View Full Version : EFs17-55 f/2.8ISUSM or EF16-35f2.8L
dan de jesus 06-25-2006, 09:24 AM Hello!!! I would like to ask for a help to all of you pro out there who have tested the two lens from Canon EFs 17-55 f2.8 ISUSM and EF 16-35 f2.8L USM. Photography is my hobby and I like shooting interior architecture. I'm planning to acquire a new wide lens that will satisfy my hobby. Thinking (wishful) of creating a book in the future for all the photographs that will be acquired so a good lens is a must. My current gear is EOS 30D, EF24-85 f3.5-4.5USM, EF50 f/1.8II, EF 70-200 f/4L. I cannot decide which lens among the two (17-55 or 16-35) to buy so your inputs will be highly appreciated. TIA...Cheers!
nino_carandang 06-25-2006, 10:30 AM How much of a price difference between the two lenses?
dave_deluria 06-25-2006, 10:54 AM I've tried both of them and for a 1.6x crop factor camera... 16mm or 17mm will do the trick most of the time. It only becomes a problem as more real-estate gets smaller and smaller (like condominiums, hotel rooms and beach cottages) and you won't be able to zoom out with your feet since you are confined in a closed space.
I'm curious that fast lenses are a major factor in your choices. Although a fast lens is always a good thing, for your specific application it isn't really as vital since good interior shots are always staged using a tripod and small apertures (F5.6 & smaller) to keep as much of the interior details in focus.
If price isn't an issue, the 16-35 should serve you very well into the future until you go full frame.
Just consider the following;
A EF 17-40 is a lot cheaper since F2.8 aperture isn't necessary for interior shots.
A EFS 17-55 will just mean you can also use it for other purposes (like low-light handheld situations).
A EFS 10-22 is the widest zoom lens available and can handle the most cramped spaces (like walk-in closets or bathrooms).
Other choices are just more specialized (like Tilt Shift lenses) which will do an even better job.
Good Luck.
ditoy_aguila 06-25-2006, 11:09 AM Dave is right, if you plan to shoot interiors best to use a tripod and high aperture value so the 17-40L (around P37T) will do. The 16-35L is the best available 2.8 wide angle zoom but at around double the price of the 17-40L makes you think twice. But the shorter focal length limits its capability for everyday use.
I suggest the 17-55 f/2.8 with IS (around P54,500) which has a farther reach and is a very good lens. It actually has very good reviews all over the web and doubles as a walk-around lens for your 30D. The images you can capture with this lens will be comparable with the L lenses and print-worthy for your picture book.
ANGELO SANTOS 06-25-2006, 04:54 PM hi. im having the same dilemma as dave. couldn't decide which to buy. i like the 16-35L to complete my f/2.8 collection (24-70L & 70-200L ISU) and that it's heavy-duty and future-proof (read: full frame). i like the EF-S 17-55 ISU because it will complement my 350D & 30D very well and the IS feature not found in the 16-35L, which i really like because i like to shoot in low light.
ditoy, when you say that price (54k), is it from Quiapo? i was offered a price of 79k (75k, discounted just for me) from a reputable store (not in Quiapo mind you). i want to know the real prices of these two from Quiapo...
alvin_lao 06-25-2006, 05:58 PM Baka sa US source ni ditoy :D US$1,179 at B&H.
hi. im having the same dilemma as dave. couldn't decide which to buy. i like the 16-35L to complete my f/2.8 collection (24-70L & 70-200L ISU) and that it's heavy-duty and future-proof (read: full frame). i like the EF-S 17-55 ISU because it will complement my 350D & 30D very well and the IS feature not found in the 16-35L, which i really like because i like to shoot in low light.
ditoy, when you say that price (54k), is it from Quiapo? i was offered a price of 79k (75k, discounted just for me) from a reputable store (not in Quiapo mind you). i want to know the real prices of these two from Quiapo...
ditoy_aguila 06-25-2006, 08:50 PM Last I asked the 16-35 was P70T in quiapo, the 17-55 IS P54,500 price was quoted by Henry's quiapo as promo to Pipho when it first arrived. Best guys, call them tomorrow henrys 733-7723.
dan de jesus 06-25-2006, 11:01 PM Thanks Guys for the inputs. The price difference for the two lens is about 20K++. Not really a fast lens is the major factor in deciding which lens to get. It is just that I really dont know what to get. Dave and Ditoy thanks for the inputs, it was well explained. The only problem I have in mind if I'll opted for the 17-55 is not an L lens. You know, I have a mentality that if its not an L lens, it is not a good lens. Well, thats me. But if you will say that this lens is comparable to an L, I think I will stick with this lens. But as Dave said that I dont need a fast 2.8 lens which most of the times I'll be using 5.6, maybe I'll get the 17-40 f/4L. Whew, so hard to decide....anyway, could you please tell me what are the other apllication of the 2.8 fast lens aside from shooting hand held on a low light condition? Thank you very much....
ditoy_aguila 06-26-2006, 01:56 AM IS will enable you to handhold a bit longer, faster apertures for faster shutter speeds beneficial to indoor photography with or without flash. I am guessing this will be your most used lens so it will be perfect for everyday photography, portraits, events and gatherings.
Reviews said that it didn't get the L designation for its built and lack of weather-sealing, but optically up to par with the Ls.
dan de jesus 06-26-2006, 06:16 PM IS will enable you to handhold a bit longer, faster apertures for faster shutter speeds beneficial to indoor photography with or without flash. I am guessing this will be your most used lens so it will be perfect for everyday photography, portraits, events and gatherings.
Reviews said that it didn't get the L designation for its built and lack of weather-sealing, but optically up to par with the Ls.
Well, I guess I have to shift my paradigm to be able to move on...If the EFs17-55 2.8 IS USM is optically at par with the L lens with added value like the IS...then this is the best candidate...do I need a Red Ring..well I guess not...I think it's the ouput that matter most and not the look on the outside...:) Cheers and Thanks a lot!
Ben Chan 06-26-2006, 06:37 PM if you're shooting lots of interior shots, i suggest you dont get either lens. invest nalang on the canon 10-22 USM lens and make use of the leftover cash for a very good tripod. you can even splurge on the tripod! :)
ditoy_aguila 06-26-2006, 10:54 PM Also a good read on a different forum with the same topic being discussed:
http://www.dcresource.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20675
JR Diaz 06-27-2006, 03:05 AM I've been doing some research and the vignetting of the 17-55 2.8 IS is it's known weakness. Since I have an APS-C DSLR, the EF-S 17-55 would be practical to get vs. the 16-35L. It is known to be sharper than the 16-35 L and the price - less expensive. BTW, I'd take Ben C's advice for those interior shots.
dan de jesus 06-27-2006, 11:24 AM if you're shooting lots of interior shots, i suggest you dont get either lens. invest nalang on the canon 10-22 USM lens and make use of the leftover cash for a very good tripod. you can even splurge on the tripod! :)
If that's the case, I can save a lot of cash because there is no need to splurge on the tripod... presently I'm using the Slik PRO 814 Carbon Fiber w/ 3way Panhead ball which is pretty stable...:)
Thanks Ben C, Ditoy Aguila and JR Diaz........ Cheers!!
jc_fajardo 07-08-2006, 08:53 PM for reference...
LENS PERFORMANCE SURVEY at Photozone.de (http://www.photozone.de/active/survey/querylenstxt.jsp?filter=%22brand='Canon%20EF'%20OR %20brand='Sigma%20AF'%20OR%20brand='Tamron%20AF'%2 0or%20brand='Tokina%20AF'%20or%20brand='Vivitar%20 AF'%22)
:)
Edward Camua 07-10-2006, 07:42 PM I've been doing some research and the vignetting of the 17-55 2.8 IS is it's known weakness. Since I have an APS-C DSLR, the EF-S 17-55 would be practical to get vs. the 16-35L. It is known to be sharper than the 16-35 L and the price - less expensive. BTW, I'd take Ben C's advice for those interior shots.
Hi,
I think you should worry more about the flare than the vignetting. I have to order my lens hood from B&H as it didnt come with the lens. But the lens is really sharp. I had mine for two weeks now and am very happy with it. Quite expensive though.
BTW, I'm glad I found this forum. I'm a filo here in Sydney and just enjoying reading all your posts.
Cheers,
moncastillo 07-15-2006, 02:52 PM how does 17-55mm 2.8 is usm 24-70 2.8?
Glen Arreglo 09-18-2007, 01:53 PM Hello!!! I would like to ask for a help to all of you pro out there who have tested the two lens from Canon EFs 17-55 f2.8 ISUSM and EF 16-35 f2.8L USM. Photography is my hobby and I like shooting interior architecture. I'm planning to acquire a new wide lens that will satisfy my hobby. Thinking (wishful) of creating a book in the future for all the photographs that will be acquired so a good lens is a must. My current gear is EOS 30D, EF24-85 f3.5-4.5USM, EF50 f/1.8II, EF 70-200 f/4L. I cannot decide which lens among the two (17-55 or 16-35) to buy so your inputs will be highly appreciated. TIA...Cheers!
for interior shots the wider the better plus a good tripod, canon 10-22 or sigma 10-20 just watch out for distortions...
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