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mitzpicardal 09-20-2006, 12:58 PM There's no VR photography category in the forum so i post it here.
Anybody here into VR Photography? What equipment (hardware/software) are you using? Any local online VR gallery?
Earl Gonzalez 09-20-2006, 01:20 PM There's no VR photography category in the forum so i post it here.
Anybody here into VR Photography? What equipment (hardware/software) are you using? Any local online VR gallery?
Mitz, please define VR photography. :Grin:
jerome pagunsan 09-20-2006, 01:43 PM Hi Mitz. Yeah it's a little confusing since im a Nikon shooter. Or maybe i miss what you really mean, is it (Virtual Reality)? Kindly define.:)
Gil Penaflorida 09-20-2006, 01:53 PM very reliable????
Raffy Crucillo 09-20-2006, 03:24 PM Hi Mitz. Yeah it's a little confusing since im a Nikon shooter. Or maybe i miss what you really mean, is it (Virtual Reality)? Kindly define.:)
Maybe it is Virtual Reality. I saw this in Google: http://www.vrphotography.com/
Earl Gonzalez 09-20-2006, 04:48 PM Maybe it is Virtual Reality. I saw this in Google: http://www.vrphotography.com/
Yup I agree... Most probably he meant this as well... Pero yun nga medyo confusing, specially if you're a Nikon shooter... :)
Anyway, I might be able to help mitz with this if it's really "Virtual Reality"... Coz it's in my line of work... :Grin:
mitzpicardal 09-20-2006, 05:41 PM Yeah it's Virtual Reality Photography. Also called Immersive Photography. It's where you take pictures 360X180 deg where you can pan, zoom in, zoom out and tilt. You can also put hotspots. As if you're in the picture location yourself.
See some samples here:
http://www.panoramas.dk/
Marco_Ingco 09-20-2006, 11:03 PM Yeah it's Virtual Reality Photography. Also called Immersive Photography. It's where you take pictures 360X180 deg where you can pan, zoom in, zoom out and tilt. You can also put hotspots. As if you're in the picture location yourself.
See some samples here:
http://www.panoramas.dk/
Wow! These are nice! This is actually used by some realtors here in the States to show off their properties :Grin:.
mitzpicardal 09-22-2006, 10:48 AM Wow! These are nice! This is actually used by some realtors here in the States to show off their properties :Grin:.
Yeah and ive been wondering if somebody in the Phils. is doing this already.
Sonny Thakur 09-22-2006, 10:51 AM Hmmmm
this looks interesting
Earl Gonzalez 09-22-2006, 11:10 AM Yeah and ive been wondering if somebody in the Phils. is doing this already.
Actually mitz, this is being done already... but still in it's infancy... You may call it pseudo-VR photography. :)
mitzpicardal 09-22-2006, 03:35 PM Actually mitz, this is being done already... but still in it's infancy... You may call it pseudo-VR photography. :)
Do you know anybody in the Phils doing it? I only know one actually, aside from me. That's why i'm looking for other phil based esp MM based so i can have somebody to interact with personally. Hirap din kase pag puro online lang kausap mo. I know its being done in many countries for quite some time now.
Why do you call it pseudo-VR photography? VR photography is the most widely accepted term for it in US and Europe.
Earl Gonzalez 09-22-2006, 03:52 PM Do you know anybody in the Phils doing it? I only know one actually, aside from me. That's why i'm looking for other phil based esp MM based so i can have somebody to interact with personally. Hirap din kase pag puro online lang kausap mo. I know its being done in many countries for quite some time now.
Why do you call it pseudo-VR photography? VR photography is the most widely accepted term for it in US and Europe.
Actually I'm doing it kaso nga lang on a limited extent... That's why it's Pseudo... My application is basically based on semi-interactive flash based 3D renditions of actual space... I use Java only on a limited basis. :)
mitzpicardal 12-07-2006, 12:21 PM He're the VR version of our house interior.
http://www.tourguide.panoptics.co.uk/view.php?pid=384
Note: Quicktime player required.
Darryl Ong 12-07-2006, 12:48 PM :Shock: :Shock: TFS,, first time to see VR :)
mitzpicardal 12-07-2006, 01:05 PM Try it Darryl. It's fun :)
Earl Gonzalez 12-07-2006, 01:06 PM Galing Mitz, care to share your tips. :)
mitzpicardal 12-07-2006, 01:15 PM Thanks Earl.
Since i dont have my dream 10.5 nikkor yet, i shot this using my 24mm.
Shot 3 rows by 13 frame plus zenith and nadir (41 shots total). Each frame shot at 30 deg interval. 1st row shot at 0 deg pitch. The other 2 shot at 60 up and -60 deg down.
Stitch using Hugin (Panotools). Clone out the tripod at the nadir (floor). Fix some misalignment at ceiling (you may notice the beam is not perfectly straight).
Converted the equirectangular jpg image into a quicktime file (.mov).
Using 10.5 mm only need 6 hots (4 around +zenith +nadir). You can even shoot it less (4 shots) using an 8mm fisheye. The advantage of shooting a longer focal lens is the more shot you make the higher the resolution. HTH
MelvinSevilla 12-07-2006, 03:42 PM wow, this is cool! First time i heard about this and its quite interesting. Although, this seems to me a very "technical" branch of photography... I'm still learning PS. :D
mitzpicardal 12-07-2006, 03:47 PM Melvin,
Yeah it's very technical if you want to learn the physics and math of it. But you can produce VR photos by just learning the basics of it. As long as you shot it correctly, some programs can do it automatically.
MelvinSevilla 12-07-2006, 03:56 PM Ok. Thanks! I'll check out that Hugin thingie. :)
I'm one of those IT guys who only knows their "work software" but definitely ignorant of some mainstream software programs (like PS and even Java). hehehehe...
dave_trinidad 12-07-2006, 03:57 PM thanks for sharing. I'd like to try this. ;)
don_garchitorena 12-07-2006, 04:16 PM He're the VR version of our house interior.
http://www.tourguide.panoptics.co.uk/view.php?pid=384
Note: Quicktime player required.
thanks for sharing mitz! i love to try this one too
nahilo ako dun sa house interior... me motion sickness talaga ako :Grin:
Earl Gonzalez 12-07-2006, 04:46 PM Thanks Earl.
Since i dont have my dream 10.5 nikkor yet, i shot this using my 24mm.
Shot 3 rows by 13 frame plus zenith and nadir (41 shots total). Each frame shot at 30 deg interval. 1st row shot at 0 deg pitch. The other 2 shot at 60 up and -60 deg down.
Stitch using Hugin (Panotools). Clone out the tripod at the nadir (floor). Fix some misalignment at ceiling (you may notice the beam is not perfectly straight).
Converted the equirectangular jpg image into a quicktime file (.mov).
Using 10.5 mm only need 6 hots (4 around +zenith +nadir). You can even shoot it less (4 shots) using an 8mm fisheye. The advantage of shooting a longer focal lens is the more shot you make the higher the resolution. HTH
Smashing... Nice Mitz... Thank you for the generosity. :)
mitzpicardal 12-07-2006, 05:01 PM You're welcome bro. I hope to see more VR photos posted here from DPPers.
Earl Gonzalez 12-07-2006, 05:09 PM You're welcome bro. I hope to see more VR photos posted here from DPPers.
Your workflow actually supplemented what I currently have... I work with different programs to achieve a near similar effect for web delivery... Basically, I use Maya or 3DSmax coupled up with Photoshop, Flash and alot of action scripting... :) I'll try to come up with something later when my schedule permits. :)
g-nie arambulo 12-07-2006, 05:36 PM Yeah and ive been wondering if somebody in the Phils. is doing this already.
Yap! We do that here, We have done it with several clients especially for Real Estate and Hotels. I will try to look for my files and post it someday (I am not just sure if I can post Quictime in this forum).
Patrick Evangelista 12-07-2006, 06:24 PM Ive seen these types of image not long ago, I didnt know it was called VR photography...I just called it...AMAZING....hehehe
Dont worry mitz, in a few days from now, you'll be interacting with VR photographers in DPP, thanks to your introduction..
PS
..... now I want to buy a wide angle!!!!!!!!
dave_deluria 12-07-2006, 06:25 PM Sheesh.. I have a 10.5mm Fishy
Hmmmmmmmmmmm
nap_alcedo 12-07-2006, 06:35 PM Very Nice. I have seen VR shots a long time ago, but most of these are of cars, both of their interiors and exteriors. It's nice to know that we mortals can also try this aspect of photography. TFS :Grin:
Robert Cheng 12-07-2006, 07:41 PM very intriguing mitz! btw how do you measure the degree angles? Estimates or used a panoramic tripod head?
mitzpicardal 12-08-2006, 04:33 PM very intriguing mitz! btw how do you measure the degree angles? Estimates or used a panoramic tripod head?
Hi Robert,
I use a spherical head with detent (15deg interval).
mitzpicardal 12-11-2006, 05:09 PM Here's another VR photo i took this weekend.
The VR was shot at Camayan Beach in Subic.
http://www.tourguide.panoptics.co.uk/view.php?pid=385&fullscreen=true
tracy_arciaga 12-11-2006, 05:17 PM I thought VR - Vibration Reduction Photography.. hahahha
mitzpicardal 12-12-2006, 04:13 PM Here's another one taken "above" a high voltage submarine cable :) . Partial VR (cylindrical).
http://www.tourguide.panoptics.co.uk/view.php?pid=386
mitzpicardal 12-12-2006, 04:14 PM Full screen version.
http://www.tourguide.panoptics.co.uk/view.php?pid=386&fullscreen=true
Jonathan Dael 12-14-2006, 05:19 AM wow i'd like to try this one.. the only one i made was a 360deg view of a landscape. i want the full VR thing!
Jonathan Dael 12-14-2006, 05:20 AM how do you do it again step by step? what's zenith and nadir?
Jonathan Dael 12-14-2006, 05:43 AM oh wait, i got it na.. hehe!
dave_trinidad 12-14-2006, 09:13 AM oh wait, i got it na.. hehe!
where did you get it? i found some websites but hard to understand.
@mitz: can u take this VR shots handheld? like in the beach?
mitzpicardal 12-14-2006, 09:36 AM Dave,
You can take a full VR shot handheld but you'll have to use a fisheye lens so you'll have less shot to take. You can still use a wide rectilinear lens (pref 16mm or below). But the more shot you take, the harder to stitch specially with people and and things moving in oyur scene.
For more info visit
www.panotools.org
Jonathan Dael 12-14-2006, 09:14 PM hi mitz! ang hirap pala gamitin yung Hugin.. pano ba usual worflow mo? i can't seem to stitch it all together? then how do you convert it to quicktime?
can you share it step by step nalang?
mitzpicardal 12-15-2006, 10:01 AM Hi Jonathan,
As with any open source software, the learning curve is a bit steep for Hugin.
Try to use other more beginner friendly software like Realvis Stitchher or Easypano. Theyre not free though but i think you can download a demo.
All software mentioned below are open source (FREE!). I prefer to run command line software since they use little hardware resources. Below is my workflow:
1. Shot the images using a tripod and spherical head. With my 24mm, I shot 12 frames X 3 rows (30 degree interval) plus 2 shots each for the zenith and nadir (at 180 degree interval). All shots in manual exposure, manual focus, fixed WB, fixed focal length.
2. Run Autopano-Sift in command line (DOS) to get initial control points.
3. Open the resulting project in Hugin.
4. Set lens parameters.
5. Set initial Yaw and Pitch. I just leave the other settings to default.
6. Add additional control points especially vertical and horizontal control points if you have vertical lines and straight horizon.
7. Run optimizer one step at a time.
8. If you get a good result (less than 1 pixel distance). You can stop from here in go to to Step 10.
9. If you dont get good result from Optimizer, adjust control points (add, delete, move) manually. Then run optimizer again. Do these repeatedly until you get a good result. You should know what all the steps in Optimizer is so you know what specific steps to run everytime. I.e. you may need to optimize the shift or one or a combination of the parameters only.
10. After you get a good result in optimizing. Set the projection you want (Use Equirectangular for VR). Set the size you want. Type of interpolation. Type of Stitcher (nona or PanoTools). Type of output file (i used multiple TIFF with masks) and run Stitcher.
11. I then run the mutiple TIFF files in command prompt (DOS) using Enblend or Smartblend.
12. Open the resulting TIFF file in PS and correct any ghosting or stitching errors (if you have moving objects in your VR).
13. Convert the resulting TIFF file (Equirectuangular) to Cubic using Pano2QTVR.
14. Edit the resulting cube faces (cubic) in PS. I usually just clone out the tripod in the nadir and put my logo or just clone out (erase) the tripod as if it was not there.
15. Convert the cubic file to Quicktime (.mov) using Pano2QTVR.
Took me about a year to learn all of these. I've been a member of PanoTools community for more than 3 years now and i havent learned anything bout it.
To know more about Panotools, go to www.panotools.org.
I you really want to go into it, learn the math and the physics behind it.
PS. You can also stitch HDR in Hugin but that is another topic.
HTH
Jonathan Dael 12-15-2006, 08:03 PM wow thanks! really seems complicated! i was having a difficult time coz the reulting stitches came out weird.. hehe! like a deformed mutant.. haha!
i experimented first in the sala.. but couldn't get good control points in zenith. so how do i go about that? manually?
also, how would you know what values to put in yaw and pitch?
mitzpicardal 12-16-2006, 08:17 PM Jonathan,
You can stitch without the zenith and just put the zenith manually in photoshop. If the zenith is just plain and flat or has very little details, you can just clone the nearby pixel to fill up the zenith. Ditto with the Nadir.
You can estimate the initial yaw if you know how many degrees you're panning for each shot. i.e if you take twelve shot around, yaw is 0, 30, 60, and so on.
For the pitch, your first row shall be 0. Upper row about +60 and lower row -60 if you just took 3 rows.
Putting initial values will help the Optimizer. But more accurate control points will make it even easier. If you have bad control points (>1 pixel) delete them and reoptimize.
Can you send me your Hugin project file so i can take a look where your doin wrong?
Jonathan Dael 12-18-2006, 08:49 PM thanks mitz! i'll send you the file soon. medyo busy eh.. or i can send you a new scene para mas madali coz the first one is a little 'bara-bara' ... :D
mitzpicardal 01-09-2007, 04:57 PM Taken on top of a rock.
http://www.tourguide.panoptics.co.uk/view.php?pid=389
Princess Jarlyn Young 02-12-2007, 06:57 AM uyy.. i didn't see this ah.. hmm..
@ Mitz -- don't know why, but i can view the pictures.. hmm.. thanks for sharing! :)
zandy_marantal 02-12-2007, 07:26 AM Taken on top of a rock.
http://www.tourguide.panoptics.co.uk/view.php?pid=389
Very nice Mitz!
Can't wait to try this out myself. Soon... :)
ricmaniquis 02-12-2007, 07:47 AM Ganda ng thread na 'to. Thanks for sharing. Great way to start the day. Now if only i had the time and the tools to get into this....:)
mitzpicardal 02-12-2007, 09:24 AM uyy.. i didn't see this ah.. hmm..
@ Mitz -- don't know why, but i can view the pictures.. hmm.. thanks for sharing! :)
Cez, you need Quicktime to view the VR file.
mark empeynado 02-13-2007, 09:52 AM thanks bro for the tips and the procedures....
Teddy Esguerra 02-13-2007, 04:06 PM Yeah it's Virtual Reality Photography. Also called Immersive Photography. It's where you take pictures 360X180 deg where you can pan, zoom in, zoom out and tilt. You can also put hotspots. As if you're in the picture location yourself.
See some samples here:
http://www.panoramas.dk/
@Mitz
I was looking at the link u posted. its great! How fast can u shoot a 360 degree shot without any retakes?? Like that beach scene? and how fast does post production take?
I sort of recall when this VR came out a few years back, a particular site led me to a museum and I was able to go into a room from the main hallway. Can todays software still do that? But u have to shoot ur way into that room also di ba?
TIA:Grin:
Chelo Pascua 02-13-2007, 06:08 PM Hi mitz! That is real amazing! Funny things is a friend and I were discussing this last Sunday over nabe and will try it (hopefully if it does not rain) this weekend. He will get the Sigma 8mm f4 this week (He's a Nikon shooter) and I'm looking at the Pentax 10-17mm (cheaper). Just amazed you can do it with a 24mm @ 41 shots! The website you mentioned recommends 3-8 shots only especially for moving subjects. Thanks again for showing this! It's great!
mitzpicardal 02-14-2007, 10:13 AM @Mitz
I was looking at the link u posted. its great! How fast can u shoot a 360 degree shot without any retakes?? Like that beach scene? and how fast does post production take?
I sort of recall when this VR came out a few years back, a particular site led me to a museum and I was able to go into a room from the main hallway. Can todays software still do that? But u have to shoot ur way into that room also di ba?
TIA:Grin:
Hi Teddy,
Its depends on the quantity of shot you're taking. Wider lens means less shot to take. So assuming you need 4 shots around for a 360 plust 1 shot for the nadir and 1 shot for the zenith for a total of 6 shots. It will take you about 12-16 secs for the whole VR.
Post production depends on how large your output is ,how fast your PC is and how fast your software is.
VR phtography is not just one image. Its called VR because its like virtually you are in that scene. You can turn around, zoom in/out, and you can walk through (i.e you can click on a door and enter that room and see what's inside for another image- called Hotspots). You can even embed the actual sound you are hearing on that day you shoot the scene (i.e sounds of birds or running water when you shoot it outdors) and the volume or type of the sound changes as you walk trough the VR. Its' like you're playing a 3D game on your PC.
You can shoot as many VR image as you want and link them via hotpots. This is the future of Google Earth :) Fly to a location and stand from that location as if you're there. Microsoft is developing something similar with their photosynth.
mitzpicardal 02-14-2007, 10:21 AM Hi mitz! That is real amazing! Funny things is a friend and I were discussing this last Sunday over nabe and will try it (hopefully if it does not rain) this weekend. He will get the Sigma 8mm f4 this week (He's a Nikon shooter) and I'm looking at the Pentax 10-17mm (cheaper). Just amazed you can do it with a 24mm @ 41 shots! The website you mentioned recommends 3-8 shots only especially for moving subjects. Thanks again for showing this! It's great!
Hi Chelo,
You only need 4-6 shots with a fisheye lens. The Sigma 8mm FE is a good one. Get the newer F3.5 version if possible. Unfortunately i dont have one.
The only downside to fisheye is the resolution. Less shots less resolution. The longer your lens (more shots) means higher resolution. The advantage of fisheye is less shot to make so less problem on moving subjects. And the less image you process, the faster and easier to stitch and blend.
Earl Gonzalez 02-14-2007, 10:35 AM @ Mitz - Severely OT: Where's the new avatar?!?!?! :D hehehehehehe...
mitzpicardal 02-14-2007, 11:43 AM @ Mitz - Severely OT: Where's the new avatar?!?!?! :D hehehehehehe...
DONE!. If only VR Avatar are allowed :)
Teejay Joson 02-14-2007, 12:43 PM hmmmm looks familiar ha ha
Teddy Esguerra 02-14-2007, 02:43 PM Hi Teddy,
Its depends on the quantity of shot you're taking. Wider lens means less shot to take. So assuming you need 4 shots around for a 360 plust 1 shot for the nadir and 1 shot for the zenith for a total of 6 shots. It will take you about 12-16 secs for the whole VR.
Hmmm....that made my imagination run wild, great! Now have u tried reversing the shots (i.e take a picture of an object or a person, while u move around him/her/it) and make it appear like "bullet time"??? (THE MATRIX EFFECT)Pwede kaya i-stitch yun??
:Shock:
mitzpicardal 02-14-2007, 02:49 PM Hmmm....that made my imagination run wild, great! Now have u tried reversing the shots (i.e take a picture of an object or a person, while u move around him/her/it) and make it appear like "bullet time"??? (THE MATRIX EFFECT)Pwede kaya i-stitch yun??
:Shock:
Teddy,
That's Object VR photography. They do that on product shoots. Same steps in stitching. Only the the projected output is different.
Chelo Pascua 02-14-2007, 08:36 PM Thanks! Mitz! We'll try this. But I'll get the 10-17mm. The 8mm is twice the price - only a 2mm difference though hmmnnn...
Teddy Esguerra 02-15-2007, 06:06 PM Teddy,
That's Object VR photography. They do that on product shoots. Same steps in stitching. Only the the projected output is different.
Thanks for the note Mitz. Sana u can do a demo on the EB!:)
mitzpicardal 02-18-2007, 08:00 AM Check this thread for our first VR EB at American War Memorial.
http://www.digitalphotographer.com.ph/forum/showthread.php?p=98134#post98134
mitzpicardal 05-11-2007, 05:32 PM Immerse yourself inside the La Mesa Visitors Center
http://tourguide.panoptics.co.uk/view.php?pid=428
mitzpicardal 05-18-2007, 01:36 PM Imagine yourself to be there during the LaMesa EB last May 05 and immerse yourself on the view and people present during that time (around 5pm).
http://tourguide.panoptics.co.uk/view.php?pid=429&fullscreen=true
(http://tourguide.panoptics.co.uk/view.php?pid=429&fullscreen=true)
mitzpicardal 05-18-2007, 03:19 PM Wawa Dam near the cross and bridge. The dam on your right. Look downa and see the river below the bridge.
http://tourguide.panoptics.co.uk/view.php?pid=430&fullscreen=true
mitzpicardal 05-21-2007, 09:45 PM Camp Mango
Cabangan, Zambales
http://tourguide.panoptics.co.uk/view.php?pid=431&fullscreen=true
Antonio L. Abong 05-21-2007, 10:56 PM Thanks for sharing and for the technicals. looks like a lot of work. i would love to ry it but don't think i'm ready for this yet....:Grin: pls. share more. the only thing is i , get motion sickness.:( A very good job mitz. very nice.
mitzpicardal 05-23-2007, 05:26 PM Updated version of the Camp Mango. Now with sound, floating navigation control, and of course my logo :D. The VR will autorotate 5 secs after it is loaded. Click on any part of the VR window to stop so you can navigate manually.
I appreciate any freedback especially on the sound and navigation (panning/zooming) quality. Thanks :)
http://tourguide.panoptics.co.uk/view.php?pid=433&fullscreen=true
mitzpicardal 06-19-2007, 05:16 PM VR photo of a wedding reception
http://tourguide.panoptics.co.uk/view.php?pid=461
mitzpicardal 08-24-2007, 02:59 PM Molo Church QTVR w/ music http://www.digitalphotographer.com.ph/forum/images/smilies/Drogar-Laugh%28DBG%29.gif. Enjoy!
http://tourguide.panoptics.co.uk/vie...ullscreen=true (http://tourguide.panoptics.co.uk/view.php?pid=483&fullscreen=true)
mitzpicardal 08-24-2007, 03:01 PM Jaro Cathedral QTVR
http://tourguide.panoptics.co.uk/view.php?pid=482&fullscreen=true
Randall Cipriano 08-24-2007, 04:48 PM Idol Mitz, I am without words again. Galing!
I like the Jaro Cathedral the best. The sharpness and the intricate design on the ceiling above the Apse is amazing! :)
mitzpicardal 08-24-2007, 05:46 PM Thanks Master Randall :Grin:!
mitzpicardal 10-08-2007, 05:34 PM Manila American Memorial 5
http://tourguide.panoptics.co.uk/view.php?pid=494
mitzpicardal 10-08-2007, 05:47 PM Manila American Memorial 4
http://tourguide.panoptics.co.uk/view.php?pid=493 (http://tourguide.panoptics.co.uk/view.php?pid=494)
Philip Beley 10-09-2007, 09:16 AM We have a camera and special lens for vr photography. we actually did it for the website of Gourmet Farms and for the Ateneo de Manila.
mitzpicardal 10-09-2007, 09:46 AM We have a camera and special lens for vr photography. we actually did it for the website of Gourmet Farms and for the Ateneo de Manila.
Hi Philip. Welcome to DPP. What camera and lens are you using for VR Photography? Can you show us a link to your sample VRs?
joelhgarcia 10-09-2007, 10:02 AM Jaro Cathedral QTVR
http://tourguide.panoptics.co.uk/view.php?pid=482&fullscreen=true
Mitz - Pare dont know what to say....too AWESOME!!!!!!! :)
Philip Beley 10-10-2007, 08:10 AM Hi Mitzi,
Your shots are really sharp. This is the link for the series we did for the Ateneo. http://www.ateneo.edu/index.php?p=116
We used a Nikon Coolpix 4500 and Kaidan bracket and lens.
danpagulayan 10-10-2007, 08:17 AM Yeah it's Virtual Reality Photography. Also called Immersive Photography. It's where you take pictures 360X180 deg where you can pan, zoom in, zoom out and tilt. You can also put hotspots. As if you're in the picture location yourself.
See some samples here:
http://www.panoramas.dk/
Mitzi,
I dabbled into those, both full 360 and partial VR. I have a few samples, but I did not have the time to search for places where I can post them. Does DPP have a place for these?
Dan
Sent you PM, too
mitzpicardal 10-10-2007, 12:35 PM Hi Mitzi,
Your shots are really sharp. This is the link for the series we did for the Ateneo. http://www.ateneo.edu/index.php?p=116
We used a Nikon Coolpix 4500 and Kaidan bracket and lens.
Do you have a full VR version (360x180deg)? It would be nice to see the ceiling and floor of the interiors.
mitzpicardal 10-10-2007, 12:38 PM Mitzi,
I dabbled into those, both full 360 and partial VR. I have a few samples, but I did not have the time to search for places where I can post them. Does DPP have a place for these?
I host my VR at Panoptics in UK until i can have my own host :D. It would be nice if DDP can host too.
danpagulayan 10-10-2007, 01:23 PM Mitzi,
Here's one I created over lunch --- partial panorama.
http://tourguide.panoptics.co.uk/view.php?pid=495
Thanks for providing the link.:)
mitzpicardal 10-10-2007, 01:41 PM Mitzi,
Here's one I created over lunch --- partial panorama.
http://tourguide.panoptics.co.uk/view.php?pid=495
Thanks for providing the link.:)
Bor. Dan, i'm glad you have it online na. Your Pano has a lot of stitching errors very evident on the lines on the floor and the beam on the wall not joining/aligning (parallax errors) . I'm sure this is a result of not rotating your camera/lens on its "No-Parallax-Point". You can learn more about parallax error on DPP next issue :). The blending is good though as i don't notice any exposure/color shift. Post more!
danpagulayan 10-10-2007, 02:26 PM Bor. Dan, i'm glad you have it online na. Your Pano has a lot of stitching errors very evident on the lines on the floor and the beam on the wall not joining/aligning (parallax errors) . I'm sure this is a result of not rotating your camera/lens on its "No-Parallax-Point". You can learn more about parallax error on DPP next issue :). The blending is good though as i don't notice any exposure/color shift. Post more!
Mitzi,
Thanks a lot for your comments. Indeed, lots of errors need to be checked -- this one's for a quick show for a post-mortem report to the sports comittee this pm. Autostitching software can only do so much.
Lots of preparation needed before hand to get it done right. More work needed to be done post-processing - (e.g, shot-to-shot changes like people moving about, trees swaying, or changing light conditions). Very time consuming, but rewarding in the end.
Looking forward to your article article... :)
Janis Nuņez 10-10-2007, 04:16 PM Mitz - Pare dont know what to say....too AWESOME!!!!!!! :)
in reference to Mitz' post, undeniably beautiful, you can actually see the details of every pattern on the church's ceiling. it's ike one of those pictures in Encarta! :Shock:
mitzpicardal 10-10-2007, 04:18 PM in reference to Mitz' post, undeniably beautiful, you can actually see the details of every pattern on the church's ceiling. it's ike one of those pictures in Encarta! :Shock:
Thanks Janis, Welcome to DPP!
Philip Beley 10-11-2007, 10:18 AM Mitzi, I only have it in 180 X 180 unfortunately. Maybe you can start a VR group here. I am sure there are others who are interested in VR photography.
mitzpicardal 11-04-2007, 04:06 PM Laharlandia, Pinatubo
http://tourguide.panoptics.co.uk/view.php?pid=499
mitzpicardal 11-08-2007, 03:42 PM "Pinatubo Capas Trailhead"
http://tourguide.panoptics.co.uk/view.php?pid=500
"Pinatubo Crater"
http://tourguide.panoptics.co.uk/view.php?pid=501
Arlino Aoanan 11-26-2007, 09:21 AM VR is an inter active photography you need a software and take a whole 360 angle picture. Example camera on tripod covering 360 degree rotation shot stich it load it in a VR program and you will end up virtual reality photograph. Again it's interactive so large files recommended and computer speed is essential.
mitzpicardal 11-26-2007, 09:50 AM VR is an inter active photography you need a software and take a whole 360 angle picture. Example camera on tripod covering 360 degree rotation shot stich it load it in a VR program and you will end up virtual reality photograph. Again it's interactive so large files recommended and computer speed is essential.
Hi Arlino, Thanks for visiting the thread. Can you show us some of your VR images?
Arlino Aoanan 11-26-2007, 10:00 AM Hi Arlino, Thanks for visiting the thread. Can you show us some of your VR images?
Not into it yet but reading a lot about it.
mitzpicardal 11-26-2007, 10:17 AM Not into it yet but reading a lot about it.
You might want to join our org www.ivrpa.org. You'll learn a lot from the forum alone.
Arlino Aoanan 11-26-2007, 11:56 AM You might want to join our org www.ivrpa.org (http://www.ivrpa.org). You'll learn a lot from the forum alone.
That is great thanks.
mitzpicardal 01-08-2008, 04:05 PM One of my VR image is included in the
WWP Best of 2007
http://geoimages.berkeley.edu/worldwidepanorama/wwp1207/index_thumbnails/P.html
The World Wide Panorama (WWP) events are sponsored by the Geography Computing Facility at the University of California Berkeley.
Mark Quisquirin 01-08-2008, 05:37 PM @mitz, Thanks for sharing this... actually i have tried some VR of our house but i didnt able to finish it.. =( (lack of knowledge how to do it).. but when i saw your post! Man!! you've given me hope..hehe i really want to learn this kind of photography even though it is quite technical. =s Anyway, THANKS! Keep posting.. You Rock!
Mark Quisquirin 01-08-2008, 05:49 PM One of my VR image is included in the
WWP Best of 2007
http://geoimages.berkeley.edu/worldwidepanorama/wwp1207/index_thumbnails/P.html
The World Wide Panorama (WWP) events are sponsored by the Geography Computing Facility at the University of California Berkeley.
Congrats Mitz!... Keep it Up!..
mitzpicardal 01-08-2008, 06:02 PM Congrats Mitz!... Keep it Up!..
Thanks Mark. Check this site for more info on VR photography www.panotools.org .
Mark Quisquirin 01-08-2008, 08:33 PM Thanks for the info Mitz... Looking forward for more of your works.. (hoping to learn your technique)... :Grin:
charliesuguitan 01-09-2008, 04:00 AM One of my VR image is included in the
WWP Best of 2007
http://geoimages.berkeley.edu/worldwidepanorama/wwp1207/index_thumbnails/P.html
The World Wide Panorama (WWP) events are sponsored by the Geography Computing Facility at the University of California Berkeley.
congrats mitz :Grin:
Bebet Gaudinez 01-09-2008, 05:16 AM One of my VR image is included in the
WWP Best of 2007
http://geoimages.berkeley.edu/worldwidepanorama/wwp1207/index_thumbnails/P.html
The World Wide Panorama (WWP) events are sponsored by the Geography Computing Facility at the University of California Berkeley.
Galing, Mitz.
CONGRATULATIONS !!!!!!!!!
mitzpicardal 01-09-2008, 03:42 PM Thanks Charlie and Bebet. I hope i can submit on future WWP events.
mitzpicardal 06-17-2008, 05:41 PM Repost from OA4 thread.
Assumption Cathedral, San Fernando, Pampanga
http://tourguide.panoptics.co.uk/view.php?pid=548
Parish Church of Saint James the Great Betis, Guagua, Pampanga
http://tourguide.panoptics.co.uk/view.php?pid=547
ruel landrito 03-10-2011, 10:54 PM for almost 3 years this thread has not been updated. just last year i started to gain interest in doing vr photography. i've read some online tuitorials, books on the topic and have once asked the master in vr photography - mr. mitz picardal. i just want to share what i have learned through my readings and and peristent trial and errors.
Bambino Exhibit at the Pasig City Museum
http://tourguide.panoptics.co.uk/view.php?pid=661
Sisiman Bay, Mariveles, Bataan
http://tourguide.panoptics.co.uk/view.php?pid=665
Canon EOS 7D+EF-S 10-22mm+f/8.0+ISO 100
MitzAbache 03-12-2011, 11:44 AM Hi Mitz! Im Mitz! :D looks interesting.. :Grin: i guess this thread are old yet it gives something new to learn. thank you.
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