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Nick Tuason
10-25-2006, 10:59 AM
Attention: All Forum Members

This thread is not to sound snobby or elitist. I just want to remind everyone of our rule that DPP is an English speaking forum. While we do allow and do not discourage "taglish" in the forum, members are requested to have the majority of their posts in English. Why? Because we envisioned DPP as a international forum and not just a local community. You may notice that there is a growing amount of international members here. You will also see participation with international photographers and technical support departments from equipment manufacturers growing in this forum. As a courtesy to our international community, we encourage you to use English as the main form of communication here.

Thanks for listening!

john_villavicencio
10-25-2006, 11:01 AM
err... senor... yo no hablo ingles... hehehe

just kidding nick... will do :D

Nick Tuason
10-25-2006, 11:06 AM
John,

Thanks! I have received several PMs some international members who can't understand many of the posts here or some of the slang that members like to use. I appreciate your consideration.

Earl Gonzalez
10-25-2006, 11:24 AM
Alrighty then! :) Copy that...

willy_palacios
10-25-2006, 11:32 AM
okidoki from now on Miriam will be beside mua :)

eric_javier
10-25-2006, 11:35 AM
I agree with nick...from now on I will use tagalog in the PM only if i know the recipient is Pinoy..

Carlo R. Lopez
10-25-2006, 11:42 AM
copy that sir nick

Tammy_David
10-25-2006, 11:51 AM
Noted!

I don't know if it's too much to ask but I hope a grammar police will be availble too :p I lack in that department hahahaha

fidel_mercado
10-25-2006, 11:54 AM
No problem, will do. :)

john_villavicencio
10-25-2006, 12:04 PM
i'd like to join the grammar police... hehehe

edlin_roguel
10-25-2006, 12:07 PM
10-4 Captain. :)

Cyrus Estanislao
10-25-2006, 12:10 PM
OMG! :) I have to use English then. :) :)

JonDexterTan
10-25-2006, 12:13 PM
'recognize that nick! thanks! :D

Nick Tuason
10-25-2006, 12:15 PM
OMG! :) I have to use English then. :) :)


Taglish is allowed so long as you write with the thought that other international members may be reading your posts.

Parc_Cruz
10-25-2006, 12:15 PM
Understood, Sir Nick. Thanks.

PARC

Raffy Crucillo
10-25-2006, 12:18 PM
Will do, Nick.

Will try to write and speak in gooder English. :Grin:... just kidding. Acknowledged, Nick.

Nick Tuason
10-25-2006, 12:27 PM
LOL Raffy.

Doesn't matter to us if you have bad England. :D

tracy_arciaga
10-25-2006, 12:57 PM
No Prob.. English speaking it is...

ana_mamangun
10-25-2006, 01:03 PM
whoopsy, guilty...
noted though, english from now on...

derek delapaz
10-25-2006, 01:06 PM
oh no! i don't know how to speak english.

Roro Fernandez
10-25-2006, 01:19 PM
Strictly English from now on then. :) or if we'll use TagLish, might as well translate the Tagalog words just like how newspapers do it :)

Amiel_Mercado
10-25-2006, 01:23 PM
Got it no Tagalog, and the other 71 dialects left. :)

willy_palacios
10-25-2006, 02:26 PM
..& I think most of the Photographic words are in english di ba ( isn't it ). any word in tagalog/ filipino relating to photography???

archie_apostol
10-25-2006, 02:40 PM
How about... "putograpi"? Just kidding

English it is then.

louie_lao
10-25-2006, 02:46 PM
Will do!!! :)

Earl Gonzalez
10-25-2006, 02:49 PM
Wow... Everyone's starting sprachenheiten un Dollar! :D hehehehehehehe

Rolando Avecilla
10-25-2006, 03:03 PM
One for the mocking bird...

jose_deluna
10-25-2006, 03:48 PM
I just want to remind everyone of our rule that DPP is an English speaking forum.
- I cannot recall that such rule existed at DPP.

While we do allow and do not discourage "taglish" in the forum, members are requested to have the majority of their posts in English. Why? Because we envisioned DPP as a international forum and not just a local community.
- I do believe in the principle of “thinking globally, but acting locally.” Also, a forum suggests that members should be able to speak/write freely, without the limitations of language barrier. Maybe there’s a need to create a sub-forum called Digital Photography Philippines-International.

You may notice that there is a growing amount of international members here. You will also see participation with international photographers and technical support departments from equipment manufacturers growing in this forum. As a courtesy to our international community, we encourage you to use English as the main form of communication here.
- In these cases, forum members should be sensitive enough to adjust their language to ensure that their thoughts and ideas get through effectively. Otherwise… kung tayo-tayo lang naman ang nag-uusap ay higit pa rin magiging makabuluhan at epektibo ang ating talastasan sa sariling wika.

This thread is not to sound snobby or elitist.
- It did sound snobby and elitist to me.

Other points to consider:
- Why not dioscourage the use of text-messaging at IT lingo… higit namang katawa-tawa wikang ganito

- “Taglish” – There is no such thing, it’s either you speak/write in Tagalog/Filipino or English fluently

- Higit na magiging kaaya-aya ang “forum” na ito kung maiiwasan ang paglikha ng mga patakaran na nagbibigay lamang ng limitasyon sa mga kasapi nito. Higit na makabubuti kung pauunlarin ang kalayaan na may kaakibat na pananagutan.

- Sa kahuli-hulihan, wastong pakiramdam at sentido-kumon lang naman ang kailangan upang tayo ay higit na magkaunawaan.


Mabuhay ang DPP!

Rolando Avecilla
10-25-2006, 03:58 PM
Saglit lang, hindi ko mawari kung saan ko naitago ang aking sedula, hanap na ni ka-Andres upang ito ay punitin. :D

Wait, I can't seem to find where I kept my Community Tax Certificate, ?-Andres is looking for it to tear it apart.

Hmm... pareho lang mahaba. :D

Nick Tuason
10-25-2006, 04:23 PM
Jose,

If you find it snobby or elitist then that is your opinion. However, we aren't going to change our rules. Its there when you register.

I just want to remind everyone of our rule that DPP is an English speaking forum.
- I cannot recall that such rule existed at DPP.

While we do allow and do not discourage "taglish" in the forum, members are requested to have the majority of their posts in English. Why? Because we envisioned DPP as a international forum and not just a local community.
- I do believe in the principle of “thinking globally, but acting locally.” Also, a forum suggests that members should be able to speak/write freely, without the limitations of language barrier. Maybe there’s a need to create a sub-forum called Digital Photography Philippines-International.

You may notice that there is a growing amount of international members here. You will also see participation with international photographers and technical support departments from equipment manufacturers growing in this forum. As a courtesy to our international community, we encourage you to use English as the main form of communication here.
- In these cases, forum members should be sensitive enough to adjust their language to ensure that their thoughts and ideas get through effectively. Otherwise… kung tayo-tayo lang naman ang nag-uusap ay higit pa rin magiging makabuluhan at epektibo ang ating talastasan sa sariling wika.

This thread is not to sound snobby or elitist.
- It did sound snobby and elitist to me.

Other points to consider:
- Why not dioscourage the use of text-messaging at IT lingo… higit namang katawa-tawa wikang ganito

- “Taglish” – There is no such thing, it’s either you speak/write in Tagalog/Filipino or English fluently

- Higit na magiging kaaya-aya ang “forum” na ito kung maiiwasan ang paglikha ng mga patakaran na nagbibigay lamang ng limitasyon sa mga kasapi nito. Higit na makabubuti kung pauunlarin ang kalayaan na may kaakibat na pananagutan.

- Sa kahuli-hulihan, wastong pakiramdam at sentido-kumon lang naman ang kailangan upang tayo ay higit na magkaunawaan.


Mabuhay ang DPP!

willy_palacios
10-25-2006, 05:10 PM
I do believe we already have foreign members here since some of our beloved home grown photogs had caught thier attention...

Just because using English could or would be elitist is outrageous! I guess you could say that when the community or forum is about Filipino Lingo then when someone keeps on blurting out English words Now that's elitist but here , it's just a normal 9 to 5 thingy.

I love the Philippines & i liek speaking Filipino But there comes a time when we heed a certain call, when the forum must come together as one......:)

jose_deluna
10-25-2006, 06:25 PM
Just because using English could or would be elitist is outrageous! I guess you could say that when the community or forum is about Filipino Lingo then when someone keeps on blurting out English words Now that's elitist but here , it's just a normal 9 to 5 thingy.

I love the Philippines & i liek speaking Filipino But there comes a time when we heed a certain call, when the forum must come together as one......:)

It becomes elitist if English becomes the only medium to express yourself in such a forum... you should allow other members to express themselves in a language that would convey their message in the most effective manner. (e.g. in TrekEarth Photo, they even provide a translator box to translate photo comments using different foreign languages).

I agree with you in terms of coming together as one. The only problem is HOW. For me, the best way to do this is still to remain steadfast in our commitment to accommodate all Filipino photographers (Tagalog or English speaking); and to avoid emphasizing on themes/issues that are devisive and concentrate more on unifying efforts.

Nick Tuason
10-25-2006, 06:34 PM
@Jose- There's no point arguing this because our rule is to use English as much as possible. Please don't make an issue out of this.

Marton_Benitez
10-25-2006, 06:41 PM
Engrish? hehe jk :)

Sure thing! :)

Manuel Garcia
10-25-2006, 07:42 PM
Wow. akala ko pweding tagalog dito. Kasi nalaman ko lang ang forum na ito sa Nikonian , kasi doon mayroon din yatang nagsasalita ng wikang Pilipino, Masmarami akong nauunawaan kung wika natin ang ating gagamitin. Hindi lang naman ako ang mahina sa salitang english, kung sino man sila makakabinipisyo din sila kung ang gagamiting salita ay sariling atin. :)

Nick_Espino
10-25-2006, 07:49 PM
I think all of us can speak/write/read/understand English in some form or another, while not all can read and understand Filipino.

Sonny Thakur
10-25-2006, 07:52 PM
*sing to the tune of Cant touch this*
Stop!
Grammar time!

While I dont really have anything against reading tagalog, I would prefer to read english (maybe cause I'm more fluent with the language?). DPP is indeed growing really fast and I dont think I'm the only "foreigner" around here and this rule should make it more convinient for foreigners like myself :)

rosalie_gomez
10-25-2006, 07:56 PM
Let's just respect the rules of the forum. :)

I used to PM some members when I see posts in Tagalog. However, I noticed recently that there have been more and more posting in Tagalog that I actually sent Nick a PM to clarify if the rule still stands (and it does) so I'll just do my share if I come across such posts in the future. :)

jose_deluna
10-25-2006, 08:31 PM
I rest my case. Go and prosper DPP!

Para sa mga Pilipinong Maniniyot... padayon ang pag-pangita! Kita-kita na lang tayo sa mata.

arlene solis chua
10-25-2006, 08:32 PM
okidoki no problem

Manuel Garcia
10-25-2006, 08:37 PM
I rest my case. Go and prosper DPP!

Para sa mga Pilipinong Maniniyot... padayon ang pag-pangita! Kita-kita na lang tayo sa mata.

Bay , ayaw ko biya-e kuyog ko nimo.......:(

arlene solis chua
10-25-2006, 11:01 PM
Bay , ayaw ko biya-e kuyog ko nimo.......:(

pssst!!!dili tah pabadlong diri hehehehehe!walay makasabot nato...
is it ok cebuano english?:)
Just joking loosens up guys, make peace not war!!!
We are Filipinos and we know that we have many different languages (not dialects its language )in our country called the Philippines..lets go global,so everybody can understand lets speak english...ok ra mo maniniyot (shooter)mag ininglish nalang tah diri doh hehehehehe!! be cool:) haron mura tah naa sa call center.:BlackEye:

Marco_Ingco
10-25-2006, 11:09 PM
I'll follow the rules, but since TagLish is not really barred, I will still use it if I cannot effectively communicate what I want to in English.

Here in the US, my family always looks for a doctor who speaks our language. Mas madaling magsabi kung alin ang masakit sa yo kesa isipin mo pa kung paano mo ita-translate yung masakit sa yo. (It's easier for you to explain to the doctor what or where your pain is than having to think and translate it.) An English speaking doctor might not be able to properly diagnose you.

My thoughts.

Marco

PS

@Nick: I hope I'm not being a rebel here as I see almost all members are already in agreement to you.

ricky_ladia
10-25-2006, 11:11 PM
Ok sir Nick, no taglish! my apologies....:(

zandy_marantal
10-26-2006, 12:19 AM
It becomes elitist if English becomes the only medium to express yourself in such a forum... you should allow other members to express themselves in a language that would convey their message in the most effective manner. (e.g. in TrekEarth Photo, they even provide a translator box to translate photo comments using different foreign languages).

I agree with you in terms of coming together as one. The only problem is HOW. For me, the best way to do this is still to remain steadfast in our commitment to accommodate all Filipino photographers (Tagalog or English speaking); and to avoid emphasizing on themes/issues that are devisive and concentrate more on unifying efforts.
I agree with Jose 100% on this.

Though I post mostly in English, I think it is essential that one is allowed express himself in his native language as well if he wants to do so. In fact, this is one of the reasons why I joined and actively participate in this forum.

It's bad enough that this hobby/profession caters to mostly those that have, but having this rule really smacks elitism.

Personally, I'd rather turn-off english speaking nationals than any of my kababayans wishing to participate but doesn't have the ability or courage to write in english. But that's just me.

But be it as it may, the GODS of DPP have spoken.

This rule still leaves a bad taste in my mouth and I'm guessing Jose and I are not the only ones feeling the same way judging from the number of views generated by this thread in a such a short period of time.

zandy_marantal
10-26-2006, 12:30 AM
@Nick: I hope I'm not being a rebel here as I see almost all members are already in agreement to you.

Marco, what's wrong with being a Rebel if you're just expressing your opinion?

Is there a rule against that also? :Shock:

Marco_Ingco
10-26-2006, 02:34 AM
Marco, what's wrong with being a Rebel if you're just expressing your opinion?

Is there a rule against that also? :Shock:

There's really nothing wrong with being a rebel. I just don't want to be seen as one, especially in this forum. I love the camaraderie of the people in this forum and it would be a shame to throw it all away with this minor disagreement.

jon-jone_javier
10-26-2006, 04:10 AM
O sige na nga, English kung English. :)

Will use Taglish with discretion na lang.

Roger, roger!

willy_palacios
10-26-2006, 09:51 AM
..as they say if you can't stand the heat get out of the Kitchen!

Nick Tuason
10-26-2006, 10:00 AM
Do you smoke in a restaurant if its against the rules? No. Drive above the speed limit because you want to express yourself? No. How about shoplift? No. Because its the rules. Here at DPP we made our English request rule and plan to stick with it. If you don't want to follow our rules, then this forum is not for you.

Enough said. Lets get back to talking about digital photography.

Rolando Avecilla
10-26-2006, 10:36 AM
Sir Nick,

With all due respect, since you are putting a period in this issue and since you already said your final statment, why not lock the thread. I think we all got the message.

Then we can all go back to talking about not just digital, but general photography and other matters as well.

Thanks.