I found this site ......

http://www.shootsmarter.com/DSLRshootout.html (http://www.shootsmarter.com/DSLRshootout.html)

Nice link Gil! Salamat Pre! :D

Wow... I don't really know what those stats mean but wow...

Both the Top and Bottom seeds are taken by DSLR's manufactured by the Big C! Interesting! :)

Very informative site. I read it. Thanks.

Gil, thanks for sharing the link.

Exactly my sentiment when I saw some pics taken with the S3. Ganda nga ng skin tone quality with it. Compared to the neutral skin tone if taken with the 1Ds Mark II. But wow, I haven't tried using a 5D yet and it's the one that ranks the highest ha? Hope I get to meet somebody soon who has one.:Grin:

I wonder why they compared dSLRs rather than lenses or camera-lens combination. I think the process do not really speak of the most effective way of achieving pleasant skin tones since they are only using one type of lens (the Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 in this case). Sometimes, lens and camera body combination matters (e.g. match the Canon 30D with a Canon 100mm USM macro or the new Canon 50mm f1.2 and it might give a different kind of skin tones). I would suppose that lighting used was also uniform... each camera (and sensors) react differently on a particular lighting condition.

One further experiment I can think of right now is... use the top result as a basis (e.g. the photo taken with the Canon 5D + Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8), change the settings of all the other dSLRs, allowing other lens combinations as well... would it be possible to come-up with the same quality of skin tones achieved by the Canon5D-Tamron combination? If so, then perceived pleasant skin tone is not monopolized by one camera alone, but can also be achieved by other cameras (and lenses) at a pre-defined setting.

Nonetheless, I see the 5D as a lead in this particular experiment since it has a full-frame sensor... will accommodate more dynamic range. It would be interesting to see how a Pentax K10D (with its 22-bit A/D/ converter) would perform in such a situation.

I am 100% happy with the skin tone of my 5D. I noticed that right away when I downloaded the first time. (besides the amazing full frame) Even with jpg capture.

I wonder why they compared dSLRs rather than lenses or camera-lens combination. I think the process do not really speak of the most effective way of achieving pleasant skin tones since they are only using one type of lens (the Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 in this case). Sometimes, lens and camera body combination matters (e.g. match the Canon 30D with a Canon 100mm USM macro or the new Canon 50mm f1.2 and it might give a different kind of skin tones). I would suppose that lighting used was also uniform... each camera (and sensors) react differently on a particular lighting condition.

Hi Joe, precisely the reason why they used a 3rd party lens and calibrated all the lenses prior to the test. The shots were jpegs thus the test will show the quality of the sensors and in camera processing for this type of shot.

One further experiment I can think of right now is... use the top result as a basis (e.g. the photo taken with the Canon 5D + Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8), change the settings of all the other dSLRs, allowing other lens combinations as well... would it be possible to come-up with the same quality of skin tones achieved by the Canon5D-Tamron combination? If so, then perceived pleasant skin tone is not monopolized by one camera alone, but can also be achieved by other cameras (and lenses) at a pre-defined setting.




Nonetheless, I see the 5D as a lead in this particular experiment since it has a full-frame sensor... will accommodate more dynamic range. It would be interesting to see how a Pentax K10D (with its 22-bit A/D/ converter) would perform in such a situation.

Yes but the EOS 1D is also a full frame .....

Quick Question:

Was the cameras chosen randomly or were they chosen because they were the most popular with wedding photographers and the like?

Thanks in advance! =)

Quick Question:

Was the cameras chosen randomly or were they chosen because they were the most popular with wedding photographers and the like?

Thanks in advance! =)

Tok, looks randomly... And might be based on popularity as well; but there was no mention about it, if it was based on wedding photogs. input or what... :)

Thanks for sharing the link Gil. Now this confirms another reason why am saving up for the 5D :)

welcome lester .........

I'm surprised at the results - aren't Nikons supposed to be better than the Canons for skin tones?

Anyway, thanks for the link!

I'm surprised at the results - aren't Nikons supposed to be better than the Canons for skin tones?

Anyway, thanks for the link!

The site is sponsored by Canon! :D hehehehehehehe... smile C people... :)

@Gil_Penaflorida
Hi Joe, precisely the reason why they used a 3rd party lens and calibrated all the lenses prior to the test. The shots were jpegs thus the test will show the quality of the sensors and in camera processing for this type of shot.
They only used one lens in this particular test and used the same jpeg settings for all cameras. Would it matter if the settings were different for each camera to achieve the same "skin tone" which they perceived as "pleasant?" Simply put, the particular camera setting they've used provided the best "pleasant skin tone" using the C-5D with the Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 lens.

Yes but the EOS 1D is also a full frame.....
Sorry, didn't notice that one... but how come the result was different from the C-5D? Obviously, a change in image processor made the difference. Again, it also proves my point that camera-lens-processor combinations will yield different outcomes.

Nonetheless, I still wouldn't consider said test to be decisive and objective. By the way... their perceived "pleasant skin tone" only demonstrated one particular kind/color of skin tone. Would it matter if they used a black-skinned or white-skinned model? Would it matter if the finished product was printed in black&white/grayscale? Skin colors vary, and rating a perfectly "pleasant skin-tone" would entail some form of cultural judgement.

Again, as end-users, we need to learn how to delineate between sound judgements and marketing surveys. In the end, the final outcome would be how we should react on such tests and surveys that would eventually determine how we will spend our hard-earned $$$ in the pursuit of perfecting our craft.