can you help me decide on this?
im planning to get a 70-200 f2.8L but i dont know if i would go to the IS version or the NON IS. ill be using this lens on almost everything, wedding, sports, portrait maybe, i already read the thread about the IS and the NON IS thing but still i cant decide, i personally want the IS version but my budget doesnt allow me, but the thing is, if i will get the IS version is it worth the price and on where will i use it or just go with the non IS and save some?????? what is the difference of the two? or get the NON IS and get also a nice tripod? to compensate the shake versus the IS thing...............

thanks a lot, please help me decide on this, i really want to have this before dec. this is my xmas gift to my self......... i wont eat after i get this monster...............hehehehehe

^^ Since you aint gonna be eating anyway, go get the IS version. Love yourself.

If you're using it for everything, might as well get the IS version.

i really want to know the difference between these two lenses,

@fidel
is it final that your getting the 2.8L NON IS? have you consider the IS version?

I did consider it but since my primary use for it would be sports, I decided to save up for the non-IS version instead since IS does not really do much when it comes to shooting sports since sports requires a high shutterspeed anyway. :)

^^ Since you aint gonna be eating anyway, go get the IS version. Love yourself.


Hahaha I like this recommendation of yours randy. I remember you telling me to think about this 70-200 2.8 IS over at Pinoymac. Good thing I didn't listen at the time hehehe. :)

hay......... maybe i could also go for the NON IS, any one else who could help me with this? im running out of time..... i have to get this by 3rd week of nov...... think think think...........

get the IS. if u don't need it, i think you can turn it off anytime. then on when you want.:)

hay......... maybe i could also go for the NON IS, any one else who could help me with this? im running out of time..... i have to get this by 3rd week of nov...... think think think...........

You could buy a lot of photography stuff with the money you save when you buy the non-IS one. Think about it. :)

i use the IS version and i'm very happy with it. i am able to shoot some portrait shots with just available light (in most situations and scenarios) and get to use a slower shutter speed so i can prioritize on my aperture. that's my take on it. but if you are tight on budget then get the non IS version or how about the f/4 IS? have you considered that?

only get what you can afford.

people from years before survived without IS...i cannot see why we can't live without it.

IS for me definitely.....have you ever tried shooting at 1/5 or even slower? Youll love IS so much youd wish every lens made comes with it. I got pampered so much by the 24-105L and its because of the IS.

@JP
yes in also considering the 4L IS

to all
thanks a lot, my first love is the IS version but when we talk of the budget the non IS is acceptable, your right Glenn we dont have an IS lens before and the pros survive without this kind of technology, and chris is definitely correct with the use of the IS on the lens, if your lens doesnt have IS, you can still use tripod to shoot diba? same effect or outcome din naman un diba un nga lang you have extra load coz of the tripod........

hay hirap talaga magdecide kung tight budget, kasi dapat every centavo is worth buying.......

only get what you can afford.

people from years before survived without IS...i cannot see why we can't live without it.

i agree that get only what you can afford. but if you can afford IS and live with the convinience of it why not? these new aspects of technologay allows us to be more creative and not be restrained by by the current instruments we have. it can make our creative workflow more efficient and effective.

i agree that get only what you can afford. but if you can afford IS and live with the convinience of it why not? these new aspects of technologay allows us to be more creative and not be restrained by by the current instruments we have. it can make our creative workflow more efficient and effective.
hey jeyps!glenn here from "AKBay" (admu high school..hehehe)

yep.definitely, if money is not an issue, get the IS version. difference in IQ is negligible, and IS works wonders, indeed.

but the OP mentioned that his "budget doesn't allow". im not in the liberty to preach about practicality here, but it's just that im not the kind of person who will go over my budget just to get what i "want" and not what i "need".

sir ryan, if IS will earn you more money, go with it. if IS would just be a "want" which you can live without, just go with the non-is version, i am sure it won't disappoint you. and you will have more money in your pocket for other equipments like a flash or filters or whatever.

just my worthless .02$

If you need it now, go for what you can afford. Otherwise, save your money, save some more, then go for the IS version once you can afford it.

hey jeyps!glenn here from "AKBay" (admu high school..hehehe)

yep.definitely, if money is not an issue, get the IS version. difference in IQ is negligible, and IS works wonders, indeed.

but the OP mentioned that his "budget doesn't allow". im not in the liberty to preach about practicality here, but it's just that im not the kind of person who will go over my budget just to get what i "want" and not what i "need".

sir ryan, if IS will earn you more money, go with it. if IS would just be a "want" which you can live without, just go with the non-is version, i am sure it won't disappoint you. and you will have more money in your pocket for other equipments like a flash or filters or whatever.

just my worthless .02$

oh hey glenn! i agree with you. it all boils down to what you need. if what your needs will be answered by the non IS version then go for it. wants come after only budget hehehe!

if the need is not pressing, id rather save up and be happy with the purchase versus settling and then regretting....

thanks a lot sirs.....

Sirs I have a question, what is the counterpart of the IS tech of Canon at Sigma?coz I'm planing to buy the 70-300 lens for my 350D.many thnx

Sirs I have a question, what is the counterpart of the IS tech of Canon at Sigma?coz I'm planing to buy the 70-300 lens for my 350D.many thnx
i think its called...OS

test it first because some people report that OS doesn't work very well with some canon bodies.

i think its called...OS

was about to answer it. yes it is OS. optical stabilizer.

if you have enough budget get the IS...non-IS is excellent as well.

i really want to know the difference between these two lenses,

@fidel
is it final that your getting the 2.8L NON IS? have you consider the IS version?

There's really 2 very important differences that will have a big impact:

1. The ability to shoot at 1/8-1/25 at 200mm with IS (you can hardly use that without a tripod with the non-IS version)

2. about P30k price difference.


Now, the question for you is this -- Is that ability to shoot that important scene at 1/8-1/25 sec at 200mm that important to pay for an extra P30k?


2nd question -- Can you do with the cheaper 70-200 f4L IS w/c is optically on par with the f2.8 versions. It's lighter, smaller, and cheaper too P59K!

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Sirs I have a question, what is the counterpart of the IS tech of Canon at Sigma?coz I'm planing to buy the 70-300 lens for my 350D.many thnx


The stabilizer tech of Sigma is called OS (as others have named it correctly). However, Sigma has only a couple of lenses that has it. One is the 80-400 and I believe the newer 18-200 or something like it. In any case, it's not very good or very fast. Best to go canon here.

Now, Canon has 2 in this range with IS. The older 75-300 f4-5.6 IS (w/c I have and am selling), and the newer and better 70-300 4-5.6 IS. The former is around P28k or so. The latter, about P10K more.

If you can afford the newer one, you are good as it is much better. Otherwise, the older model is also ok too. I'm getting rid of mine because I haven't used it for over 2 years! No fungus or defects. Besides, I have other lenses that are better and that cover the same range.

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Tnx Sirs! I' planning to get the Non IS tlaga coz its within my budget range.my buddy is bugging me lang coz he owns a nikon d70 and is getting a 80-500 ata or something like that from sigma.I believe the non is cost 13k while the is cost 33k a big difference aybe i'll go for the non is na lang.tnx to all

My suggestion is that SAVE UP FOR THE IS. :)

... what is the difference of the two? or get the NON IS and get also a nice tripod? to compensate the shake versus the IS thing...............



IMOHO, whether you get the IS or non-IS, don't you think having a decent tripod is a must for all serious enthusiasts?

:)

My suggestion is that SAVE UP FOR THE IS. :)

i agree. before i thought is was nothing but "arte" but it actually does work! if you can, go for it! happy that i did :)

With a shutter speed of 400 and above,shall a lens with an IS feature have any advantages over a NON-IS lens when shooting still subjects during day time?Also,normally,how often is IS helpful?Lastly,is IS still needed if you are using a tripod?
THANKS.


Michael Y.

With a shutter speed of 400 and above,shall a lens with an IS feature have any advantages over a NON-IS lens when shooting still subjects during day time?Also,normally,how often is IS helpful?Lastly,is IS still needed if you are using a tripod?
THANKS.


Michael Y.

You should NOT use IS if you are using tripod...

IS is very helpful when shooting handheld in shutter speeds BELOW (i mean..slower) than 1/60 in low light conditions...which also depends on how steady your hands are.

some photogs who mastered their telephoto lenses claim to shoot sharp photos using NON IS lenses under 1/60 secs...one even claim (forgot the link with pics!) to have sharp pictures using 1 second shutter speed:Shock:!

actually glenn there are some IS lens that you can leave them turned on even when attached to a tripod. here's the link to enlighten people. :)

http://www.dlcphotography.net/TripodAndIS.htm

IMOHO, whether you get the IS or non-IS, don't you think having a decent tripod is a must for all serious enthusiasts?

:)

i agree! a decent tripod is a long term investment. most tripod owners i know still uses their first tripod because they ahve invested in a very sturdy and reliable one. don't cut yourself short when buying a tripod!

OT: ann congraulations on your new tripod hehehehe!

actually glenn there are some IS lens that you can leave them turned on even when attached to a tripod. here's the link to enlighten people. :)

http://www.dlcphotography.net/TripodAndIS.htm


that's interesting... but i don't see the reason why you would want an IS if you are using a tripod already.

what i've read is, IS when activated in a steady state will produce more blur...

anyway..thanks for the link..interesting read!

actually glenn there are some IS lens that you can leave them turned on even when attached to a tripod. here's the link to enlighten people. :)

http://www.dlcphotography.net/TripodAndIS.htm


I just got a Canon 70-200 F2.8L(IS-Version)the other day.How can I tell if my lens came with an IS feature that I should leave it on even if I mounting my lens in a a tripod?
THANKS.

Michael Y.

......what i've read is, IS when activated in a steady state will produce more blur...


really? is this true? how about prosumer P&S cameras that has IS/VR/SteadyShot (mine's S3 IS) is it advisable to turn off IS when using tripod?

Thanks!

browsing and consulting my dear friend mr. google, i found this link: http://digital-photography-school.com/blog/image-stabilization-on-tripods/ (http://digital-photography-school.com/blog/image-stabilization-on-tripods/)

quoting the site --

The Rule
- if you’re hand holding your camera in lower light situations switch on IS
- if your camera is tripod mounted - switch IS off.


The Exception
- Yes, there is always an exception to any rule and in the case of IS it is important to know that there are some DSLR lenses that can actually sense and account for when you’re using a tripod (Canon calls it tripod detection - a feature that was added in 2000). As a result you don’t need to switch image stabilization off at all.
As a result - a second ‘rule’ comes into play - ‘read your lens manual and you won’t go wrong’.

really? is this true? how about prosumer P&S cameras that has IS/VR/SteadyShot (mine's S3 IS) is it advisable to turn off IS when using tripod?

Thanks!
i honestly don't know..you can research on that.

but ask yourself...why would you stabilize your image if it's already "stabilized" by a tripod!? it doesn't make sense right?

and as i understood the IS technology, it vibrates a little bit to make up for the shake....so if it's on..and then the lens is on the tripod..in theory at the very least, what will you get? blurry images.

there are new lenses that can detect a tripod....if you don't turn it off, it's just a waste of precious lithium power...:D

it is very simple. they made the newer versions of IS so that you won't ahve to turn it off everytime. less worries on your gear. simple as that.

I know that IS doesn't freeze action but what results shall I get by using the IS feature of my lens while shooting action sports with a high shutter speed as compared to not using the IS feature?Would it be better for me to turn on the IS feature or turn the IS off while shooting action sports with a high shutter speed?
THANKS.

Michael Y.

IS only detects and compensate for camera and lens level movement. Using traditional pan and anticipation, fast shutter speed, wider angle shot to compensate for subject movement (or servo AF) might just spoof IS into negating those very actions you would have used to get the subject in focus.