I have acquired Di622 flash gun for my Canon 400D just recently in HK.

I set the Di622 to TTL mode and my Canon to Manual Mode.

On low light scenes, I am getting dark pictures of which I assume that the Di622 should flash a bit stronger to compensate for the low light. I noticed during Auto Focus in my viewfinder that the Flash Exposure is always set at -2. I completely turned off the light source, but still the setting is not being increased and still at -2. I used the Test Flash on both cases above but still the flash exposure is not being automatically increased.
There is no issue if Di622 is manually set. Is there anything I missed out for TTL setup? Should the Flash Exposure be increased automatically in the first place? In the Menu, Flash Exposure is set to 0 but during capture it's on -2.

Please help.

We're you able to test this before you got it? What's your shutter speed when you used it in TTL mode?

I was researching via the internet this is what I found:

Per specifications: The Nissin Di622 is supposed to be compatible with the Canon 400d.
Per instuction manual: the camera can synchronize with compact, non-Canon flash units at 1/200 sec. or slower.My hunch is that you're using a faster shutter speed than the flash synch speed, or there's an incompaitibility with the TTL mode (which contradicts number 1).

how much kuha mo sa flash?

I tried Full Auto on no light source, which means shutter speed should be adjusted automatically to it slowest, right? In anycase, I 'll try again later, I'm sure I have missed out something here, being Noob. thanks.

augustine, got it for 7118php.

I tried Full Auto on no light source, which means shutter speed should be adjusted automatically to it slowest, right? In anycase, I 'll try again later, I'm sure I have missed out something here, being Noob. thanks.

augustine, got it for 7118php.

In your first post, you said "I set the Di622 to TTL mode and my Canon to Manual Mode". How can the shutter speed be set automatically? When your flash is on TTL mode, it should be adjusting to your camera settings.

can you pls post sample pics....could help....

In your first post, you said "I set the Di622 to TTL mode and my Canon to Manual Mode". How can the shutter speed be set automatically? When your flash is on TTL mode, it should be adjusting to your camera settings.

Actually, I tried both setting Full Auto and Manual.


In any case, succeeding tests proved that TTL is working. Also, I just mistakenly thought that the meter below the viewfinder is the flash exposure, but its not.

thanks for all who responded.

Rinaldi... try this...

In any shooting mode, press the star (*) button, prior to taking the shot. This will produce a more balanced lighting with your flash (Nissin's Ramen noodles... este Nissin Di622). That Di622 can also do wireless remote function... can be triggered by the 400D's built-in flash.

Rinaldi... try this...

In any shooting mode, press the star (*) button, prior to taking the shot. This will produce a more balanced lighting with your flash (Nissin's Ramen noodles... este Nissin Di622). That Di622 can also do wireless remote function... can be triggered by the 400D's built-in flash.


oh yeah, tried the remote flash feature. works sweet :)

i'll try the AE lock for backlit subjects. thanks.

I have this Nissin's Ramen too..

Is it true? I never try wireless remote function of this flash, Thanx for the info

I don't have the Di622, but I use the Sigma EF 500 DG Super and with this flash, TTL mode is different from ETTL. For my Canon 400D, I use ETTL, but you need to be in Auto or P mode to use this (obviously, won't work on wireless mode). ETTL employs a pre-flash to calculate the needed flash compensation.

oh yeah, tried the remote flash feature. works sweet :)

i'll try the AE lock for backlit subjects. thanks.

Do you have some test shots to share? I am considering getting one soon. By remote flash, did you mean you can use it off cam and being triggered by the built in flash? Does it still use TTL even with this setup?

Sorry for the many questions...I'm a newbie too.

Thanks.

First off, i hope i didnt post this in the wrong thread. Im using a 350D naman eh haha :p

I have also used the search function and saw 2-3 threads regarding the flash, i posted a reply, but sadly no one replied. So im posting it here. And sana may magreply :D

Any thoughts regarding this flash? Can you compare it to the 430EX or the 580EX? (or is it better?) Im really considering this one because of the price but i know thats not the only thing you must think about when buying camera equipment.

Is the Nissin Speedlite Di622 good? can you recommend me other brands with almost the same price range? (like the sigma for example?) Any sample pics? :)
big thanks in advance!!



i really need a reply ASAP :)

hi there gilly,

found this in google, hope this helps.
http://photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00O3rW

really not sure about that flash.. read the link, it's quite helpful.. comparing it with 430EX.

thanks thanks thanks for the reply!! am reading it right now :)

thanks again ms. young :)

Hi Guys,

I purchased a Nissin speedlite about a month ago out of total impulsiveness and in wanting to step up the quality of my photos. Using it as an on camera flash work great but off camera its a real pain. I know that Nissin cannot be triggered via RF and can only be triggered "optically" via pop-up flash (commander mode). Im not sure if im the only one experiencing this or i got a defective unit.Your 2 centavos will highly be appreciated.

could you be more specific on what the problem is?

So what' the problem? Yes, the Di622 can only be triggered as slave flash and not even by infrared trigger. If you want to trigger it via infrared trigger, get the Nissin Di466 as it's more sensitive.

I use those two flashes and they do their purpose for me.

Is your flash still not working even when you try trigerring optically? Maybe you forgot to put it on slave mode?

the nissin can't be triggered via RF?

The Di622 won't work with radio trigger. Last time we tested at unsman (hidalgo).

Just this morning, my friend brought his Di622 for me to try because i was planning to buy one for my Canon Powershot SX10is - since it's what i can afford and since it says in Nissin's website that it'll work.

It does not work! ... fires in AUTO (and other Scenes) but not in M, Av nor Tv!
Never fires if i set the flash to manual.
Never fires if i set it to slave.

We tried me firing my SX10is and my friend firing his 20D alternately and the Nissin as slave ... it fires on his flash and not on mine! ... OPTICAL!? it should've fired on either camera!?

hmmmm

you might just want to use a TTL cord. it stretches up to 5 feet. no triggering needed :)

It specifically says that it can only be triggered by a flash in ttl mode. I'm really not sure what the problem is but i'm guessing you are getting frustrated that you can't get creative lighting effects off cam? Here's a tip that might help with this; set your flash comp to -3 so that almost all the light would come from your off cam flash and not from your built in trying to expose the shot correctly.

Do you have some test shots to share? I am considering getting one soon. By remote flash, did you mean you can use it off cam and being triggered by the built in flash? Does it still use TTL even with this setup?

Sorry for the many questions...I'm a newbie too.

Thanks.

Yes iff you want to use it off camera. The Di622 has a special photo sensor built-in. Use the camera's built in flash, place one or more Di622 flash units away from the camera. The sensor circuitry of Di622 is compatible only with the latest pre-flash TTL system offered by Canon or Nikon

does this flash work the same way as nikon's commander/slave mode wherein TTL functions are maintained by the slave flash? or it only works by optical triggering?

does this flash work the same way as nikon's commander/slave mode wherein TTL functions are maintained by the slave flash? or it only works by optical triggering?

From what I have read so far in this forum, the Nissin works on optical triggering and is not compatible with Nikon CLS nor can it be triggered remotely using Nikon's infrared technology. The Nikon CLS uses infrared to communicate with the main flash and the slaves. The main and slaves respond to changes in parameters set in the camera. In other words, the Nikon system communicates while the Nissin relies only on optical input from the main flash to trigger it. All the settings like power is adjusted manually. Though it is claimed that Nissin Di622 is compatible with Nikon iTTL system when used "on board" but is a "stand alone" when used off camera except when it is linked with an extension cord connected to the hot shoe and the Nissin.

To the gurus: I picked up my comments above from all your valuable advice and explanations. I hope I have been a conscientious student of yours. Please correct me if there are inaccuracies to my statemnet. I am learning a lot here. Thank you all.

I recently took delivery of a Nissin Di622. Very impressed with the quality of the unit. What puzzles me is the slave function. It does'nt work when I set the camera flash to manual. My intention was to reduce the power of the built in flash so as not to influence the final exposure and just use it to trigger the Nissin. Since I don't think this unit communicates to the camera, as in Nikon's CLS, since the D40 does not support commander mode, I think the Nissin needs the pre flash in iTTL mode to arm and be triggered by the main flash. At any rate the Nissin works great. With it's features it's a bargain at PHP 6.5K. I'm worried about the auto zoom drive mechanism. It's a bit noisy and plastic sounding. A great product from Filters Exchange of Pipho.

I recently took delivery of a Nissin Di622. Very impressed with the quality of the unit. What puzzles me is the slave function. It does'nt work when I set the camera flash to manual. My intention was to reduce the power of the built in flash so as not to influence the final exposure and just use it to trigger the Nissin. Since I don't think this unit communicates with the camera, as in Nikon's CLS, since the D40 does not support commander mode, I think the Nissin needs the pre flash in iTTL mode to arm and be triggered by the main flash. At any rate the Nissin works great. With it's features it's a bargain at PHP 6.5K. I'm worried about the auto zoom drive mechanism. It's a bit noisy and plastic sounding. A great product from Filters Exchange of Pipho.

I recently took delivery of a Nissin Di622. Very impressed with the quality of the unit. What puzzles me is the slave function. It does'nt work when I set the camera flash to manual. My intention was to reduce the power of the built in flash so as not to influence the final exposure and just use it to trigger the Nissin. Since I don't think this unit communicates to the camera, as in Nikon's CLS, since the D40 does not support commander mode, I think the Nissin needs the pre flash in iTTL mode to arm and be triggered by the main flash. At any rate the Nissin works great. With it's features it's a bargain at PHP 6.5K. I'm worried about the auto zoom drive mechanism. It's a bit noisy and plastic sounding. A great product from Filters Exchange of Pipho.


Same concern with my di466 regarding the zoom drive mechanism. Hope it doesnt give out too early.:) But i'm loving the nissin so far.

I recently took delivery of a Nissin Di622. Very impressed with the quality of the unit. What puzzles me is the slave function. It does'nt work when I set the camera flash to manual. My intention was to reduce the power of the built in flash so as not to influence the final exposure and just use it to trigger the Nissin. Since I don't think this unit communicates to the camera, as in Nikon's CLS, since the D40 does not support commander mode, I think the Nissin needs the pre flash in iTTL mode to arm and be triggered by the main flash. At any rate the Nissin works great. With it's features it's a bargain at PHP 6.5K. I'm worried about the auto zoom drive mechanism. It's a bit noisy and plastic sounding. A great product from Filters Exchange of Pipho.

Gilly- if i were you, i will save my money for now and buy 430 ex ii cost P13K at hildalgo.

Why?

You wont regret it and no compatible worries.
Why settle for less when you can wait, save then buy the best flash for you.
If you want to re-sell it madali kesa sa nissin flash.


Think about it.

Joel G.

Gilly- if i were you, i will save my money for now and buy 430 ex ii cost P13K at hildalgo.

Why?

You wont regret it and no compatible worries.
Why settle for less when you can wait, save then buy the best flash for you.
If you want to re-sell it madali kesa sa nissin flash.


Think about it.

Joel G.


i agree with joel. get 430ex ii

we had problems with the nissin flash, the slave mode doesn't seem to work, also, it doesn't fire when we use RF triggers with it...

Go with 430 EX II (~Php 13,000) or 580 EX II (~Php 19,500)

try sigma 530 DG super. it has a slave function too and multi flash function. it's a substitute to canon's 580ex II. 11900 php at JT. :D

Same concern with my di466 regarding the zoom drive mechanism. Hope it doesnt give out too early.:) But i'm loving the nissin so far.

It sounds like those cheap digital clocks. Anyway it doe'nst matter if it locks to whatever zoom setting. If it does, I'll disable it and set the zoom at a compromise 60 mm. I am still trying to find out why the built in flash has to be set to iTTL. My analysis is that it needs two flashes to arm then trigger. It probably uses the pre flash to arm and the final flash to trigger it. I don't know but it seems that way because I could'nt trigger it with another external flash.

I have acquired Di622 flash gun for my Canon 400D just recently in HK.

I set the Di622 to TTL mode and my Canon to Manual Mode.

OK... That means your flash will AUTOMATICALLY expose for the subject. Your camera's aperture/shutter/iso is controlling the AMBIENT.

On low light scenes, I am getting dark pictures of which I assume that the Di622 should flash a bit stronger to compensate for the low light. I noticed during Auto Focus in my viewfinder that the Flash Exposure is always set at -2. I completely turned off the light source, but still the setting is not being increased and still at -2. I used the Test Flash on both cases above but still the flash exposure is not being automatically increased.

Have you checked if you've moved your flash exposure compensation to -2 to begin with?


There is no issue if Di622 is manually set. Is there anything I missed out for TTL setup? Should the Flash Exposure be increased automatically in the first place? In the Menu, Flash Exposure is set to 0 but during capture it's on -2.

Please help.


Check your FEC. I suspect you altered your setting in cam.

For me, it's better to buy canon flash to maximize the features of e-ttl and to prevent future incompatibility. However, if you plan to strobe, I suggest you to get first the 580ex II, that's my mistake in buying first the 430ex II.

What do you mean "if you plan to strobe"? Both 580 and 430 are strobes and both can be triggered as slaves.

Just a noob question po. I got my Nissin Di622 for my D40 just last monday and while using it I notice that flash is weak (or shall I say underexposed?) when I set it on TTL mode. Is this a defect? I also set +1 on flash compensation but still no effect. Using the flash in slave and manual mode though is OK.

Any inputs on this?

Its hard to tell if its a defect or part of the design, Nikon's TTL system is a guarded secret and thus not really handed out to people who wants to make a flash compatible to Nikon. The best 3rd party alternative can do is reverse engineer it and make approximation. Try looking for another Nissin owner and try it out to eliminate that it is indeed a defect.

Just a noob question po. I got my Nissin Di622 for my D40 just last monday and while using it I notice that flash is weak (or shall I say underexposed?) when I set it on TTL mode. Is this a defect? I also set +1 on flash compensation but still no effect. Using the flash in slave and manual mode though is OK.

Any inputs on this?

really, nikon talking to a nikon is ideal. nikon talking to a nissin? well, something is bound to be lost in translation...

Good analogy :D

Hi Francis,

Have you tried using a slave sensor attached to your Nissin Speedlite? You might want to try this out - http://www.tayhua.com/photosensor.html

You can call Ackerly Chua to confirm if this will work. Last time I spoke with him, he told me that it works but the flash needs to be set on Manual mode. Hope this helps. You can also order this from his store and can be delivered to your doorstep.

thanks for the replies, guys. Maybe I need to summon all D40 users that has this flashgun.

Also, I just tried bouncing the light at 90 vertically and it seems the flash is more powerful than just pointing directly to the subject. Hmmm...

thanks for the replies, guys. Maybe I need to summon all D40 users that has this flashgun.

Also, I just tried bouncing the light at 90 vertically and it seems the flash is more powerful than just pointing directly to the subject. Hmmm...


My brother has a Nissin Di622 in his d40. There are no problems so far. I find it as value for money since it has the same output as the sb800 with a small price tag.

Maybe there is a defect on the one you got. I assume you still have warranty in it.

Just a noob question po. I got my Nissin Di622 for my D40 just last monday and while using it I notice that flash is weak (or shall I say underexposed?) when I set it on TTL mode. Is this a defect? I also set +1 on flash compensation but still no effect. Using the flash in slave and manual mode though is OK.

Any inputs on this?
Got mine 2 weeks ago from Lehboy of filters exchange. Works fine so far. When I bought the Nissin, I never expected it to perform as well as an SB 800 or last just as long. For one thing the price range of the Nikon units is beyond my reach. Try to experiment with it some more. Did you get the version supposedly compatible with the Nikon?

You might want to check on the links below:
http://www.pinoyphotography.org/forum/index.php?topic=43722.0
http://www.pinoyphotography.org/forum/index.php?topic=26123.0
http://www.pinoyphotography.org/forum/index.php?topic=33338.0

In addition, it's advisable to use NiMh or alkaline batteries.

Hope this helps.

With my experience on Nissin speedlites, they are underexposed / not properly metered with TTL. I have the Canon version and it's exhibiting the same symptoms as yours.

Bouncing it, the flash head moves forward hence producing more light and pointing it forward, the head moves further back producing a weaker pop.

Best thing to do is just use the flash on manual mode. I'm used to shooting film before with a Canon-199a flash so it's not much of a bother.

nhguerrero <-- the flash won't fire slave in manual. it has to be on slave mode. read manual.

With my experience on Nissin speedlites, they are underexposed / not properly metered with TTL. I have the Canon version and it's exhibiting the same symptoms as yours.

Bouncing it, the flash head moves forward hence producing more light and pointing it forward, the head moves further back producing a weaker pop.

Best thing to do is just use the flash on manual mode. I'm used to shooting film before with a Canon-199a flash so it's not much of a bother.


Thanks for this input. Manual mode is really what i prefer. I am just in getting to know stage of my flashgun. Though, It would be better if I could maximize the capability of this by using TTL. Anyway, is there any manual zoom on this?

If you're still want a feature packed flash, try the Metz 48 AF-1 10k only at JT Photo. Has all the bells and whistles of the 430 EX II (except for the mount). Overall its a bang for the buck unit. It also has HSS upto 1/8000 sec. hehehe

It is also compatible with Canon's wireless flash system. :) I tried using it with a 580 EX II and it works like a charm. If you're gunning for Nissin due to budget limitations try the Metz.

Got mine 2 weeks ago from Lehboy of filters exchange. Works fine so far. When I bought the Nissin, I never expected it to perform as well as an SB 800 or last just as long. For one thing the price range of the Nikon units is beyond my reach. Try to experiment with it some more. Did you get the version supposedly compatible with the Nikon?

You might want to check on the links below:
http://www.pinoyphotography.org/forum/index.php?topic=43722.0
http://www.pinoyphotography.org/forum/index.php?topic=26123.0
http://www.pinoyphotography.org/forum/index.php?topic=33338.0

In addition, it's advisable to use NiMh or alkaline batteries.

Hope this helps.

Of course sir. I got the di622 for nikon. Also, I purhcased eneloop for my flashgun. I'll try to read this links, thanks.

really, nikon talking to a nikon is ideal. nikon talking to a nissin? well, something is bound to be lost in translation...

exactly why i went for an sb600. i was thinking of getting metz, nissin, nikon, sigma, and sunpak. i finally decided on the sb600 though it was not the least expensive to avoid any compatibility issues. it works fine and haven't had a problem with it yet.

What do you mean "if you plan to strobe"? Both 580 and 430 are strobes and both can be triggered as slaves.

What I meant was the features of 580 are more complete than 430: higher GN, PC connection and having a master feature for a wireless master-slave setup. Of course if you already have a 430ex, you can still use it as a slave, and just buy a 580ex to be the master. But since 430ex has a lower GN, I think it will work hard to align with the GN of 580 (but this is only my theory and I still don't know if the ratios in wireless ettl will do something about it, since I read some forums that there were inconsistencies with 580-430 master-slave setup). :):)

If you're shooting ETTL, the flash fires a pre-flash individually and computes/calculates the power idependently, having different powered flashes has little bearing unless you're firing at near full power of the more powerful flash.

ETTL will ALWAYS have inconsistencies on each press of the shutter. Just like auto/semi-auto exposure modes of a camera.

nhguerrero <-- the flash won't fire slave in manual. it has to be on slave mode. read manual.
Yes I read the manual. The flash is set to slave mode (flashing power level led). What I'm saying is, the Nissin won't fire when the built in flash is set to manual. It has to be in iTTL mode. My first post was when I just got the unit. Now I know better. The Nissin can now be triggered via wireless with pc connection using the modifications in the link below.

http://www.pinoyphotography.org/forum/index.php?topic=43722.0

Another thing. The hot shoe is disabled when the Nissin is set to slave mode.

Has anyone ever used the 550, precursor of the 580? I already have a 430 and am being offered a pre-owned 550 for 10k. I'm thinking that instead of getting a 580 for so much pesoses, I might be better off with a pre-owned 550. I have gone through reviews but I just need some first-hand experience from you guys.

Has anyone ever used the 550, precursor of the 580? I already have a 430 and am being offered a pre-owned 550 for 10k. I'm thinking that instead of getting a 580 for so much pesoses, I might be better off with a pre-owned 550. I have gone through reviews but I just need some first-hand experience from you guys.

Nick this might help you...

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-550EX-E-TTL-Speedlite-Flash-Review.aspx

-:)-

thanks ranny!

Just like what guru Lei Sarmiento (http://digitalphotographer.com.ph/forum/member.php?u=11256) said, the thingy majigy inside the head moves up and down depending on the position of the head. The best configuration that I found for this flash is having the head pointed straight up and a "Perfect bounce card" on it.

With the flash pointing forward also gave me underexposed shots.

same problem with your bro. Sometimes it works fine ok but usually during night shots it's underexposed.

so guys....are you saying that it' is ok to use this Nissin as a second flash in manual mode? can i use it in slave mode with my SB800 as the master..of course in manual mode?

so guys....are you saying that it' is ok to use this Nissin as a second flash in manual mode? can i use it in slave mode with my SB800 as the master..of course in manual mode?

It will fire in slave mode. This is true whatever flash you have on your camera as long as it's iTTL. It can even be fired by another Di622 on cam.

So what' the problem? Yes, the Di622 can only be triggered as slave flash and not even by infrared trigger. If you want to trigger it via infrared trigger, get the Nissin Di466 as it's more sensitive.

I use those two flashes and they do their purpose for me.

Sir Lei, which is better : the Di466 or the Di622? I'm a casual photographer using a Canon S5 IS looking (trying) to be more creative in flash photography.

TIA sir.

For those looking for RF triggering of their Nissin, found these in YT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6EzCU03ymQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VKEvpTPOis&feature=related

http://reviews.davidleetong.com/?p=1150

Once in a while, great products come out in the market that not only offers quality but also great value. While most OEM products are well worth their weight in dollars, many camera equipment are beyond the beginner’s limited budget.

With repeated advice in my site to beginners to get a flash before anything else after their first camera kit, it’s about time that we review a low-cost, high-quality flashgun that’s out in the market today.

The Nissin Speedlite Di622 is manufactured by one of Japan’s oldest camera flash manufacturers, Nissin Marketing. The Nissin Di622 (Di622 hereon out) is a mid-level flash model for the Nissin brand and it’s intended to match up against the mid-level offerings of Nikon and Canon (SB-600 and 430EXII, respectively) in terms of output and features.

http://reviews.davidleetong.com/wp-content/gallery/nissin_review/20090706-IMG_7567.jpg

Read the rest of the review here (http://reviews.davidleetong.com/?p=1150)<<<
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First the specs:

A bit overdue but at least something to bookmark when someone would need help about it :)

Hopefully Noel can provide some modding photos and instructions to breath some RF life into the 622 :D

David, I was intrigued by your post showing the Di622 firing via ir signals from you 550ex, so I tried triggering it via CLS mode on my D70s using the pop-up flash.

@1/100 shutter speed
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2467/3703916436_e8c27fcd5c.jpg
No Flash


@1/125
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3495/3703108351_720cd12726.jpg
Still nothing

@1/160
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2497/3703916868_9025e0be81.jpg
Eureka! It fired!


@1/200
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2421/3703109041_bfe367e5c8.jpg


@1/500, the d70s maximum flash synch speed
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2451/3703108019_2d035eacfb.jpg
Still fired.


So, the Di622 can be triggered via the IR signals from Nikon's CLS from 1/160 and up (for the D70s at least). Havent tried it outdoors nor distance wise though.

Try turning the body sensor (of the flash) towards the camera as well.

Try turning the body sensor (of the flash) towards the camera as well.


Tried it just now, still the same results. Interestingly, it seems that at speeds below 1/160, the Nissin can be triggered but the shutter speed isnt fast enough to capture the flash, as I can see 2 consecutive bursts from the nissin. It is the 2nd burst that the cam has to capture, which, the minimum speed should be 1/160.

hi.... a newbie question here... can i use this speedlight (nissin) as slave for my SB-900?... another thing, can i trigger both of them (nissin & SB) using a cactus V4? planning to buy a slave for my SB-900... - if nissin can do the job as slave, then i'll go for this than the SB600...

Jhim: Please read the actual review, both questions were addressed already.

1) Yes
2) No

I've been considering this flash, along with the Sunpak PZ42x. I've been reading mixed reviews about the Nissin though, and I hear (from a friend who has a friend who took the class) Sir Jo Avila teaches that any flash EXCEPT Nissin is good. So I'm sort of leaning towards the Sunpak now, or considering saving up for a 430ex (not the version II).

Happy Nissin Owner here...

I would just like to share my wireless set-up...

http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/2180/dsc48312.jpg (http://img115.imageshack.us/i/dsc48312.jpg/)

I had my nissin flash modded by Love Electronics (Taytay Branch). They installed a 3.5 mono female jack tapped to the pilot switch of the nissin.


http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/3281/dsc48302.jpg (http://img268.imageshack.us/i/dsc48302.jpg/)

the nissin is triggered via pc sync using a yong nuo ctr-301p...

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/5372/dsc48292.jpg (http://img198.imageshack.us/i/dsc48292.jpg/)

although it's not a beauty to look at it serves it purpose and I love it... =)

I just don't know if this is the mod sir david is referring to? =)

Yes it is. Does the mod bypass the quick "sleep" mode?

Yes it is. Does the mod bypass the quick "sleep" mode?
unfortunately it doesn't... but i believe based on what i saw in the youtube mod vid, that additional modification could be done to bypass that...it was too complicated to have done on our local electronic shop...=)

are there shops in manila where this nissin can be modded??

You can just go to any cellphone repair shop and show them the mod instructions ;)

Hi!

I'm planning to buy a Nissin Di622 this coming months. However, I'm still trying to look for alternative because I'll try to be involve in Portrait also strobing. I'm a bit worried because I won't be able to use the Nissin Di622 for wireless trigger (unless to modify it) and SB900/800 are not within my budget. SB600 is also not an option because shops here in Singapore are no longer selling brand new stocks of this flashguns. Is there an alternative flash for Di622 that can be used as a slave, can be triggered wirelessly? or is there a known working wireless trigger that would work with Nissin Di622 without modifying it.

Thanks, would really appreciate your help on this. :)

Please search next time....

http://digitalphotographer.com.ph/forum/showthread.php?t=26136
http://digitalphotographer.com.ph/forum/showthread.php?t=25967
http://digitalphotographer.com.ph/forum/showthread.php?t=21834
http://digitalphotographer.com.ph/forum/showthread.php?t=14926
http://digitalphotographer.com.ph/forum/showthread.php?t=25467

Hopefully Noel can provide some modding photos and instructions to breath some RF life into the 622 :D

Sorry David. I have already assembled the back cover that shows where the wires were soldered. There were already so many photos in the net that I did'nt bother to take any more photos. But there's a video step by step tutorial at PiPho. Below is the link.
http://www.pinoyphotography.org/forum/index.php?topic=43722.140
Just look for the you tube video.

Yes it is. Does the mod bypass the quick "sleep" mode?

Slave mode does not have the quick sleep mode. But it shutsdown after 30 mins. of idle time.

Quote from the manual:
"To save battery energy, the power is automatically turned off (to standby mode), both in TTl mode and Power ratio mode, in about 30 secs of idle use. (When Di622 is placed on the camera, it will turn to standby mode after 5 sec. approx. when the camera has been turned off or turned to standby mode.
While the D1622 is in standby mode a pilot lamp blinks every 5 secs. showing the unit is in standby mode.
To turn on Di622 again, press the cameras shutter button halfway or press any butoon of the flash unit.
In case the Di622 is not in use for over 5 mins., the unit is completely turned off and turned off and shut out the current leakage from the batteries.
In case of using Di622 as a slave flash (at slave mode) Di622 will not go into standby mode. It will however automatically turn off when not used over 30 minutes."

Yes it is. Does the mod bypass the quick "sleep" mode?

The mod does not alter the operation of the flash. What is done is just solder two wires on opposite contacts of the "TEST" button. Those two wires are then connected to a socket where the synch cord of the RF trigger is then plugged into. The video tutorial goes a step further by adding another switch to disable the photocell that controls the optical triggering. Experience of others a PiPho shows this is not necessary.

unfortunately it doesn't... but i believe based on what i saw in the youtube mod vid, that additional modification could be done to bypass that...it was too complicated to have done on our local electronic shop...=)

If you are referring to Jack's video, what he did was to add another switch to disable the photocell that controls the optical triggering. This way, the Nissin can only be triggered via RF. But this is not necessary unless you are shooting with other photographers using TTL flash units.

This how it looks like after the wires have been soldered. The pilot button is actuall the TEST button (the one with the green light above the power button).


http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t199/greenfield54/Di622.jpg

Photo courtesy of PiPho and Tooln46x.

This how it looks like after the wires have been soldered. The pilot button is actuall the TEST button (the one with the green light above the power button).


http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t199/greenfield54/Di622.jpg

Photo courtesy of PiPho and Tooln46x.


sir noel, last night i went to the electronics shop and modified my nissin, my problem is my wireless trigger phottix, cant trigger.. did you modify your trigger too or at ease?? thanks again

sir noel, last night i went to the electronics shop and modified my nissin, my problem is my wireless trigger phottix, cant trigger.. did you modify your trigger too or at ease?? thanks again

In the first place, did you test the flash after the mod without the trigger? My trigger just arrived yesterday. I will still have to install the pc socket to the Nissin. It was tested by shorting the two wires soldered to the test switch. Of course without the trigger.

yes sir noel... we tested before we modify... oh my gusthhhh bahala na... :-)

yes sir noel... we tested before we modify... oh my gusthhhh bahala na... :-)

I mean after the modification. A synch cable should be plugged into the Nissin after which the other end shorted out to simulate being triggered by the RF trigger. The purpose of this test is to make sure the mod was done correctly. Only after this is confirmed should you use it with your phottix. I really see no reason why it should't work since this mod has been done countless times successfully.

ah ok.. let check later sir.. then i'll give you feedback.. thanks again bossing...

Update on the Nissin mod. The Nissin won't fire on my Yong Nuo RF trigger. I checked the trigger pulse of the Yong Nuo and my impression is that it is of too short a duration to fire the Nissin. So the problem lies with compatibility with the trigger used. Testing it further, the Nissin fires occassionally but not consistently.

Where can you buy this?

Where can you buy this?

Which one the Nissin Di622? You can buy it at Filters-Exchange tru Lehboy. Check the link below.
http://www.pinoyphotography.org/forum/index.php?topic=34967.0

thanks noel! :)

at last!!! my nissin di622 modified work with my new cactus trigger v4 .. YAHOOOOOO!!!!
im so happy.....

Warly: Share naman :)

tomorrow i'l try to post some picutres on how it happen.. heheheh

yey thanks. :D

after the long test and inquiries to our fellow photography, here s my trophy heheh
my nissin Di622 modified.. same thing as the other photog modified there nissin, i follow there instruction.. 3mm mono jack place on the side of the flash...

1st problem and still on process of working, i try the Phottix tetra PT04 II still no response.

thanks to jason of camtrade (Pipho) for the Cactus trigger v4 it work wonderfull...

i try manual mode, optical, even ttl mode..... hhehehe

many thanks to the people who help me lot, DPP at Pipho, mabuhay kayoo mga bossing.,,,..

i think nissin company give us pilipino a credit to modified there unit.. hehehe
toink!!!!


heres the pictures :

cactus trigger v4
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v645/warlito/1.jpg

if you check the manual or booklet theres a page wherein sir berni ledesma article
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v645/warlito/2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v645/warlito/2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v645/warlito/4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v645/warlito/5.jpg

here is the cable only plug to receiver unplug to the hotshoe and still working and firing (galing, galing)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v645/warlito/3.jpg


happy viewing...

(Whoa!!! hirap mag enlesssh.. noise bleed) heheheheheh

How much is a Cactus trigger? Thanks sir!

3k sir... :-) i think jason gave me a 10% discount last sunday ...

How much is a Cactus trigger? Thanks sir!

check this link bro.. http://www.gadgetinfinity.com/home.php/product.php?productid=17204&cat=274&page=1

Warly: Permission to post one of the photos as a comment in my review?

Warly: Permission to post one of the photos as a comment in my review?


sure boss no problem..... as long it will help to our fellow photog... goodluck!!

Looks like Nissins and Cactuses will be out of stock for a while :Grin:

i try manual mode, optical, even ttl mode..... hhehehe



Even TTL huh?

actually, last sunday we try testing the cactus and this nissin unit to nikon dslr and guess what it works too... its vice versa heheheheeh!!!hindi lang pang canon pang nikon pa... :-)

As I said. My modded Nissin did'nt fire with the Yong Nuo triggers which I bought fro m Tayhua. I returned it to them and exchanged it with other items along with new orders. Ackerly Chua of Tayhua is some great guy. Now I have to buy the Cactus v4. For now,I'll be temporarily use hardwiring(cables) for my table top shoots. The Nissin is great. In addition to on cam TTL and manual, I can also use it off cam using iTTL hot shoe cord and with the modification, I can also fire it off cam thru a softbox with diy trigger cords using 3.5mm mono plugs and sockets. Soon I will need another Di622 or modify my old school flashes to safely use on my DSLRs.
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t199/greenfield54/IMG_0057CC.jpg

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t199/greenfield54/IMG_0060CC.jpg



http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t199/greenfield54/IMG_0066CC.jpg

I'm green with envy LOL, but buying Nissins now would ruin my Nikon and Canon setup.

I'm green with envy LOL, but buying Nissins now would ruin my Nikon and Canon setup.

Well, we also want to have all Nikon or Canon set ups. But we can't afford it. Not yet at least.

Naku if I can only do it all over again? I'd buy old SB-26 or Vivitar 285s

go go go NISSIN!!! heheheeh

@warly

Bro, i also have a nissin speedlite and also wanna modify..Did you do it yourself? p share nmn on how to modify the speedlite. thnx

hmmm how can i explain this, how to modify my nissin????
i'l post some info by tommorrow, my guide is in my office... :-)

just like to share, and other photogs who wants to modify there nissin di622 flash..... credits to the people who modified the nissin di622 (RB Manahan, and some photog (Pipho))

also read this site for more info..
http://www.pinoyphotography.org/forum/index.php?topic=43722.280

heres the pictures:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v645/warlito/nissin.jpg

guys check this out , jason from Pipho post some info about the Lomo universal translator
no need to midify our nissin di622.. i dont know if its working.. but im trying to test and see what will happen hehehe

heres the link
http://www.mpex.com/browse.cfm/4,12111.html

guys check this out , jason from Pipho post some info about the Lomo universal translator
no need to midify our nissin di622.. i dont know if its working.. but im trying to test and see what will happen hehehe

heres the link
http://www.mpex.com/browse.cfm/4,12111.html

How does this work? Does the lomo act as a receiver itself or you would have to buy one and attach to it still?

give you an update sir mark about that matter.. i'd already pm jason for the info...
then i'l try to update this thread... :-)

David, I was intrigued by your post showing the Di622 firing via ir signals from you 550ex, so I tried triggering it via CLS mode on my D70s using the pop-up flash.

@1/100 shutter speed
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2467/3703916436_e8c27fcd5c.jpg
No Flash


@1/125
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3495/3703108351_720cd12726.jpg
Still nothing

@1/160
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2497/3703916868_9025e0be81.jpg
Eureka! It fired!


@1/200
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2421/3703109041_bfe367e5c8.jpg


@1/500, the d70s maximum flash synch speed
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2451/3703108019_2d035eacfb.jpg
Still fired.


So, the Di622 can be triggered via the IR signals from Nikon's CLS from 1/160 and up (for the D70s at least). Havent tried it outdoors nor distance wise though.

how about using D90 (CLS)? may nakasubok na ba?

Edit: I've reread the article it does have IR slave mode. Curious now how it works well with CLS

Brian: English please.

As mentioned, the flashes work if you're after triggering, but not ratios.

nissin Di6222 modified on youTube
Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6EzCU03ymQ&feature=PlayList&p=3EBF3D7F424C893B&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=2

PArt 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VKEvpTPOis&feature=PlayList&p=3EBF3D7F424C893B&index=3

just like to share, and other photogs who wants to modify there nissin di622 flash..... credits to the people who modified the nissin di622 (RB Manahan, and some photog (Pipho))

also read this site for more info..
http://www.pinoyphotography.org/forum/index.php?topic=43722.280

heres the pictures:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v645/warlito/nissin.jpg

The PiPho member who started all this is TOOL46X.

There are instructions calling for shielded cables for the mod. I don't find any advantage to this since the cables in the Nissin near the pilot button is unshielded. I used ordinary ribbon cables used in PC hardware. Picture below.
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t199/greenfield54/IMG_0073.jpg
Just cut off the length needed. The advantage of this cable is that it's just the right thickness that would not cuase probems during reassembly.

Just in case you will be using the type of mono jack pictured below. I suggest the protruding part be cut off to avoid assembly problems, short circuits caused by this part touching the PCB. Take note of the photos below.

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t199/greenfield54/IMG_0070.jpg

Before removal of the protruding part. Shown spanning 64 to 67.

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t199/greenfield54/IMG_0075.jpg

After the removal. Use a hack saw to cut the part off.

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t199/greenfield54/IMG_0072.jpg

Two shown for comparison.

It's also a good idea to apply a short piece of heat shrink tubing to avoid touching anything else on the PC board. My experience shows short circuits are the culprits for the unusual operation of the flash after modification.

any update on the LOMO universal hotshoe adapter?

any update on the LOMO universal hotshoe adapter?

I dont think it would work, because when you put the Nissin in slave mode, the hotshoe pins are disabled. The lumopro still works via passing the current thru the hotshoe pin.

korek sir noel .. before i post my message i always give credit to people who modified and invented this modification

Ergo only the mod will work for now.

Question, should i get a Di22 would it be compatible with a 580EX II master in HSS mode?

No, only the 866 has HSS capability.

sir, newbie here....if i wanna Mod my nissin(if i got 1 this coming week) where can i mod my flash? where or what shop who modifies it? am afraid of dismantling the unit (DIY) and i might broke it :( and how much will be the cost? TIA:Grin: i'll be using yongnuo 301's :)

sir, newbie here....if i wanna Mod my nissin(if i got 1 this coming week) where can i mod my flash? where or what shop who modifies it? am afraid of dismantling the unit (DIY) and i might broke it :( and how much will be the cost? TIA:Grin: i'll be using yongnuo 301's :)

I believe there's a shop called Love Electronics in taytay who can do it for you. In my experience, the Yong Nuo does'nt work. But Catus V4s are said to be compatible with the Nissin mod. The mod is very straight forward. Try to backread a little more.

Wow, Love Electronics mods flash now??? hehe.

Wow, Love Electronics mods flash now??? hehe.

Yup but they seem to be getting greedy. Check the link below.

http://www.pinoyphotography.org/forum/index.php?topic=43722.300

Updates on this flash? Other places that will do the mod?

does ETTL work when triggered optically?

does ETTL work when triggered optically?

I don't think so dean.

sir, newbie here....if i wanna Mod my nissin(if i got 1 this coming week) where can i mod my flash? where or what shop who modifies it? am afraid of dismantling the unit (DIY) and i might broke it :( and how much will be the cost? TIA:Grin: i'll be using yongnuo 301's :)


try love eletronics taytay i think they cost for 1.2k for high!! hehehe

also try "TELEFUNK" cellphone stand site at shopwise cubao, cost 500pesos...

Sir Warly, can you post some sample pics using the trigger? Pics shot off cam?

Sirs, anyone know where can I have my Nissin Di622 repaired? Problem with the power IC, I think it needs replacement. :)

sorry double post.

Sir Warly, can you post some sample pics using the trigger? Pics shot off cam?



nge?? kakahiya poh..

eheheheheh ok for the sake of nissin modif.. hehehe
here it is.. sorry for the ugly shoots..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v645/warlito/m12.jpg

and
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v645/warlito/s2.jpg

thanks po...

Saan ang ugly?

First time to use a flash other than the pop up. I shot, 1 kill.

Saan ang ugly?

First time to use a flash other than the pop up. I shot, 1 kill.


HEHEHE ugly shoot....

maybe sir, lets have some pictorial session using my modified nissin.. hehehe!
and share some more dirty and ugly shoot... hehehehe

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3533/3922370624_cdf1819352.jpg

Sir warky, here's my on cam shot. Di622!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3533/3922370624_cdf1819352.jpg

Sir warky, here's my on cam shot. Di622!



nice shoot sir.. hehehehe

but my name is WARLY not warKy hehehe

ooops. Sorry Boss Warly.

Tried toning the exposure a bit.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3473/3921696037_8ab87fee32.jpg

Grrrr.

thanks sir donnil

try love eletronics taytay i think they cost for 1.2k for high!! hehehe

also try "TELEFUNK" cellphone stand site at shopwise cubao, cost 500pesos...


anyone had their flashes modded at telefunk? ok ba?

To fellow Di622 owners, seems like the rumor about the firmware upgrade that will enable our flashes to be used with rf triggers is not a rumor after all. A user from another forum called up JT photoworld (the official Nissin distributor in the Philippines) and the store said that their technicians who attended the briefing made by Nissin in Japan will be arriving next week. Announcements regarding the firmware upgrade process particulars shall be announced real soon. Good news!

Wow, if this is true, then the value of the 622 soars

hmmm
seems like my dilemna for the 430ex II and Di622 is up again
:Grin:

Wow, if this is true, then the value of the 622 soars

wah, I'm planning to buy one this Christmas and I'm hoping that it'd still be around 7k.. or less.. X)

JT photo the local Nissin distributor already answered some of my inquiries. They asked for my Nissin's serial number, and after checking, even though it was bought at Hidalgo, they found out from their records that it was still imported by JT, thus, they would do the firmware upgrade for my flash free of charge. The only thing to do now is to send them my flash and see if it would work with my Yongnuo trigger. Crossing my fingers.

JT photo the local Nissin distributor already answered some of my inquiries. They asked for my Nissin's serial number, and after checking, even though it was bought at Hidalgo, they found out from their records that it was still imported by JT, thus, they would do the firmware upgrade for my flash free of charge. The only thing to do now is to send them my flash and see if it would work with my Yongnuo trigger. Crossing my fingers.

thanks for the information sir:)..., im happy that the firmware upgrade is now available but im little worried coz i can't find the box of my flash:(

thanks for the information sir:)..., im happy that the firmware upgrade is now available but im little worried coz i can't find the box of my flash:(

Are you thinking that the serial number can only be found on the box? The serial number is actually etched in the flash tube housing (the underside). You can see it when you tilt the flash 90 degrees up.

Are you thinking that the serial number can only be found on the box? The serial number is actually etched in the flash tube housing (the underside). You can see it when you tilt the flash 90 degrees up.

thanks again sir, i'll check it later:)

This flash is worth it. Thanks guys for the comments in this thread. I was able to decide to get this flash. Thanks also for Mr David Tong for his in depht review.

Anyone tried this with an off-cam flash cord? Been contemplating to use one. Any ideas about TTL performance while in flash cord?

Anyone tried this with an off-cam flash cord? Been contemplating to use one. Any ideas about TTL performance while in flash cord?

The flash will still issue a pre flash for the camera to adjust power wether it's on cam or off cam thru a TTL cord. So my theory is that it should work.

Happy Nissin Owner here...

I would just like to share my wireless set-up...

http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/2180/dsc48312.jpg

I had my nissin flash modded by Love Electronics (Taytay Branch). They installed a 3.5 mono female jack tapped to the pilot switch of the nissin.


http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/3281/dsc48302.jpg

the nissin is triggered via pc sync using a yong nuo ctr-301p...

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/5372/dsc48292.jpg

although it's not a beauty to look at it serves it purpose and I love it... =)

I just don't know if this is the mod sir david is referring to? =)

http://tayhua.com/images/CTR-301a.jpg

ryan, is this your wireless Trigger?
http://tayhua.com/rftrigger2.html

im planning to have one because my trigger wont work.

Sir Noel

Does putting your Nissin on TTL mode and your D40 on manual mode works?

any reviews on the firmware upgrade? TIA

Sir Noel

Does putting your Nissin on TTL mode and your D40 on manual mode works?

Tried it just now. Yes it works with the Nissin on TTL and the camera on full manual.

+ 1 on this, anyone had it upgraded & tried? any reviews on the firmware upgrade? TIA

+ 1 on this, anyone had it upgraded & tried?

bro have you inquired at JT if your unit was imported by them?

not yet, don't have the time :( bro have you inquired at JT if your unit was imported by them?

i got my new Di622 last week, the one ready for remote trigger... here's what we experienced so far....... remote trigger can only be done indoor and when you're out in sun remote trigger won't function. :(

Brian: I think you referring to the optical slave function, which, regardless of brand or model, doesn't work well in bright sunlight.

Brian: I think you referring to the optical slave function, which, regardless of brand or model, doesn't work well in bright sunlight.

i see... so that's what you call it :) (using TTL to trigger the flash remotely)... any suggestion on how can i use it in bright sunlight?

Well, that's the downside of any optical-based system compared to RF, since the Di622 can't meter TTL in slave mode anyway, might as well get an RF trigger to solve the problem.

Well, that's the downside of any optical-based system compared to RF, since the Di622 can't meter TTL in slave mode anyway, might as well get an RF trigger to solve the problem.

thanks david.

Hi,

Can I know what are the compatible RF triggers available for Di622? And how much do they cost?

Thanks!

Hi,

Can I know what are the compatible RF triggers available for Di622? And how much do they cost?

Thanks!


check out JT Photo's website www.dponline.com.ph

Ok sir Thanks!

How long does your batteries last? im using GP 2700 and it can only go for less than a 100 shots. Is this normal?

Hey guys i was searching for problems with the nissin di 622 and found this thread, I recently got this unit and it really is underexposed, I have the sunpak rd2000 as my main walking around unit and it works perfectly well with the nikon ittl, i get great pictures with the sunpak unit but with the nissin i get underexposed shots. i hope they get an update out for this, whenever i use the sunpak unit its a perfect shot most of the time, i bought the di622 for wider shots or bounce flash on higher ceilings, its where the di622 shines the most for me i guess, i was hoping to have been happier with it though. It's a great unit but i I think the ttl isn't working as it should be, I always have it +1 ev compensation, I tried the shots a meter then at 2 meters then 3 underexposed pa rin but when I use it in manual mode everything is great.

Hey guys i was searching for problems with the nissin di 622 and found this thread, I recently got this unit and it really is underexposed, I have the sunpak rd2000 as my main walking around unit and it works perfectly well with the nikon ittl, i get great pictures with the sunpak unit but with the nissin i get underexposed shots. i hope they get an update out for this, whenever i use the sunpak unit its a perfect shot most of the time, i bought the di622 for wider shots or bounce flash on higher ceilings, its where the di622 shines the most for me i guess, i was hoping to have been happier with it though, im thinking of selling it and getting another sunpak unit message me if your interested in my di622 its about a week old today :)
i am guessing that the distance of the subject plays a factor if your pic is under... like the strobe head angling + distance...

Sir rhoben (tama ba?) ok naman yung settings nung camera i event went as slow as 1/16 shutter speed where as with my sunpack i go up to 1/200 and the exposure is still ok, aperture is at its widest, i am using a kit lens so hanggang f3.5 lang yung highest aperture setting niya sir, then ive tried it at 1 meter and at 2 meters away, i could send you a sample pic in your email sir if you want, nalulungkot kasi ako eh hehehe christmas gift ko pamandin sa sarili ko yun :D Im not saying its not a nice brand, but maybe it wasnt meant for nikon? I wonder if Canon users have the same experience with the di622, I was thinking about what the others say about being lost in translation since nissin is only a 3rd party manufacturer, but thats just like saying that putting performance parts in a car's engine like K&N or HKS Turbos and they make the car slower right? i think its more like a glitch lang or manufacturer error, but im guessing it could be corrected with a firmware update, Nissin wouldnt last for so long if they made products that didnt make people happy :) I'm not looking for a debate guys, just my 2 cents :D Cheers! and Happy Holidays to everyone Onga pala ok lang ba nagpopost ako dito kasi ibang model yung cam ko ahehehe

i'm also interested in the Di622 and need some advice:

i want to use the Di622 off-camera. i'm ok with using it in manual mode... i have a canon system (with a 430EX) and a set of RF triggers. i'm thinking of getting the nikon-mount version for the ff reasons:

1) the said firmware update makes the di622 compatible with RF triggers, for on-cam flash... i'll stick with my 430EX on my canon system. for me, the di622 stays off-camera so it should still work, right?
2) my brother has a nikon system so he can also use the di622 on-cam with his nikon system (or i can use it when i borrow his nikon system)
3) i've read that the di622 works in optical trigger mode as long as the camera/flash used is in ttl mode. will i be able to trigger the di622 using my 430EX as long as it's in TTL mode or i can only trigger it optically with a nikon system because it's a nikon-mount?

thanks very much!

Hey guys,

Thinking of buying the di622 this saturday. For canon users, do you guys experience major underexposure (even as a fill in flash, there is underexposure/ you already have a +2 ev from an Av/Tv setting while 0 flash compensation but still have underexposure) and red eye problems?
and any news about the firmware being available for canon models? I don't really need to use it as a slave but having one ready is efficient.

Thanks!:)

just sharing... since i was able to answer my own questions. for those who are thinking of using the di622 off-camera, it's better to get the nikon-mount version. the optical trigger works even if you're not using a nikon system (as long as your flash is in TTL mode) and if you get the firmware updated version... it works with RF triggers.

Hi guys, my Nissin always underexpose. To compensate for the underexposure, I usually add a +.07/+1 FEV on my D40 but still, a bit underexposed shot. In manual mode, it works really fine but I want to know if I have a bad copy of the flash. Since I bought and got it updated from JT, it must be easy for me to have it replaced by another copy... Please Help. thanks

Same problem with my Nissin on Nikon D40. I wonder if they made better copies of this unit...

hello im just a newbie and im a 500d user. i would like to ask if Di622 is compatible with my cam? and can i use it as slave flash and triggered by my on-cam flash? im planning to buy 430ex but my father wont allow me because its too pricey. and i would like to ask on where to order it online. TIA

yes sir.. welcome to DPP.. yes its working to your cam as long its for canon mount, :-)
as far as i know, the new di622 is updated (firmware) already... :-)

where could i buy in the internet? do you know. or is there anyone selling it?

Check the link below.
http://filtersxchange.multiply.com/photos/album/32/FLASH_Nissin_Di622_Flash_for_Canon_and_Nikon

Got my Nissin last march 2009. Used it in iTTL mode, manual and slave mode. Works fine. I used it with my D40 in manual and P mode and also with the Nissin off cam and the D40s built in flash firing it. As with other gadgets, they may have bad copies. That's why warranties are important.

Got my Nissin last march 2009. Used it in iTTL mode, manual and slave mode. Works fine. I used it with my D40 in manual and P mode and also with the Nissin off cam and the D40s built in flash firing it. As with other gadgets, they may have bad copies. That's why warranties are important.

I've read many complaints about their units too, having the same problem with mine. So will it still be possible that I got a bad copy? Or maybe you just had the best copy?

The underexposure occurs when you fire the Nissin straight at the subject in iTTL, when you bounce it or use it in manual mode, it works fine. Can you please try to test again if it doesn't really underexpose? :)

I may have to go back to JT for a replacement if this isn't normal on a Di622.

I'm a Canon user, and problem's the same. I don't use ETTL anymore because of underexposed photos. After a few bumps because I'm carrying it in my unpadded backpack, ETTL is now overexposed. I'm getting used to it in manual setting though, just think of it that Nissin Di622 doesn't have TTL. The good thing about this flashgun is it still zooms in sync with my lens which I don't really know how it will affect my photographs.

I'm a Canon user, and problem's the same. I don't use ETTL anymore because of underexposed photos. After a few bumps because I'm carrying it in my unpadded backpack, ETTL is now overexposed. I'm getting used to it in manual setting though, just think of it that Nissin Di622 doesn't have TTL. The good thing about this flashgun is it still zooms in sync with my lens which I don't really know how it will affect my photographs.

Hmm, that's weird! From underexposure to overexposure? :Thinking:
Not using the TTL of Di622 may eliminate its advantage from a yongnuo flash which costs at around 3k only. It's easy to use in Manual but the additional price we paid for the TTL is not cheap.

And by the way, the flash zoom controls the wideness of the light being fired. The wider the focal length of the lens, the wider the light will be. As you zoom your way down to your subject the flash also tightens the beam of flash that it would fire. Please Correct me if I'm wrong. :)

I've read many complaints about their units too, having the same problem with mine. So will it still be possible that I got a bad copy? Or maybe you just had the best copy?

The underexposure occurs when you fire the Nissin straight at the subject in iTTL, when you bounce it or use it in manual mode, it works fine. Can you please try to test again if it doesn't really underexpose? :)

I may have to go back to JT for a replacement if this isn't normal on a Di622.

Works fine. What I notice though is when I use it in burst mode wherein the consecutive images become darker. But this maybe caused by the batteries I was using. It maybe best to bring your cam to JT and show them what you mean.

Got mine from Pixel Pro last october 09. It works fine, even with a great distance using TTL as the flash setting. Didn't you guys try the flash before buying? I mean didn't you test your copy on the store to see if you have a good copy or not?

Works fine. What I notice though is when I use it in burst mode wherein the consecutive images become darker. But this maybe caused by the batteries I was using. It maybe best to bring your cam to JT and show them what you mean.

I'm testing the flash everyday for an improvement but nothing really has changed. Still underexposed shots at iTTL. Do you think JT would accept my reason for a replacement? I am sure that the batteries are not the problem because I fully charge the batteries before I test my flash.

@Ernzt - Hi sir, I pass on testing the flash the night I bought it. It's my fault, I know.. I really don't expect any failures from my Nissin since I bought it at a credible store but I know that it's not their fault too. Now I'm expecting that they would replace or just repair my unit for free. :)

And to add to what I posted ^

I got my Nissin updated after I bought it without even testing it's iTTL performance. Would it be possible that the firmware also updated Nissin's iTTL performance?

Aw! you shoudn't passed on testing. A gear cost a lot of money so testing is a must. Just bring it to JT so they can check your unit and let them decide whether they can replace your unit. Good luck

I'm testing the flash everyday for an improvement but nothing really has changed. Still underexposed shots at iTTL. Do you think JT would accept my reason for a replacement? I am sure that the batteries are not the problem because I fully charge the batteries before I test my flash.

@Ernzt - Hi sir, I pass on testing the flash the night I bought it. It's my fault, I know.. I really don't expect any failures from my Nissin since I bought it at a credible store but I know that it's not their fault too. Now I'm expecting that they would replace or just repair my unit for free. :)
I strongly believe they will accept your concern. As I said, the best way to convince them is to show them the problem. It's bad business for them to not entertain you. But make sure it's still within the warramty period and the unit was not tampered with in any way.

I just bought the flash last january 7 and I am sure that I've not tampered the Unit in any way! haha!

Thanks for the support sir, that's what I really need. :)

My friend was asking how much it would cost to repair a broken shoe mount of a Nikon Di622. Is there any place to have it repaired cheap and reliable?

i think that's Nissin Di622, i suggest to go to jt photo, they're the distributor of nissin brand flash..

Hi,

Can I know what are the compatible RF triggers available for Di622? And how much do they cost?

Thanks!

Just follow the thread bro...regarding compatibility of Di622 and Rf-602... hope this will help...

http://www.digitalphotographer.com.ph/forum/showthread.php?p=866379#post866379

I brought my flash unit last January 21 to JT and the flash is still with them. Today, I've just been informed that the flash will either be brought to Nissin-Japan or wait for the parts from Japan and repair it here. I have to wait until the end of February for the flash to be repaired. I can't wait any longer! :( I want to get the flash back tomorrow and just bear the malfunctioning of the iTTL forever.

I am very disappointed...

I just got my nissin di866 flash and im trying to look for a compatible diffuser. I'm looking for a stoffen. Can anyone please help me. I would really appreciate it. Thanks.

You can also suggest other accessories/diffuser that will be compatible with the di866. I also wonder if there's a ring flash adapter that will be compatible on this unit. thanks again :)

580ex2 sized fits ok, just add a tiny bit of gap spacer if necessary.

580ex2 sized fits ok, just add a tiny bit of gap spacer if necessary.

I see. Thanks David! :) Are there any ring flash adapter compatible with the Di866?

Oh dear, I thought you said Di622... sorry.

For the Di866, it's not the same as the 580ex2... You'll need something like this (http://cgi.ebay.com/Sto-Fen-Omni-Bounce-NEW-for-the-Nissin-Di-866-Flash_W0QQitemZ250507678604QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCame ra_Flash_Accessories?hash=item3a536bd38c).

I use the 580EXII stofen for my di866, it fits...

ah... now im confused... so that means the stofen for the 580 EX II fits both di622 and di866?????:Thinking:

hi ian,

any news on your flash? i'm also considering using this with my d40.

thanks!


I brought my flash unit last January 21 to JT and the flash is still with them. Today, I've just been informed that the flash will either be brought to Nissin-Japan or wait for the parts from Japan and repair it here. I have to wait until the end of February for the flash to be repaired. I can't wait any longer! :( I want to get the flash back tomorrow and just bear the malfunctioning of the iTTL forever.

I am very disappointed...

Is this possible? I recently upgraded to a D90 and was wondering if I can use my D90 to trigger the flash wirelessly without using the on-cam flash. Would like to try it but I'm still at the office and I just happened to discover now that a D90 has a commander mode :D

Commander mode still uses the onboard flash to fire slaves. But it's set at a very low power level and does not contribute much to the overall exposure. The Nissin can only be fired remotely using your onboard flash set to iTTL mode or via radio triggers. It does not support CLS if that's what you're asking.

thanks for the clarification!

follow up q's
-will i be able to replicate "commander mode" if i use a negative flash compensation from the onboard flash of my d90?
-for a hobbyist, is it worth to get an sb600?
-CLS - what's that? ^_^

thanks for the clarification!

follow up q's
-will i be able to replicate "commander mode" if i use a negative flash compensation from the onboard flash of my d90?
-for a hobbyist, is it worth to get an sb600?
-CLS - what's that? ^_^

Hi, just want to share...I recently update my Di622's firmware at JTPhoto... I can now use wireless flash trigger...

before I trigger my Di622 off-cam using the "optical mode", where you are going to push the mode button for 2-5 seconds... and set the power manually...

If you have the budget go for the SB600

CLS-Creative Lighting System

HTH

hey guys,

im planning to buy a nissin di622 and ive read that this flash can be triggered off-cam using another flash on-cam. does the upgrade on the firmware required in order to use this feature? and does it work with other kind of flash guns? im wondering if anyone in DPP have tried this triggering a Di622 via a flash burst.

TIA :)

[quote=tristanligot;886991]hey guys,

im planning to buy a nissin di622 and ive read that this flash can be triggered off-cam using another flash on-cam. does the upgrade on the firmware required in order to use this feature? and does it work with other kind of flash guns? im wondering if anyone in DPP have tried this triggering a Di622 via a flash burst.

TIA :)[/quote
Even the early versions without the firmware upgrade will fire in slave mode. For Nikon systems, the camera flash should be in iTTL mode. The Di622 needs the pre-flash to fire it. The firmware upgrade allows the unit to fire using compatible rf triggers attached to the hotshoe. The early versions without the upgrade disables the hotshoe conatcts when the Nissin is in slave mode. Maybe David could chime in. I believe he wrote a review for the Nissin.

hi ian,

any news on your flash? i'm also considering using this with my d40.

thanks!

sam here sirs. your threads were very helpful. i just put on hold the purchase of the di622, pending the outcome of the last thread.

noob question, would a pair yn 460II on manual, bounced or diffused, do the same job?

I recently purchased a Nissin Di622 for my 450D in KL. Im new to using an external flash like the one I bought. Can anybody help me?

if your asking how to operate it, then read the manual... if it's how to use it, it'll be better if tell us what specific purpose, since it's to vague to just ask how to use it... are you using it as an off cam strobe, etc...

Ah ok so you both the canon compatible model. I use Nikon but they are more less the same. The best step is to read the manual. For now you will be using it in ETTL mode (iTTL for Nikon). Also read your camera manual with emphasis on external flash.

(a repost from http://www.digitalphotographer.com.ph/forum/showthread.php?t=30797 thread)

Hi.

I tried using my Nissin Di622 (for canon) as a slave triggered by my Agfatronic 280 CB flash but the Nissin won't flash. I even put it really close the sensor of the Nissin, still nothing happens.

But when I use the built-in flash of my camera to trigger it, it is working perfectly fine.

There's no problem with my Agfatronic flash because I've used it during my analog days up to present. Although its a little more older than me because it was my dad's.

my questions are:
1. has anyone experience the same problem?
2. why is my Nissin flashing fine, as a slave, when it is triggered by the built-in camera flash and not with my other flash (Agfatronic 280 CB)?
3. will the Nissin flash only by another Nissin triggering it? as well as the built-in camera flash?

Thanks in advance!
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This made me laugh. Because it's the same mistake when I first got my Nissin. The Nissin on slave mode needs two flashes from the trigger. A pre flash and the main/actual flash. And this is only possible if the trigger operates via ETTL (iTTL for Nikon). So wether you use the built in or external, it has to be ETTL to fire the Nissin in slave mode. But take note of this. The Canon uses the flash for AF assist (Nikon uses a separate af assist beam) that can fire the Nissin prematurely. So turn it off. Experienced this with my sons Canon 30D. Hope this helps.

I see... Yeah, I do notice that the built-in flash flashed several times. You're right, the Agfatronic is a manual flash that fires only once. I tried it using both full and half burst.

Very much thanks to you guys!
Now I know

:Grin:

* problem solved.

I see... Yeah, I do notice that the built-in flash flashed several times. You're right, the Agfatronic is a manual flash that fires only once. I tried it using both full and half burst.

Very much thanks to you guys!
Now I know

:Grin:

* problem solved.

Just curious. My Nissin (Nikon compatible) was fired prematurely by my son's Canon 30D with the AF assist on and the Nissin on slave mode. Maybe this does not happen if the Nissin is Canon compatible. Can you try it for me? Thanks.

Just curious. My Nissin (Nikon compatible) was fired prematurely by my son's Canon 30D with the AF assist on and the Nissin on slave mode. Maybe this does not happen if the Nissin is Canon compatible. Can you try it for me? Thanks.

Hi.
Do you mean while focusing, with AF assist enabled, the Nissin flashed?

I tried it already but the nissin did not flash. It only flashed when give it a full shot. (you know what i mean @__@).

anyways.
I have another question... How could I possibly trigger my Nissin using my manual flash? If possible, without using any remote or optical trigger. Just the plain ol-sensor of the Nissin.

Thanks again in advance.

Hope I helped you sir noel guerrero.
:Grin:

Hi.
Do you mean while focusing, with AF assist enabled, the Nissin flashed?

I tried it already but the nissin did not flash. It only flashed when give it a full shot. (you know what i mean @__@).

anyways.
I have another question... How could I possibly trigger my Nissin using my manual flash? If possible, without using any remote or optical trigger. Just the plain ol-sensor of the Nissin.

Thanks again in advance.

Hope I helped you sir noel guerrero.
:Grin:

Thanks. That was what I suspected. My Nissin is Nikon compatible and was triggered while my son's Canon was focusing with the af assist enabled. Canon compatible units apparently are designed not to have this happen.

No way could your manual flash trigger the Nissin optically. Tried that already.

Thanks. That was what I suspected. My Nissin is Nikon compatible and was triggered while my son's Canon was focusing with the af assist enabled. Canon compatible units apparently are designed not to have this happen.

No way could your manual flash trigger the Nissin optically. Tried that already.

If that's the case, so how could I use my nissin as a slave? Without using the camera's built-in flash.

Thanks in advance.

[quote=ricksonchew;903255]If that's the case, so how could I use my nissin as a slave? Without using the camera's built-in flash.

Thanks in advance.[/quo

When you say slave that means there's a main flash and the Nissin would only provide illumination for fill or hair light and such. That is the function of a slave. It's always in support of the main flash. And there can be more than one depending on your set up. Maybe you mean you want to trigger the Nissin off cam? You can either use a cord or wireless triggers.

When you say slave that means there's a main flash and the Nissin would only provide illumination for fill or hair light and such. That is the function of a slave. It's always in support of the main flash. And there can be more than one depending on your set up. Maybe you mean you want to trigger the Nissin off cam? You can either use a cord or wireless triggers.

Uh.. yeah.. that's actually what i meant :Grin:

I use a flash cord btw. Hmm.. maybe the old-fashion way is not good anymore in digital photography. @___@

I use optical triggers before, but there are alot of disadvantages using it. So, I think I need wireless triggers now huh? >__>

Thanks.

if i upgrade my nissin di622 will it fire using CTR-301P without pc sync cable? tnx for the answer =)

if i upgrade my nissin di622 will it fire using CTR-301P without pc sync cable? tnx for the answer =)

yeah. the ctr301p will work fine

yeah. the ctr301p will work fine
Thank you Sir Carlo for the info!

I got my Di622 from mayer, and thanks to Ms. Joy, got my unit upgraded for free. Since the upgrade, I've been able to trigger my flash using the RF-602, but only on the 1st to 2nd shot, it doesnt fire on the succeeding shots or if the flash fire, the flash is delayed by second...

does anyone experience the same thing that happened to me?

Noel: Change your RF602 batteries first.

does di622 have problems with ctr301p? does it misfires? just wanted to know before i buy =) tnx for answering :)

@David, ok david... Ill try, the battery im using at the moment there is the free battery from the box....

Noel: Those batteries are as good as dead hehe... Really lousy "free" batteries.

GoodPM!

I just bought my nissin di622 today and i noticed that everytime it turns on, it makes this clunking mechanical sound. Is this normal?

GoodPM!

I just bought my nissin di622 today and i noticed that everytime it turns on, it makes this clunking mechanical sound. Is this normal?

yah, i think its normal..

is that the sound before the green lights starts to lighten up?
if it is, then its the normal sound, hahaha

GoodPM!

I just bought my nissin di622 today and i noticed that everytime it turns on, it makes this clunking mechanical sound. Is this normal?

yeah its normal. you'll even feel it vibrate:D

does di622 have problems with ctr301p? does it misfires? just wanted to know before i buy =) tnx for answering :)

yeah wondering about that, too. I already have the di622 but can't decide on a flash trigger.

if anyone knows is there's issue please help!

yeah wondering about that, too. I already have the di622 but can't decide on a flash trigger.

if anyone knows is there's issue please help!

Haven't encountered any problems yet with the CTR301P...been using it for 3months now.
my setup D5K+Di622(updated FW)+CTR301P

yeah wondering about that, too. I already have the di622 but can't decide on a flash trigger.

if anyone knows is there's issue please help!

Having the same dilema sir!


Haven't encountered any problems yet with the CTR301P...been using it for 3months now.
my setup D5K+Di622(updated FW)+CTR301P

Did you modify the flash for external trigger?

Having the same dilema sir!




Did you modify the flash for external trigger?

Not really a modification, only updated the firmware of the flash... if in case your flash is not yet updated, JT Photo in Makati updates the firmware of Nissin Di622, if you bought the flash from them, updating is free, if not, i think it will cost you around P750.00... HTH..

What's wrong my my Ettl?

I took these photos with the same settings: F4.5, 1/125, iso 400, Canon 450D, Tamron 28-75 lens. Both flashes on ETTL mode.

Isn't the Di866 supposed to be better than the 622?

HELP PLEASE!!!

shot with the Nissin Di622
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j292/Gtoyz/IMG_9312.jpg




shot with the Nissin Di866
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j292/Gtoyz/IMG_9311.jpg

Hard to give comments with only the two images as example, obviously the 2nd shot didn't have flash fired, it's not exactly useful to make us help you deduce what's wrong though.