the materials specs. I think the flexible use here is a good one coz of the color try to press it should be hard enough. In the picture mali ang execution should be visited again by design electrical Engineer for approval.
Electrical was done twice, the first electrician couldnt energize the building and this was done by the second one
Lastly, that's why i never get any construction work, I do design & supervision. getting the construction for me it's a conflict of interest. Next time know the details of specs & estimate prior to construction. Have a firm for almost 10 years now & my headache are the contructors who changes my specs during constrcution. It's not the tipid part for a constructor not follwing the design they bid for the specs & materials the y should use it.
In fareness to your architect sit down and go back to specs & materials what really happen.
With all due respect I'm not saying that all architects are the same the point is I made a mistake by trusting a friend thats all if this thread will cause trouble and issued might as well delete it im just sharing my experience so that others wont commit the same mistake I did. Thanks for your insights have a great day!
Best Regards
Terence Sysunbin 01-13-2007, 10:04 AM question lang po, is this at a typhoon aftermath?
Yes sir it is the building took more than a year to accomplish with poor workmanship and almost no supervision
MikeDougan 01-13-2007, 12:21 PM You got right royaly f***ed by your mate.
I just got ripped of to the tune of a million or so peso's by my builder!
Ahh the Philippines, honesty, integrity and the catholic church!
Mike
Edmar Lagarico 01-13-2007, 12:59 PM @clarence, no sir, know how you feel.
i remember the thread re Murdering the photog industry, same thing with us. Give him/her the construction & the design is for free. This is a complete lie. There's no such thing free architecture, for sure they will include it during construction.
Architects should be on the owner side. (design, supervision) 15 year liability
engineers should be the builder. ( architects - report to owner if the plans are followed according to plans specs) 5 year liability
Architects can not practice as designer & contractor in the same project.
leni llapitan 01-13-2007, 02:50 PM @ Terrence - yours sir is not an isolated incident. If there are those photographers murdering the industry, we too have those doing the same in the construction industry. There are several Contrators who "package" the design and visa-versa. This is acceptable practice nowadays...of course with pros and cons.....The disadvantage with this scenario is that instead of the Architect protecting the interest of the Owner/Client, he is now confronted with a conflict of interest. This is were a Construction Manager can help (to over-see that the plans and specifications were followed to the tee). The pro side of it is yes, the Owner does get some fees reduced.
I am sure you and your Architect/Contractor can resolve this matter in a sensible manner. He is, after all still responsible for any failures in the building....If it was proven that the failure was due to the non-conformance with the plans and specifications then your Contractor should repair all works without cost to you. But I ask you to please have the damage inspected....even by a third party to make it unbiased if you wish....
@ Mike - 1 million in additional costs???? ....did you have your Architect check on the additional claims before approving them?
Best Regards to All
Terence Sysunbin 01-15-2007, 02:24 AM Hello Leni,
Thanks for your reply we already talked to the architect and he told my dad that it wasnt his fault he was blaming it on nature so we did what we had to do got an engineer to evaluate what happened and another engineer to fix everything so far everything is back to normal.
This is the photojournalism and documentary thread if you dont like what you read you can do two things...
1. Notify the moderator and they can discuss things with me
2. Dont read my thread
Again I would like to clarify a few things as I've said in one of my earlier posts dont get offeneded with my posts because Im just sharing the things that happened to me and I'm not implying that all architects are the same why cant "YOU" get it into that thick hide of yours?
louie_lao 01-15-2007, 02:40 AM Glad things are getting better, Terence!
Terence Sysunbin 01-15-2007, 07:52 AM Glad things are getting better, Terence!
So far so good louie, cheers mate!
Terence Sysunbin 01-15-2007, 08:02 AM You got right royaly f***ed by your mate.
I just got ripped of to the tune of a million or so peso's by my builder!
Ahh the Philippines, honesty, integrity and the catholic church!
Mike
Couldn't have said it better mate!
leni llapitan 01-15-2007, 02:23 PM Again I would like to clarify a few things as I've said in one of my earlier posts dont get offeneded with my posts because Im just sharing the things that happened to me and I'm not implying that all architects are the same why cant "YOU" get it into that thick hide of yours?
yes you are right, you didn't imply this to be true to all architects....no offense was taken...just posted some opinions too....
i hope everything is going smoothly with the repairs!!!
btw, your photos did document the incident well....
MikeDougan 01-15-2007, 07:51 PM @ Mike - 1 million in additional costs???? ....did you have your Architect check on the additional claims before approving them?
Best Regards to All
The Architect was the first one to rip me off. I caught him out before the construction started and released him/her.
The builder/engineer were so bad at managing there business the 1.3 million extra was all acounted for in waste. Poor planning, poor managment etc...
but I trusted the guy, it was well into the job before I realised that despite his claims that he was an honest christian, devoted to his church etc.. (you know the picture!) he was far from telling me the truth.
Anyhow, the money is spent (he has a new Innova) and I fixed all the faults myself. I'm happy it's all over!
I love the Philippines but I hate the attitude of "it's OK, your a foreigner, you have plenty of money!"
Mike
Terence Sysunbin 01-15-2007, 08:00 PM yes you are right, you didn't imply this to be true to all architects....no offense was taken...just posted some opinions too....
i hope everything is going smoothly with the repairs!!!
btw, your photos did document the incident well....
Thanks leni thanks for your insights repairs were finished last december just in the nick of time it took me months of sleepless nights coz I was the one who supervised the repairs everything went well afterwards thanks to two good friends of mine who did everything without even asking a single centavo from me they were here everyday to help me out just for one simple reason "coz were friends" Architect Macky Estrada and Engineer Raymond Moldez.
Cheers!
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