Opinions please ....

I thought Lomo cams were inexpensive?

imho i think its just a fad

I thought Lomo cams were inexpensive?

Depends on your point of view :D

I personally consider the multi-colored Holga to be a bit expensive.

But I consider the price I paid for a Horizon to be a bargain :D

Cheers!

Jo Avila

i always thought lomos were a niche sort of thing. they appeal to some, but not to all. as for price, its just like anything else; some are expensive, some are not.

it is not....

i think it is.. i like my holga, though.

Whatever bloats yer goat... as what Melvin said, it's a niche thing. Overhyped? How so? Much the same way why almost everywhere you look, there's someone with a DSLR? Most DSLR owners have a Canon or Nikon, but does that make them "overhyped"? (I think not.) As for being overpriced, like what Melvin said, there are expensive ones and there are cheap ones....

So IMHO, it is not...

What's the purpose of the op? Just curious. Are you interested in trying out lomography? Do you have a specific camera in mind? some are indeed expensive but expensive is relative. Some dont mind the expense as long as the satisfaction they derive from it is proportional. Some haven't even tried it and yet dissed it already. So just like everything else, it is subjective.

Others like it, others don't. If you like it then you wont find it overhyped, if you don't then you'll find all sorts of fault in it. Kinda like the Canon vs Nikon thing. Each camp's die hards clain the other side is overhyped. So I guess the bottom line is WHAT is your take on it and HOW do you feel about it. :)

im monitoring this thread closely. i feel that there will be a disturbance in the force soon.

nino it will probably be even more disturbing if some other members of a certain forum swing by and look at this particular thread :P

I don't think it's overhyped. The lomo cams do live up to what they're supposed to do. The notion of overhyping seems to stem from the "cool factor" lomography is enjoying right now. And because more and more people are getting into it, lomo and its derivative forms are just getting more and more popular.

From a commercial standpoint, I think some cameras are being overpriced like the LC-A, one of LSI's flagship cameras whose supply they locked exclusively and effectively gave them the power to jack up prices. Holgas too, but I'm not sure if Holgas are sold exclusively by LSI.

But from a photographer's standpoint, especially when contrasted to the price of hi-fi cameras, if a camera were to deliver proportionate gratification to its price then I guess that's good pricing.

In the end, it's just getting your money's worth with the price you paid for. By using it!

Depends on who you ask...

My two cents, "walang agawan ng trip" (trans. to each his own). Like pointed out in earlier posts, even this "dSLR" thing is a fad... at least for some (my wife hopes not for me :D). Expensive? Could be. But again, what's expensive to some ain't for others.

IMHO, the question is like, Starbucks: Overhyped and overpriced? :)
My answer to both questions: Wouldn't mind buying if I had the money to spend.

I feel that the medium of lomography is not overhyped (uhmm, is there a photographic type that is?), neither is it overpriced (it costs the same as film, so do you consider film shooters overhyped?).

I do feel that plastic Holgas are overpriced... But that line of cameras doesn't solely control the lomography scene... You can get cheap Russian cams off eBay for less than the price of two AA batteries.

I don't get the purpose of the question as well, sounds more like a flame bait.

No offense to the thread starter, but where did you stumble upon the term "lomography"?

Lomography has been around for quite awhile now. Its only in recent years that it has entered mainstream consciousness. But believe me its there. Its already 'hyped' up with a lot of people for quite sometime. But now (for some reason I don't know), a lot of wanna-newbies (i don't want to say Wannabees or poser) are trying it out, hence you see a lot of people carrying around Holgas, ActionSamplers, Fisheyes or even Seagulls.

Hype means that it peaks and eventually dies. Overhype simply means its fueled to a certain level of being over-rated by its users. When posers and wanna-newbies move on to the next 'big thing', real photographers and "lomographers" will continue on (while I can see the posers smirking at real lomographers and saying, 'been there, been that... that is soooo 2008!')

Can people say that the recent raise of Macbooks or iMac user is an overhype? I mean its there for quite sometime (way before some of us were born - Apple computers!), it JUST ENTERED MAINSTREAM CONSCIOUSNESS! Same thing with badminton. Indonesia has been raking gold medals and trophies in badminton way before there has been a badminton craze. Yet some people think the badminton is just a 'fad'.

Lets not mistake the social culture of copy-catism with 'fads'. Fads are Tamagotchis and laser-pointer keychains. I don't think lomo falls in that category.

Finally, lets remember:
JUST BECAUSE LOMOGRAPHY, LOMO, HOLGA, LCA, ETC. WAS RECENTLY ADDED TO YOUR VOCABULARY DOESN'T MEAN ITS A FAD OR HYPE!!!

Just MHO. :)

I feel that the medium of lomography is not overhyped (uhmm, is there a photographic type that is?), neither is it overpriced (it costs the same as film, so do you consider film shooters overhyped?).

I do feel that plastic Holgas are overpriced... But that line of cameras doesn't solely control the lomography scene... You can get cheap Russian cams off eBay for less than the price of two AA batteries.

I don't get the purpose of the question as well, sounds more like a flame bait.

With being overpriced... I have to agree that its a bit overpriced here in the Philippines. I've seen shops in the US that sells Holgas for less than 18usd. I mean the whole idea of LCA's or Holga was meant to be really cheap. But due to some good ol fashion marketing by the Lomographic Society International, some Lomos cause more than a very good P&S camera....

Also agree... This is flame bait (and we're falling for it)... Heheheh

Melvin: That's what I mean... Cams made with pure plastic and supposed "intentional" defects that are made in my home (HK/China) shouldn't carry such a high price tag heheheh.

supply and demand brothers :)

hush the none believers!!! hush!!!

i don't think it's over hyped :D hehehehehehe

i just feel that some of the lomo noobs are posers :D hehehehe because it's the "in" thing nowadays. actually it's the same as the dslr trend now :)

i don't think it's over hyped :D hehehehehehe

i just feel that some of the lomo noobs are posers :D hehehehe because it's the "in" thing nowadays. actually it's the same as the dslr trend now :)

i have to agree with you on that one.. hehe.:D

i just feel that some of the lomo noobs are posers :D hehehehe because it's the "in" thing nowadays

SPOT ON!!! nyahahahaha...:Evil:

imho...

i guess its not that overhyped. it's IN. because of the growing popularity here in the Philippines. especially that newspapers here have been featuring lomography in their respective special articles.

overpriced? eherm...i guess there are lomopushers who sell their products a little bit higher than other lomopushers. then i have to say that it becomes overpriced.

Where's the OP???

Where's the OP???

Exactly, that was why I asked in my post found in page 1 regarding the intentions of the OP. I hope he didn't just dropped a bomb to create a stir but is truly , sincerely on a quest to know about lomography. Or he could just be busy and have no time to post.

i think spammy meant something like this

"oohhh i love the nice funky colors, how do i get that?"

Exactly, that was why I asked in my post found in page 1 regarding the intentions of the OP. I hope he didn't just dropped a bomb to create a stir but is truly , sincerely on a quest to know about lomography. Or he could just be busy and have no time to post.

this is why i didn't even bother giving an opinion on this thread. i felt that he was just trying to get someone's goat.

If it's a fad or overhyped, then it's no different from the DSLR hype we're getting.

LONG LIVE FILM! (wala lang :) )

There are different facets of lomography. If we are strictly speaking of lomography as using LSI cameras, yes, some are expensive but expensive is relative to the buyer. For some, buying the newest Porsche in town is very expensive but for others, it's like buying a new toy. Expensive is really relative to what you can afford. A 3000 peso Holga might be expensive for some but for others, it's not that bad.

Overhyped? It has been there since before. People outside the "Lomo" world might see this as a fad that would dissipate in a couple of years but for true believers, they would see this as a way of life.

Lomography as a way of life.

On another end of the spectrum, the whole lomography revolution is a way of life. It's a photographic revolution of "just shoot don't think" attitude. Lomography has often been associated not just with the tools that we use nor the results that we produce but with the attitude that we portray. Of course, the results speaks louder than this whole attitude/way of life thing meaning, a lot associate lomo with the over-saturated and vignette photographs that the camera produces.

In light of this, some lomographers extended lomography to using non-LSI cameras.

So, when it comes to the overpriced argument, I have a vivitar camera that costs around 100 pesos. I am using my dad's old Yashieca electro-35 GSN and my mom's rangefinder which older than me. A lot of lomo-holics buy used cameras in ukay-ukay. If 100 pesos is expensive for you, log-off now and don't even bother thinking of going into photography.

Over-hyped? Again, this is a way of life for true lomo believers. A wanna-be lomographer might drop this "fad" in a couple of months but for true believers, this would last a life time. like someone here said, "to each his own"

Since I'm known to just quote and share links...I'll quote some more:

From Juan Caguicla

"The camera, like any tool in a toolbox has its uses, and being intrinsically simple, the Lomo is suited for, well, very limited use. I have seen well executed toy camera photographs that are pretty fucking good, this is usually not due to the camera mainly but the person that uses it. The problem arises when a whole mess of people seem to think that they are capable of taking equally breathtaking shots just by using the same (toy) camera without understanding the various technical intricacies and vision that most probably has been employed in taking the great photograph they are trying to emulate (*see rip-off). While that thought may not be completely untrue, largely due a thing called luck (photography is democratic that way), it is by no means a reason to completely bypass the effort of actually learning the craft of photographing if one is so inclined to pursue photography in general sense."

To read the whole blog entry http://lazyjuan.blogspot.com/2008/04/analog-analogies-lomo-lomohan-loko.html

I have yet to see someone here who actually owns a real LOMO...

i don't think it's over hyped :D hehehehehehe

i just feel that some of the lomo noobs are posers :D hehehehe because it's the "in" thing nowadays. actually it's the same as the dslr trend now :)

Yeah like Otep. Right Donna Lee?

But I won't lie, I'm starting to love my vivitar uw&s. Vivitarography!!

@vicoy - they're just around. preferring not to expose their expensive "lomo" toys (whatever that means) :)

@tammy - traitor!

I have yet to see someone here who actually owns a real LOMO...


I have a lot of LOMO in the freezer... hindi ba karne yun? (isn't it lomo's meat?:P)

harhar...moving on...

Yeah like Otep. Right Donna Lee?

But I won't lie, I'm starting to love my vivitar uw&s. Vivitarography!!

hehehe!! I also like my vivitar :Grin:
thanks for posting the link of lomo-lokohan.

I have yet to see someone here who actually owns a real LOMO...


Is this real enough for you Vicoy? :)

Lomo LC-A Refurbished unit ) Made in the USSR 1986 :) (although i returned it already due to a sticky shutter defect and replaced it with a LC-A+ with original russian lens made in the original Lomo factory :) )
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2399/2119008879_3683237ab6.jpg

Wait for Joseph Barreto's collection, Now there you will see lotsa "real" lomos :)

naks go koya daniel... show em the almighty perrrrfekt as well :)

Is this real enough for you Vicoy? :)

Lomo LC-A Refurbished unit ) Made in the USSR 1986 :) (although i returned it already due to a sticky shutter defect and replaced it with a LC-A+ with original russian lens made in the original Lomo factory :) )

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2399/2119008879_3683237ab6.jpg
Wait for Joseph Barreto's collection, Now there you will see lotsa "real" lomos :)

That's what I'm talking about!

Check the bottom, though. There are Chinese made versions of this, available at Lomography.com. Several chinese made LC-As are being passed-off as Russian. The best source is still 2nd hand from Russia. Look for the SMENA Lomos.

http://ukrainianfair.com/AUCTION/16.04.08/s8-6.jpg

http://www.tupyce.host-24.pl//P3301036.jpg

Notice how it says LOMO on the lens... I'm no connoisseur, but these are the true Lomos. People may get great lomographic shots on other cameras, but nothing beats the fulfillment of getting your shots out of the real deal, right?

Good luck for those who are about to begin their search... :)

I think Donna has a Smena as well... They're not that expensive in eBay, though... Funny thing is, most Holga plastics are 3x pricier than the orig Russians hehe .

I think Donna has a Smena as well... They're not that expensive in eBay, though... Funny thing is, most Holga plastics are 3x pricier than the orig Russians hehe .

yes, here she is.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2384/2404935163_cdded1cced.jpg

this is my smena 8m (x-posted from the lomography thread). cmeha means "young generation" in english and this sports a triplet 43 40mm f/4 lens, nifty weather and focusing meter symbols, and ability for multiple exposure goodness :)

real enough? :P

That's what I'm talking about!

Check the bottom, though. There are Chinese made versions of this, available at Lomography.com. Several chinese made LC-As are being passed-off as Russian. The best source is still 2nd hand from Russia. Look for the SMENA Lomos.

http://ukrainianfair.com/AUCTION/16.04.08/s8-6.jpg

http://www.tupyce.host-24.pl//P3301036.jpg

Notice how it says LOMO on the lens... I'm no connoisseur, but these are the true Lomos. People may get great lomographic shots on other cameras, but nothing beats the fulfillment of getting your shots out of the real deal, right?

Good luck for those who are about to begin their search... :)

Ehhhh.. What is exactly your point????:Thinking:

Wow! All I can say is, Leningradskoye Optiko Mechanichesckoye Obyedinenie! :D

Ehhhh.. What is exactly your point????:Thinking:

Hi Melvin! Haha...

We're discussing answers to my post here...

http://www.digitalphotographer.com.ph/forum/showpost.php?p=389626&postcount=31

It is "pana" discussion... :D

Hi Melvin! Haha...

We're discussing answers to my post here...

http://www.digitalphotographer.com.ph/forum/showpost.php?p=389626&postcount=31

It is "pana" discussion... :D

Sorry, just didn't get it...

Sorry, just didn't get it...

The guys here were just impressing me with their real Russian Lomos... :)

Well, YOU asked for it to be seen hahaha!

Well, YOU asked for it to be seen hahaha!

Right-o! :D

Vicoy, in truth you will be hard press to see the difference in images from a Chinese made LCA and an original old deadstock LC-A. When I still had my old refurb unit, I used to compare the images with my old all Chinese unit ( both the russian and chinese are gone now) and now with my half- breed unit (Chinese unit with real russian minitar lens).

It's really hard to tell the images apart, although when I really looked closely as in super closely, the Chinese lens produces slightly less distorted images but the difference is so minute that it's not even worth looking for it.

Does itreally matter if yours is an original Russian or the Chinese reissue? For me, in the end it doesn't matter if you own a deadstock Cyryllic lettered LOMO cam or the newer Chinese lomos. Just shoot because it still is up to you and how you take the images. Unless of course you collect and display these cameras and can use the Russians as show pieces for bragging rights :)

Which is which? Can you tell just by looking at these two shots?
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2086/2122256915_276a9af96a.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2312/2161250111_174f10a271.jpg

at the end of the day, what matters most is you love what you do. whether you own a lomo cam or not.

at the end of the day, what matters most is you love what you do. whether you own a lomo cam or not.

EXACTLY!! :)

otep : spoken like a true lomo head :) hahaha...
that's it really, just shoot and have fun :) no point doing something then stressing over it before, during and after the process :D

Vicoy, in truth you will be hard press to see the difference in images from a Chinese made LCA and an original old deadstock LC-A. When I still had my old refurb unit, I used to compare the images with my old all Chinese unit ( both the russian and chinese are gone now) and now with my half- breed unit (Chinese unit with real russian minitar lens).

It's really hard to tell the images apart, although when I really looked closely as in super closely, the Chinese lens produces slightly less distorted images but the difference is so minute that it's not even worth looking for it.

Does itreally matter if yours is an original Russian or the Chinese reissue? For me, in the end it doesn't matter if you own a deadstock Cyryllic lettered LOMO cam or the newer Chinese lomos. Just shoot because it still is up to you and how you take the images. Unless of course you collect and display these cameras and can use the Russians as show pieces for bragging rights :)

Which is which? Can you tell just by looking at these two shots?
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2086/2122256915_276a9af96a.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2312/2161250111_174f10a271.jpg

galing talaga!! idol..:)

galing talaga!! idol..:)


Nyek :) Idol Ka dyan :)

Vicoy, in truth you will be hard press to see the difference in images from a Chinese made LCA and an original old deadstock LC-A. When I still had my old refurb unit, I used to compare the images with my old all Chinese unit ( both the russian and chinese are gone now) and now with my half- breed unit (Chinese unit with real russian minitar lens).

It's really hard to tell the images apart, although when I really looked closely as in super closely, the Chinese lens produces slightly less distorted images but the difference is so minute that it's not even worth looking for it.

Does itreally matter if yours is an original Russian or the Chinese reissue? For me, in the end it doesn't matter if you own a deadstock Cyryllic lettered LOMO cam or the newer Chinese lomos. Just shoot because it still is up to you and how you take the images. Unless of course you collect and display these cameras and can use the Russians as show pieces for bragging rights :)

Which is which? Can you tell just by looking at these two shots?
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2086/2122256915_276a9af96a.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2312/2161250111_174f10a271.jpg


Well said, man... my thoughts exactly...

Anyway, just for fun, can I guess which? Or is this a trick? Hehehe

Lemme just guess, the 2nd one is the russian? :)

Melvin, You're a genius! Correct! Noticed how the chinese lens is a bit sharper?

wow... this thread is really active... thread starter must be happy to cause such a stir...

although i must admit that the "GAS" with lomography is quite high... "gas" on the film... "gas" on developing... but come to think of it film + developing... same things that put wholes in your wallet with film photography (film photography isn't lomography)...

don't even get me started with how expensive dslrs are... the fact that you need a laptop/desktop flares up the cost...

lomo cams (authentic russian or not) should be a little bit cheaper but what can we do... "law of supply and demand"... right now there's a lot of demand (especially for slide films hehehe)... of course rarity is also a major factor that affects the price for the authentic LOMO's...

i'm not gonna dispel the whole fad thing cause to some (or to alot) it is true... we'll just wait and see who will put up with their plastic cameras...

Yes, I noticed its a bit sharper... :)

To be honest, I really don't know... hehehehe... I don't know if the Chinese copies are sharper or not, but since both are handheld (I guess you never used a tripod on both), the sharpness can go either way (depending on how steady your hand was for that shot)....

Anyway, excellent lomo-shots... Astia I presume?

wow... this thread is really active... thread starter must be happy to cause such a stir...


he didn't even come back . LOL

Melvin, , Sensia and provia :)

Donna is right, never once did the OP even responded or contributed to this thread aside from starting this thread. Maybe the mods can just lock this down.

Nah, we're having fun with the thread heheh...

I haven't even tried lomography though...

Nah, we're having fun with the thread heheh...

I haven't even tried lomography though...

David, the term lomo is now so widely used that it is already generic, you can use non lomo branded cameras to shoot lomo, try getting hold of slide films and use it with your RFs and then have it cross processed. Instant pancit lomo hahahaha :)

Daniel: hehe, yup... I guess my preference towards B&W made me ignore that side of photography... Meron ba B&W Lomo :D, I'm such a stoop with colors hehe.

David, meron, Check out some of the awesome bw shots from a LCA or Holga from flickr :)

Well said, man... my thoughts exactly...

Anyway, just for fun, can I guess which? Or is this a trick? Hehehe

Lemme just guess, the 2nd one is the russian? :)

Melvin, we have the same guess! :)

I agree with you Daniel. There is no doubt that Lomography can be enjoyed whichever camera you have. The output can, no doubt, be very much the same. But, I'm sure you'll agree, there is greater personal fulfillment when you know you got a shot with that russian glass.

Internationally, Lomography is neither hyped nor overpriced. It's just that it's a budding hobby in the Philippines, despite it's having been around since the early '90s. And, being such, sellers will take advantage of the growing number of local hobbyists, by hyping it and putting premium on necessary equipment.

Peace...

Vicoy, actually the biggest credit for it goes to LSI both for promoting lomo awareness and at the same time increasing prices for the products they sell but I guess its justifiable because of the warranty it gives :)

i beg to differ. lomography as marketed by lsi per se is OVERPRICED not just locally but also internationally. an lc-a from lsi vienna would set you back by as much as 275euros. a horizon perfekt in LSI US would cost you $500.

then again, you can get these items elsewhere for much less. without all the "hype" from LSI.

Melvin, we have the same guess! :)

I agree with you Daniel. There is no doubt that Lomography can be enjoyed whichever camera you have. The output can, no doubt, be very much the same. But, I'm sure you'll agree, there is greater personal fulfillment when you know you got a shot with that russian glass.

Internationally, Lomography is neither hyped nor overpriced. It's just that it's a budding hobby in the Philippines, despite it's having been around since the early '90s. And, being such, sellers will take advantage of the growing number of local hobbyists, by hyping it and putting premium on necessary equipment.

Peace...


Still I strongly disagree... Its like saying I'm not using a Nikon when I'm using a D40 with a Sigma glass... or I'm not really experiencing using a rangefinder unless I use a Leica or a Bessa...

Agree with the others that its overpriced... No need to repeat what they say in verbatim, but I do have reservations for using one...

Btw, I have a Yashica ElectroGN... I read that its a considered a 'lomo', but from my end I never considered it as such...

Melvin, Lomography is quite different from SLR photography. So the Nikon-Sigma analogy won't really work, though I'd like to think so.

I'd like to think that Lomography is the use of an actual LOMO lens. But, Lomography, as it is currently defined, is no longer the use of an actual LOMO camera. It is now the achievement of the LOMO lens effect (e.g. vignetting and selective focusing). And, with cross processing and the use of expired film, new dimensions to expression have been added. Thus, you no longer need to get an actual Lomo Kompakt Automat to enjoy Lomography.

To enjoy Lomography, as I understand it, here is what you now need:
- A Lomo efftect capable manual camera.
- A good understanding of Aperture, Shutterspeed and Exposure control.
- A lot of time.
- Good friends who share the same hobby.

But, that's just my 2 cents... :)

Melvin, Lomography is quite different from SLR photography. So the Nikon-Sigma analogy won't really work, though I'd like to think so.

I'd like to think that Lomography is the use of an actual LOMO lens. But, Lomography, as it is currently defined, is no longer the use of an actual LOMO camera. It is now the achievement of the LOMO lens effect (e.g. vignetting and selective focusing). And, with cross processing and the use of expired film, new dimensions to expression have been added. Thus, you no longer need to get an actual Lomo Kompakt Automat to enjoy Lomography.

To enjoy Lomography, as I understand it, here is what you now need:
- A Lomo efftect capable manual camera.
- A good understanding of Aperture, Shutterspeed and Exposure control.
- A lot of time.
- Good friends who share the same hobby.

But, that's just my 2 cents... :)

To be honest, the only thing I agree with you is that its 'just your 2 cents...' Hehehe...

The topic is 'lomography' NOT Russian Lomo manufactured cameras. Lomography is just a concept created by the Lomographische. Inspired by russian LCA camera and other similar cameras produced by the Russian state owned LOMO... Hence when Russians were using the 'real' LCA's, they were doing PHOTOGRAPHY, not LOMOGRAPHY (as this concept is not even invented yet). The vignettes, blurs, and the all other 'happy accidents' were brought by poor optics, simply due to lack of a better choice by the Russians (I'm sure if there was a choice these same Russians would have opted for a Leica or a Nikon).

The Austrian guys who formed Lomographische found it to be novel idea and started the lomography photographic paradigm... Hence cameras produced by LSI is actually nearer to lomography idea than the Russian LCA's because the Russian's LCA was aimed to function as a real camera... So what 'you'd like to think' is actually incorrect...

So, your made-up criteria is actually false, hence I really don't understand your concept of marginalizing cameras produced by LSI as not Lomography...

Yup, I know about LSI.

Like I said, it is only my 2 cents... 2 cents is an amount that may serve of little value to a lot of people. If it is indeed of little value to you, then your last post clearly states it.

Any implied marginalizing is not intentional, as I myself am not able to meet my own definition of a person who's got what it takes to enjoy Lomography...

Peace... :)

I saw this coffee table book advertised in the hotel lobby today in Macau. A picture essay on the fast transforming Macau, it was done in black and white by this lady photographer from lisbon who now resides there. The moment i saw the photos, i knew what camera she used. A Holga.

Would have been a good buy..

To the thread starter:

"If you never have, you should. These things are fun and FUN IS GOOD."

- Dr. Seuss

:)

Guys, why fight over the pana? In the end, we're all in it for the photo. Not the gear. Right? :D

I love looking at Lomo pictures (or is it lomographic pictures)? I still believe it is a creative process because I can just imagine the many variables you have to deal with to be able to come up with a decent shot. The character of the output is a given, as we all know. But the art of taking it is something else. BUT, it doesn't mean I prefer to shoot using that tool. So the question of if it is "overhyped and overpriced" is really subjective. Hence, the "ping-pong" of opinions. At the end of the day, if you love the result of this creative process, it is worth the respect from those who truly love the craft (which is photography).

Cheers people! I'm new here and I am loving this forum.

Hi Deo, im glad you enjoy it here...:)

Hi Deo, im glad you enjoy it here...:)

Hey Donna. Yup I really am!:)

I love looking at Lomo pictures (or is it lomographic pictures)?

I prefer to call them "lomographs":Grin::Grin::Grin: a lot of people do hehehe... but still they're pictures that's more "artsy fartsy" than usual... hahahaha:D

"KODAK-AN NA!!!"

I prefer to call them "lomographs":Grin::Grin::Grin: a lot of people do hehehe... but still they're pictures that's more "artsy fartsy" than usual... hahahaha:D

"KODAK-AN NA!!!"

See. I learned a new word today "lomographs". Now I can butt in and use it when I hear lomo enthusiasts (or is it lomographers?) talking about the latest results of their Diana shoot-out, etc, etc. "Hey guys I bet those "lomographs" are b*tchin'."

Err can I say b*tchin here?:)

I have friends into Lomo and seen their results. It just doesn't interest me. It's a toy.

I have friends into Lomo and seen their results. It just doesn't interest me. It's a toy.

To each his or her own :)

My plastic toy camera has a built-in Photoshop. :Grin:

My plastic toy camera has a built-in Photoshop. :Grin:

Hahaha Amen Bro! :)

Hahaha Amen Bro! :)

:)

people got so used to digital cams and photoshop that they cant believe their eyes when you show them your work off film. hehehehe.... what more from a plastic cam with a plastic lens.... its way COOOOL!!! :)

shun the non-believers, SHUN!!! hahaha just joking...

Finally my Lomo camera arrived!
I got it for $110 Dollars plus 1pc of ASA-200 film & 2 batteries, is dat overpriced?
http://www.spring3d.net/spring/site2/catalog/images/fisheye2_b.jpg

Anyway I love it... :Grin:

Your last sentence negates your previous question :)

Your last sentence negates your previous question :)

hahahaha... this made my morning!!:Grin:

Your last sentence negates your previous question :)

:DNyahahaha!! Morning good David & Levi...:Grin:

John, Shoot and post photos na :) Congrats on your new camera, Welcome to the world of photography - Lomo chapter hahahaha :)

John, Shoot and post photos na :) Congrats on your new camera, Welcome to the world of photography - Lomo chapter hahahaha :)

Daniel@ I actually finish 1 roll of film.... hehehe..:Grin: the only challange now is I have to send this roll to the lab and I don't know if they do Film scanning here and Copy it on the CD or in a USB HD... or I might get my self a film scanner... don't know the price yet...

wat type of Film Scanner would u recommend?


Cheers!:)

John, If you are very patient then wait for 5 rolls before sending it to Digiprint, they charge 155 for the 1st roll and 30 pesos for the next roll, ( maximum of 5 rolls) so that's 275 lang for 5 rolls. develop and scan na yun with door to door delivery within 48 hours, however.......


if like me you are impatient try Fuji/YKL labs you can have them developed and scanned at 165 ata per roll. The scan quality is (IMHO) slighty ( just very very slightly) better than Digiprint and you get your CD with in the hour. - it's expensive but you get what you pay for - for being impatient :)

I suggest you go through a lab that'll give you at least an 8R-sized scan at 72dpi at least for regular prints...

I toyed with the idea of a scanner a few months back (I think I have a thread here somewhere), but after seeing how tedious it is to handle negs, how long it takes to scan a single high-res copy that I'll probably never use at that resolution anyway, i settled for lab scans instead.

At first, I have my negs processed in a normal photo lab, then have them scan it at the same time. The neighborhood Fuji lab charges me about P270/roll process+scan with contact prints (but no prints). I was pretty satisfied with them since I only print to 4R with my snapshots, the scan res was only suitable for 4R prints, though... About 1800x1200 @ 72dpi.

I then tried hobbyists that offers scanning services and they charge about P150 for scanning high-res and each file resulted to a whopping 10-20MB jpeg, even larger when I get them in TIFF. But it takes them such a long time to do so and I never use such a high-res file anyway unless I print it large. If I wanted to print it large, it would make more sense to bring the neg to the lab and have them give me a "proper" silver halide print instead of me printing it at home.

Finally, i found a small lab (mom and pop store) a few stalls away from the Fuji lab that I mentioned above that uses an Agfa-based scanner that provides me 4R and 8R 72dpi jpegs in one go for a cheaper price as well (about P240)... I'm getting a little "benefit" these days in terms of turnover time being a repeat customer. I'm set with that right now.

Phil rates are so much cheaper... :( I have to "try" to save my rolls and have them done in Manila... Fat chance.

I've been happy with having Digiprint scan the film shots from my lomo cameras.

They were captured in lo-fi anyway (plastic lens versus my L glass). There is a tendency for my film scans to be oversharpened. But at least the grain pops out (yummy!).

I've gotten very excellent Lomo prints from the scans that Digiprint has been doing for me.

I was at Makati earlier today at my frame supplier. I had 11 lomo images framed.

I now have to find wall space for those framed prints :D

Cheers!

Jo Avila

Sir Jo, No doubt that Digiprint does a great job, I guess I just prefer the Fuji scans a little bit better but the difference isn't that big as to make it noticable :)

OT:

BTW, I found a quick and dirty workflow to PP my lomo film scans.

Makes life easier and gives me more time to have coffee.

I might do a short demo of it during the next Katipunan Lomokapihan (if they ever get around to organizing another one :D)

Cheers!

Jo Avila

OT:

BTW, I found a quick and dirty workflow to PP my lomo film scans.

Makes life easier and gives me more time to have coffee.

I might do a short demo of it during the next Katipunan Lomokapihan (if they ever get around to organizing another one :D)

Cheers!

Jo Avila


Cool, Problem is my work is Mon-Sat 8-530 and sometimes even a bit later s my chances of joining ebs are severly limited :(

OT:

BTW, I found a quick and dirty workflow to PP my lomo film scans.

Makes life easier and gives me more time to have coffee.

I might do a short demo of it during the next Katipunan Lomokapihan (if they ever get around to organizing another one :D)

Cheers!

Jo Avila

wow... need to hear about this sir... yay! share next time sir...:)

@Daniel- :DHahaha!! I got shocked:Shock:.. 5 rolls that means I need to start clicking.. hhehehe:D I actually can't wait to see my first set of Film roll in a Lomo shots.. Heheh:Grin:

@David- Thanks for the Tip, I actually going to ask about it because for sure the LAB will ask me on what size do I require... Good timings David! So I must ask the Lab attendant to process it on 8R or 4R Sized scan at 72dpi...

Thanks very much guys! It's a good thing to kow this procedures specially a newbie liked me...

Cheers!:)

I've been happy with having Digiprint scan the film shots from my lomo cameras.

They were captured in lo-fi anyway (plastic lens versus my L glass). There is a tendency for my film scans to be oversharpened. But at least the grain pops out (yummy!).

I've gotten very excellent Lomo prints from the scans that Digiprint has been doing for me.

I was at Makati earlier today at my frame supplier. I had 11 lomo images framed.

I now have to find wall space for those framed prints :D

Cheers!

Jo Avila


Thanks for sharing Master Jo!:)
"..I still have few more wall spots in my apartment...hehehe...:Grin:

BTW.. I just need to find a Lab to meet all that requirements, I hope I'll find one here in Dubai..:)


cheers!

John, ( egg in my face) I completely forgot that you are out of the country ahhahaha

Daniel: Me too hehehehe

Daniel & David- :D Hehehe... Im so sorry as well, I forgot to mention before...
BTW.. here's my first try.. http://www.digitalphotographer.com.ph/forum/showthread.php?t=14531

Cheers!

Shitty products at high prices: their flagship, the LC-A, is a piece of junk. The lens is unique and awesome, but the camera that surrounds it sucks. They didn’t build them, but they locked down the supply and charge a premium. The first LC-A I ordered from them operated in bulb mode no matter what. The shutter button on the replacement fell off after running less than five rolls through it. I haven’t used an LC-A+ and therefore can’t comment on it.

To read more about the Goons at the Lomographic Society......... and how they are duping lots of fools........

http://photondetector.com/blog/2008/04/22/lomographic-society-continues-to-suck-co-opts-worldwide-pinhole-photography-day/

Shitty products at high prices: their flagship, the LC-A, is a piece of junk. The lens is unique and awesome, but the camera that surrounds it sucks. They didn’t build them, but they locked down the supply and charge a premium. The first LC-A I ordered from them operated in bulb mode no matter what. The shutter button on the replacement fell off after running less than five rolls through it. I haven’t used an LC-A+ and therefore can’t comment on it.

To read more about the Goons at the Lomographic Society......... and how they are duping lots of fools........

http://photondetector.com/blog/2008/04/22/lomographic-society-continues-to-suck-co-opts-worldwide-pinhole-photography-day/

hey mike, nice to see you around :)

true true, but the cosina cx-1 and cx-2's quality is awesome. i'll show it to you when i get it :)

@ Otep

You could be the Filipino version of Lomo Joe :D

Cheers!

Jo Avila

hey mike, nice to see you around :)



I'm not here much anymore, busy over at the other site......

The classic camera and film site..... Rangefinder Filipinas (http://rangefinderfilipinas.com/forums/index.php) (Don't mention the 'L' word there!!)
plus the day job is getting in the way of Photography!

hahaha hoping to get a "letter to cease and desist" from lsi

@ Otep

You could be the Filipino version of Lomo Joe :D
Cheers!
Jo Avila

quit the day job man, you don't need that :D

I'm not here much anymore, busy over at the other site......

The classic camera and film site..... Rangefinder Filipinas (http://rangefinderfilipinas.com/forums/index.php) (Don't mention the 'L' word there!!)
plus the day job is getting in the way of Photography!

I saw a Horizon Perfekt being sold here at Singapore for P27k.

I'll just be patient and wait for mine to arrive :D

Cheers!

Jo Avila

We have to do something about our rotting postal service Boo!:(

I was hoping that I could bring a X-Pan or Roundshot with me. :D

LOL!

Cheers!

Jo Avila

As of now, your best bet would be Johnny Air's proxy addresses... Interestingly, provincial Philpost have had very good success rates while Manila fails quite often.

We have to do something about our rotting postal service Boo!:(

lomographs?


more like lomocrap to me.

Akira, not every shot from a Lomo cam looks like crap naman :) Some actually do look nice and lomo helped introduce a lot of people to the appreciation of film :) To each his/her own talaga :)

To each his/her own talaga :)

well, yung nga :)

para sakin lang naman :Dum:

well, yung nga :)

para sakin lang naman :Dum:


:) No problem bro :) BTW Welcome to DPP :) We are honestly honored to have someone of your stature to join us in this film thread.

What is the cheapest lomo camera out in the market?

A Holga costs only 1800 in Avenue's in Hidalgo

Yes it is overhyped and overpriced. So? LOL.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3161/2592225501_620830f031_o.jpg
Meg Diana limited

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3200/2592225309_4ffa283952_o.jpg
Holga 120N

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3160/2563728291_e792e7a290.jpg

Fisheye 2

lomo overpriced? thats a bit of an understatement.

need to admit though, i like the fact that it introduce more people to photography and helped enormously in the resurgence of film photography.

If there's one thing I don't like about the resurgence of lomography, that'd be the sudden rise of prices of expired film... I used to get them for free from old photog shops, now they're more expensive than fresh rolls heheheheh.

I used to get them for free from old photog shops, now they're more expensive than fresh rolls heheheheh.

Expired films finally got some more value than being expired:)

If there's one thing I don't like about the resurgence of lomography, that'd be the sudden rise of prices of expired film... I used to get them for free from old photog shops, now they're more expensive than fresh rolls heheheheh.

well i was still able to get expired films from my suking store in cebu. imagine, kodak t400cn for just P60 petots and some kodak pro film (supra and ektacolor)

Otep: (Nanginggit pa!) Rub it in, rub it in... >:) hehe.

Some cameras are overpriced.

Fad? May be not.

What I like about all these lomography thing is that finally, films are being used again. For photographers like me who started with film, it is quite a relief to know that film is not yet dead. Film is still different from digital. (I don't want to go back to the never ending debate between film and digital)