Friends,
I have just recently seen a canon 300d (silver) body being sold for 18,360 php (includes 1gb compact flash card). Now, I do have an old canon camera, rebel 2000-300 eos, film. My old film camera has a sigma 28-200mm lens.

My question will be, will it be a smart move for me to acquire the 300d body?
Will the sigma lens fit nicely on the 300d body?
How much is the 300D on hidalgo? (if someone knows)

Apologies for the newbie questions =)

Thank you

Friends,
I have just recently seen a canon 300d (silver) body being sold for 18,360 php (includes 1gb compact flash card). Now, I do have an old canon camera, rebel 2000-300 eos, film. My old film camera has a sigma 28-200mm lens.

My question will be, will it be a smart move for me to acquire the 300d body?
Will the sigma lens fit nicely on the 300d body?
How much is the 300D on hidalgo? (if someone knows)

Apologies for the newbie questions =)

Thank you

It is a smart move if you don't have higher expectations of what the camera can do. I am also assuming that the camera is in good working condition.

As for your sigma lens, if it is an eos mount, it will fit. The question is, will it work? sigma is notorious for a weak reverse engineering implementation. Old lenses "might" not work with newer bodies. Sigma lenses have other problems too with Canon (AF, etc).

I suggest you bring your lens when you buy it. If it gives you an err 91 or something like that, then it won't work. This is why I will never buy a Sigma lens if I can help it.

I suggest you hunt for a used kit lens. They usually cost about p3,000 only. That will tide you over, till you get up to steam and determine what kind of photography you want.

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You won't be able to find a 300D in Hidalgo. This has been replaced by the 350D (which is still available) and then by the 400D.
I came from the 300D and it is a very capable camera. There were, however, some limitations. You will have to download the hack firmware over the net in order to get these additional features: ISO 3200 and flash compensation.
One of the limitations is the lack of AI Servo on the 300D even with the hacked firmware. This may make it difficult for you to do panning shots.
No spot metering. You may also have a hard time finding a battery grip (if you want one) for the 300D

But for travel, studio shoots, the 300D will serve you well. While I may have changed bodies, I still keep the 300d with me.

Many thanks, Hochi and Mel for your very informative replies.

Talking to my friend earlier who is a photographer, he said that if my sigma lens has "dimples" or "sensors" or something to the effects of that, it could work. But he is not 100% sure for he does not know much about Canon. He is a Nikon user. But he said that for the body itself, it is a good buy.

I also thought about looking for a kit lens if ever my sigma lens fail. Thank you Mel for the price quote. And if, I can't find a 300D kit lens, I'll go to the second best alternative, a 350D kit lens. Thank you Hochi for the heads up.
I'll be coming home this 12th of December. I guess, I'll spend a day roaming Hidalgo =)

For sure, I'll bring my sigma lens to the shop tom.

I will post whatever happens so that this thread can be closed with a result :)

Again, salamat.

Well, I had purchased the body this morning.
All seems to be good naman. The lens is working fine and all.

The only hassle was, it seems that it is second hand. It has no box and manual but I still went for it. I guess, I could live with that.
I already grabbed a manual online, with a little google-fu

Now, reading and learning will be my next step.

Again, I would like to say thanks to Hochi and Mel for their replies :)

At that price, sir, I'd expect it to be a second hand unit... But 2nd hand or not, as long as there are no defects it's just fine :D

Question, does your sigma lens work with the cam (AF, exposure etc?)

Buy a second-hand 350D or a new 400D.

At that price, sir, I'd expect it to be a second hand unit... But 2nd hand or not, as long as there are no defects it's just fine :D

Question, does your sigma lens work with the cam (AF, exposure etc?)
I was not expecting to purchase the 300D body, na excite lang ako dahil sa price and the idea that I have a lens that would fit in.
The lens is working fine when it's working. But sometimes, it gives me an error. I checked online for the error messages and followed how to get rid of it. It goes away naman but still. Maybe I'll check Hidalgo when I go home. I am reading alot of your post about P&S camera and it does make a lot of sense. And cguro para mahimasmasan naman ako ng konti sa pag gastos =)

Buy a second-hand 350D or a new 400D.
I had my film canon only this April. It was sold to me for 150usd by a diplomat who's going to upgrade to a dslr. I was impressed by the unit and everybody said it was a good buy, so I bought it.
Being a film camera, I was not able to use it to my hearts delight. In fact, I was not able to learn.
Two months ago, I bought a Canon S3. I got it for 3500rmb, equivalent to 21,000php. I am happy with it. I was able to learn much. Happy and all, I got all the accessories it has to offer; conversion lenses, filters, hoods, adapter and even a tripod =)
I was with a friend whos going to buy the same canon I have when I saw the 300D body.
Maybe, I got all excited and bought it as well. Now, I am thinking of going to Hidalgo and purchasing a good lens.

Problema, December na, and its time to go home. Mukhang mauubos ang baon ko pag uwi pag di ko tinigilan =) Baka isangag ng misis ko mga camera ko pag nagkataon, hehehe.

How much do you think would a second hand 350 or a 400D be sold?
(suskopo, eto na naman ako, nyahahaha)

(suskopo, eto na naman ako, nyahahaha)

Tingin ka nadin prices ng bawang at sibuyas hehe... Gigisahin ka ng misis bro :D

Tingin ka nadin prices ng bawang at sibuyas hehe... Gigisahin ka ng misis bro :D
hehehe, uwian ko na lang kaya sya nyan? mas mura ang bawang at kamatis dito, at malalaki pa!
Sabayan ko na din kaya ng bili ng lason, para pagkabigay ko, sabay inom ko na din.

nyahahaha!

If you have a budget below P50k, buy a new 400D. If it is below P40k, 350D. Maybe some people out there are selling their second-hand 350Ds for less than P30k.

How much do you think would a second hand 350 or a 400D be sold?
(suskopo, eto na naman ako, nyahahaha)

I'm still using my 300d, it's still a very capable camera.

A second hand 350d would approximately cost between 25-30k

my only problem with second hand camera is their actuations,, if i were you i would check the actuation of the camera,,, never tried a 300d camera,, but i think unless you are a serious hobbyist, it's limitations won't be a problem,,, goodluck with your shooting
cheers:)

my only problem with second hand camera is their actuations,, if i were you i would check the actuation of the camera,,, never tried a 300d camera,, but i think unless you are a serious hobbyist, it's limitations won't be a problem,,, goodluck with your shooting
cheers:)

Sir if i may ask what about the actuations and its effects to a camera?

Sir if i may ask what about the actuations and its effects to a camera?

it's like the "mileage" of the car.

shutter counts/ actuations=how many shutter clicks there was.

i believe only 1d's models have the only accurate counter in the canon dslr lineup.

you can only estimate it with 300d.same with 350d..400d.20d..30d...CMIIW

melvin - yup, glenn is right about this,, i know a 350d is good to up to 60,000 actuations,, i don't know about the 300d

glenn - i didn't know that, so the image number that register on the camera ( i use a 350d ) is not accurate for example IMG_5014 doesn't neccesarily mean i shot 5014 times? thanks for the info

i didn't know that, so the image number that register on the camera ( i use a 350d ) is not accurate for example IMG_5014 doesn't neccesarily mean i shot 5014 times? thanks for the info

Press the info button when viewing your images on 350D, there is a number on the upper-right corner which indicates the total exposures made.

may BG-E1 extra ako :) baka kailanganin mo

melvin - yup, glenn is right about this,, i know a 350d is good to up to 60,000 actuations,, i don't know about the 300d


so does this mean if the camera has reached its maximum actuations the image quailty would deteriorate?

i am still using a 300d. it is still a simple thing of beauty. my friend who has done a lot of paid work uses the same body but i think he is shifting to a 30d next year. people say that it is wiser to invest on glass rather on the body.

as for sigma lenses, i have 2, the 10-20 and the 24-70 and i am not planning to buy another one. i am happy with them but nothing beats canon lenses. especially the reaLLy nice ones.

Fellow 300D user here too. I've gotten the urge to upgrade bodies many times over, but decided to invest the money in lenses instead, especially since the 300D still works fine.

just keep on shooting first. then when you start getting bored with what you see, change subjects. if that doesn't help, maybe u need new glass. just remember that u should be the master of what u have. im starting to learn this now...but im still getting some new glass. hehehe. :)

so does this mean if the camera has reached its maximum actuations the image quailty would deteriorate?

Another name for actuations is the no of times your shutter fires. Your CCD sensor will probably last a lifetime. In the past, they were rated at around 200,000 hours. Mind you, you only trip your shutter, say 1/125 or 1/15 sec. That's too short to shorten the life of your sensor.

The actuations is for the mechanical shutter. A 300d will give you 50-60k on average. A user at dpreview, Daniella, I believe was able to hit 90k before the shutter died. But my friend's 300d died at 63k. He paid around P6k to have it replaced. Voila! -- a new camera!

Sometimes, the shutter dies slowly. Sometimes quickly. Quickly means, dead. No more pictures. Slowly, means sometimes you can see the blade in the pictures you take. Sometimes, you hear some jarring sounds. It's never the same.

If you ask me, I wouldn't worry about the life of the shutter. When I sold my 300d, I told the buyer, that I had about 29-30k shutter actuations. And I use very slow shutter speeds. I rarely go above 1/40. I noticed those who shot with high shutter speeds shorten the life more. Maybe because of the inertia and speed involved.

For sure, 15-20k seems an ok price to pay, especially if it comes with a kit lens. At worst, you will spend P6k to have the shutter assy replaced. When that happens, you basically have a new camera!

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The 300D is a very capable camera. I may have swithced bodies but I still have my 300D with me.

Let's put it this way, I attended a workshop once and the assistant of this certain pro cheked my camera (then a 300D) and he said it's exactly the same as the one being used by his boss (silver body, grip and all). Now, this guy is a pro and his works have graced all the major publications in Manila. He did not choose to upgrade to a 350D or 30D because he is just bidding his time for a 5D.

So, a reasonably priced 300D, and in good condition, should be considered as a worthy investment.

Another name for actuations is the no of times your shutter fires. Your CCD sensor will probably last a lifetime. In the past, they were rated at around 200,000 hours. Mind you, you only trip your shutter, say 1/125 or 1/15 sec. That's too short to shorten the life of your sensor.

The actuations is for the mechanical shutter. A 300d will give you 50-60k on average. A user at dpreview, Daniella, I believe was able to hit 90k before the shutter died. But my friend's 300d died at 63k. He paid around P6k to have it replaced. Voila! -- a new camera!

Sometimes, the shutter dies slowly. Sometimes quickly. Quickly means, dead. No more pictures. Slowly, means sometimes you can see the blade in the pictures you take. Sometimes, you hear some jarring sounds. It's never the same.

If you ask me, I wouldn't worry about the life of the shutter. When I sold my 300d, I told the buyer, that I had about 29-30k shutter actuations. And I use very slow shutter speeds. I rarely go above 1/40. I noticed those who shot with high shutter speeds shorten the life more. Maybe because of the inertia and speed involved.

For sure, 15-20k seems an ok price to pay, especially if it comes with a kit lens. At worst, you will spend P6k to have the shutter assy replaced. When that happens, you basically have a new camera!

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thank you sir.. now im enlightened.. :) :Grin: :D

where did u see that price is that cam still available?

Mario: Try searching in other local photography forums, buy and sell etc... Most 300Ds are priced under 20K these days (most won't sell upgraded lenses with it but usually includes the kit lens).

yup tnx that wud be helpful:)

I know of 350D body only units being sold for 23k, which is only 5k away from the 300D mentioned in the original posting. From what I heard, the difference, technology speaking, is miles away so you might consider this.

Joey

wow seriously?! cud u pm me d details tnx joey:)

canon eos 300d is a nice dslr, 6.3mp actually it can still fight with d70, d50, d40 of nikon, because theyre of the same MP range.. so its a great camera, i have 2, a 400d (black) and 300d (gray). i actually like handling the 300d. not too small not too light.

hi.. buhayin ko lang po ulit yung thread..
for a newbie like me is a 2nd hand 300D good buy for 15K?
Thanks.. :)

hi.. buhayin ko lang po ulit yung thread..
for a newbie like me is a 2nd hand 300D good buy for 15K?
Thanks.. :)

ok lang....complete package?

with kit lens and box & manual.. worth it? thanks..

I bought mine for almost the same price last year...everything included with 512 CF card, extra battery, and a Sunpak UV filter.

If buying a second hand at around 23k, wouldnt it be better to get a brand new one? I think a D40 costs roughly the same.

hmm.. i think i need to haggle more pa hehe.. thanks.. :D

i have a 400d but i still like the 300d especially its size for me. the noticeable difference between them is just the continous shooting speed, but the single shot results its almost the same for me, thats why i still use it as backup, photographers usually change their bodies regularly so a second body (300d) is a wise choice, rather than invest in the latest model as backup, they have the same end result good photos..

Confused if 350 or 400 :(