I am trying to provide training in the business of photography to our two new Adphoto account executives, and I can accommodate two non-Adphoto photographers (or AEs of other photographers). We hold one-hour "classes" every Tuesday and Thursday from 8am to 9am. I know, it's quite early. :)

If you are interested to join (it's free), just give me a call. You don't need to commit to the whole thing - we might go on for several weeks - you can just "hop in, hop out." I just thought this could be my sharing for people in the profession. Your presence might also lead to a more exciting discussion.

Our current topic is "pricing photography."

Thats very kind of you mam Harvey. I hope I was back home, I'd surely grab an opportunity like this.

Nice topic BTW..I'm sure many will be interested to join.

Count me in mam... Thanks!

Interested as well ma'am :D

this is Kindness!!! wow Ma'am Harvey, I'm also interested. thanks

Hi Harvey, if AdPhoto has created any lesson plan or guides for the said sessions, I'd be interested to purchase them from you.

I'd jump on your offer but I'm too far away :(

I'm interested... I'll be flying to Manila next week. Hope to see you on one of the session.. and yes..8-9am is early! hehe

really interesting!!! :) please count me in! :)

Hope this'll show up in your wonderful blog in the future :)

Interesting..count me in too.. :)

Same here, very much interested Maam Harvey! :)

very interested as well.. i hope my schedule would permit to "hop" in a class or two if thats alright ma'am

if only I didn't have work.....:(

if only I didn't have work.....:(

if only i was in town....

Oh gee, I did not think there would be more than one or two among you who would be interested in my informal "class." :)

Let me prepare for a "test class" for after the holiday (All Saints' Day). Maybe I can meet with those who have signified their interest in this "class" on Saturday morning, November 8. It can be a two-hour class. It does not have to be 8am anymore. 9am?

What topics would you like me to prepare for?

Oh gee, I did not think there would be more than one or two among you who would be interested in my informal "class." :)

Let me prepare for a "test class" for after the holiday (All Saints' Day). Maybe I can meet with those who have signified their interest in this "class" on Saturday morning, November 8. It can be a two-hour class. It does not have to be 8am anymore. 9am?

What topics would you like me to prepare for?

Maam, i would like to join as well. :)

I'm hoping there can be more openings. Please do sign-me up Ma'am Harvey :)

Would the Hostess Madame Harvey make this seriously interesting classes available via live webcast?

I would love to be one among your class of four. Seriously.

This is very gracious of you Ma'am. Kindly count me as a participant, be it next tuesday or the weeks after. :)

im very much interested :D Thanks maam Harvey

oct 23 1243 pm
good day sis harvey, are you still holding classes and can you accomodate another enrolee/student/someone willing to learn. sana weekends para medyo with a touch of informality.if as you have said that you did not think this would generate so much interest maybe a small donation would provide for the upkeeplights,venue,aircon,contingencies.
this would be a nice xmas gift ms. harvey.
thank you in advance and pleeeeeez matuloy sana.I am trying to provide training in the business of photography to our two new Adphoto account executives, and I can accommodate two non-Adphoto photographers (or AEs of other photographers). We hold one-hour "classes" every Tuesday and Thursday from 8am to 9am. I know, it's quite early. :)

If you are interested to join (it's free), just give me a call. You don't need to commit to the whole thing - we might go on for several weeks - you can just "hop in, hop out." I just thought this could be my sharing for people in the profession. Your presence might also lead to a more exciting discussion.

Our current topic is "pricing photography."

I would love to be in this class too!

If only somebody could help mam Harvey develop an article on the business of Philippine Photography for provincial photographers. We really would appreciate it.

Raymond from Basilan

Would the Hostess Madame Harvey make this seriously interesting classes available via live webcast?

I would love to be one among your class of four. Seriously.

Can you teach me how? I don't mind sharing this way and I don't mind learning how to do live webcast. :)

oct 23 1243 pm
good day sis harvey, are you still holding classes and can you accomodate another enrolee/student/someone willing to learn. sana weekends para medyo with a touch of informality.if as you have said that you did not think this would generate so much interest maybe a small donation would provide for the upkeeplights,venue,aircon,contingencies.
this would be a nice xmas gift ms. harvey.
thank you in advance and pleeeeeez matuloy sana.

No charge for test class. No need for donation - ok pa kami - but please pass forward. If you really like to donate, you can donate to Children's Hour. I can give you their contact info. :)

If only somebody could help mam Harvey develop an article on the business of Philippine Photography for provincial photographers. We really would appreciate it.

Raymond from Basilan

Dear Raymond,

The applications and practical experiences may be different but I am sure the principles would be the same. Which is why I am opening this mini class to others - I would love to hear how others approach the challenges that we face, and how they conduct their businesses.:)

keep it up Maam Harvz...

My PM box is getting too full. Instead of writing me a private message, may I ask those who are joining me on Nov 8, to please make a list here, so I know how many chairs to prepare. Please copy and paste the entire list when you add your name.
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\My PM box is getting too full. Instead of writing me a private message, may I ask those who are joining me on Nov 8, to please make a list here, so I know how many chairs to prepare. Please copy and paste the entire list when you add your name.

1. Cez Jarlyn Young
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Hi marlo,

that is a great idea! we have having our 1st year anniversary celebration on that day and i wouldn't be able to go to Adphoto to attend. but if it would be live.. then the SSPS friends would i think be very interested! :)

\My PM box is getting too full. Instead of writing me a private message, may I ask those who are joining me on Nov 8, to please make a list here, so I know how many chairs to prepare. Please copy and paste the entire list when you add your name.

1. Cez Jarlyn Young
2. Sean Obmerga
3.

1. Cez Jarlyn Young 2. Sean Obmerga 3. Erwin Mallari

1. Cez Jarlyn Young
2. Sean Obmerga
3. Erwin Mallari
4. Chuck Oreta

1. Cez Jarlyn Young
2. Sean Obmerga
3. Erwin Mallari
4. Chuck Oreta
5. Lei Sarmiento

1. Cez Jarlyn Young
2. Sean Obmerga
3. Erwin Mallari
4. Chuck Oreta
5. Lei Sarmiento6. Melvin Sevilla

I think live webcast can work on ichat, or using yahoo messenger's video chat over isight, its just that a moderator for the main conferencing camera may be needed to keep the broadcast open and stable, as i am sure, bandwidth issues could have time lag on all open webcasts. I hope it could work. But on the other hand, this is tedious work for Madame Harvey which is already too much to ask.

Re: Mini Class on Business of Photography
1. Cez Jarlyn Young
2. Sean Obmerga
3. Erwin Mallari
4. Chuck Oreta
5. Lei Sarmiento6. Melvin Sevilla
7. Jun Dungca

I think live webcast can work on ichat, or using yahoo messenger's video chat over isight, its just that a moderator for the main conferencing camera may be needed to keep the broadcast open and stable, as i am sure, bandwidth issues could have time lag on all open webcasts. I hope it could work. But on the other hand, this is tedious work for Madame Harvey which is already too much to ask.

Sorry but I'm technologically-challenged.:D If I were not, I would love to do this as a webcast, for the benefit of those who cannot come, although it would still be great to meet the group.

Maybe between the first and the second "test" class, I can learn how, plus check our internet connection. Would anyone like to volunteer to see how we can do the webcast from our studio?

If only somebody could help mam Harvey develop an article on the business of Philippine Photography for provincial photographers. We really would appreciate it.

Raymond from Basilan

Try going to www.adphoto.com.ph/business where I have posted a few articles on the business of photography. I'm ashamed to admit that nothing has been added since a few months ago. Your response will definitely inspire me to write again. Thanks.:)

Re: Mini Class on Business of Photography
1. Cez Jarlyn Young
2. Sean Obmerga
3. Erwin Mallari
4. Chuck Oreta
5. Lei Sarmiento6. Melvin Sevilla
7. Jun Dungca
8. Carlo Baviera

Re: Mini Class on Business of Photography
1. Cez Jarlyn Young
2. Sean Obmerga
3. Erwin Mallari
4. Chuck Oreta
5. Lei Sarmiento6. Melvin Sevilla
7. Jun Dungca
8. Carlo Baviera
9. Adrian Portugal

Re: Mini Class on Business of Photography
1. Cez Jarlyn Young
2. Sean Obmerga
3. Erwin Mallari
4. Chuck Oreta
5. Lei Sarmiento
6. Melvin Sevilla
7. Jun Dungca
8. Carlo Baviera
9. Rafi Uy

and Mam Harvey...thank you so much for giving us this opportunity...this is a God send to a lot of aspiring to enter the photography business.

God Bless you and John for all your kindness.
9. Adrian Portugal

Re: Mini Class on Business of Photography
1. Cez Jarlyn Young
2. Sean Obmerga
3. Erwin Mallari
4. Chuck Oreta
5. Lei Sarmiento
6. Melvin Sevilla
7. Jun Dungca
8. Carlo Baviera
9. Rafi Uy
10. Chris Ramasola

Good thing i'm in manila right now :) Thank you for giving us this opportunity Mam Harvey, regards also to John from me, Teddy and my Dad :)

Re: Mini Class on Business of Photography

1. Sean Obmerga
2. Erwin Mallari
3. Chuck Oreta
4. Lei Sarmiento
5. Melvin Sevilla
6. Jun Dungca
7. Carlo Baviera
8. Rafi Uy
9. Chris Ramasola


im backing out from the workshop.. but il be free any days after the 8th.

ma'am harvey, i hope you don't mind me starting another set for another date.. (any date)
1. cez jarlyn young
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Re: Mini Class on Business of Photography

1. Sean Obmerga
2. Erwin Mallari
3. Chuck Oreta
4. Lei Sarmiento
5. Melvin Sevilla
6. Jun Dungca
7. Carlo Baviera
8. Rafi Uy
9. Chris Ramasola
10. Rica Quirolgico


im backing out from the workshop.. but il be free any days after the 8th.

ma'am harvey, i hope you don't mind me starting another set for another date.. (any date)
1. cez jarlyn young
2.
3.
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1. Sean Obmerga
2. Erwin Mallari
3. Chuck Oreta
4. Lei Sarmiento
5. Melvin Sevilla
6. Jun Dungca
7. Carlo Baviera
8. Rafi Uy
9. Chris Ramasola
10. Rica Quirolgico
11. Adrian Portugal- I got erased by rafi Uy..supposed to be 9th on the list


im backing out from the workshop.. but il be free any days after the 8th.

ma'am harvey, i hope you don't mind me starting another set for another date.. (any date)
1. cez jarlyn young
2.
3.

Hi all,

Can we close the list at 11? I would like to prepare some handouts (and merienda). The topic will be on negotiating, and we will discuss the "10 lies" (see the other thread) and what to do when you are told these "lies."

See you on November 8 at 9am. You may come earlier (8am) if you want to mingle and chat before the start of "class."

Hi Ma'am Harvey,

I see that the class is already full but I would just like to take a shot if I could still join. I was one of the first respondents prior to the list but was preoccupied to check again DPP and list my name. I was also the one who sent you PMs before but if all else fails, I'll just join the next batch with Cez.

Thanks!

Hi all,

Can we close the list at 11? I would like to prepare some handouts (and merienda). The topic will be on negotiating, and we will discuss the "10 lies" (see the other thread) and what to do when you are told these "lies."

See you on November 8 at 9am. You may come earlier (8am) if you want to mingle and chat before the start of "class."


Maam Harvey, If somebody backs out please includeme in the waiting list, I would like to take my wife too. The list filled up so fast.

Hi Rolly and Ronald,

Ok - that's 13, but I'm not superstitious. You're welcome to join.
Oh, plus Rolly's wife- that's 14. Closed at 14. Hopefully, there will be other sessions. :)

To encourage me to offer more sessions in the future, please prepare to participate. I would like to learn from all of you, too. :)

Great! Please send us the date and venue and other details that might help :) Thanks!

Great! Please send us the date and venue and other details that might help :) Thanks!

It's November 8, from 9am to 11am (but you're welcome to come at 8 to meet and mingle) at Adphoto 3688 Bautista Street, Palanan, Makati. There's a map on our website.
:)

...hi mam harvey, i hope there's a second time on this class. i really like to attend and learn on this topic.

...if somebody backs out before the class, i would love to take his/her place. :)

thanks and God bless!

Re: Mini Class on Business of Photography

1. Sean Obmerga
2. Erwin Mallari
3. Chuck Oreta
4. Lei Sarmiento
5. Melvin Sevilla
6. Jun Dungca
7. Carlo Baviera
8. Rafi Uy
9. Chris Ramasola


im backing out from the workshop.. but il be free any days after the 8th.

ma'am harvey, i hope you don't mind me starting another set for another date.. (any date)
1. cez jarlyn young
2. medwin bartolome
3.

Hi to all,

So it's not confusing, let's do another listing for the next class not now, but when we have a date set for it.

I probably would not have time anymore for a second class until after the end of year, and January is devoted to meeting my staff for one-on-one meetings, so I am looking at February.

For those who signed up, just this simple reminder - the mini class on the business of photography is on Saturday, November 8 at 9am, up to 11am. If you wish to just mingle with me and the others, you may come at 8am - I will be ready by then to meet you.

It will be at Adphoto, 3688 Bautista Street, Palanan, Makati City. Landline 8316117, 7571501. My cellphone is 09209207199.

Thanks Mam Harvey... See you on Saturday... :-) P.S. I got erased from the list again.. Supposed to be #9

Just a reminder to those who signed up for the free mini class on the business of photography - please come promptly or even early - so you have time to meet and chat with other photographers. Here's the final list.
1. Jean Obmerga
2. Edwin Mallari
3. Chuck Oreta
4. Lei Sarmiento
5. Melvin Sevilla
6. Jun Dungca
7. Carlo Baviera
8. Rafi Uy
9. Chris Ramasola
10. Rica Quirolgico
11. Adrian Portugal
12. Rolly Magpayo
13. Mrs. Rolly Magpayo
14. Ronald Clemente

Date: November 8, 2008, Saturday
Time: 9am to 11am (but you may come at 8am)
Venue: Adphoto Studio. 3688 Bautista Street, Palanan, Makati (map on our website)
Fee: None, but do participate actively in the discussion
See you.:)

Thanks Ma'am Harvey BTW thanks for your link about free tips on the business of photography "Very informative" thanks Erwin

Hi,

Just opened my DPP account again.

Can i still join the activity?

Thanks,

Ms. Harvey <-- Thanks and see you on Sat along with the other guys!

Hi,

Just opened my DPP account again.

Can i still join the activity?

Thanks,

I wish I could accommodate you but I can't. Maybe you can join the next one, except that I don't know yet when that would be.

Sigh . . . I wish i am there to join ma'am Harvey Free lessons.....

somebody should be taking notes and post it here after! :)

Just a reminder to those who signed up for the free mini class on the business of photography - please come promptly or even early - so you have time to meet and chat with other photographers. Here's the final list.
1. Jean Obmerga
2. Edwin Mallari
3. Chuck Oreta
4. Lei Sarmiento
5. Melvin Sevilla
6. Jun Dungca
7. Carlo Baviera
8. Chris Ramasola
9. Rica Quirolgico
10. Adrian Portugal
11. Rolly Magpayo
12. Mrs. Rolly Magpayo
13. Ronald Clemente

Date: November 8, 2008, Saturday
Time: 9am to 11am (but you may come at 8am)
Venue: Adphoto Studio. 3688 Bautista Street, Palanan, Makati (map on our website)
Fee: None, but do participate actively in the discussion


My apologies Mam Harvey, will give up my slot....had to work double shift last Thursday...plus I have a shoot Saturday the afternoon, need to recharge my batteries first.

I've already adjusted the list :)
Pls. count me in for the next session :)

My apologies Mam Harvey, will give up my slot....had to work double shift last Thursday...plus I have a shoot Saturday the afternoon, need to recharge my batteries first.

I've already adjusted the list :)
Pls. count me in for the next session :)

Hi Rafi,
It's too bad that you could not come. We had a lot of fun, and I also learned a lot from the group. It was a very interesting discussion - we even had role playing!

If plans push through, it looks like my next talk on the business of photography will be in Davao. :)

I just came from the class. :) A very interesting a different side of photography. Recommended to ALL photographers.

Thank you, Maam. Very nice indeed.

Please share, Chuck, while the info is still fresh in your mind. Look at it as having online notes. :)

Please share, Chuck, while the info is still fresh in your mind. Look at it as having online notes. :)

Winston, it actually felt like an open discussion. :D You can basically ask anything. Notes will be posted soon. eheheh.

Thanks again for the seminar Ma'am Harvey, I learned a lot.... :)

As promised, here are my notes.
http://adphoto.com.ph/business/?p=46

However, in addition to these notes, a lot of points and stories were shared during the role playing (thanks to Melvin, Jun and Sean) and the discussion and I don't have notes on them. Maybe the guys who attended can share what they learned from this morning's "class."

I also found interesting everyone's story on their worst and best negotiating experiences.:)

Firs, let me express my utmost gratefulness to ma'am Harvey for sharing her invaluable wisdom to us, neophytes of the business of photography. The class was indeed one of the most productive discussions that I've been in to lately.

I'll go over my notes later and share what have I learned. I'll probably create a new thread as discussed during the class. It's just that my hands are full as of the moment.

Again, thanks po ma'am Harvey. And to the guys who were there, it was nice meeting you all.

P.s. Jun, pasa mo sa kin pag di bumigay sa asking price mo. Bigyan kita commission nyahahahahahah!

thank you very much Ma'am Harvey for sharing your experience to us, for the tips how to deal with clients specifically, psychology etc. the next time I deal with Clients, now I know the questions that you'll going to ask (material & time of using photos, enumerates the values, extra work, time to submit, how long will use the photo etc.) with that particular questions, you can prepare what to prepare, & idea of the clients budget also would like to add: avoid day rates & long term %

I got from this class is not only the facts that I've learned but as well as my inspiration to AdPhoto & the motivation to have my own business of photography

Maam Harvey,

I am so sorry I was not able to attend the saturday's class because I was injured in a minor accident. I was sideswiped by a jeepney and my right arm was sandwiched between the jeepney's side and the taxi's door. I wasnt able to inform you through PM or the thread because I went to the hospital to have my arm checked. I got minor injuries, no broken bones, but my arm muscles are still blue and bandaged because of the open wound. I hope I can join your next class. I wanted to send you a photo of my arm but I think its too gross. :Grin: btw, my camera's safe

Geeez Rolly! that was mind-numbingly crazy!!!, show us your photos. Make a new thread. CSI-Manila. It'll be a hit!

Geeez Rolly! that was mind-numbingly crazy!!!, show us your photos. Make a new thread. CSI-Manila. It'll be a hit!

I showed my arm to fellow photographers Al Gonzales, Laurent Lecaroz and Armand Apuntar last saturday. I'm sure you won't like it. Anyway, I think it's getting better now since some parts turned from violet to dark red. hahaha. Funny thing was, due to the intense pain, I wasn't able to confront the jeepney driver. All I wanted was to sit down. I went in the cab and sat down. The jeepney drove-off and I didn't bother to pursue. But if Maam Harvey requires me to submit a photo I definitely will. :BlackEye:

Thanks Ms Harvey Chua for the notes link :). It is really informative. I wanted to join sana but Saturday is a household day for me. Already bookmarked the link. :D

As promised, here are my notes.
http://adphoto.com.ph/business/?p=46

However, in addition to these notes, a lot of points and stories were shared during the role playing (thanks to Melvin, Jun and Sean) and the discussion and I don't have notes on them. Maybe the guys who attended can share what they learned from this morning's "class."

I also found interesting everyone's story on their worst and best negotiating experiences.:)

oh thanks so much for the notes maam! :)

update: just finished reading your notes (blog) and it was indeed educational especially coming from a seasoned entrenpreneur from the business photography! thanks much Maam Harvey!

Maam Harvey,

I am so sorry I was not able to attend the saturday's class because I was injured in a minor accident. I was sideswiped by a jeepney and my right arm was sandwiched between the jeepney's side and the taxi's door. I wasnt able to inform you through PM or the thread because I went to the hospital to have my arm checked. I got minor injuries, no broken bones, but my arm muscles are still blue and bandaged because of the open wound. I hope I can join your next class. I wanted to send you a photo of my arm but I think its too gross. :Grin: btw, my camera's safe

I am so sorry to hear about your accident. Hey, you don't need to send me any pictures of your arm - I believe you - and I can imagine how painful it must have been. Take care. I hope you didn't have your accident because you were rushing to come to our class. BTW, my husband and my daughter would say the same thing about their cameras. What is it about photographers that make them care more about their cameras than themselves? Listen to Suze Orman (CNBC on Saturday and Sunday 10-11pm - she would say "people first, then money, then things." Ingat lagi.:)

@mam harvey.

Thanks for the very interesting and energetic session!

I have to say: I have learned more business wisdom (and how to say the right things) in 2-3hours than more than 5years working. And this business wisdom I learn is not only applicable to the advertising/photography business, but in any industry.

Thanks again. I hope there is a follow-up session. :)

Thanks ma'am Harvey for the great opportunity. The things we've learned in that short span of time are definitely priceless and such wisdom could only be attained after years and countless negotiations if let alone in the normal world.

Also, I salute you with sir John as well for your "advocacy" and "pay-it-forward" attitude. You both are truly inspiring people who think out-of-the-box while being particulars to others who are in need in one way or the other. God bless you!

To everyone who came last Saturday:
Perhaps you can share what you learned from your fellow photographers and me, so you can also "pay it forward."

Hi guys I created a new thread (http://digitalphotographer.com.ph/forum/showthread.php?t=18914) for us to share what we have learned from last saturday, and from actual experiences. Feel free to air your thoughts :D

awwww.. i envy you guys in blue :( i hope and pray mam harvey would conduct again for those who didn't make it. pleaseeeeeeeeee :)

A snapshot of Mam Harvey and Sir John before the class started.

Group Photo of Mam Harvey's first Mini Class on the Business of Photography