can we make application to DPP by invite?

DPP has become popular and i think that there are enough members to spread its popularity. DPP has become too popular that anyone can get in. And what did we get? TROLLS and unwanted posts. i've recently seen an unwanted, useless, and nowhere near to photograpy thread. i hope that by means of an invite we can control application and trace who supports or let's trolls in. phphoto was recently pestered by a 'mike' troll too... can security be tighter in this site?

another thing... is it possible to setup a marketplace section/forum for DPP?

i think making dpp as "for invitation only" website will only blocked other photographers from joining this site/forum.. newbies (like me) might be intimidated in joining the forums,, pros might not even join,,,, i understand how you feel,, but i simply don't think there's a need for this..
peace:)

i think making dpp as "for invitation only" website will only blocked other photographers from joining this site/forum.. newbies (like me) might be intimidated in joining the forums,, pros might not even join,,,, i understand how you feel,, but i simply don't think there's a need for this..
peace:)

I think the "system" to provide check and balance is in place. I remember that certain MP who annoyed a few members ... and was eventually banned from the site by the moderators. Hmmm .. i wonder if we're talking about the same guy who's now "bugging" other sites too. Besides, if there's a suspected troll and other members feel the same - the mods can easily be PMd/advised of such a creature.:)

a troll poster every now and then and posts his garbage on this site or institgates an arguement. we ban the troll. the troll changes his name and reenters this site... there must be a way out of this cycle and a better way to prevent trolls from invading this site.

how about members be able to show their works (regardless of quality) before they can join?

any ideas on how to make security here tighter?

If members have to show their "works" who will be the one that will look at their works? I dont think the admin/mods would have the time to actually view or even just cross check each and every submission. Offhand, I think its our responsibility as active forum members to keep this site free of trolls - so more like, a self regulating group. Though if you feel strongly about this really, why dont you send a PM to one of the admin/mods - they usually respond.

Alan

yes, we have the same guy in mind. 'MP'... no need for abbreviations... Mike Punzalan aka Mike Tri sa PhPhoto. he pestered that site a week or two after he got kicked from this one.

about the 'i must see your work for you to be member' i was only thinking of that as an ID. there must be way to individually and uniquley mark and indentify each member...

therat... about intimidating others... i don't mean to do that but i'd like class and professionalism to be retained in this site. isn't that what we all strive for? be brave, show your work to the wiser members and get their piece of mind.

a troll poster every now and then and posts his garbage on this site or institgates an arguement. we ban the troll. the troll changes his name and reenters this site... there must be a way out of this cycle and a better way to prevent trolls from invading this site.

An Admin or a Mod can ban via username, IP, IP's used, IP range.
Though banning by IP range can be really tricky. An admin might be banning a whole block.
But still, there are indeed ways to circumvent this.

It's just up to the troll how persistent he is :)

i think making dpp as "for invitation only" website will only blocked other photographers from joining this site/forum.. newbies (like me) might be intimidated in joining the forums,, pros might not even join,,,, i understand how you feel,, but i simply don't think there's a need for this..
peace:)

:Thinking: very much agree.

therat... about intimidating others... i don't mean to do that but i'd like class and professionalism to be retained in this site. isn't that what we all strive for? be brave, show your work to the wiser members and get their piece of mind.

yup i know you don't mean that but i think that will be the result of dpp being an invitation only site. i actually agree with alan, that we should monitor trolling activities here in this site..

i know you want these things for the better,,, better ask the admin they might agree with you:) ,,
cheers

I understand Paolo's sentiment... We also have another thread for "inappropriate" (http://www.digitalphotographer.com.ph/forum/showthread.php?t=2670) thread titles...

As a relatively new member, I welcome this development as members getting concerned and developing love for the forum.

However, my sentiment is that of "what's next?". I agree with AlanF that the board already has some sort of check and balance. We cannot blame the mods and admins if at times some members do get away with some pranks but this is part and parcel of being a "free" site. In the process of having too many rules, spontaneity might be lost and we lose the fun of being here...

just my 2 cents.

I understand Paolo's sentiment... We also have another thread for "inappropriate" (http://www.digitalphotographer.com.ph/forum/showthread.php?t=2670) thread titles...

As a relatively new member, I welcome this development as members getting concerned and developing love for the forum.

However, my sentiment is that of "what's next?". I agree with AlanF that the board already has some sort of check and balance. We cannot blame the mods and admins if at times some members do get away with some pranks but this is part and parcel of being a "free" site. In the process of having too many rules, spontaneity might be lost and we lose the fun of being here...

just my 2 cents.

With regards to "getting away", we've managed to tone down some of them. As soon as the Admin and the mods get online, they immediately monitor the threads to try see if the content and the title is pretty much aligned with each other. There are times, that a spammer or troll gets into the site, but we immediately cater to them. We try not to rain on your parade in some of the threads. We intervene only as needed, such as personal attacks between members. As Raymund has pointed out, we don't want to lose the fun. As for DPP being an "invite only", I'll let Nick comment on that.

Also, thanks for the support and the growing love for the Forum. Your ideas and suggestions will be most helpful in improving our online photography community.

as long as the mods do a great job and the trolls are kept at bay, i guess letting them in now and kicking them when they pollute this place is viable. thanks mods!
i remember in phphoto, the trespassing mike tri united all users regardless of age, race, social status, and brand of camera owned. there were some (like me) who tried to rationally explain and sympathize with the bastard only to be backstabbed by him.

(now where did that thread of that nude video go? i still havent seen the video... :D jaskidding!)

as long as the mods do a great job and the trolls are kept at bay, i guess letting them in now and kicking them when they pollute this place is viable. thanks mods!
i remember in phphoto, the trespassing mike tri united all users regardless of age, race, social status, and brand of camera owned. there were some (like me) who tried to rationally explain and sympathize with the bastard only to be backstabbed by him.

(now where did that thread of that nude video go? i still havent seen the video... :D jaskidding!)

If there's any thread, post that violates the rules and regulations that we haven't dealth with, feel free to PM any of us, and report the thread/post. With regards to the spam thread regarding nude videos, that was taken out as soon as we came in.

about the 'i must see your work for you to be member' i was only thinking of that as an ID. there must be way to individually and uniquley mark and indentify each member...

therat... about intimidating others... i don't mean to do that but i'd like class and professionalism to be retained in this site. isn't that what we all strive for? be brave, show your work to the wiser members and get their piece of mind.

ok but how about the absolute newbie who's just starting out... without anything to show for it yet? is the forum going to be 'off limits' to them... until they have the 'experience' and 'work' already?

i don't have anything against this *if* this is what this board is all about...

however....

i don't believe this is what DPP is all about. i believe that DPP is all about promoting and enhancing photography as a profession and a hobby. it should not discourage nor dissuade anyone from photography.

if our problems are a few *rotten eggs*, i do believe the check and balance is in place... as just recently demonstrated when our favorite troll got banned.

to end, my take on this thread is... let's not dissuade anyone from joining the forum by way of work/experience pre-requisite. remember, we all started out as newbies and have learned a lot from forumers willing to take the time to teach and guide us. let the forum welcome everyone... however, as members let us not fail in our *obligation* of forever being vigilant against anything that would disgrace our beloved forum.

that's my take on the matter, without prejudice to anyone. peace! :)

to end, my take on this thread is... let's not dissuade anyone from joining the forum by way of work/experience pre-requisite. remember, we all started out as newbies and have learned a lot from forumers willing to take the time to teach and guide us. let the forum welcome everyone... however, as members let us not fail in our *obligation* of forever being vigilant against anything that would disgrace our beloved forum.

Well said. This is indeed the spirit of this forum, as I'm sure a lot of other members will agree.

I agree with amboy and tj parpan...

I think there is no sure way to prevent trolls from coming. Mike P, or anyone else like him - can always register again and again under different names. It will be extremely difficult for the DPP mods to catch him/her/it befor he/she/it can do some damage.
The mods have been active enough to act on such matters, but the mods can't do it themselves. We must do our part and help the mods from time to time.

and besides, just because someone is a troll doesn't mean they can't take great photos and vice versa....

limiting forum access (completely through invites) defeats the purpose of having an interactive forum where DPP can grow upon.

Drop the idea... :) It'll just be an effective billboard that dares: "Crack me! Try it!!"

And mostly those who oblige with breaking into such securities, often brings waves of attacks... etc. etc.