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dennisjaravata 10-27-2008, 03:53 PM Hi to All,
Due to the lower printing costs, add to that the low supply of gloss papers from Kodak printers, I tried for the first time to have a batch of my pics printed on a Fuji Lab (Southmall branch) on a 5R gloss paper.
I noticed that most of my images were darker (approx .3-.6 ev) than on my monitor and was disappointing because aside from being darker, some details are lost on the shadows.
Is anyone out there a regular customer of Fujifilm? Do you make special adjustments prior to printing? Or at least use a special calibration setting for their monitor? Or could it be that the shop I went to has a miscalibrated printer.
Regards,
nino_carandang 10-27-2008, 03:58 PM Hi to All,
Due to the lower printing costs, add to that the low supply of gloss papers from Kodak printers, I tried for the first time to have a batch of my pics printed on a Fuji Lab (Southmall branch) on a 5R gloss paper.
I noticed that most of my images were darker (approx .3-.6 ev) than on my monitor and was disappointing because aside from being darker, some details are lost on the shadows.
Is anyone out there a regular customer of Fujifilm? Do you make special adjustments prior to printing? Or at least use a special calibration setting for their monitor? Or could it be that the shop I went to has a miscalibrated printer.
Regards,
Hi Dennis,
One word: Digiprint!
There's no special calibration setting for your monitor, just calibrate it with a Spyder. It might be your monitor is too bright. What are your calibration settings? As for miscalibrated printer? They should have given you a profile also. Even if they calibrate their machine, if you're not using their profile, it's meaningless. As for the quality of the Fuji in Southmall, that has been an issue since the beginning. It's probably one of the worse ones there is.
Nino
dennisjaravata 10-27-2008, 04:09 PM Hi Dennis,
One word: Digiprint!
There's no special calibration setting for your monitor, just calibrate it with a Spyder. It might be your monitor is too bright. What are your calibration settings? As for miscalibrated printer? They should have given you a profile also. Even if they calibrate their machine, if you're not using their profile, it's meaningless. As for the quality of the Fuji in Southmall, that has been an issue since the beginning. It's probably one of the worse ones there is.
Nino
Thanks, I am a usual Kodak customer and I have never really bothered with monitor calibration since I usually get an identical output with standard LCD monitor factory settings.
It is just now that I gain interest in calibration and color profiles. At least, I could have the courage to say if my photos were improperly printed.
If only Fuji could have that same profile, they are a very good cost efficient alternative.
nino_carandang 10-27-2008, 04:18 PM Thanks, I am a usual Kodak customer and I have never really bothered with monitor calibration since I usually get an identical output with standard LCD monitor factory settings.
It is just now that I gain interest in calibration and color profiles. At least, I could have the courage to say if my photos were improperly printed.
If only Fuji could have that same profile, they are a very good cost efficient alternative.
If you got the Fuji profile, it wouldn't matter unless you have a calibrated monitor. Editing on an uncalibrated monitor is not advisable. You are actually lucky that you get identical output with your factory default settings.
georgearquitola 10-27-2008, 06:03 PM another color problem? try your adobe gamma - the no cost calibration software available on-call from your start menu.
or if you have a friend with a calibration software/hardware like the spider let him do the calibration for a color match output.
note: different printing media - different color absorption and color reflection.
Edwin Hermoso 11-09-2008, 10:53 PM Thanks, I am a usual Kodak customer and I have never really bothered with monitor calibration since I usually get an identical output with standard LCD monitor factory settings.
It is just now that I gain interest in calibration and color profiles. At least, I could have the courage to say if my photos were improperly printed.
If only Fuji could have that same profile, they are a very good cost efficient alternative.
Hi Dennis,
Maybe you could PM me which outlet you normally go to (before South Mall)? Maybe I can help you out with the Glossy surface requirement. It would help if you can let me know which sizes you normally require.
Edwin
David Tong 11-09-2008, 11:14 PM I have one question first. Is your display calibrated? If not, it really wouldn't matter where you bring the photos to print if you don't have a base reference. If it is, try to specify to the lab to NOT make any auto adjustments to your files. Based on my numerous visits to mall labs, if you don't tell them to not do any alterations, they'll do a lot of auto-level/contrast/color during printing.
dennisjaravata 12-05-2008, 12:16 AM I have one question first. Is your display calibrated? If not, it really wouldn't matter where you bring the photos to print if you don't have a base reference. If it is, try to specify to the lab to NOT make any auto adjustments to your files. Based on my numerous visits to mall labs, if you don't tell them to not do any alterations, they'll do a lot of auto-level/contrast/color during printing.
Actually my display is not calibrated, and the nearest to "calibration" I performed is my display's gamma software.
I have actually started interest in calibration (from Mr. Carandang's recommendation) and have been checking on the "Spyder" thread.
I went back to Fuji and asked if their in-house displays are calibrated, sadly, they said it has a tolerance of +/- 10%, there is also no profile that they could provide so I was disappointed.
(To Edwin:) I do not usually print except for shoots of friends and relatives which I usually distribute to them, but when I print, it is always in 5R or 8R format.
I associated the name Kodak and Fuji for professional prints and usually stay away from "unheard" printers but given the good feedback and lower cost of Digiprint, I guess my next batch will be from theirs.
....Thanks for the replies
Jo Avila 12-05-2008, 01:07 AM Actually my display is not calibrated, and the nearest to "calibration" I performed is my display's gamma software.
I have actually started interest in calibration (from Mr. Carandang's recommendation) and have been checking on the "Spyder" thread.
I went back to Fuji and asked if their in-house displays are calibrated, sadly, they said it has a tolerance of +/- 10%, there is also no profile that they could provide so I was disappointed.
(To Edwin:) I do not usually print except for shoots of friends and relatives which I usually distribute to them, but when I print, it is always in 5R or 8R format.
I associated the name Kodak and Fuji for professional prints and usually stay away from "unheard" printers but given the good feedback and lower cost of Digiprint, I guess my next batch will be from theirs.
....Thanks for the replies
You don't really need the display profile used by the Fuji lab.
You need the printer and paper color profile.
But you can only make full use of this if your display is accurately calibrated and profiled on a regular basis.
On a personal note, I've never hidden the fact that I used to resort to Adobe Gamma to "calibrate" my display. I even thought that I was getting pretty good results.
However, I saw just how far off I really was from getting a good match between the display and the print AFTER I got myself a Spyder and started reading a book on color management.
You'll get even better results with Digiprint if you at least calibrate and profile your display and self-study a bit on basic color management.
HTH.
Cheers!
Jo Avila
Bart_Gomez 12-05-2008, 10:29 PM you could tell them not to adjust your images, to print it as is.
me, im always happy with fuji prints. others have been comme ci comme ca, or "chambahan".
Jo Avila 12-05-2008, 10:47 PM you could tell them not to adjust your images, to print it as is.
me, im always happy with fuji prints. others have been comme ci comme ca, or "chambahan".
That's really the purpose of practicing color management.
It's takes out the element of chance or "tsamba".
Practice color management and make sure all color profiles are accurate.
You can get your stuff printed almost anywhere as is without "tsamba" :D
Cheers!
Jo Avila
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