What is your preferred filter brand and why?What filters would you say you can't do without and why?

Since I shoot mostly outdoor, definitely a CP and ND (graduated) is a must for me. As for brand, no specifics except using the well known brands.

Alex.....I noticed you are located in Shanghai. Am based in Manila but I often go there. I've sent you an email since there are some things I'd like to ask you if you do not mind.

thx

I use Nikon NC (Neutral clear) filters on all my lenses and Nikon CP's as well.

I used to use Kenko filters but I noticed that some of my images do get glares, the glass is harder to clean and gets dirty faster, too. And so, I shifted to Hoya UV for the newer lenses. I found it better. Then, I bought a secondhand L37C filter (similar effect to the NC) from a friend and noticed that I never got glares in any of the images and the glass was just so easy to clean.

So, for my 4 newest lenses, I opted to invest in Nikon NC filters. Oh, the Hoya filters went with the lenses I sold prior to buying my newer lenses.

As for my CP, I guess I'm just too happy with the Nikon NCs that I decided to stick to my brand. I still have yet to maximize and learn the magic of the CP.

My friends keep encouraging me to buy the ND but I still don't know how to use one... so maybe next time.

Keep on shooting!

I use Nikon NC (Neutral clear) filters on all my lenses and Nikon CP's as well.

I used to use Kenko filters but I noticed that some of my images do get glares, the glass is harder to clean and gets dirty faster, too. And so, I shifted to Hoya UV for the newer lenses. I found it better. Then, I bought a secondhand L37C filter (similar effect to the NC) from a friend and noticed that I never got glares in any of the images and the glass was just so easy to clean.



Are the Hoya filters relatively of good built? I heard that they were good but somehow the construction is not very stable. Can you confirm if this is true? I am thinking of buying Hoyas as well since they seem to be cheaper than others...

I cant live without my UVHaze filters primarily. I dont want my glass to get scratched up primarily. I also have ND Filters. I have several brands from Hoya, Cokin, Kenco and Leica and honestly I have not paid attention to the difference in qualiity. I have had some of my hoyas for several years and have not seen any peeling or cracking ( I have dropped some of them several times:Scared: ) I guess it really boils down to how many filters you need and what your budget is.

I've always used Nikon L37C filters on all my lenses. It's a UV filter. I primarily use them to protect my lenses. I'd rather be safe than sorry. :) For CP filters, I've used Nikon and Moose. I just recently bought B+W ND filters, haven't used them yet though. There was an instance before I got them that I could have used one so that triggered the purchase. :Grin:

I'm using UV filters for the lenses, preferrably multicoated. A CP is also very important. As of now, the brands I have are Sunpak (will eventually be replaced), Hoya and Marumi. Just recently purchased an ND4 (due to my needs, Sunpak na lang kinuha ko since yun lang available).

By the way guys, for the graduated NDs, ano gamit nyo? yung square filters like that of Cokin and Lee or yung circular pa rin? I'm planning kasi of getting the squares. Mind giving a suggestion where to source this out within Metro Manila?

I'm using UV filters for the lenses, preferrably multicoated. A CP is also very important. As of now, the brands I have are Sunpak (will eventually be replaced), Hoya and Marumi. Just recently purchased an ND4 (due to my needs, Sunpak na lang kinuha ko since yun lang available).

By the way guys, for the graduated NDs, ano gamit nyo? yung square filters like that of Cokin and Lee or yung circular pa rin? I'm planning kasi of getting the squares. Mind giving a suggestion where to source this out within Metro Manila?


They have the square ones in island in gamboa st:)

oh, thanx :-)

I wouldn't know about brand differences but i would suggest getting Coated filters especially the UV filters. My MARUMI coated UV filter has less (almost none) ghosting than my HOYA non-coated UV filter -- kaya I sold it na. I'm also using a HOYA CP MC i got from ebay for a cheapo price. Basta coated, it's worth it.

im using Cokin UV/Skylight1A filters

I use B+W UV Haze MRC Glass Filter. It's very expensive but i decided against putting a cheap filter after spending so much for an L lens. The filter might degrade an otherwise good picture. It proved its worth after absorbing the impact when my zoom lens fell off my backpack onto the pavement. The filter cracked but my lens and camera were ok. The canon service guys were impressed with how the filter protected the lens (couldn't removed the filter bec the ring was dented).

got UV (kenko, tiffen, cokin) on all of my lenses primarily to protect them... though dont have one for my 50mm

and whenever i travel, i cant leave home without my CPL. :Grin:

but i always shoot bare (without the filters - UV/etc.) on studio work:D

got UV (kenko, tiffen, cokin) on all of my lenses primarily to protect them... though dont have one for my 50mm

and whenever i travel, i cant leave home without my CPL. :Grin:

but i always shoot bare (without the filters - UV/etc.) on studio work:D

levi, show them your CP-filtered shots!!! that's levi, the CP-King!

levi, show them your CP-filtered shots!!! that's levi, the CP-King!

@ din

hahaha... im no CP-king! just trying out some stuff with filters=)

when could i try out your NDs??? hehehe

http://www.photo.net.ph/albums/userpics/10608/DSC_9443.JPG


http://www.photo.net.ph/albums/userpics/10608/DSC_8868.JPG

http://www.photo.net.ph/albums/userpics/10608/DSC_8873.jpg

^^^Wow those look wonderful :)

Is there like a guide to where and what purpose each filter does? Cause im not really to familiar with the use of filters. I only have a UV to protect my lens

@ din

hahaha... im no CP-king! just trying out some stuff with filters=)

when could i try out your NDs??? hehehe

http://www.photo.net.ph/albums/userpics/10608/DSC_9443.JPG






this picture is amazing! im inspired

@levi

i don't have any NDs yet... NCs lang (Neutral clear)...

@carlo

levi is the CP-king!!!

Is there like a guide to where and what purpose each filter does? Cause im not really to familiar with the use of filters.

likewise, i have no idea where to begin with filters etc. sana may idiots guide or something

I just have a Circular Polarizer and an ND4. I thought that ND filters came in only one variant so I'm not exactly sure of how many stops an ND4 is equal to. Both are 77mm since the fit the majority of my workhorse lenses.

I just have a Circular Polarizer and an ND4. I thought that ND filters came in only one variant so I'm not exactly sure of how many stops an ND4 is equal to. Both are 77mm since the fit the majority of my workhorse lenses.

The ND4 is equivalent to 2 stops. :) It gets confusing since the manufacturers have 2 ways of labelling. One is by filter grades: 0.3, 0.6, 0.9 and the other is by what they call filter factor: 2x, 4x, 6x which basically stand for the same 1, 2, 3 stops of light it blocks.

Ah so, thanks Rosalie!

.

likewise, i have no idea where to begin with filters etc. sana may idiots guide or something

by rule of thumb, when you need info on anything, google it!!! :-)

here are the first two links that didn't try to sell me filters...

http://shutterbug.com/refreshercourse/lens_tips/101/

http://photography.about.com/od/basics/a/bpfilters.htm

HTH!

Din2 (uhmmm D2X... hahahha... noticed the Din2x in one of the post replies... so, why not D2X... hahahhahaha... puyat lang yan...)

I have a question, I have filters here that havent been used, but apparently already have molds in it. Is there any special solution / solvent I need to use to clean these filters?

i use kenko UV filters. i have kenko on all my lenses. it's my first filter brand and i havent really tried replacing them yet. as previously stated, same, i do get flares sometimes with filters on.

i heard B+W is a nice brand.

i never really thought filters could also grow molds.

Brand wise i don't know - it does'nt matter to me.
I use polarizing, Graduated B1 and B2, graduated ND, ND, warm filters and star filter too.

The important fiters for me are Circ. Polarizer, ND and ND Grad. Having a UV filter is also a must to protect your very expensive lens

Brand wise i don't know - it does'nt matter to me.


i have to agree! :Grin:

but do test your filters first before buying... i had a regular (thick) CPL and it causes vignetting on my 12-24 glass. some lenses requires thinner filters to avoid such problems.

@levi

you know which to buy... brand starts with the letter N. :-)

@levi

you know which to buy... brand starts with the letter N. :-)

@ dindin

hahahaha... you know i cant afford one... probably the one thats starts with an H would be fine for now.. :Grin:

the ones i use now are these Marumi Lens Protect (http://www.marumi-filter.co.jp/international/01_web_en_revB/02_web_en_DHG.html) filters. :D funny name huh?

pare,

its such a dirty name. but do share us where you got the filters.

pare,

its such a dirty name. but do share us where you got the filters.


I got mine from Avenue.

Like Ralf, in Avenue -- via Air21. :)

hi! whats a good infrared filter? are they only for black and white? where is it available locally and how much do they cost. heard they were more expensive than the usual filters.

(btw, i shouldn't be asking this....but is it possible to simulate the IR filter effect in CS2. i've tried the red channel boost approach and have been promptly disappointed.)

I use a Kenko Super Pro 1 UV filter (super multicoated), which I got at Infomax (It's the same as the Hoya Super Pro from Hoya). Expensive but I haven't experienced flare unlike with the cheap Sunpak.

hi! whats a good infrared filter? are they only for black and white? where is it available locally and how much do they cost. heard they were more expensive than the usual filters.

(btw, i shouldn't be asking this....but is it possible to simulate the IR filter effect in CS2. i've tried the red channel boost approach and have been promptly disappointed.)

depends. good ones are hoya r72 or the wratten 89c but these are very expensive. prices range from 4g-8g depending on thread size .anyway you can get monochrome or even colored ir but they still have to be pp in cs2.

as to Photoshop, eveything is possible:)

expensive indeed. where are they available locally? tried island at gamboa pero oct./nov. pa shipment daw.

and there are colored IRs? wow....hmmm....

i know its possible in photoshop....but i just dont know if its as convincing as using a real (and pricey) IR filter....

thanks for the insight!

Check out Thom Hogan's Filters 101 article. (http://www.bythom.com/filters.htm)

Have only a Cokin CP. Does anyone have any experiences with rear mount gel filters? Am thinking of getting one for the Sigma "Popeye" 12-24 lens am planning to purchase.

Question, I've seen several ads for polarizing filters and was wondering if it really does do what the ads say? Commonly a Mount fuji pic complete with haze and with the filter its sharp and clear... Is the effect really that noticable?

Any recommended brands for a polarizer? Price?

Thanks all!

i use any brands for the UV filter. my other filters brand is Cokin ;)

hi randy, based on my experiences a CPL works wonders with reflections and brings out thblues and greens. any brand would probably do, but it's best to get the Multi-Coated ones. :D

hi randy, based on my experiences a CPL works wonders with reflections and brings out thblues and greens. any brand would probably do, but it's best to get the Multi-Coated ones. :D

Cool! Thank chief! I'm planning on going shopping for miscelennaeous stuff next weekend... this filter would be at the top of my list :)

update: CPL Kenko and Fujiyama brands at InfoMax Greenhills = P1800 each... just looked at the price. Didn't get yet...

I use singh-ray ND grads -- 2-stop soft and 3-stop hard reverse ND. For lens protection, I use heliopan uv filters. I haven't used CPs in a long time... too much hassle when used with cokin P holders but I would love to get the singh-ray LB polarizer for cokin P.

Prior to the digital age I used to spend a lot on fancy filters, now what I find useful are MC Poarizers and protectors na lang

I heard Tiffens are not multi coated, i have Tiffens UV and CPL. But most of my filters are Hoya from IR, Close-up filters, Star Six(fun to use), Diffuser(i use it sometimes) and Vivitar Sky IA and UV.

The CPL is most effective when the sun is about 90 deg from your camera position. The ND is used mostly outdoors when sun is up and very bright, say your shutter says 1/4000 you can cut the light by 1,2 or 3 stops, 1/4000 in -3 stops is aat 1/500. This is most useful for blurring water to cut the light and be able to do low shutter speeds. the ND grad is my favorite in landscape where sky is part of the image. Normally, the sky will be several stops brighter and to cut it down so that shadows will be exposed properly the ND grad soft edge is invaluable. I would get the 3 stop or 0.9 if I cold only have one. The cokin P series is highly recommended for ND grads because you can adjust the point of separation easily not like a round one.

where you guys buy your ND's?

I got mine heliopan ND 0.9x from BH Photo online w/ some other stuff. The cokin P ND grad soft edge from island photo also 0.9

I got mine heliopan ND 0.9x from BH Photo online w/ some other stuff. The cokin P ND grad soft edge from island photo also 0.9

Gil Pre! :) Are Heliopans really that good? I've heard so much about them... What's the price difference from a B+W and a HOYA?

hmmm. can't order from BH, no stock in Island. Any other source?

Nino, not sure where else, I order most of my accessories from either BH or Adorama. I heard there is a new distributor for Cokin in Manila have to check.

Earl, heliopan is about same price as B+W and they're multi coated also using Schott glass i think. The rings are real solid and looks unbreakable and glass is easy to clean. hoya is also ok but I prefer either B+W or Heliopan.

Earl, heliopan is about same price as B+W and they're multi coated also using Schott glass i think. The rings are real solid and looks unbreakable and glass is easy to clean. hoya is also ok but I prefer either B+W or Heliopan.

mmmmmmm... I have no complains with the Hoya brand in terms of quality... 'But they just tend to get extremely expensive as well when the "mm/s" rises up... :) If that's the case then it opens up my options to some other considerations... namely: B+W or Heliopan.

Thanks for the info Gil! :Grin:

where you guys buy your ND's?
You can buy the Singh Ray ND Grads at B&H or directly from singh-ray.com
They're much more expensive than the Cokins but don't have the magenta/brown color-cast. Their LB Polarizing filters are very popular as well that there's a backlog of orders.

I hear Hoya filters a lot and would really want to get this brand! Though, I'm currently thinking about Kenko because it's the one available at Infomax when I called awhile ago. Are there any difference between the two? Thanks! :)

What is your preferred filter brand and why?What filters would you say you can't do without and why?

I swear by the B+W filters. I think they are the best filters around (no offense to the Hoya and Cokin users). I got mine from Samy's camera (www.samys.com (http://www.samys.com)) when they had a sale a few months ago. I haven't tried the Heliopans, but I heard they are just great.

I think the 3most important for me are the: polarizers, ND's, and 81B's (dark blue ones). I use the 81B's as a "warm-up" (misnomer) filter to correct White balances when using WB=Auto. I also don't subscribe to the UV=0 filters to be used as protection. :)

how much are the hoya UV filters? and CPs?

I prefer to use Hoya Pro 1 filters, both UV and CPL, because they are multi-coated, are very thin (only 3mm) and still have threads on both sides. Even over here, the cheapest place that I found them was through an eBay seller in HK.

i have a Hoya Pro 1 UV filter really enhances the colors for my main lens and also a normal UV filter for my other lens

how about close up filter? is it different from macro mode? what wil be the difference of the shot?

I used to use Kenko Multi-Coated UV filters before.Then,I tried out a B+W MRC(Multi Resistant Coated)UV filter and got better results .Now,I use B+W MRC UV filters for all my lenses.Maybe,when I get more funds,I might get the B+W Circular Polarizer and Neutral Density filters as well.

COKIN. these filters serves as lifesavers pa even if i know that i can render it in PS. gray skies are not a problem, just put a graduated blue and your done. i also suggest the orange, soft, warm and the spot focus. i suggest the P-series so you can use then whatever the diameter of your lens.

Anyone here who does NOT adhere to protective/UV lens filter use on a DSLR?

i'm using B+W UV filters on all my lenses, also got a B+W 4X ND filter for my
Nikkor 85mm 1.4 lens. btw, that's what my professor recommends...
never tried other filters, so i can't tell if it's really good or what...
would like to try the Hoya UV filter, don't have a filter for my newly acquired
Nikkor 18-55 AF-S DX...
never had a CP filter yet, would like try the Hoya brand also...:)

Nikon, Hoya, Heliopan, B+W. :)

kenko and marumis for me.

Cokin - circ polarizer, ND's, graduated filters

Mga Sir,

Newbie question... What if your going to shoot on the beach with nice green trees and sky with good cloud formation and with plenty of people? Will you use CPL? What will happen to the people's skin tone?

Kind Regards,
Chris

The CPL will darken their skin tone slightly.

sirs and ma'ams.. what is the difference between the neutral-clear and the uv filter?

noob question.. why are the multi-coated filters better?

Sorry, I've never heard of a neutral-clear filter, but UV filters are supposed to reduce the haze from photos.

Multi-coated filters reduce ghosting, flare and chromatic aberrations (CA), among other things. Get yourself a multi-coated filter, you'll thank yourself later.

scratchproof pa

im gonna buy d40 this week.. what the best lens filter for the kit lens? thanks

The best filter (kahit ano, UV or CPL)? My first choice would be B+W, but those are expensive. Next would be Hoya Pro1.

thanks arthur...

thanks guys for all the info here, just reading the past posts got me a lot of info about filters already. :) questions. cp is a circular polarizer? Do all SLRs nowadays use circular polarizers? so the recommended filters that should be bought are the multi-coated ND and polarizing filters, right? ND is not the same with Uv right? Sorry if too many questions. haha. :D Are hoyas good ND and polarizing? how much kaya is it in island photo, if there are any there?

I know there's already an earlier thread for this, pero wala lang, it has so many replies so people might not be reading it anymore. thanks guys for all the info there, just reading the past posts got me a lot of info about filters already.

questions. sorry if there's a lot. I just really want to clarify things. :)

1. cp is a circular polarizer? Do all SLRs nowadays use circular polarizers?
2. so the recommended filters that should be bought are the multi-coated ND and polarizing filters, right?
3. ND is not the same with Uv right?
4. Are hoyas good ND and polarizing? how much kaya is it in island photo, if there are any there?

Thanks for any who will reply. Hehe. I'm such a noob at this. XD

Let me answer them as best as I can.

1a. CP or CPL is circular polarizer (as opposed to linear polarizer)

1b. The use of CPL is really entirely up to the photographer and the situation he is in. If you want to cut down on reflections (from glass, water surface, etc.) and bring up color saturation on a sunny day, you should use one. It generally has little use indoors unless you have plenty of ambient light or you want to cut down on unwanted reflections.

2. Start wih the basics; UV and CPL. If you have situations that you need to cut down light to do some creative work, consider the ND and graduated ND filters.

3. Nope. ND functions like the tint on your car; it basically cuts down light. ND has values corresponding to stops; the higher the number, the darker it is. UV on the other hand only filters ultraviolet rays.

4. Hoya is an excellent choice. I bought mine from Henry's in Hidalgo. Sorry, I don't have a price on the ND filter.

Hoya HMC UV filter: P1,400
Hoya CPL: P2,400

(Prices as of Feb, 2007)

Where can I buy B+W filters - UV and CP?

i don't know if this will help, but for people with 2 or more lenses, with different lens filter diameters..its actually a lot cheaper to get a cokin filter system as opposed to getting similar sets for each lens. i learned this the hard and expensive way.

Could anybody post some shops within Makati or Ortigas area selling Hoya, Heliopan or Tiffen CPL? Tnx!

Could anybody post some shops within Makati or Ortigas area selling Hoya, Heliopan or Tiffen CPL? Tnx!

don't think you can get any hoya or heliopan in makati...tiffen possibly in infomax park square

don't think you can get any hoya or heliopan in makati...tiffen possibly in infomax park square

@Dino, thanks for the reply. Is it available only in Hidalgo? I'll check Infomax later, though I might be able to afford their prices. :(

What's the difference bet UV (0) and UV (n) filters? which would you recommend?(for portrait & landscape)

thanks guys for all the info here, just reading the past posts got me a lot of info about filters already. :) questions. cp is a circular polarizer? Do all SLRs nowadays use circular polarizers? so the recommended filters that should be bought are the multi-coated ND and polarizing filters, right? ND is not the same with Uv right? Sorry if too many questions. haha. :D Are hoyas good ND and polarizing? how much kaya is it in island photo, if there are any there?

DSLRs need a CPL.

Correct, ND filters are not like UV filters, they are similar to a CPL. UV filters, for the most part are clear.

What's the difference bet UV (0) and UV (n) filters? which would you recommend?(for portrait & landscape)

I think they are the same, but I am not certain.

i have a question about polarizing filters: i know it's great outdoors in daylight etc, but what'll happen if you're using it at other times and places? like indoors or in the evening?

i just don't like the idea of changing filters eh, so i was looking at the Hoya website (http://www.hoyafilter.com/products/hoya/gf-05.html) and they have this "hybrid" filter. it's a UV and Polarizing filter combined. what do you think?

I wouldn't use a polarizer in the evening, the filter alone will drop your lens down a stop or two so adding a polarizer will just make things worse. You can use it indoors, maybe if your are shooting through a window at an angle and you want to cut down the reflections that you are getting from the window. I remember using a CPL when I was taking a gondola ride after visiting the "Big Buddha" on Lantau Island in HK. Turning the front element on the CPL completely eliminated the reflections I was getting from the glass of gondola.

I noticed the hybrid filters too, but again, what about at night? I always carry a filter pouch with me to store my filters when not in use.

hi arthur

i checked around with google and yup i read what you just said. oh well. i just don't like the idea of screwing filters on and off on my lens (D40 kit lens) because it's the type of lens where the outermost section rotates when it focuses (hope that makes sense). so parang baka ma-damage yung autofocus motor niya. i guess i wouldn't feel the same way if i were using an IF lens right?
sana meron clip-on type parang yung lens cap hehe :)

I'm using Heliopan ES 72 UV on my 50mm 1.2L. Haven't notice any problem. And it is thick solid brass. My first choice was B &W but it was highly recomended by the shop due to its coating. Price difference between two brands was around $HK50.xx

the filter itself is thick solid brass?

the filter itself is thick solid brass?

Of course only the rim. . . :)

hi arthur

i checked around with google and yup i read what you just said. oh well. i just don't like the idea of screwing filters on and off on my lens (D40 kit lens) because it's the type of lens where the outermost section rotates when it focuses (hope that makes sense). so parang baka ma-damage yung autofocus motor niya. i guess i wouldn't feel the same way if i were using an IF lens right?
sana meron clip-on type parang yung lens cap hehe :)

I am aware of those types of lenses...they are such a PITA when it comes to using a CPL on them! You wouldn't have that problem if it was an IF lens.

However, if you can't get rid of that lens you may want to look into a Cokin (square) filter system.

oh okay thanks guys! i'm wondering though, laki ba talaga the difference if you get the expensive filters? i only have the cheap sunpak UV filter and i was wondering if there's any visible difference if i get the expensive hoya filters

Generally, with the more expensive filters you get more and/or better coatings that will, in essence, improve your photos' image quality.

Do rmember that CPL delivers good results when the sun is at 90 deg angle from your camera position. Stick out your thumb and point it to left or right direction from where you are. Never ever use your CPL at night in events, you will have erratic exposures and it cuts down the light so much confusing your flash exposure also.

aryt thanks guys! :)

Stick out your thumb? My CPLs have a rotating front element with small mark on the rim and that you are supposed to point that mark towards the sun.

Stick out your thumb? My CPLs have a rotating front element with small mark on the rim and that you are supposed to point that mark towards the sun.

Hi Arthur..I did not know that!!!:Thinking: R U refering to the Hoya brand of CPL?..becoz mine is a Hoya brand and it does have a white marker on the outer rotating ring..any way thanks for the tip:)

My Hoya CPLs have it as well as my Sigma CPL.

My Hoya CPLs have it as well as my Sigma CPL.

Thanks. I see have U have both Hoya and Sigma CPL...I almost bought a Sigma CPL but opted for a Hoya.BTW: based on UR experienced which is better a Hoya or a Sigma CPL? :)

They are both very similar, but I will take the Hoya over the Sigma because it has a better build quality...if you shake the Sigma, it sounds like something is loose, either the glass in the assembly or the actual frames/rings themselves.

They are both very similar, but I will take the Hoya over the Sigma because it has a better build quality...if you shake the Sigma, it sounds like something is loose, either the glass in the assembly or the actual frames/rings themselves.

Thanks Arthur...Sigma CPL filters is quite new here in Manila. Cannot find one in Hidalgo-Quiapo...except at JT Photoworld w/c is the authorized dealer of all Sigma lens and other Sigma products:)

hi guys, how can you tell if the filter's genuine? i did a google and read some forum discussions about fake UV filters that failed UV tests

Buy from a store that you trust.

that's pretty obvious.

i'm still pretty new to photography so i'm still feeling out stores.

to the other guys: what store do you trust? (in manila) i'd like to get a nice filter

Infomaxx. :)

I read one discussion in DPReview that said to place a UV filter on a piece of white paper and see if it had a yellow or pinkish tinge to it. I always thought UV filters were clear and anythng with a colour tinge is a warming or a skylight filter.

i visited infomaxx before and it looks like a nice shop! but it's expensive there right?

hey guys i just posted this in the general photography section and i found out that i'd get "ghosts" when using my UV filter in some situations like below:

http://static.flickr.com/205/473518396_a0c32d9216_d.jpg (http://flickr.com/photos/65909666@N00/473518396)

http://static.flickr.com/175/473518290_736da42d53_d.jpg (http://flickr.com/photos/65909666@N00/473518290)

http://static.flickr.com/183/473533473_1c9e4fc459_d.jpg (http://flickr.com/photos/65909666@N00/473533473)

http://static.flickr.com/224/473519072_9b93a58854_d.jpg (http://flickr.com/photos/65909666@N00/473519072)

i'm currently using a cheap sunpak filter. will getting those more expensive multi-coated UV filters get rid of these "ghosts"?

Try someone else's filter first before going out to buy one. Or even, let someone else use your filter to see if they get this on their camera. Because of the green reflection, I am almost certain that it is filter.

Incidently, I just bought a Hoya Pro1 UV(0) filter and a CPL from my eBay source for my new lens. It cost me $100US for both filters shipped from HK, but UV filter alone, if I bought it locally would have cost me $100CDN.

How would you know that your filter is a good quality and built? aside from the brand? Because I have these filters (UV, PL, FLD) that I used in my my P&S cam before. Since I've not bought one yet for my D40, I plan to use it muna. Btw, the brand is Opteka. Here's the link: http://www.opteka.com/productdetail.asp?productid=4142

Honestly, until thing like the "green ghost" shows up on your photo or after you look at your photos very, very closely (beyond a 100% crop), I wouldn't be too worried about the quality of your filters. Go ahead and use the Opteka filters.

Most of the money you spend on high end filters goes to the R&D, the quality of the glass used, the thinness of the filter and the number of coatings on the glass.

Okay, thanks arthur. I'll be trying these filters this morning. I'll be doing nature shooting. I'm signing-off. :)

Try someone else's filter first before going out to buy one. Or even, let someone else use your filter to see if they get this on their camera. Because of the green reflection, I am almost certain that it is filter.

Incidently, I just bought a Hoya Pro1 UV(0) filter and a CPL from my eBay source for my new lens. It cost me $100US for both filters shipped from HK, but UV filter alone, if I bought it locally would have cost me $100CDN.

i'm pretty certain it's the filter, the 1st and 3rd shots are shots w/o the filter and 2nd and 4th are with the filter (the ghosts!) :(

Hi Diego, I, too, get those flares and I'm using Hoya standard filters. Now I'm curious to know if the same things happen to the more expensive Pro1D's or UMC's. Can somebody using these share your experiences?

http://static.flickr.com/175/473518290_736da42d53_d.jpg



yes, this is because of your filter. a friend of mine experienced this with his 50mm lens fitted with a UV filter. we initially thought it was his lens because there were no green flares when he used mine. but then i remembered, my 50mm doesn't have any filter on it. so upon taking out his len's UV, true enough, the flares were non-existent.

Hi Diego, I, too, get those flares and I'm using Hoya standard filters. Now I'm curious to know if the same things happen to the more expensive Pro1D's or UMC's. Can somebody using these share your experiences?

Nope, nothing like that with my Pro1's.

okay i guess i should invest on those more expensive pro1 lens filters :)

Thanks Arthur. So Pro1D it is. :)

@Oliver,

Do have any idea about the price of the Pro1D filters, I plan to get an ND4 and a CPL. Thanks:)

Hi Red, I'm not sure. Brian of EchoGrafika told me last time that he had filters coming in. You might want to text him, 917-8254838.

As for me, I'm getting most of my small items in Singapore. Cheaper by a few hundred bucks. :)

@Oliver,

Thanks bro:)

hi red what's an ND4 filter? :)

An ND4 filter is a neutral density filter. There are typically 3 kinds, #2, #4 and #8. Neutral density filters look like a CPL but do not have the polarizing effect and they are missing the rotating front element of a CPL. ND filters force you to stop down your lens, but allow you to shoot longer exposures even in bright days.

oh cool thanks arthur!

does stopping down your lens means decreasing the size of the aperture? so you'd want this neutral filter if you want to take longer exposures but your minimum aperture size is not enough?

It decreases the amount of light entering the lens/slows down the lens.

Using an ND filter will produce this effect to water:
http://www.hickerphoto.com/data/media/170/natural_waterfall_t1024.jpg
You wouldn't be able to do this without it, especially if it is a bright, sunny day (the brighter the day, the darker the ND filter you use). You can use this for other subjects, anything where you want to capture some sort of motion blur.

wow that's an awesome shot! so you can't take that shot even if you decrease the size of your aperture in a really sunny day huh? hmm galing these filters ah

Remember, if you decrease the size of your aperture, you change the DOF, the ND filter lets you shoot wide open.

oooh ya nga pala noh! when your aperture's open your DOF is shallower right? hmm cool!

You got it!

anyone familiar with fujiyama filters? are they any good

not much information i can see from the net, i found one hongkong site, and quite expensive (for me) around 500HKD for a 67mm CPL, is it worth the price.


http://www.it2100.com/index_ecat.php?cPath=70

can i ask where it'd be a good place to shop for filters? i'm looking to buy a nice multi-coated UV and a nice CPL :) i don't know my way around quiapo much, i've only been to Henry's and Mayers

Directions would be also be helpful, i'll be coming from the Carriedo LRT station :)

@diego,

Here's a map made by randall when i asked him. hope this helps :D

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/192/455413969_75f625a51c.jpg
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/192/455413969_75f625a51c.jpg)

@randall,

Thanks again for the map

wow galing ah! thanks big time buddy :)

Anyone know where I can buy graduated blue filters?

P.

Can anyone give a range of Hidalgo prices for Hoya, B+W and Cokin Circular Polarizers and ND filters for 77m Lens?

Thanks :D

@diego,

Here's a map made by randall when i asked him. hope this helps :D

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/192/455413969_75f625a51c.jpg
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/192/455413969_75f625a51c.jpg)

@randall,

Thanks again for the map

Damn! You mean to tell me that I didn't even go the the camera stores that everyone talks about? I only went to the "other camera stores". Too bad, I guess I will have to go back to Hidalgo the next time I return to Manila! :Grin:

oh okay thanks guys! i'm wondering though, laki ba talaga the difference if you get the expensive filters? i only have the cheap sunpak UV filter and i was wondering if there's any visible difference if i get the expensive hoya filters

it matters i would think. the quality of the glass and built is different.

why would you stick a piece of cheap@ss glass over your expensive nikon/canon lenses? :Grin:

some lenses like 60mm micro (nikon) needs protecting filter, because of the way it was build. seems to me that dusts can easily go inside. try to rotate the focus ring..

i dont have anything in front of my 28-70mm which is my daily work horse..

it matters i would think. the quality of the glass and built is different.

why would you stick a piece of cheap@ss glass over your expensive nikon/canon lenses? :Grin:

some lenses like 60mm micro (nikon) needs protecting filter, because of the way it was build. seems to me that dusts can easily go inside. try to rotate the focus ring..

i dont have anything in front of my 28-70mm which is my daily work horse..

yup thanks, that's what everyone's been saying :)

i'm going to look around quiapo soon for a nice CPL, i'm interested in getting a Hoya :) i'll also look for a multi-coated UV :)

thanks guys!

why would you stick a piece of cheap@ss glass over your expensive nikon/canon lenses? :Grin:



You can also think of this way, why would you want an expensive piece of glass exposed to the environment? :)

On filters, I just got my B+W UV filter and put it on my 18-200mm. No more flares unlike the Hoya that I bought before. Looking through it , para'ng wala'ng glass kahit at a slight angle, ang linaw. Kaso the thing is heavy due to the brass ring.

You can also think of this way, why would you want an expensive piece of glass exposed to the environment? :)

true. hence if you must, then spend a bit more and get better grade filter. otherwise, you are just wasting the good quality glass you have with your expensive lens on a cheap piece of filter.

for my 28-70mm 2.8 the hood is enough protection during shoots. otherwise, the lens cap should do its work.

for my 12-24, the lens hood is very short, hence the ultra thin uv filter (most used in landscape anyway)

for my 60mm, its really to help prevent dirt from entering the barrel.

for my 85mm, it came with the lens :)

On filters, I just got my B+W UV filter and put it on my 18-200mm. No more flares unlike the Hoya that I bought before. Looking through it , para'ng wala'ng glass kahit at a slight angle, ang linaw. Kaso the thing is heavy due to the brass ring.
What kind of Hoya Filter did you use? was it the new multicoated series?

kuya arthur este kuya bong pala! what kind of filters i can buy for me?:)

I cant live without my UVHaze filters primarily. I dont want my glass to get scratched up primarily. I also have ND Filters. I have several brands from Hoya, Cokin, Kenco and Leica and honestly I have not paid attention to the difference in qualiity. I have had some of my hoyas for several years and have not seen any peeling or cracking ( I have dropped some of them several times:Scared: ) I guess it really boils down to how many filters you need and what your budget is.

Replying to a post that's at least a year old! =b Anyway...

Do you get color casts when using you Cokin ND filter?

I saw a "soft" filter from Canon. Has anyone here tried using it? Is it worth it?

P.

A "soft" filter seems too gimicky. Just use a Photoshop filter.

kuya arthur este kuya bong pala! what kind of filters i can buy for me?:)

UV, CPL?

A "soft" filter seems too gimicky. Just use a Photoshop filter.

Thanks. It's worth P1000+ and I was a bit skeptical about buying it. Again, thanks.:)

P.

A "soft" filter seems too gimicky. Just use a Photoshop filter.



UV, CPL?

whacha think?
i guess UV muna:)

Invest on a good UV filter, had underexposures with generic ones (just my experience)

ok thanks!:)

where can i buy GND filter except island in gamboa? july pa daw shipping. :(

where can i buy GND filter except island in gamboa? july pa daw shipping. :(

ok thanks!:)

Ah OK, I thought you wanted me to buy it for you...hehehe.

A "soft" filter seems too gimicky. Just use a Photoshop filter.



UV, CPL?
Soft Filters and even soft lenses were in vogue during the pre digital era, they use it to soften details in portraits and some landscape scenes, this effect can also be duplicated using vaseline spread on clear filters like UV

whacha think?
i guess UV muna:)

There seems to be a two schools of thought on UV filters. Some say its for protection, while others say its useless. I believe the latter. I subscribe to this principle more:
http://www.bythom.com/filters.htm

Ah OK, I thought you wanted me to buy it for you...hehehe.


wow! sponsor?! how much ba dyan? and then maybe you can send it to my cousin at long beach, ca.

There seems to be a two schools of thought on UV filters. Some say its for protection, while others say its useless. I believe the latter. I subscribe to this principle more:
http://www.bythom.com/filters.htm

thanks for the link! anyways, i will read that when i get the time! :)

A friend lent me a Tokina UV filter, I've already tested this out and found nothing anomalous from the pictures I took.

I bought a Kenko CPL, which I will be testing on the weekends.

A friend lent me a Tokina UV filter, I've already tested this out and found nothing anomalous from the pictures I took.

I bought a Kenko CPL, which I will be testing on the weekends.

Hi Ronald,

How much did you get your Kenko CPL filter and in what shop in hidalgo? Im planning to get one later.

mga sir, mga magkano ang 58mm CPL?

newbie question: which do you prefer, round or square filters??? pls compare the prices... kht circular polarizer lang (first option ko)...tnx

mga sir, mga magkano ang 58mm CPL?

Hi guys...sorry to butt in. As much as possible get the best CPL lens that your money can buy. Belive me....I also got this advice from the masters here at DPP. I have a Hoya 72 mm CPL for my 18-200 mm VR. Previously I was hesitant to buy it bcoz it cost me P3,200 from Henrys...but I was not disappointed...the Hoya CPL filter is VERY GOOD. You can view my sample shots using the Hoya CPL at this link:http://www.digitalphotographer.com.ph/forum/showthread.php?t=5866. ( the pictures says it all) Good day to you:)

Hi guys...sorry to butt in. As much as possible get the best CPL lens that your money can buy. Belive me....I also got this advice from the masters here at DPP. I have a Hoya 72 mm CPL for my 18-200 mm VR. Previously I was hesitant to buy it bcoz it cost me P3,200 from Henrys...but I was not disappointed...the Hoya CPL filter is VERY GOOD. You can view my sample shots using the Hoya CPL at this link:http://www.digitalphotographer.com.ph/forum/showthread.php?t=5866. ( the pictures says it all) Good day to you:)

Hi Diego is that the Pro1 version?

mga sir, mga magkano ang 58mm CPL?

hoya cpl 58mm - P2,400 @ henry's

hoya cpl 58mm - P2,400 @ henry's

Hi Cocoy, is that the multicoated ones? And do you happen to know if we have those B+W filters locally (Hidalgo). Thanks a lot:)

hoya cpl 58mm - P2,400 @ henry's

Thanks sir! :Grin:

Hi Diego is that the Pro1 version?

Im not sure..it does not show in the packaging:)

Im not sure..it does not show in the packaging:)

Thanks Diego. I'm looking for a good filter and I want to get the multicoated ones since most of the guys recommends it:)

Im not sure..it does not show in the packaging:)

What does it say around the outside of the filter ring? What colour is the packaging?

What does it say around the outside of the filter ring? What colour is the packaging?

Hi Arthur this is the pix of the packaging side by side with filter. At the side of the filter it says: HOYA 72 mm PL-CIR JAPAN. At the packaging it says; made by Tokina Co., Ltd, Japan. I bought it from Henry's @ P 3,200

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a290/jigsdoh/Miscellaneous/DSC_0436R.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a290/jigsdoh/Miscellaneous/DSC_0438R.jpg

sa presyong ganyan dapat MultiCoated na, but did not mention, maybe because it's 72 mm

Hi Arthur this is the pix of the packaging side by side with filter. At the side of the filter it says: HOYA 72 mm PL-CIR JAPAN. At the packaging it says; made by Tokina Co., Ltd, Japan. I bought it from Henry's @ P 3,200

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a290/jigsdoh/Miscellaneous/DSC_0436R.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a290/jigsdoh/Miscellaneous/DSC_0438R.jpg

I think its not the Pro1 version. The Pro1 version has a marking outside the ring filter. I'm not sure but I think only the Pro1 is the multicoated version of Hoya. Correct me if Im wrong here.

@Arthur,

Any inputs or feedback about Marumi multicoated CPL filters? Also if I have, lets say 2 lenses of different thread size, do you recommend buying 1 CPL for each thread size or just get the CPL with the bigger thread size and get myself a step down ring? My concern about the latter is that I wont be able to use the lens hood for my 67mm thread sized lens if I use the 77mm filter with step down ring. Loking forward to your reply. Thanks:)

I think its not the Pro1 version. The Pro1 version has a marking outside the ring filter. I'm not sure but I think only the Pro1 is the multicoated version of Hoya. Correct me if Im wrong here.

@Arthur,

Any inputs or feedback about Marumi multicoated CPL filters? Also if I have, lets say 2 lenses of different thread size, do you recommend buying 1 CPL for each thread size or just get the CPL with the bigger thread size and get myself a step down ring? My concern about the latter is that I wont be able to use the lens hood for my 67mm thread sized lens if I use the 77mm filter with step down ring. Loking forward to your reply. Thanks:)

Hi Red... where can I buy this step-down ring adaptor. I wanna use my 72 mm Hoya CPL filter on my 52 mm kit lens. U know the kit lens is sharp! Im still using it for landscapes especially when I feel lazy to carry a heavy load. Thanks in advnce.:)

Hi guys,

I bought a CPL from Quiapo, went to almost all of the shops but no Hoya, Tiffen or the likes only the cheap sunpak at P900, haven't tried it yet though. Hope it does work for a newbie like me. I read an article that the rotating ring of the CPL should be adjusted while composing the photo until the best view is achieved... i just want to share that as I was wondering why the front ring rotates...

because, you screw it infront of your Lens, you can experiment this using your Polarize Sunglases, rotate your sunglases and the polarizer will not effect the view, you need to get the desired effect before you take your shots (so you need to rotate the front ring),

For example, your shooting from the top of the Sea Ocean (and you wanna see the fish under the water), you need to rotate you Filter so you can take out all of glare from the surface of the water.

Ahhhh:Thinking: ... ang hirap i-explain:Sick: ,,,,by the way meron ka naman CPL,try mo na lang:D

@Chito

Ok naman ba ung 900 CPL?

@Diego, I'm sad to say that is filter is from Hoya's standard line - the filter is built in Japan but the glass is uncoated. The HMC line, the one just above their standard line, has 5 coatings. The other lines above that, the Super HMC and the Super HMC Pro1 both have 5 coatings. The Ultra-thin UV+CPL filters have 5 coatings. The filters with green labels on the box (made in the Philippines) have no coatings whatsoever.

Going from lowest to highest (or thinnest):
Green - Philippines - no coatings
Blue - Japan - no coatings
Grey - Japan - 5 coatings
Black (Super HMC) - Japan - 7 coatings
Black (Super HMC Pro1, thinner than Super HMC) - Japan - 7 coatings
Red (ultra-thin UV+CPL on one filter) - Japan - 5 coatings

@Red, CPLs can be expensive, especially if you don't have access to eBay. I've used step-up rings in the past, but only for using a CPL filters, never a UV. All of my lenses have their own UV filters even if I have other lenses with the same filter size (just my preference). If you are concerned about not being able to use your lens hood, use your hand to shade the front of the lens. Chances are you will be shooting on a bright day (hence the need for a lens hood). A bright day would mean a fast shutter speed, so camera shake will about zero, therefore you can use one hand to shoot and the other to shade the lens. Of course one CPL in the various sizes of your lenses would be ideal, but when life gives you lemons, make lemonade. I am not too familiar with Marumi filters, sorry.

@Chito, take a look at the edge of the rotating portion of your CPL, there should be a dot. The rule of thumb is to have that dot point towards the sun/lightsource. This will maximize the polarization effects of the CPL.

@Diego, I'm sad to say that is filter is from Hoya's standard line - the filter is built in Japan but the glass is uncoated. The HMC line, the one just above their standard line, has 5 coatings. The other lines above that, the Super HMC and the Super HMC Pro1 both have 5 coatings. The Ultra-thin UV+CPL filters have 5 coatings. The filters with green labels on the box (made in the Philippines) have no coatings whatsoever.

Going from lowest to highest (or thinnest):
Green - Philippines - no coatings
Blue - Japan - no coatings
Grey - Japan - 5 coatings
Black (Super HMC) - Japan - 7 coatings
Black (Super HMC Pro1, thinner than Super HMC) - Japan - 7 coatings
Red (ultra-thin UV+CPL on one filter) - Japan - 5 coatings

@Red, CPLs can be expensive, especially if you don't have access to eBay. I've used step-up rings in the past, but only for using a CPL filters, never a UV. All of my lenses have their own UV filters even if I have other lenses with the same filter size (just my preference). If you are concerned about not being able to use your lens hood, use your hand to shade the front of the lens. Chances are you will be shooting on a bright day (hence the need for a lens hood). A bright day would mean a fast shutter speed, so camera shake will about zero, therefore you can use one hand to shoot and the other to shade the lens. Of course one CPL in the various sizes of your lenses would be ideal, but when life gives you lemons, make lemonade. I am not too familiar with Marumi filters, sorry.

@Chito, take a look at the edge of the rotating portion of your CPL, there should be a dot. The rule of thumb is to have that dot point towards the sun/lightsource. This will maximize the polarization effects of the CPL.


Hi Arthur....thanks for your comments. I guess I have to content with it. Actually there are NO good CPL available in Hidalgo. I was looking for a good pro-grade version of B& W, Sing & Ray or Hoya in Quiapo...but all they can give me is this one...and it even cost me P 3,200 for it ( $ 69). They said they don't carry expensive brands becoz there is seldom a demand for it. I have to buy the Hoya ASAP bcoz I have to use it in my vacation in Boracay. Pls comment on my pictures in Boracay and tell me if I got a genuine version of the Hoya CPL: pls clik on this link:http://www.digitalphotographer.com.ph/forum/showthread.php?t=5866 I was also advice that as much as possible I should stay away with Sunpak, Tiffen, Marumi and Cokin brand. Can U also pls tell me where can I buy step-up or step-down rings. I plan to use my filters with my other lens. Its not practical having expensive filters in all your lenses. Thanks again:)

@Diego, nothing wrong with those photo, they look fantastic! If you see ghosting on your photos, even with the CPL, attach the lens hood or shade your lens from the sun with your left hand, or even shoot from the shade. But again, those are great photos.

I would have to agree with the advice you received regarding Sunpack and Tiffen filters. Marumi, I have not had any experience with so I cannot comment. I don't like the Cokin brand personally, because I don't like their filter system.

Hi Red... where can I buy this step-down ring adaptor. I wanna use my 72 mm Hoya CPL filter on my 52 mm kit lens. U know the kit lens is sharp! Im still using it for landscapes especially when I feel lazy to carry a heavy load. Thanks in advnce.:)

Hi Diego,

I'm not really sure but from what I read before in the thread you can get a step down or step up adaptor at hidalgo. Better check with Randal Cipriano where did he get his, I think he got it from Avenue or 24K foto:)

@Red, CPLs can be expensive, especially if you don't have access to eBay. I've used step-up rings in the past, but only for using a CPL filters, never a UV. All of my lenses have their own UV filters even if I have other lenses with the same filter size (just my preference). If you are concerned about not being able to use your lens hood, use your hand to shade the front of the lens. Chances are you will be shooting on a bright day (hence the need for a lens hood). A bright day would mean a fast shutter speed, so camera shake will about zero, therefore you can use one hand to shoot and the other to shade the lens. Of course one CPL in the various sizes of your lenses would be ideal, but when life gives you lemons, make lemonade. I am not too familiar with Marumi filters, sorry.


Thanks for your inputs about this, this helps a lot especially to us newbies. I think I'll get a filter for every thread size that I have but not for every lens. Actually I'm not going to get it right not now since I only have 1 lens, hehehe:D

Thanks Arthur, thanks Red:)

Hi Diego,

I'm not really sure but from what I read before in the thread you can get a step down or step up adaptor at hidalgo. Better check with Randal Cipriano where did he get his, I think he got it from Avenue or 24K foto:)
That can cause vignetting di ba?

Hi guys....just got myself a " step-up" adaptor ring for my 72mm Hoya CPL. Now I can use my Hoya CPL 72 mm with my 52 mm "kit lens" and with my "nifty-fifty". I got it from Avenue and cost only P 280 ( Konica). Now I don't have to buy a separate filters for each lens I have.

Just a question...in case I buy an ND4 filter size 52 mm ( w/c is much cheaper tha a 72 mm ND4 fiter) can I use a step-down ring adaptor so I can use the filter with the 72 mm ring of the 18-200 mm VR lens? Will this cause vignetting? :(

That can cause vignetting di ba?

Not really sure bro, have'nt tried using one:)

Just a question...in case I buy an ND4 filter size 52 mm ( w/c is much cheaper tha a 72 mm ND4 fiter) can I use a step-down ring adaptor so I can use the filter with the 72 mm ring of the 18-200 mm VR lens? Will this cause vignetting? :(

Congratulations Diego, its a good buy:) I think ur pertaining to a step up ring so that you can use your 52mm filter to fit the 72mm thread sized lens? How much does the ND4 cost in Avenue and what brand is it:)

Any step down ring will cause vignetting, sometimes severe vignetting. Remember, your lens is larger than the filter that you are going to attach.

Congratulations Diego, its a good buy:) I think ur pertaining to a step up ring so that you can use your 52mm filter to fit the 72mm thread sized lens? How much does the ND4 cost in Avenue and what brand is it:)

Actually the sales clerk at Avenue keep referring to it as step-up:Thinking: .....nakakalito nga!?#. But you know what?....When I attached the step-up 72 mm ring adaptor to my kit lens... my kit lens looked "mean and intimidating". It look like a professional lens..."gwapo and macho looking". ..he...he...he. The ND4 is Sunpak...not yet available....maybe next week....@ P1,300...Im hesitant to get one...some says Sunpak is not a reliable brand.

@ Arthur... I think UR right. It may cause some vignetting if I apply it the other way around. Just a wild imagination of mine:)

what kind of filter would i need for all around usage, whether indoors or out, for protection na rin. the ones that i dont need to remove from the lens anymore.

Actually the sales clerk at Avenue keep referring to it as step-up:Thinking: .....nakakalito nga!?#. But you know what?....When I attached the step-up 72 mm ring adaptor to my kit lens... my kit lens looked "mean and intimidating". It look like a professional lens..."gwapo and macho looking". ..he...he...he. The ND4 is Sunpak...not yet available....maybe next week....@ P1,300...Im hesitant to get one...some says Sunpak is not a reliable brand.

@ Arthur... I think UR right. It may cause some vignetting if I apply it the other way around. Just a wild imagination of mine:)

Sunpak, hmmm.... I also read somewhere that its not that good. I think I'll get either a Hoya or a Cokin ND and GND filter. I'll get the Marumi for my CPL. I emailed Marumi in Japan and asked if the DHG filter series are multicoated and they told me that it is.

BTW, what made you decide to get the ND4?

what kind of filter would i need for all around usage, whether indoors or out, for protection na rin. the ones that i dont need to remove from the lens anymore.

A UV(0) filter.

A UV(0) filter.

thanks for your reply Arthur. any multi coated UV filter would be okay right? what does (0) mean?

Yes, basta multi-coated. The (0) means that it is clear, not tinted.

what kind of filter would i need for all around usage, whether indoors or out, for protection na rin. the ones that i dont need to remove from the lens anymore.
I recommend the Marumi MC lens protector

HELP!

I just got myself a B+W CPL. I was told that if I rotate the filter, the shots would have different effect. But I can't seem to see it. Am I doing something wrong?

P.

Peterson,

Congrats! B+W CPL's are one of the best in its kind (along with SinghRay). I have one myself and won't regret.

Your CPL works optimally when its 90degs from the sun. In other words, make a gun with your finger. Point your thumb towards the sun, then point your lens with the CPL at that direction then try to rotate your CPL and you'll see the difference (experiment with different rotations of the CPL).

Going back to the rule of thumb, if the sun is 12noon, obviously it works optimally in all direction. When the sun is in the west, then it works at dead North.... Got it? No night and no sun? Don't use a CPL (it gives -2 to -3 stops).

Yum, B+W. Nice!

Peterson, read this article on CPLs...article (http://www.cs.mtu.edu/~shene/DigiCam/User-Guide/filter/polarizer.html)

Bought a cheap CPL in Hidalgo for 700 bucks. The polarizing effect works but the pics are a bit soft.

@Melvin and Arthur: Thanks guys. Phew! I thought my CPL was busted! Haha! B+W filters are fairly expensive though... But fortunately for me, this was given to me as a pasalubong! Hehe...

P.

rainy days are here and rainclouds are in the sky. Ok....what is the best filter to use on cloudy days to enhance portraits or landscapes?...or, is there such a filter or do you need to use one. Thanks:)

rainy days are here and rainclouds are in the sky. Ok....what is the best filter to use on cloudy days to enhance portraits or landscapes?...or, is there such a filter or do you need to use one. Thanks:)

Good question Diego. I've actually asked that before and Pilar told me to use a Graduated filter during the rainy seasons:)

@Diego, I'm sad to say that is filter is from Hoya's standard line - the filter is built in Japan but the glass is uncoated. The HMC line, the one just above their standard line, has 5 coatings. The other lines above that, the Super HMC and the Super HMC Pro1 both have 5 coatings. The Ultra-thin UV+CPL filters have 5 coatings. The filters with green labels on the box (made in the Philippines) have no coatings whatsoever.

Going from lowest to highest (or thinnest):
Green - Philippines - no coatings
Blue - Japan - no coatings
Grey - Japan - 5 coatings
Black (Super HMC) - Japan - 7 coatings
Black (Super HMC Pro1, thinner than Super HMC) - Japan - 7 coatings
Red (ultra-thin UV+CPL on one filter) - Japan - 5 coatings

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Hi Arthur... I got good news. I swap my previous Hoya CPL for A Hoya Pro 1 CPL. Henry of Hidalgo was kind and considerate enough to allow me to swap it and I paid the difference of 200 pesos only. ( A Hoya Pro 1 CPL is P 3,400). I return the old CPL in a mint condition after 3 weeks of use. Thank you Henry...you're very kind and considerate. Below is the Hoya Pro 1 CPL 72 mm

So..what do you think did I got the CORRECT one? Thanks in advance

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a290/jigsdoh/Miscellaneous/DSC_0530edited.jpg

@Diego,

Wow thats quite cheap for a pro 1. So they do sell those, hmm thank God I did'nt get the marumi yet. Hope they have a 67mm thread sized pro1. Thanks a lot for the info:Grin:

@Diego, good job! That must be the new packaging, but to my eye it looks right. The "digital" filter we get here are all by Kenko (Hoya's sister brand).

A Hoya Pro1 CPL for P3400? Parahong size? That's cheap! A 62mm Pro1 UV filter costs $100CDN (retail)!

@Red, bili na!

@Arthur,

I will definitely get one, a big thanks to Diego, i just hope they have the 67mm thread size:)

@ Arthur...yah it is P 3,400 or $ 74 for a 72 mm CPL. BTW: how much is the exchange rate between the $ CDN to the peso?

@ Red...Pls do hurry. There is a fresh batch of Hoyas at Henrys...UVs, CPLs and NDs filters. I pre-ordered a Hoya ND2 and ND4... at the moment they dont have the 72 mm ND2 and ND4 filters.:)

@ Arthur...yah it is P 3,400 or $ 74 for a 72 mm CPL. BTW: how much is the exchange rate between the $ CDN to the peso?

@ Red...Pls do hurry. There is a fresh batch of Hoyas at Henrys...UVs, CPLs and NDs filters. I pre-ordered a Hoya ND2 and ND4... at the moment they dont have the 72 mm ND2 and ND4 filters.:)

@Diego, the exchange rate is around $1CDN to P42.

Yes, basta multi-coated. The (0) means that it is clear, not tinted.

how about UV (N), what does N mean?

Non-coated? :d

how about UV (N), what does N mean?

My guess would be "neutral", meaning uncoloured which is the same as a (0) designation.

Leandro brings up a good point. Read the packaging carefully. If the packaging says nothing about being coated or multi-coated, it isn't.

it's multicoated also

like this one

http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Hoya-HMC-UV-N-Multi-Coated-UV-Filter-55MM_W0QQitemZ120121736429QQihZ002QQcategoryZ67353 QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

It's an HMC filter, so no confusion there, MC stands for multi-coated. That means that the N stands for neutral.

bought a Hoya Pro1 CPL filter 67mm, but im afraid that the lens cap can scratch the CPL because of the low profile frame of the filter :Scared:

bought a Hoya Pro1 CPL filter 67mm, but im afraid that the lens cap can scratch the CPL because of the low profile frame of the filter :Scared:

What do you mean? what lens are you using and where did you bought your pro1? thanks:)

@Dexter, what most people are concerned about when using a super thin filter is whether or not the lens cap will stay on. Don't be too concerned about scratching the filter with your lens cap.

What do you mean? what lens are you using and where did you bought your pro1? thanks:)

im using nikkor 18-135 mm, bought here in Taiwan around 2600 PhP. because of the ultra thin filter frame of the CPL, the lens cap might touch the glass of the filter

im using nikkor 18-135 mm, bought here in Taiwan around 2600 PhP. because of the ultra thin filter frame of the CPL, the lens cap might touch the glass of the filter

Hi Dexter...Is it 2600 Php for an 18-135 mm????...thats CHEAP!!!:Thinking: You got a cost-effective lens there

@Arthur

yeah im worried about that too, i have a hard time putting my lenscap on the filter because im extra careful not to touch the glass :)

or am i doing wrong, :Grin: do you guys put your lens cap on when using your CPL? :)

@Diego, yes thats 2600 Php, camera accessories are much cheaper here

@Diego, yes thats 2600 Php, camera accessories are much cheaper here

Well in that case..I like to do my shopping there. An 18-135 mm in Hidalgo is around 15-16 K. How much kaya ang Nikkor 105 mm f 2.8 Macro VR. Thanks in advance:)

@Arthur

yeah im worried about that too, i have a hard time putting my lenscap on the filter because im extra careful not to touch the glass :)

or am i doing wrong, :Grin: do you guys put your lens cap on when using your CPL? :)

I honestly do not worry about scratching the glass with my lenscap as the filter can easily be replaced. If it does scratch it will be right next to the edge, next to the rim. If the filter vignettes, you may see some scratches after several years, if not, then don't even worry about it.

@Dexter

I don't think the lenscap can scratch the filter that easily especially if you have the good-branded ones. I think it's safer to put on the lenscap rather than your lens and CPL exposed with no protection.

Well in that case..I like to do my shopping there. An 18-135 mm in Hidalgo is around 15-16 K. How much kaya ang Nikkor 105 mm f 2.8 Macro VR. Thanks in advance:)

oops my mistake, i meant 2600 PhP for the CPL not the lens itself:Grin:

is there anywhere locally where you can get good GND filters aside from the cokin filters in island? tnx

Hi guys...got another query. Is it okay to stack multiple filters in a lens??? I have a habit of always placing my CPL on top of my UV filter without noticing it. Thanks in advance:)

@ deigo

They say its a no-no, but as far as my experience I am stacking my UV and CPL also. And it has no effect yet on the pictures. I experienced flaring on my photos, but that is not due to the stacked filters but due to my cheap UV filter. Guess its time to upgrade my UV filter.

ehehehe! all this filters and stuff are making me dizzy... :Shock:

how many kinds of filters are there? can someone give a list and their uses? :Dum: hehehe :Grin:

http://photofilter.com/images/Kenkchart1.jpghttp://photofilter.com/images/kenkochart2.jpg

I'll let someone else explain what each one does. :D

Seriously though, many of the filters are carry overs from film days. With PS and other image editing tools, you only need a few.

some always say to stack your filters according to its cost - the more expensive the nearer the lens...so cpl first then uv...simply because if you hit something, the cheaper UV filter gets the brunt...

but i guess this will apply to those occasions when you intend to use a cpl for a long period of time...

thanks Arthur :) ill just copy and save the chart...

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(daydreaming) still waiting for the explanation for each use... hihihi :D

for the pros and knowledgable ones,

What filters cannot be reproduced in Photoshop?

some always say to stack your filters according to its cost - the more expensive the nearer the lens...so cpl first then uv...simply because if you hit something, the cheaper UV filter gets the brunt...

but i guess this will apply to those occasions when you intend to use a cpl for a long period of time...

how many filters can you stack in one lense? :Dum: sorry...noob here...

i saw a pic sa net and stacking a 2nd filter on top of another made a shadow-like image in the corners of the pic... was it because the 2nd filter is much smaller than the one close to the lense? :Dum:

If I have to stack filters, I will stack the CPL on top of the UV. My UV filter is lens protector so it virtually never comes off the front of my lens. I will use the CPL filter when I am shooting outdoors or if I have to shoot through glass. You will use a UV filter more often than an CPL. (OT: I attended a wedding to day and I saw a guy with a DSLR using a CPL inside the church. Why? It was dark enough inside, so why stick a CPL on the front of your lens to make it even darker?)

@Karl, I wouldn't stack more than two filters at a time, even the thin filters. More than two will guarantee vignetting.

@vic, my guess would be the CPL and any of the neutral density filters (well, the blurred water that you can get with an ND filter).

for the pros and knowledgable ones,

What filters cannot be reproduced in Photoshop?
THe CPL and ND Filters
The others are just museum pieces from the film era
Invest on an expensive brand of CPL or a lens protector
Some pros even frown on the use of CPL

THe CPL and ND Filters
The others are just museum pieces from the film era
Invest on an expensive brand of CPL or a lens protector
Some pros even frown on the use of CPL
You can also add the graduated filters

Regarding lens filters, a little advice from a newbie who owns a UV and a CPL, I also borrowed a friends ND filter. From our last outing , I rarely had the chance to use the CPL, I had more use of the ND filter (Shooting Landscapes). I had the chance to use the CPL when eliminating reflections from water (but I seldomly used it during the outing).

What's my point? Research first, if you are to buy filters (or maybe anything). Research your subject so you could put that extra cash to good use. Now, I am trying to save up for ND filters (ifind it more useful than my CPL). Or, if you have friends who has filters, borrow them first, test it first before buying.

Don't jump into the impulse of because you read this was needed or this was good, you'll buy it already. Just sharing.

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Hi Guys, haven't been here for quite sometime... Thanks by the way for all the tips.....I still have to try if the cheap sunpak CPL I got from Quiapo works! :-) Hope to keep you posted.

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wow! thanks Arthur! :Grin: :)

@Chito, good luck with that one.

@Karl, no problem. I'm here to help.

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Hi Arthur..rainy days and cloudy days are now here in Manila. I know that in Toronto ( I used to live there for 5 yrs) 9 mos in year are always cloudy and overcast sky...especially during winter. What filter do U recommend during overcast and cloudy skys. I heard that skylight filters do the job. Is it true? Thanks in advance:)

Personally, I don't use a filter during those types of days aside from the UV filter that is "permanently attached". I usually end up shooting in B&W. :D You can try a skylght filter, a +1, or if you already have PS or another photo editing software you can do something in post.

Guys.

Just an FYI. Went to Hidalgo this morning, Henry's has lots of new stocks of Hoya filter, ranging from different sizes

i have a kenko CPL and it doesn't say it's multicoated. i tried it out and it works well (but i have no other CPLs in experience). big diff ba if it's multi-coated for the CPL?

is it not recommended to mount one filter over another?

@diego, if it works for you then don't look any further. The extra coatings will just reduce/eliminate extra glare or ghosting that may appear.

@vic, it's not a rule, but it is not advised since doubling up on filters may cause vignetting in your photos.

have anyone tried quantaray lens filter?
specifically their Multi-Coated UV and CPL..