is this subjective? or is there an industry-wide definition?

I believe it is subjective like most things in photography when it comes to aesthetics. But I definitely like mine creamy :) Or when highlights form into round shapes :)

is this subjective? or is there an industry-wide definition?

Good bokeh = Subjective = Magical and Dreamy. :) = No exact industry-wide definition!

if the standard for bokeh is the one from 85 f/1.4 - then all of my glass are crap!:(

its super smooth!!!! :)

You guys should see the bokeh taken by Jay Javier's lenses. It's what a good bokeh means to me

I believe it is subjective like most things in photography when it comes to aesthetics. But I definitely like mine creamy Or when highlights form into round shapes

Same here. A real creamy bokeh would make the shot.

For starters, try familiarizing yourself with the bokeh by 50mm's. Then try using more expensive primes and high end zoom lenses and check out its bokeh. You'll see and feel the difference. :)

for me its when the background is rendered as a nice mushy mass. no edges or angles involved. perfect time warp like oof rendering. i cant really explain it but know how it looks like.

I vote for the 85 f1.4 as well. That is one lens I wish to have. Perfect for the portraits that i like to take :Grin::Grin::Grin:

if the standard for bokeh is the one from 85 f/1.4 - then all of my glass are crap!

its super smooth!!!!

for me if the background is blurred enough to free the subject of distractions, that's good bokeh :D hehe!

you guys seen the movie THE BANQUET? yung bokeh ng mga light source talagang octagonal. not smooth at all. hehehe. i was thinking this was intentional since mahusay naman yung cinematographer.

just goes to show that maybe such things are really left to the shooter. very subjective subject. :)

it is said that Canon's 135mm f2.0 produces the best bokeh among the "L" lineup and has been tagged as the "bokeh king" by some.

personally, there are days when blurred out backgrounds are ok and there are days when you want it to not blur so much as to retain some semblance of what it is relative to the subject in focus. For example, singling out your daughter in a crowd of kids without blowing the inconsequential many to oblivion :)

For the benefit of those who would like to know I'd like to invite those who use these cream machines to post their pics :) heheh puhlease!

a good bokeh is done using Photoshop..

Ok something that may illustrate or simulate this is an image whose out of focus area comes close to something filtered in Photoshop with Gausian Blur, rendered to about a radius of 20 pixels or more... Play with that. :)

IMHO, a good bokeh can only achieved through a good lens. A gaussian blur effect is too plain and flat. PS Lens blur filter is better but not near enough to a true lens blur.

BTW, is there what you called bokeh in a landscape shot?

creamy. in the sense that there is a nice gradient from dark areas to lighter areas.

a good bokeh is done using Photoshop..

that's what you call Kamote Photography :D:D

that's what you call Kamote Photography :D:D

Now that's a classic photography terminology example... :D hehehehehe

lol that cracked me up.