View Full Version : Who proofreads DPP?
edwin.arceo 10-10-2006, 03:51 PM To the editors,
I don't mean to be rude or trying to be a know-it-all but I find so many typo and grammatical errors on every issue of DPP and with the parent magazine, Digital Photographer.
I've nothing to say about the quality of the magazine, it's superb! I've been a buyer of Digital Photographer ever since I stumbled upon it and I have all issues of DPP except #4. With issue #5 i've already stumbled on at least five errors. I hope that you guys can improve further by minimizing all those errors. I've even emailed Digital Photographer in the UK but did not get any response though.
God bless you!
Edwin Arceo
Manager
IT and Creative Services
CBN Asia, Inc.
www.cbnasia.org (http://www.cbnasia.org)
David Tong 10-10-2006, 04:23 PM Hmm, if the local copy wants additional editorial help (no charge hehe, basta reasonable timelines), drop me a PM, I'll be glad to help... (Tech Writer/Editor by day here.)
Nick Tuason 10-10-2006, 05:11 PM Edwin,
Thank you for the message. For some reason typos and grammatical errors always get through the cracks. We thought we were minimizing this already but they keep coming up. If we don't get Issue #6 right 100% then its time to get a new proof reader.
Your comments are valuable. Thank you for reading the magazine.
@David Tong- we may take up your offer. :)
To the editors,
I don't mean to be rude or trying to be a know-it-all but I find so many typo and grammatical errors on every issue of DPP and with the parent magazine, Digital Photographer.
I've nothing to say about the quality of the magazine, it's superb! I've been a buyer of Digital Photographer ever since I stumbled upon it and I have all issues of DPP except #4. With issue #5 i've already stumbled on at least five errors. I hope that you guys can improve further by minimizing all those errors. I've even emailed Digital Photographer in the UK but did not get any response though.
God bless you!
Edwin Arceo
Manager
IT and Creative Services
CBN Asia, Inc.
www.cbnasia.org (http://www.cbnasia.org)
Earl Gonzalez 10-10-2006, 05:12 PM OT: Edwin (Arceo), your name sounds familiar... :)
Does Ingenium ring a bell? :)
edwin.arceo 10-10-2006, 05:21 PM Nick,
Thanks for understanding. I posted this as a way of challenging your editorial staff to push themselves more.
Edwin
Edwin,
Thank you for the message. For some reason typos and grammatical errors always get through the cracks. We thought we were minimizing this already but they keep coming up. If we don't get Issue #6 right 100% then its time to get a new proof reader.
Your comments are valuable. Thank you for reading the magazine.
@David Tong- we may take up your offer. :)
edwin.arceo 10-10-2006, 05:22 PM Dear Earl,
No it does not ring a bell. I'm also from Marikina (well my wife is).
Edwin
OT: Edwin (Arceo), your name sounds familiar... :)
Does Ingenium ring a bell? :)
Earl Gonzalez 10-10-2006, 05:28 PM Dear Earl,
No it does not ring a bell. I'm also from Marikina (well my wife is).
Edwin
I see Edwin, must be a different Arceo then... Sorry for the confusion Bro. :Grin:
john_patrick 10-17-2006, 03:34 PM at least the printing is nice
patrick uy 10-19-2006, 10:26 PM the magazine is definitely world class and at par with the foreign edition. Keep up the good work, its about time locals have a magazine that is affordable and worth keeping. The printing is excellemt. And the quality of the paper stock you use is definitely not cheap --from Finland right? Just love the feel of good paper stock at my fingertips!
patrick
jon-jone_javier 10-21-2006, 04:18 AM Thank you for the message. For some reason typos and grammatical errors always get through the cracks. We thought we were minimizing this already but they keep coming up. If we don't get Issue #6 right 100% then its time to get a new proof reader.
Your comments are valuable. Thank you for reading the magazine.
@David Tong- we may take up your offer. :)
Hi Nick, Like David I'd like to chip in in ridding away some of the mag's typos and errors. Unlike David, however, I dont belong to any fancy media or press organization, although I used to proofread for another magazine. This remains your prerogative however. I'd be happy to help in ways I can.
maris lim 11-28-2006, 10:51 PM i've noticed a typo with the sept-oct issue too. but other than that i think the mag is excellent. :) it's at par if not better than some international photography magazines i've bought so far.
Yuri O. Oira 01-17-2007, 08:52 PM di pa ako nakakakita ng copies ng DPP magz. pero sa narinig ko. pede nang iexport yan paisa-isang daan sa saudi.
basta walang nudity yung issues ha. :-)
MelvinSevilla 01-31-2007, 09:32 PM @ Oympus Users,
I'm not sure if this is a misprint or something about Olympus (because it appeared twice on the same page).
I'm looking at the buyer's guide particularly on the "Top Lenses" on page119 of Dpp Issue#8, both Olympus lenses featured are a bit off.
The Max Apperture = f4, whereas the lens is a Olympus 50-200 F2.8-3.5 same goes for the 18-180 F3.5-6,3
Mount = Sigma, Canon, Nikon, etc. for an Olympus lens(???) not sure if this is true...Just got a bit confused if Olympus systems are really like this or its just a gross misprint on both lenses.
justinventura 03-20-2007, 10:46 AM alot of typo errors on this issue as well.
having worked in a travel magazine, i have also experienced this problem. one way we were able to control it was by having more than one person proof read (artist, writer, editorial assistant, editor, editor in chief) and repeating this process up to the test print. it's a tedious process but the effort stops a problem that will ruin a really good photo or article.
just sharing an experience that might help.
Jose Narboada 04-13-2007, 05:23 PM Just bought Issue #10 last night dito sa Ayala Cebu. Again, same with the previous issues (7,8,9), and just by quick scanning of the contents, I already caught at least 3 typo/grammar issues. I expect to catch more this weekend...
jerrytieng 04-13-2007, 05:30 PM A lot of the product pricing are incorrect also. But what do I know about magazine publishing huh?
nino_carandang 04-13-2007, 05:36 PM A lot of the product pricing are incorrect also. But what do I know about magazine publishing huh?
YGPM my friend.
mark_imbong 05-03-2007, 05:51 PM just got my issue 11 today, and after looking through the pages (great issue guys!), i spotted an editing error on your page that featured camera phones - page 116.
for each of the 4 SE phones you reviewed, instead of placing the talktime, you indicated the unit's price. but personally, i place more value on the price instead of the talktime.:Grin:
Oggie Ramos 05-03-2007, 06:21 PM got a copy of the u.k. version by accident and spotted typos. if the u.k. guys commit these oversights, why don't we cut some slack for the local dpp :Grin:?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/oggie
http://www.oggieblog.blogspot.com
http://www.lagalog.multiply.com
Erick_Magpili 05-03-2007, 06:29 PM got a copy of the u.k. version by accident and spotted typos. if the u.k. guys commit these oversights, why don't we cut some slack for the local dpp :Grin:?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/oggie
http://www.oggieblog.blogspot.com
http://www.lagalog.multiply.com
Two way thing as i see it.. magazine patrons give feedback on errors/typos, DPP positively hears them out, and eventually eliminates it/or further minimize it perhaps.. We get top-notch publication, we further spread the word.. DPP gets more patronage. Everybody happy..
Cheers!
mark_imbong 05-04-2007, 01:14 PM while i did post a typo i saw in the most recent issue, such minor errors have not, and will not, prevent me from patronzing the magazine in the future.
these are all very forgivable oversights on the part of the editors. in the bigger scheme of things, no damage was done on the reliability and image of the mag. editors are human too, and will be prone to these kinds of mistakes.
but if they are glaring and significant errors on content, then the editors should really pay more attention to their output.
Raffy Crucillo 11-01-2007, 08:03 AM Just some items I noticed in issue number 16.
Referring to the contenders section in the Olympus E-510 review:
Pentax K10D: Despite the hefty price tag, you can buy one of these from the local deal under PhP50,000...
Nikon D80: Current price was mean that you can pick up one of these brilliant cameras for only including the rather excellent 18-70mm lens. The build quality on the D80 is probably class leading, and the sensor robbed from the D200 does equally well. However, the Olympus offers higher specification and overall better image quality.
Referring to the review of the D80, I think this was a time when the proofreading should have really been done. The review didn't make sense because of the typos. In my opinion, the use of the word "robbed" further adds a negative light to the review (is it a bad thing that it's using the same sensor as that of the D200?).
DondiNolasco 11-01-2007, 09:17 AM OFF-TOPIC
Speaking of errors, I noticed that one of the typographical mistakes here has been around a long time and none of the administrators/moderators/proofreaders seemed to have noticed nor corrected it:
Forums ----> Specialized Digital Photography -----> Sports and Action Photograhy
aaron ebio 11-01-2007, 11:38 AM --- the lens's price on the last 3 pages after the product review. the ones featured on the sides of each page. they havent changed !!! can they somehow feature other lenses every month.
JOHNDEEYU 11-02-2007, 03:27 PM There are some price errors in almost all issues of DPP.
Issue #16 buyers' guide pg 120 says P44,950 for Canon 400D while it is around P39,500 only at all DZONE outlets. Pg 117 says P849 for Kingston Datatraveller mini usb drive 1GB while it's only P520 and P885 for 2GB.
Even though Canon 400D has its own thread here for the latest market price, can't help but wonder why it's still has a wrong price on the mag.
But other than price errors I still consider DPP as my best collection.
Norman_P._Aquino 11-04-2007, 01:30 PM I have a feeling the bad English on this forum has rubbed off on whoever wrote that piece. I'm sure the DPP folks are doing something about it.
Nikon D80: THE current price MEANS that you can pick up one of these brilliant cameras for only [insert price here], including the rather excellent 18-70mm lens. The build quality OF the D80 is probably IN A CLASS OF ITS OWN, and the sensor BORROWED from the D200 does equally well. However, the Olympus offers higher specifications and better image quality overall.
About prices, these are different everywhere. A magazine may provide one just to give its readers a general idea.
Cheers,
Norman
paulrefuerzo 11-04-2007, 10:11 PM OFF-TOPIC
Speaking of errors, I noticed that one of the typographical mistakes here has been around a long time and none of the administrators/moderators/proofreaders seemed to have noticed nor corrected it:
Forums ----> Specialized Digital Photography -----> Sports and Action Photograhy
same goes with "Accessories & other Equipments"
Aris Guerrero 11-05-2007, 06:44 AM same goes with "Accessories & other Equipments"
one may actually use Equipment or Equipments, depending on how one uses it in a sentence. and since it was just a title to a Section, it may be in a plural form Equipment.
ie, I have lots of camera equipment.
nino_carandang 11-05-2007, 07:33 AM There are some price errors in almost all issues of DPP.
Issue #16 buyers' guide pg 120 says P44,950 for Canon 400D while it is around P39,500 only at all DZONE outlets. Pg 117 says P849 for Kingston Datatraveller mini usb drive 1GB while it's only P520 and P885 for 2GB.
Even though Canon 400D has its own thread here for the latest market price, can't help but wonder why it's still has a wrong price on the mag.
But other than price errors I still consider DPP as my best collection.
The prices are correct. All prices are SRP not street prices. We don't publish street prices.
Vin DelaPena 11-05-2007, 07:47 AM i've read this thread before i read #16 so while reading the mag, i was unconsciously looking for typos and found some, though they're very insignificant ones and obviously just typos rather than the writers' grammatical/spelling errors.
one thing i remember is "wildest" lens instead of "widest" in the 20 wedding tips.
filtering out the typos will further improve the mag's already top-notch quality.
Norman_P._Aquino 11-05-2007, 08:49 AM one may actually use Equipment or Equipments, depending on how one uses it in a sentence. and since it was just a title to a Section, it may be in a plural form Equipment.
ie, I have lots of camera equipment.
The plural of equipment is equipment, not equipments. In the English language, it is considered a mass or uncountable noun, whose form is always singular.
danpagulayan 11-12-2007, 07:52 PM http://www.digitalphotographer.com.ph/forum/images/icons/icon3.gif Thought only:
Would DPP editors consider it a good idea of forming a vetted pool of reviewers to whom DPP may parcel out articles of future volumes for review? The objective to to enable DPP to catch and rectify potential syntax, typo, spelling, factual (ie, technical data) errors before such article sees print.
hochi_abaya 11-12-2007, 08:06 PM The plural of equipment is equipment, not equipments. In the English language, it is considered a mass or uncountable noun, whose form is always singular.
just like luggage and luggages ... :)
Raph Garcia 12-26-2007, 12:42 PM just like advices hehe
Can i have some advices on how many luggages i should bring for all my equipments?
hehehehehehehe
David Tong 12-26-2007, 02:34 PM Equipment is correct, not with an "s"... Neither the creative or technical aspects of writing uses equipment with an "s".
We can say "pieces of equipment" but not equipments... neither should you use "informations".
If you must specify that it's a solitary piece, then it's a "single piece of equipment" or "a piece of equipment".
mike_serrano 12-28-2007, 11:58 AM di ko alam kung para dito itong question ko, but still-- how come ang tagal mag approve ng image pag nag upload? thanks
David Tong 12-28-2007, 12:51 PM @mike: wrong thread hehe.
mike_serrano 12-29-2007, 10:41 AM @mike: wrong thread hehe.
@david, copy :Grin:
Happy New Year.
tembanaria 12-29-2007, 11:28 AM DPP can also look at the way copywriting is handled and by what standards. This is especially true for articles that are heavy on technical materials.
The overall presentation of the magazine is nearly excellent but for these typos. What needs to be addressed are the grammatical compositions wherever needed.
I love the magazine and enjoyed the trips to the bookstore during the long wait for issue releases. Actually enjoyed the suspense as to when it would be released.
:Grin:
Norman_P._Aquino 01-01-2008, 12:05 PM Folks, since we're in a thread discussing grammar, we have to use the English language correctly if we have to preach about it.
Neither is used with nor, either is used with or. So,
"Neither the creative [N]or technical aspects of writing USE (aspects is plural and should use a plural verb) equipment with an "s." [period is always inside a quotation mark]
And
"What NEED (plural verb to go with the plural noun compositions/errors) to be addressed are the grammatical [errors].
Speaking of syntax,
"Would DPP editors consider it a good idea [to form] a vetted pool of reviewers..."
Cheers,
Norman
David Tong 01-01-2008, 12:22 PM Norman hehe, good point... need to type slower :P
markrgitol 01-04-2008, 02:47 PM Folks, since we're in a thread discussing grammar, we have to use the English language correctly if we have to preach about it.
Neither is used with nor, either is used with or. So,
"Neither the creative [N]or technical aspects of writing USE (aspects is plural and should use a plural verb) equipment with an "s." [period is always inside a quotation mark]
And
"What NEED (plural verb to go with the plural noun compositions/errors) to be addressed are the grammatical [errors].
Speaking of syntax,
"Would DPP editors consider it a good idea [to form] a vetted pool of reviewers..."
Cheers,
Norman
And perhaps we can also make some effort to observe proper use of capitalization and punctuation, as well as to avoid the use of contracted words as if we are texting or chatting. This is a forum, we don't compose replies in two or three seconds like we do when we are chatting. And of course, let us not forget the language of communication in this forum. Through these simple ways, we can make our posts more readable and understandable. Gaining the respect of foreigners is just a bonus. Just my opinion. :)
Melwyn B. Alamag 01-31-2008, 08:38 AM hmm found something sa January issue. page 41. on the photo caption, its Ariel Villasanta not Maverick and page 107 re: Petal hood - "stowage" hth
tina mallari 08-12-2008, 08:49 AM oooopsssssieee I made a boo-boo :) how the heck am I suppose to just delete this - HEhEHehEhe shuckssss :Grin:
georgearquitola 09-30-2008, 07:01 PM i suggest that there should be errata section of the future magazine where they can justify errors found in the previous publication.
David Tong 09-30-2008, 09:17 PM I don't think that's necessary for spelling or grammar, only for descriptive content inaccuracy.
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