Here: http://www.epinions.com/content_423767543428


@AA, benta mo na sa akin A200 mo para makapagA350 ka na:Grin::Grin::Grin:

hmm.. i wonder how much that would be locally :)

another surprise from sony phils :D

Here: http://www.epinions.com/content_423767543428


@AA, benta mo na sa akin A200 mo para makapagA350 ka na:Grin::Grin::Grin:


moises, hmmm.... nice review! tempting :D

i've bookedmarked it for a follow-through review on reliability and quality. thanks for sharing :)

hmm.. i wonder how much that would be locally :)

another surprise from sony phils :D


jeff, i see you and the a350 making good photogs together and an a350 thread... :Grin: good day!!!


or maybe si isi??? hmmm....

Aba?! Me balak mag2ndbody si MsLally!?

guys.. i saw the following sony alphas in infomax megamall.. store warranty nga lang but the price are tempting..

Sony A200 - 29K
Sony A350 - 39K

if this is the price, wow...

Aba?! Me balak mag2ndbody si MsLally!?


nope moises, but i'm just thrilled to see an a350 - and the 1st post of a photog taken with it.... :)

@Jeff, B[uy]B[uy]B[uy]! :D

guys don't be too excited! if you read carefully his post he mentioned in the Image Quality paragraph about high ISO.

I have not tested ISO 1600 or 3200 thoroughly because I only use these ISO levels when all else has failed. With large aperture lenses and image stabilization, I can't really find a use for these higher sensitivities. However, based on my limited experience with ISO 1600 and 3200 on the A350, I can say that the Nikon D300 and Nikon D3 both have noticeably less noise at these higher sensitivities.Remember this guy is photojournalist, carrying a D300 + MBD10 + one heavy nikkor VR lens is hefty big and heavy for him and or overkill to his job/needs. Now the question "are you the photojournalist guy"? I'm no here to bash Sony or what so ever, I just need to point out to SONY to improve its NOISE REDUCTION algorithm, an A700 CAN'T even make good processing @1600 @3200 how much more @6400. Its a matter of noise issue. If you shoot 100% of the time in broad day light with the power megaton sun on your subject; CAMERA will not matter, but try shooting into low light scenario + mixed lights + moving subjects well answer it to yourself. With that scenario I can tell myself already. Also don't be anymore astonished with our beloved Sony Philippines pricing and warranty shchemes :) cheers!

whats wrong with the noise reduction algo of alpha? can you explain it sean and have any sample?

Sorry Sean, but it's too exciting :D In the context of price|performance ratio - A350kit is listed at ~USD699 while D300(body) at ~1600 :) Of course both bodies will serve different types of photographers, in my case I seldom use ISO1600+. As you have quoted
I have not tested ISO 1600 or 3200 thoroughly because I only use these ISO levels when all else has failed.

Of course SonyPhil is out of the question. SonyPhil are you reading this?! :D

@Jeff, B[uy]B[uy]B[uy]! :D

im eyeing for the a700 :Grin: or the a900 :D


atl east now i know where to find these precious alphas locally at the reasonable price and not through sony square :)

Sorry Sean, but it's too exciting :D In the context of price|performance ratio - A350kit is listed at ~USD699 while D300(body) at ~1600 :) Of course both bodies will serve different types of photographers, in my case I seldom use ISO1600+. As you have quoted


Of course SonyPhil is out of the question. SonyPhil are you reading this?! :D


i remember reviews comparing my a100 to d200 during my camera hunting last year and almost not considered as an entry level... now a350 to d300... whew! cool!

anyway, as moises said its a different beast.

Sorry Sean, but it's too exciting :D In the context of price|performance ratio - A350kit is listed at ~USD699 while D300(body) at ~1600 :) ...

Actually, A350 kit is $800+-. But still way cheaper than a d300 nevertheless.

Of course SonyPhil is out of the question. SonyPhil are you reading this?!

Yeah, I was just in one of their stores last week to get a quotation, halos mapamura ko. @ Php 46k plus for a single lens kit, more expensive than a double lens kit @ USD900 srp. And I thought mahal na sa infomax.

I'm on a hunt for my first d-slr and was waiting for the A300 sana, first choice pa naman. But knowing now how Sony Phils insults their potential buyer, wag na lang.

Sayang, an A200 can easily outsale a D40 pa naman if they'll price it closer to its srp (USD 530+- = PHP 22k+- vs Sony Phils PHP 36K)

@Verk, ang puso mo!? :D Thanks for the correction, my head is spinning with the bodies|combo prices :D :D :D

Again: SonyPH, are you reading this?! :D :D :D

Actually, A350 kit is $800+-. But still way cheaper than a d300 nevertheless.

(snipped....)



ey Verk...hehe you're probably referring to US prices right? (i did not check)...sonystyle hk lists the a350 kit package at about Php29K or roughly $700...albeit...it's currently out of stock...

sony phils...wake up naman please!

yehey...i can access dpp again :)

Augh, jagey... lalong hahaba pila niyan :D :D :D

I just upgraded to A700 from A100 2 weeks ago. I got my new A700 for 99,999 with Wide to Mid-Telephoto Zoom Lens 16-105MM/F3.5-55.6). I really enjoy this lens since my place here in Cottowoods, Antipolo is a really nice place for compositional aspects of nature photography. I bought it from Sony Square – The Fort. They even gave me FREE Alpha Guide Book, which is really edifying for me. I have been using Sony for 15 years and up to now I never grumble on their price. For me, it’s the pride of ownership though specs are quite technologically advanced.

I think it’s so uncomplicated that if you cannot manage to pay for Sony Alpha then it’s an option. There are a lot of people who keep on buying Sony regardless its price SIMPLY because they have enough money. Sony Philippines I think is not frantic suppliant for you to buy their products. The first time they introduced VAIO in the Phils. I got the VGN-FZ28GN for 199,999, which is well matched with my Alpha. By the way, I am not professional photographer I am just a small time businessman.

I envy you sir for having the 'dough' to afford $ony locally :D
Welcome to DPP :)

Thank you so much Moises I really appreciate that.:-)

:Grin:

ey jose welcome to dpp..I think you are preaching to the converted...everyone here (at least in this forum/thread) is a certified alphaholic. So we all patronize sony and like you, believe in the brand.

this sounds like a troll, but i'll bite :)

the a700 currently sells for Php 47K in hongkong...for people who travel a lot (at least) the potential savings of 52K will be very significant because they stand to gain the most...where do you suppose are they likely to get their gear? Sony Phils will have costs that will be directly dictated by the amount they need to bring their products in (shipping, taxes, customs)....will that cumulatively amount to twice the price? maybe yes, maybe no...

if one doesn't travel much or local warranty is a major concern for you, the 'premium' is like what you stated, SIMPLY irrelevant, and hence the choice for you is clear.

i think globalization is ushering in more interesting times...the challenge for everyone (either small or big buseness) is to remain competitive in a seemingly shrinking world (given security of online purchases, ebay, budget airfares, etc...)

I have no intention to be condescending or to start another long thread on this subject (this was already discussed to death on a similar Nikon thread)...just wanted to explain where some of the crabby grumpiness are coming from.

hope to see your posts in the a700 thread :)

^very well said Jagey, now I envy your wisdom - I wish I could have been as aware and articulate as you :D :D :D

Hmn... IF I have P100T to spend: A700+16105 is only Php62,000 in HK. Php99,999 - Php62,000 = Php37,999.
Guys, what will you do with the extra Php37,999 if you're in HK? :D
Parang mas masaya pa ring gumastos sa HK, spend time in HKDisney with your family na rin to break-in your new A700|16105 :D :D :D

Or how about A700 + 18-250mm...versatile...I want I want...balance -- Disneyland + Tammy 90mm macro..:)

^Very good choice! Parang me sukli ka pa for an extension tube :D :D :D

Precisely, when I checked at SonyStyle located at Mongkok the price is lower than the price here that you could even afford to enjoy Harmony Massage at Four Seasons hehe. J However, I still considered buying from Sony Phils. since they provide 3-year warranty for the unit. Although, I could get 1yr. TLW from Sony HK but for sure in the long run it will only cause malaise. Aside from that I also considered the support from Sony Phils. for the reason that I get a qui pro quo from them.

…sorry jagey I don’t travel that much and I always consider the after-sales service.:Grin:

Hmn... Support from Sony Phils? After-sales service? Is there such a thing? Calling MrSabado :D Quid pro quo daw :P
I really just hope your cam don't conk out on you :D

Sorry to hear that Mr. Sabado J I just called them twice last Friday and asked if I could place an order of SAL135F28 (135mm F2.8 [T4.5] STF) and a vertical grip. Well, I’m just hoping that they wont disappoint me. I talked to their representative and they were very accommodating though they referred me to the store. They have limited stocks of Lens so you need to place an order. Hopefully, it will arrive next week as they promise because I really need it for my brother’s wedding. Otherwise, I will be willing to place an order online thanks for the suggestion jagey J…:Shock:

^I don't think you're a small time businessman to afford those MrJose :)

Hello Everyone here.

I have the worst nightmare experience with SONY PH. just scroll the old topics here.
You will know why... anyway my bashing spree with sony is over. But I urge everyone to boycott SONY Philippines (crazy price + poor after sales).

to you @josepalang (http://digitalphotographer.com.ph/forum/member.php?u=18436) I congratulate you sir, for your purchase for SONY PH item. You are one of the people who pays/contribute the gigantic ADS on TV/PRINT/WEB of SONY (including DPP wow a700 full page) + royalties to sony + tax. Yes you are right they are damn too kind when you are BUYING (I personally experience this)! Oppss... just hold your horses and kalabaws wait till something goes wrong with your unit (i hope nothing bad) thats the time they go crazy with policy and you be in deep trouble. Just imagine my HVL-F56AM goes dead in less than 2 months, the matter reached the office of the president. WOW jaw dropping... with this small matter the big sony president came to action. supposed this matter be on the technical/supervisory levels. Anyway thanks to them ~ they replace my UNIT brand new. Now this HVL-F56AM of mine cost more expensive than the retail value because + time spend by the president + time spend by the managers + hassle + stress + owwwohhhhh. See how they act when you talk about after-sales.

Sony PH, If you are reading me. You lost one good customer (me with the GAS sickness). Now I'm camping with the other brand (i didn't say they have no troubles) but you guys just kicked me out in this team (lucky me ~ I'm into the Nikon camp now). No worry I still shoot SONY A100 but for products (soon I'll dispose all sony).

I would like to take this opportunity to THANK all the folks here who purchase my sony/minolta lenses and accessories. I hope you are enjoying it :) I'll soon dispose my heavily fought HVL-F56AM (pro grade sony flash) :)

CHEERS!
SEAN

ey jose...just something to ponder...you said you dont travel a lot...you could you know hehe, it takes a few hours to go to hongkong and back, you don't even have to wait a week to get your lens :)

sony phils:
http://www.sony.com.ph/product/sal135f18z/sku/sal135f18z%2B%2Bae?site=hp_en_PH_i

sonystyle hongkong:
http://www.sonystyle.com.hk/ss/product/alpha_lens/sal135f28_ae_e.jsp (http://www.sonystyle.com.hk/ss/product/alpha_lens/sal135f28_ae_e.jsp)

at 92K vs. 47K, you can almost buy two 135mm f/2.8s!

and, given sean's experience above, i think its more like caveat emptor - buyer beware!

Wow that CZ is overpriced!

The 2.8 is a manual focus lens but it is famous for its bokeh.

excluding the exagerated price, if you go to any PH sony store they only have posters and pictures of the alpha system. no body, no lenses and no accessories displayed. All are ordered basis. they're suck!

i am surprise that infomax megamall is selling a sony a200 and a350 at half the price. hope i could see them too in hidalgo quiapo someday. beside after sales in sony PH as moises/sean experience is useless.

I know, it was sad. I walked into the Sony Stores in Megamall, Shangri-La and Gateway and they only had a small display with photos of the Alpha system; I would have expected more from, at the very least, the Megamall branch.

OT na kayo mga people :D

Yeah I’ve read your tread regarding your experience. Well, you still have to be grateful to them since it was replaced hehehe J I dunno maybe you’re just one of them who experienced that unrequited demand. In fact, I brought my DSC-T1 in their Service Center in Cainta Branch because the LCD malfunctioned. And they fixed it though it took 5 days since the part was ordered from Singapore. I’m really hoping that they won’t make me a Svengali and start a scourge of war against them hahaha… So far they are very accommodating especially the contact center that I usually chat in a tété-a-tété with their representatives every time I’m having troubles with my VAIO FZ. Maybe these are enough and thank you for everyone here.

@Jose, looks like you can be our representative to SonyPH :D

one more OT sorry....

@josepalang (http://digitalphotographer.com.ph/forum/member.php?u=18436) - my secret that i have made the president of sony and the rest of the boys scram to their chairs was this...

i sent a couple of emails to all sony service and support center all over the world.
sony japan
sony hk
sony us
sony singapore
sony taiwan
sony switzerland
sony uk
sony canada
owsss halos lahat na sony.
yung iba nag reply yung iba read lang walang reply.
also i CC sony ph :)
the sony japan was the most crazy thing i wrote a snail mail wala panamang sagot.
the letter is in japanese (saying SONY JAPAN tell your SONY Philippines to wake up)
ehehehe

CHEERS
SEAN

Wow that must be great heheheh...just to remind you usually this kind of cases doesn't escalate to president...their secretary will open the mail and if it's customer's complaint then it will be forwarded to the customer service right away.. my partner used to work in P&G customer care and this is the protocol. Normally, president doesn't know all about customer's complaint even cases escalated to DTI. In addition to that, did you use their CONTACT US? Just to remind you I used that when I inquired to Sony Gulf because my brother is in Dubai and he said Sony PH has promo for OFW's. I sent an email but Sony PH replied to my email since my email was redirected to them because of my place of residence. I think that's the routing when it comes to email inquiry. But who knows those countries got your message and sent to PH. By the way, why you didn't escalate it to DTI if you have right to demand? Though Sony doesn't affect of few customer's complaint because they have a monthly sell out of about 500M. They could even hire corporate lawyers as much as they want. They are MNC for sure they would just laugh even if you bring it to the court. Consumers I think should be vigilant when it comes to buying of products otherwise, we would just waste our time and our productivity. But you got an excellent idea...sending emails to all Sony CC hehehe...kudos!

Wow that must be great heheheh...just to remind you usually this kind of cases doesn't escalate to president...their secretary will open the mail and if it's customer's complaint then it will be forwarded to the customer service right away.. my partner used to work in P&G customer care and this is the protocol. Normally, president doesn't know all about customer's complaint even cases escalated to DTI. In addition to that, did you use their CONTACT US? Just to remind you I used that when I inquired to Sony Gulf because my brother is in Dubai and he said Sony PH has promo for OFW's. I sent an email but Sony PH replied to my email since my email was redirected to them because of my place of residence. I think that's the routing when it comes to email inquiry. But who knows those countries got your message and sent to PH. By the way, why you didn't escalate it to DTI if you have right to demand? Though Sony doesn't affect of few customer's complaint because they have a monthly sell out of about 500M. They could even hire corporate lawyers as much as they want. They are MNC for sure they would just laugh even if you bring it to the court. Consumers I think should be vigilant when it comes to buying of products otherwise, we would just waste our time and our productivity. But you got an excellent idea...sending emails to all Sony CC hehehe...kudos!


bummer :Thinking:


this really sucks if that's the case that the letters get thrown somewhere else.


i like sony, in fact, i love it that i picked an alpha... if they could just do something in exchange for how clients like us here patronize sony products - listening and maybe making a move to giving more attractive discounts if they really can't match HK prices.