Basic Studio Lighting Setup [Archive] - Digital Photographer Philippines

jay_alonzo

09-27-2006, 11:22 AM

Badong,

I'll base my recommendations on the kind of shoot you intend to do considering the budget as well.

First, you mentioned that you have an external camera flash already, why don't you buy an extension cord for that so you can fire your flash off-camera. Add to that, buy a flash-umbrella adapter (which you can find surely in Hidalgo like Avenue Photo, it has a cold shoe where you can slide in the flash with the extension cord) and a translucent or shoot-through (not the reflective type) of umbrella; it's just plain white umbrella. There's also a cheap light stand available in Quiapo or Aperture Trading in Banawe. Then buy one or two biggest size foam core board or foam board at National Bookstore or in art supply stores.

My budget estimate (excluding the extension cord and the camera flash which you already have now) are as follows:
Translucent umbrella - P1K to P1.8K; the bigger the softer the light thou more expensive
Lightstand - P1K to P1.5K
Umbrella adapter - more or less P1K
Foam board - around P500
Actual prices may possibly be way out of the range I gave for it's been a while since I last did some rounds in Hidalgo.

Since you're quite new in artificial lighting, you may want to master the technique of single lighting before you endeavor in more complex lighting set ups. Besides, single lighting when implemented properly could be dramatic. You'll notice later on that in some subjects and kind of shoots you'll do, one light is more than enough.

I included the translucent umbrella to soften your camera flash's light output. This is to reduce contrast and lessen shadows typical of a studio shot. Unmodified light from the camera flash will give that harsh look and distracting shadows. But then, these harsh and shadowy look can also be cleverly used in some mood lighting effect. However, you will be doing a portrait shot and usually, it's soft lighting that we use, thou hard lighting is better suited in some concepts.

Translucent umbrella is recommended since it will absorb less raw light power compared to a bounce or reflected umbrella.

You'll need a light stand to support the light set up. For the price I mentioned, you should be able to get a decent enough stand for the kind of work you expect to do.

Thou there are commercially available reflectors that you can fold and conveniently bring anywhere, it will take a significant part of your budget. So a foam core board will do. A cheaper alternative is the illustration board but it tends to bend a lot and you want to have your reflector rigid and flat to be effective. You will use this to reflect back some light in the shadow side of your subject to lift up details in that area. The reflector stands as a less efficient substitute for a secondary or fill-in light.

Of course, you will need to buy a flash extension cord so you can fire your flash off-camera, so you can mount (via the adaptor) the lighting unit on the stand. The adaptor is fitted with a hole where you can insert and mount the handle of the umbrella.

If you still have some dough, you may want to buy a Morris Slave Strobe (around P1.5 to P2.5k; resembles a light bulb only it's a stobe), a universal umbrella adaptor (it has a socket so you can screw the strobe in it and fitted with a hole where you insert and mount an umbrella; P1k more or less), another light stand and another umbrella. This will serve as a second light or as a background light or accent light.

As for your background, a seamless paper will cost you around P2-3K a roll and you have to consider how you will mount or support it which entails additional cost on your part. You can buy artist's canvas and put dye on it and design it whatever way you want. It is easier to mount cloth backgrounds than the seamless paper type. Experiment with other fabrics and materials as your background.

If you want to buy a decent starter kit, the Falcon Eyes as mentioned here is good enough to begin with. It comes with two light units with adjustable settings, a pair of stand, an umbrella and softbox (if I recall it correctly, contact Aperture Trading to be sure) and a kit bag. But it fetches at P13.5k. Way beyond your budget. However, you can buy it in a piecemeal basis. Get one unit, a stand and an umbrella or softbox.

However, take note that working with flash units will be more convenient if you have a flash exposure meter such as the L308B or L308S which has a tag price of P8-9K. This will help you determine not only your proper exposoure settings but also help you set the proper ratio in your light set up.

You also have to buy a triggering device such as an IR trigger to fire the units remotely, which costs P1.5K. Radio slave option is way beyond what the budget allows. You can use your flash to fire the units but make sure the flash head is not aimed towards your subject and dampen the output with a white paper or tissue especially when working in a small room. Flash fired from the camera can affect your light ratio and contrast control.

Hope this helps.

JayA

Hello,

I wish to achieve good lighting for even a half-body shot.

With regards to budget, I would like to start out with 10K the most. I do hope that can get me started. IF not, please let me know what is needed for a decent studio shot. It's a good thing I was warned about that 2.5K setup.

The idea of paper for background is good. Where will I be able to find a big piece of paper(seamless paper)?

Thank you very much for your time and more power to this great forum.

egayfaro

09-27-2006, 12:42 PM

The Falcon Eyes settings sounds pretty interesting. What is the other alternative if I dont have a flash exposure meter?

Thanks.

mario_bes

09-27-2006, 01:12 PM

anyone tried the falcon eyes set-up? I saw this before during last years photoworld in glorietta. Is this any good? I believe this was priced something between the 12-13.5k range. Hope to hear any reviews on this....I'm contemplating on buying one

@bunny/ donato

i have the falcon eyes setup bought it for 13t at watsons, its pretty good for starters abt 100w/s per head, you will have 2 so its 200, its strong enough for head shots but not for full body because of the size of the softbox, its good enough for small products or a plate of food but no bigger..

Nice features..modeling light, variable power adjustment, 1/8, 1/4, 1/2, full and can be triggered by a on flash remote falcon eyes trigger or sync cord..and even by on camera flash

but i had a problem with the recycling time.. you cant shoot continuously, theres even a warning in the manual..you have to cool it first for about 2 mins after 5 consecutive shots i think before you can shoot again..but in actual tests sometimes it doesn't fire after 3 shots..and can sometimes ruin your momentum..

forgot the aperture rating at 1/125 secs at iso 100 but i think its pretty high at f16 or f22 in actual tests..

i give it a:
7 for power (meaning watt secs)
5 for recycling time
8 for build quality
8 for price
6 for dependability
8 for portability
sorry for the criteria thats all i can think as of the moment hehe :)

but i give a 9 for beginners and was able to recover the investment and some profit in 1 project:) ..

but given the choice i would have shelled out more for a visatec or some other brand who wouldnt give me any recycling poblems..but ganyan talaga photography

mario_bes

09-27-2006, 01:40 PM

heres some samples, taken with a canon 20d, 28-135mm IS zoom, and the two falconeyes..jpg unedited

1/125 secs, f/11, iso 200 i think :) ill check uli

btw i bought a 60x60 softbox so the setup is the 60x60 softbox at full power and a 30x30 softbox at 1/2 power:

http://www.photo.net.ph/albums/userpics/11902/p0000002850.jpg

http://www.photo.net.ph/albums/userpics/11902/normal_p0000002834.jpg

http://www.photo.net.ph/albums/userpics/11902/normal_p0000002856.jpg

egayfaro

09-27-2006, 01:43 PM

@Mario

What is the ideal ??w/s per head to come up with a decent full body shots?

mario_bes

09-27-2006, 01:48 PM

@Mario

What is the ideal ??w/s per head to come up with a decent full body shots?

hi egay,
im not really an authority on flash setups so baka magkamali ako, maybe we can ask the pros about it :) i think we have a lighting moderator?

Jo Avila

09-27-2006, 03:11 PM

I used to rent lights from Island Photo when I was starting out. I would rent an Broncolor Impact 41 studio strobe set whenever the need would arise. The Impact 41 is a 300w/s strobe.

I am currently using Visatec 1600B strobes and they're rated at 600w/s. But I usually have them at half power :D

It is sometimes not accurate to judge a strobe's power output based on w/s though. The w/s only takes into account how much electrical charge the strobe system can store in its capacitors. It doesn't factor in how efficiently the strobe system transforms the electrical charge to light energy.

This is why some strobe manufacturers have two ratings for their strobes - w/s and effective w/s. But effective w/s is a guesstimate or a manufacturer's claim at best.

That's why some photographers would rather rely on lumenseconds to ascertain just how powerful a strobe.

@Mario

What is the ideal ??w/s per head to come up with a decent full body shots?

egayfaro

09-27-2006, 03:33 PM

@ Mario & Jo

Thanks for your input guys, great help. Maybe should start practicing with head shots na muna.

David Tong

09-27-2006, 04:44 PM

Found a link that explains flash hehe... Ngayon ko lang nagets...

http://www.studiolighting.net/portable-flash-exposure-basics/

JOHNDEEYU

09-27-2006, 05:23 PM

jay_alonzo

09-29-2006, 07:28 PM

A 300/ws at least will do...

@Mario

What is the ideal ??w/s per head to come up with a decent full body shots?

jay_alonzo

09-29-2006, 07:30 PM

Yes, Mario. you guys have a lighting forum moderator....just ask...i'm sure others will contribute an answer or two as well...

hi egay,
im not really an authority on flash setups so baka magkamali ako, maybe we can ask the pros about it :) i think we have a lighting moderator?

Jimmy Rosaria

10-03-2006, 01:52 PM

hi mga lightning master...
can i use working light as my light? cause i saw working light using halogen lamp rated 500watts for less than 10$.. did anyone try this set up (not for pro just for fun and experiments)

thanks..

jay_alonzo

10-03-2006, 03:32 PM

Any light source will do actually...but not all light sources are ideal for photography, especially if in color.

The tungsten halogen lamp will do but expect the following....

You may think it's bright enough especially indoors but not that bright to use really fast shutter speeds or freeze motion not like flash units...you may bring the light source closer to your subject to increase its intensity and get higher chances of 'fast shutter' capture but since it's hot, it will be a big discomfort especially for people subject. And, you'll have to use a tungsten or custom WB for an accurate rendition of colors.

More important is the limitation of modifying the raw output of the hot light . You can't attach a softbox, umbrella and most specially a snoot to it. an umbrella could survive it as long as it's not exposed to the light's heat for a long period of time continuously, thou there are modifiers such as softbox and umbrella that are specially designed for hotlights.

hi mga lightning master...
can i use working light as my light? cause i saw working light using halogen lamp rated 500watts for less than 10$.. did anyone try this set up (not for pro just for fun and experiments)

thanks..

mario_bes

10-03-2006, 04:30 PM

Yes, Mario. you guys have a lighting forum moderator....just ask...i'm sure others will contribute an answer or two as well...

thanks jay,
actually i was thinking about you but i wasnt sure if its you or jo avila hehe..
anyway i suppose youve read my post about the Falcon eyes regarding the cycle time, etc..

i used to use it for food setups but lately it had kind of green cast so i bought a cold light setup, the one with spiral 25w daylight fluorescent lamps, one is 3 bulb and 1 is single bulb..ill be posting sample pics of both setups, hope you can help me by criticizing my pics..thanks

:)

mario_bes

10-03-2006, 06:21 PM

hi jay
here are test shots of two types of lighting, jpgs unedited, direct from camera:

heres from the falcon eyes..

http://www.photo.net.ph/albums/userpics/11902/normal_p0000000475.jpg

and heres from the daylight balanced fluorescent lights:

http://www.photo.net.ph/albums/userpics/11902/normal_p0000001038.jpg

your comments are most welcome..:)

egayfaro

10-03-2006, 06:37 PM

Nakakagutom! Are you doing it for a living or just plain hobby only?

mario_bes

10-03-2006, 07:22 PM

thanks egay,
those are my test shots, i wanted to show jay the difference of my two lighting setups, comment on it and maybe get feedback whats the best thing to do..

though its not my main source of livelihood, i do it for a friend's resto who uses it for his menu and mural and yes i charge him for it :)

Jimmy Rosaria

10-03-2006, 10:27 PM

thanks jay.. probably i will get one.. pede naman ibalik e :)

@mario.. kakagutom sisig mo.. 2 yrs na ako nde nakakakain nyan.. sarap..

Fherdy Tiongson

10-03-2006, 11:00 PM

hi JayA

are the SOLO 800B are enough to shoot the full portrait scene?
here i found with 3 head 2 soloflex softbox 80x80cm with standard reflector and snoot.

can i make it for a studio type.

Thanks

FherD
KSA

A 300/ws at least will do...

Bryant William Cuison

10-04-2006, 02:54 AM

I came across this very helpful link from another forum. This is especially helpful for those who are starting out in artificial lighting. http://strobist.blogspot.com/

This site just proves that you still can come up with great pictures without the expensive equipment. :)

jay_alonzo

10-04-2006, 10:02 AM

Certainly, Fherdy...but I find the softbox quite small for a full body portrait but okay for half body or tighter shots. For a softer and a more even distribution of light from head to toe, get a full length softbox, like the Soloflex 32"x63".

hi JayA

are the SOLO 800B are enough to shoot the full portrait scene?
here i found with 3 head 2 soloflex softbox 80x80cm with standard reflector and snoot.

can i make it for a studio type.

Thanks

FherD
KSA

jay_alonzo

10-04-2006, 10:07 AM

All members may share their opinion and contribute their replies here. Jo Avila is a co-moderator of Pilar in General Digital Photography. In the beginning, was supposed to help out Pilar in the General section too but due to time constraints...:(

thanks jay,
actually i was thinking about you but i wasnt sure if its you or jo avila hehe..
anyway i suppose youve read my post about the Falcon eyes regarding the cycle time, etc..

i used to use it for food setups but lately it had kind of green cast so i bought a cold light setup, the one with spiral 25w daylight fluorescent lamps, one is 3 bulb and 1 is single bulb..ill be posting sample pics of both setups, hope you can help me by criticizing my pics..thanks

:)

jay_alonzo

10-04-2006, 10:17 AM

Mario, before I give my comments, let me guess, you were using AWB when shooting both set ups?

thanks jay,
about the Falcon eyes, i used to use it for food setups but lately it had kind of green cast so i bought a cold light setup

:)

mario_bes

10-04-2006, 11:49 AM

Mario, before I give my comments, let me guess, you were using AWB when shooting both set ups?

yes jay, you got it right, uh oh, just hit me..i guess thats where i bungled :) ..it was taken in a restaurant with fluorescent lights and wall washers with yellow tint..

mario_bes

10-04-2006, 12:02 PM

heres a snapshot of the setting jay...

http://www.photo.net.ph/albums/userpics/11902/bac_chkn_tycoon_post.jpg

jay_alonzo

10-04-2006, 01:26 PM

Since you asked for it, I'm gonna hit you really so brace yourself :Evil:

First, if only I'm a tech wizard, I'll disable the AWB function of your camera. Why on earth do you always have to use the AWB? Really sick of AWB :Sick: Second, you don't really need to buy that fluorescent set up because there's nothing wrong with your Falcon Eyes.

When you use AWB with your Falcon Eyes, the camera assumes you are using the continuous light in use at that time for illumination - in this case the modeling lamp of the Falcon Eyes; or if it was turned off, the room illumination, or whichever is stronger. I assume the modeling lamps of the Falcon dominated the overall 'continuous light' in the set. In short, the camera based its AWB on the continuous light it 'sees'.

So when, you pressed the shutter button and flash illumination lit up the subject, the WB function of the camera didn't factor in the color temperature of the flash illumination which is the real light source for the image capture. And since the color temperature of the model lamps and fluorescent are lower than the flash's, the WB function 'simply thought' you were shooting with a light source that has a low (and therefore yellowish) Kelvin rating, making your shot excessively cyan to bluish (and perhaps thats what you mean, referring to the shot you posted here, not really greenish).

The cold light set up came out better simply because the WB function of the camera measured the color temperature of the actual light source you used in the shot. It also helped that the ambient lighting was fluorescent as well, as you mentioned.

Thou you didn't really need to buy it, having a cold continuous light source is a nice addition to your equipment.

Now for that spanking :D

yes jay, you got it right, uh oh, just hit me..i guess thats where i bungled :) ..it was taken in a restaurant with fluorescent lights and wall washers with yellow tint..

mario_bes

10-04-2006, 01:38 PM

haha thanks jay,

its ok, im a good sport, i deserve that spanking..though i couldve made good use of the money for other equipment..

Hope the others learned a lesson from me thanks to a forum like this..It was my problem last year where i couldnt ask anybody else, actually i bought the cold lights the day before the shoot because i couldnt figure out the prob with my falcon eyes..Things were so hectic then i didnt have time to figure it out..

Well yeah it was a nice addition to my eqpt, and good thing its payed back itself na :)
Now to bring new life back to my falcon eyes hehe..

Really appreciate it jay..:)

christopher cortez

10-04-2006, 08:07 PM

that last comment from sir jay was simply pure genius hehehe.....something so simple, logical and yet i never thought about it.....super simple that it hurts :D

thanks again sir jay for the lesson

eyaramos

10-05-2006, 08:39 PM

hi guys! my husband is planning to buy any of these kits, though we're not sure if its worth it... i need your comments please...thanks so much!!!!

oh.. and by the way, the price is in singapore dollars...

thanks thanks again!

Plain White Muslin Backdrop 3m x 6m - $74

http://www.tagotech.com/pic/full-setup.jpg
Equipment Brand: studio lights from eastgear
Equipment Model: 3 Studio lights kit
Price (S$): 390.00
Description:
• 3 x 180W/S Studio Lights at Guide 42
• Recycling Time: 0.6 – 1.5s
• Flash Duration: 1/1000 – 1/1600s
• Color Temperature: 5200 – 5500K
• Modeling Light: 50W/200V

Equipments List:
• 3 x Lighting Stand
• 2 x Softbox
• 1 x Honey comb
• 1 x Lighting Stand Bag
• 1 x Studio Lights Bag

http://www.tagotech.com/pic/120-light-kit.jpg

ricardo_li

10-28-2006, 06:53 AM

with regards to your studio light kits.. better purchase them from aperture trading... your from the philippines dba?

kse para ok ung aftermarket service mo... studio lights yan eh... but with the background stands.. better get it in singapore... mukhang mas mura ata dun eh

Eric Dino

10-28-2006, 08:27 AM

Hi Eya,

If the recycling time is more than 1 sec. It is advisable to get a strobe light with an alarm so that you will not miss those important shots. With the temperature here in the Philippines and in doing long photoshoots and shooting outdoors in an uncontrollable environment, it is a better option to get a unit with a cooling fan. Make sure also that the input level is 50/60Hz for the power outlet.

jun_staana

10-28-2006, 09:12 AM

Am not an expert on this ... but just the same, try testing the studio flash and use a meter to see if you will be able to shoot at your desired aperture. Meaning, if you intend to do f8 to f16 (especially for group pictures), make sure you will be able to do so else the 120 watts might not be sufficient for your needs.

Richard Ledesma

10-28-2006, 09:49 AM

I sold my bowens monolight and I'm thinking of getting either- hensel integra kit, elinchrom d-lite 4 or 400bx to go kit or speedotron brown lines.

Sonny Thakur

10-28-2006, 09:52 AM

I agree with Eric about the proper cooling.
We were at OWG last thursday and due to the continuous flashing, one of the strobes burnt out. :(

Eric Dino

10-30-2006, 02:50 AM

@ Sonny,

What strobe lights did you use at OWG? I thought you were using the Hensel Studio Technik there? I know that it has a cooling fan already, if not you were probably using another brand. Another thing to consider is to have a body made of steel or aluminum, one of the studio lights at DPI was left unattended last year and the honeycomb snoot melted. Good thing, there was no fire and it was attended to promptly. The lights we are using there now have been upgraded. By the way, harsh shadows can be avoided by making sure that the subject is at least 3 feet away from the background.

@ Eya,

What are your shooting requirements? Are you planning to do head shots or half body only? You might have a difficult time shooting a whole body portrait with a 120 watts strobe unless you are planning to use a 3 to 4 lighting set-up with a big umbrella and reflectors.

MikeDougan

10-30-2006, 03:05 AM

I sold my bowens monolight and I'm thinking of getting either- hensel integra kit, elinchrom d-lite 4 or 400bx to go kit or speedotron brown lines.

Why did you sell the Bowens?? I was considering a set of these.

Mike

Mark_Tiangco

10-30-2006, 04:08 PM

Its interesting to note that the second kit has a warranty period of 2 WEEKS! I bought a cheap used 300W monolight recently to practice at home. One thing I miss compared to the lights I get to use in rented studios is the ability to vary the power output. If the first set of lights are the same (full power strobe) then you may want to try something else. I can just imaging trying to control the effect of 3 lights if they only fire at full power. :)

Sonny Thakur

11-04-2006, 08:57 PM

Eric,

The ones at OWG, I'm not sure what the brand was. The ones I used at Frank's was the Hensel lights. Those ones work EXTREMELY WELL. Nothing but praise for those lights!

Manuel Garcia

11-04-2006, 09:37 PM

I sold my bowens monolight and I'm thinking of getting either- hensel integra kit, elinchrom d-lite 4 or 400bx to go kit or speedotron brown lines.

Is there any difference between those brand when it come to light quality ? I thought light is light . :)

Sonny Thakur

11-04-2006, 09:41 PM

Manuel,
There are tons of differences. Flash recycle time, build quality, power output etc.
More expensive studio lights have more bells and whistles and are usually built better. (Though not always the case).

jerrytieng

11-04-2006, 09:57 PM

Once you start doing group shots at f/8 with the strobes 6~10ft back, you'll reliaze that 120WS strobes are underpowered. I'd go for at least 300ws, if not 500ws strobes.

Just my 0.02

Christence Mallari

12-01-2006, 04:06 PM

would you like to share your studio setting with the pictures and the size of your studio? I will be thankful if you can share! pls. only sa Pinas!

Jo Avila

12-03-2006, 01:02 AM

If you are asking about how the lights are positioned, the lighting modifiers and lighting ratio used, that's pretty much subjective depending on what has to be shot and the goals that have to be achieved.

Could you be more specific regarding the details of your query? :D

Now with regards to studio size. My studio is pretty small. My total floor space is about 80 square meters. About 40 square meters is used for the reception area, office and work area, mini library and storage. The other 40 square meters is the shooting area, make up area and comfort room. The width of my shooting area is about 12 feet. My ceiling is also about twelve feet high. I sometimes have to shoot from the make up area though if I am shooting portrait with a long lens.

Marco_Ingco

12-05-2006, 01:58 AM

pls. only sa Pinas!

Could you elaborate why "only sa Pinas!" (and with the exclamation mark to boot)? Is there a difference in lighting studios in the phils and in other countries?

Just asking.

Christence Mallari

12-08-2006, 12:38 AM

I need to change my question. pls. if possible show me your studio.
thanks in advance.

Jo Avila

12-08-2006, 09:57 AM

Let me simply this. My accent light is usually just as strong or around one stop stronger than my main light. The accent light that I use is usually harsher than my main light - so it doesn't have to be that strong to produce a good highlight. I don't use my snoot for accent light purposes. I either use a bare bulb flash tube with a spillkill attached or a softbox whose size is smaller than the softbox attached to my mainlight.

The power ratio of my accent light is dependent upon what I want to achieve and the strength of my main light.

Nick_Espino

12-09-2006, 09:04 AM

Here's where I am almost every weekdays. Size is 22' X 60' X 15' (width/length/height). The walls, floor and ceiling used to be 18% grey but I had it painted black when I took the position with the agency. Equipments are what you would expect to find in a commercial studio.

Sorry for the crappy snapshot as I didn't want to bother an intern test shooting something....

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/2447/studio2ww2.jpg

jojo_mamangun

12-09-2006, 10:14 AM

whoa!!! how i wish i could work with that space.

Christence Mallari

12-09-2006, 03:19 PM

Thanks Nick! simple as that asking only pic. or size of your studio. Mabuhay Philippines!

martin_cp_valeriano

12-10-2006, 11:03 AM

man oh man....

someday.... someday....

:)

mhonreaport

12-10-2006, 04:25 PM

Hi, I just would like to get some advice on starting a studio. I'm deciding on getting either a two 300w/s Lights or a two 600w/s Lights? What will be a wise decision? I plan to concentrate on portraits (full body) and product shots. Hope you can shed some light. Thank you.

Mhon

Teejay Joson

12-10-2006, 04:32 PM

mhon,

you can get some ideas by checking this earlier thread http://www.digitalphotographer.com.ph/forum/showthread.php?t=2726

Christence Mallari

12-10-2006, 05:10 PM

if you start with the two light atleast you have litepanel or white board lang ok na (for fill) so the one light for main light and you can use the other for background light or hair light etc.. if money is not issue 3 or 4 light high watts with softbox was fine.(more is better) sa product shoot may pinagawa akong plexiglass the link . http://www.flickr.com/photos/40857888@N00/?saved=1
the light behind and the bottom was canon flash with softbox and 100ws strobe. sana nakatulong ito.

mhonreaport

12-10-2006, 05:15 PM

Thanks TeeJay and Christence. Dami pala paraan para mag DIY. More Advices welcome.

David Tong

12-10-2006, 06:03 PM

Chirstence: Awesome flickr hehe, lupet ng "float" ng product shots :D

franz victoria

12-10-2006, 06:31 PM

Christence Mallari

12-10-2006, 09:30 PM

nasa Israel ako so sa pera natin ay 4000 pesos but possible more less kasi dito mahal ang mga bilihin. idea lang yung plexiglass. I saw some factory dito ng plexiglass then I asked them to make me one like that shape. some Israeli pumunta rin doon to buy dahil sa idea ko at naka save pa sila ng money. the owner (factory) called me to come and give me back the half of the price I paid b'cos I gave them costumer of that idea. Mabuhay tayo PINOY! FILIPINO, FILIPINO.....

franz victoria

12-10-2006, 10:21 PM

raymondgayondato

12-10-2006, 10:45 PM

wow! great idea! ;)

i dont know where to buy a plexi glass, but if its the same with acrylic sheets, glass shops like Aguila in kamias QC (+ 3 other more shops around the area) has one! they come in different sizes and thickness.

Christence Mallari

12-11-2006, 01:41 AM

David Tong

12-11-2006, 01:19 PM

Well, I wont have issues purchasing plexi/acrylic sheets since my friend has tons of those for his business... Christence, can you share the details of the table's construction?

Is the white backdrop sandwiched between a regular table and the acrylic sheet?

Christence Mallari

12-11-2006, 02:28 PM

ito ang size http://www.flickr.com/photos/40857888@N00/319320928/
I used before white paper (good quality) but you need to setup a lot. sa plexiglass very easy to use pa at easy to edit rin. minsan nga hindi na kailangan edit pa croping nalang. this design was same as manfrotto link http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=NavBar&A=search&Q=&ci=6333&bsi=3

David Tong

12-11-2006, 02:58 PM

thanks thanks :)

franz victoria

12-11-2006, 04:24 PM

parang fiber glass siya (white) at ang thinkness ay 1/2cm. Ray, let me know kung mag work doon sa address na sinasabi mo. size 80cm lapad 60cm haba 60 taas at 20cm yung small. recommend ko if possible 100cm lapad, 100cm haba, 80 taas at 30 yung small fold.

went to a glass store a while ago...they have a couple of plexiglass available what should i buy the thick one or the thin one? :) also for the set up i saw at b&h some of the tables have two plexiglass one white and one clear plexiglass on the top, whats the pupose of the clear plexiglass?

Christence Mallari

12-11-2006, 10:27 PM

franz victoria

12-12-2006, 08:21 PM

buy the white one and the thickness 1/2cm. the clear one is used for seamless (white) paper background (whole body shot) and they put this in the floor to have reflection to the subject. check my pic. 1D 28-300mmL. siguru mura ang clear kaysa sa white no? Fanz, share naman kung magkano ang price. Thanks

here are the prices guys....

for the white plexiglass 100php/1ft. for the clear plexiglass 80php/1ft.

these are for the 1/2cm. thickness

*additional labor for the bending of the plexiglass....:Thinking:

Christence Mallari

12-12-2006, 09:50 PM

franz victoria

12-12-2006, 10:20 PM

Franz, good information ang price at cheap pala :}. saan pala ang location of store? or phone no.? thanks sa lahat! sa May (2007) mag for good na ako sa Pinas and do photography business din. hope one day will meet you sa mga events or any seminars.

hi sir! the store is in laguna, im from laguna kasi...:D i bet you can find them on other glass stores...if youre having trouble finding one just let me know, ill help you out...:Grin: hope to see you soon sir! :D

rudytolentino

12-31-2006, 08:30 PM

CHEAP STUDIO SET UP

Here is what I have done to learn studio lighting as a hobby.
For half-body studio, I used floodlights halogen tungsten in my 20 ft wide x 20 ft
length x 8 ft height living room.

2- 500 watts placed side by side for main light
1- 500 watts for fill light
1- 500 watts for hairlight
1- 500 watts for background light (low key)
1- 1000 watts for background light (high key)

wide width white cotton cloth you can buy at divisoria
wide width black velvet you can buy at divisoria
I have made my 18" x 18" and 24" x 24" softboxes with nylon cloth
and 2- diffussion panels made of nylon mounted on 1/2 inch pvc pipe
structure

Continous lighting using halogen tungsten is really hot, but this was what
that were used before the electronic flash by the professional photographers.
With two electric fan you will be ok.

Yes continous light will not be bright enough for fast shutter speed. For
portrait, you have to use a tripod and shutter release cable.

Shoot raw so you can easily correct your white balance.

I find this the cheapest way to learn studio lighting.

dindin_lagdameo

12-31-2006, 08:43 PM

How much for a decent studio set-up? Cheap?

Minimum floor area? Height clearance?

EDISON L. MADRIDEO

12-31-2006, 09:37 PM

Guys, I love this thread a lot!

Since I am just a beginner, can somebody help me as well in buying the appropriate/correct gears (cheapest ha!) in setting up a studio (i.e. SoftBox, Strobes, Hair Lights, Reflectors...etc. and its quantity. Even the room dimension for the setup.)

My idea is to have a General Set Up... for Still Life, Portrait and Full Body Shot.

Appreciate your utmost reply!!! Many thanks! :)

dindin_lagdameo

01-01-2007, 11:33 AM

@Jay A.

I need help on setting up a mini studio (for products and food mostly). What is the ideal or basic, decent or cheap set-up? What's a good budget?

christopher cortez

01-01-2007, 01:40 PM

hey din, wouldnt the falcon eyes set or the set suggested by sir ken go before be good enough for your mini studio?

can i suggest a light box?

dindin_lagdameo

01-02-2007, 08:52 AM

@Christence

nice set-up... what are the table legs' specs?

Christence Mallari

01-02-2007, 06:31 PM

Thanks Dindin! yung mga legs ay ordinary wood lang pero you can fold ba. ready made kung binili yun at I think makakita karin diyan. kahit ano bastat ma put mo ang table at mga light puedi na. Happy New Year to all!

dindin_lagdameo

01-02-2007, 08:52 PM

thanks, christence... i may have to have a carpenter make this.

cris_servillas

01-05-2007, 09:11 AM

this is my sample setup for a product shoot. i cant attach bigger softboxes since ive got a small space. now im happy to get a mini boom arm so i could setup my main light directly on top of my subject.

for three light setup...

main light F/11
fill light F/5.6(2-stops down)
highlights F/8(1-stop down)

but still it varies on the mood that i need.:)

http://www.photo.net.ph/albums/userpics/11892/normal_light_set-up.jpg

Richard Ledesma

01-26-2007, 09:45 PM

Heavy! I do more on location shoot.

Why did you sell the Bowens?? I was considering a set of these.

Mike

Richard Ledesma

01-26-2007, 09:48 PM

No, They have color corrected flash tube. What I'm aftering is the weight.

Is there any difference between those brand when it come to light quality ? I thought light is light . :)

Mark Ortaliz

02-05-2007, 11:28 AM

how much would all of that equipment cost? but seriously, what are the equipments you would need to setup a small time studio? and how much would they cost?

wesvillarica

03-03-2007, 05:36 AM

how much would all of that equipment cost? but seriously, what are the equipments you would need to setup a small time studio? and how much would they cost?

Your cost would be dependent on the brand of lights and equipment you use. I think some chinese brands would cost around 30 to 50k for a set of two 300W strobes including some light modifiers. Top brands (such as Visatec and Broncolor) cost 110k-300k depending on the power of the lights you buy.

Then there's rental to consider, plus your product table (v. cheap if you construct your own), and lighting supports, plus you computer, software, printer, etc. etc. and the list goes on...

carlo_atadero

04-11-2007, 09:35 PM

I just got my room cleaned this afternoon becauseI intend to make it into a small studio.

Since Im just a student, money is a big factor. So my plan is to make most of my lighting equipment. Ive been searching the net for DIY studio lighting articles and have found a lot of them here (http://www.diyphotography.net).

The projects that Im going to do is a DIY Softbox, DIY Reflector.

I went to SM to check the prices of the materials that I will need...

Halogen flood light without stand(500W) - 300 to 400ph

Halogen flood light with stand(500W) - 1.2K

My room is quite small and from the info I have gathered most DIY lighting can only go for portrait or close-up shot but my goal is if I can take full body shots with DIY lighting.

Will a single Halogen flood light will do for a small room?

What are alternatives for Halogen flood lights?

Is there any other place where I can get cheaper Halogen flood lights?

I intend to keep this post updated about the progress of my DIY Studio.

Florencio de la Merced, J

04-13-2007, 09:24 AM

Small room + continuous lighting = heat. I think that's the biggest drawback often mentioned with flood/continuous lighting.

Ronnel Cuison

04-13-2007, 10:17 AM

Carlo, I use sets of continuous florescent lights which I bought from avenue photo at Hidalgo. The spiral florescent lights works perfect when shooting at home, not much heat are emitted from the lamps. I was lucky to have bought 3 set (reflector, stand and sucket) for only less than 10k. But now it's more expenssive. The bulb cost about 600 which are sold separately.

Or, you can use lamshades that are tall, with the long thin flourescent lamps. Buy 2 and it will serve you well.

Here is one of the photos i shot with the lights from hidalgo. Onyok was shot using 2 lampshades and the other players using the lights from Avenue.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/167/447292260_f215df3f5b_o.jpg

mario_bes

04-13-2007, 10:50 AM

Ronnel Cuison

04-13-2007, 12:23 PM

@mario

Single bulb each. To increase the intensity, I used a twin sucket or receptacle or whatever (its shaped like a letter " Y "). This will allow 2 lamps to fit in 1 dish (included in the set). I use this 2 lamp head as key light and the single bulb as the fill.

rudytolentino

04-13-2007, 12:53 PM

CHEAP STUDIO SET UP

Here is what I have done to learn studio lighting as a hobby.
For half-body portrait studio, I used floodlights - halogen tungsten in my 20 ft wide x 20 ft
length x 8 ft height living room.

2- 500 watts placed together side by side for main light
1- 500 watts for fill light
1- 500 watts for hairlight
1- 500 watts for background light (low key)
1- 1000 watts for background light (high key)

wide width white cotton cloth you can buy at divisoria
wide width black velvet you can buy at divisoria
I made my 18" x 18" and 24" x 24" softboxes with nylon cloth with aluminum bar structure
and 2- diffussion panels made of nylon mounted on 1/2 inch pvc pipe
structure

Continous lighting using halogen tungsten is really hot, but this was what
were being used before the electronic flash by the professional photographers.
With two electric fans you will be ok.

Yes continous light will not be bright enough for fast shutter speed. For
portrait, you have to use a tripod and shutter release cable.

Shoot raw so you can easily correct your white balance.

I find this the cheapest way to learn studio lighting.
Online http://www.digitalphotographer.com.ph/forum/../fB_Dark/buttons/edit.gif (http://www.digitalphotographer.com.ph/forum/editpost.php?do=editpost&p=73306)

mario_bes

04-13-2007, 01:04 PM

Roger Pantuca

04-13-2007, 01:46 PM

I have a couple of halogen lamps in the house, I usually turn them on when I have visitors in the house and we're taking a group picture. They improve the pictures but they're really not bright enough.

Once I was able to try external flashes, I haven't used my halogen lamps since. Got a used flash for as low as P150, I just attach an optical receiver that I got from Hidalgo for P320. I also have a white shower curtain lying around, its P230 at the mall, it looks like the same material used in shoot-through umbrellas. I tried taping it to the ceiling and shot a flash behind it to simulate a shoot-through umbrella and it seems to do quite well, though I only tried it in testing.

Ronnel Cuison

04-13-2007, 01:48 PM

@ Mario

Thanks :)

carlo_atadero

04-14-2007, 12:01 AM

CHEAP STUDIO SET UP

Here is what I have done to learn studio lighting as a hobby.
For half-body portrait studio, I used floodlights - halogen tungsten in my 20 ft wide x 20 ft
length x 8 ft height living room.

2- 500 watts placed together side by side for main light
1- 500 watts for fill light
1- 500 watts for hairlight
1- 500 watts for background light (low key)
1- 1000 watts for background light (high key)

wide width white cotton cloth you can buy at divisoria
wide width black velvet you can buy at divisoria
I made my 18" x 18" and 24" x 24" softboxes with nylon cloth with aluminum bar structure
and 2- diffussion panels made of nylon mounted on 1/2 inch pvc pipe
structure

Continous lighting using halogen tungsten is really hot, but this was what
were being used before the electronic flash by the professional photographers.
With two electric fans you will be ok.

Yes continous light will not be bright enough for fast shutter speed. For
portrait, you have to use a tripod and shutter release cable.

Shoot raw so you can easily correct your white balance.

I find this the cheapest way to learn studio lighting.
Online http://www.digitalphotographer.com.ph/forum/../fB_Dark/buttons/edit.gif

Sir I think my room is a lot smaller than yours, yung flood lights po ba na ginamit niyo yung square ang shape? kasi I went to acer may nakita rin akong flood light na bilog.

kengo

04-14-2007, 12:42 AM

For whole body shot, I guess continous are ok, but for head shots, this much light will cause your models' pupils to get really small, not as attractive as large pupils.

Try getting cheap non branded flashes for under 1k and get adapters to use an umbrella with it, at least you can use a fast shutter speed and avoid camera shake.

rudytolentino

04-14-2007, 03:30 AM

Sir I think my room is a lot smaller than yours, yung flood lights po ba na ginamit niyo yung square ang shape? kasi I went to acer may nakita rin akong flood light na bilog.
'yung rectangle 'omni' ang brand. sa teodora alonzo sa likod ng arranque market sa recto P200-P250 lang ang bili ko sa 500 watts.

you need a high wattage lamp to get a brighter light. if the cicular(bilog) tungsten light is 500 watts and same price as the rectangle, get it if you like a cicular catch light (using it without softbox or diffusion panel).

sample picture using halogen tungsten floodlights with softbox- post processed using photoshop
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/93/206077721_5e247f492d.jpg?v=0

carlo_atadero

04-14-2007, 12:10 PM

kengo

04-15-2007, 01:51 AM

Try YSEN, their price list has some generic flashes listed from P.500 to P. 1,100

carlo_atadero

04-15-2007, 06:09 PM

Try YSEN, their price list has some generic flashes listed from P.500 to P. 1,100

Sa hidalgo po ba meron nito? I plan on going there next week since pasukan ko na rin:Grin:

michael ryan lim

05-25-2007, 06:56 PM

Hans_Corral

05-26-2007, 02:26 AM

I'm Planning to setup a Studio and I need help on what equipments to buy.
My Budget is 80k(for the equipment)

Jo Avila

05-26-2007, 09:31 AM

It would depend on what you intend to shoot, budget and the size of the shooting area.

But I'm going to recommend that you purchase a incident lightmeter before anything else. The Sekonic L-308s is a good incident lightmeter that represents value for money.

Cheers!

Jo Avila

dindin_lagdameo

05-26-2007, 09:34 AM

@Jo

I, too, am interested in finding out the basic set-up. I'm actually done with my portable Nikon CLS set-up.

And, I need to learn how to use my lightmeter. Help!

Peter Jaena

05-26-2007, 09:39 AM

Hi DPP memebers!

I would like to ask the Pro on what items i should buy in putting a studio in my house and what are the specific brands. Hope that you can help me with this one. Tnx.:)

Michael Ryan Lim

It will all depend on how much you are willing to spend for your home studio. Give us numbers so we can recommend brands that are within your price range.:)

Basic setup (3 flash heads)

1 main light - softbox
1 fill light - umbrella
1 hair light - snoot

Peter Jaena

05-26-2007, 09:41 AM

@Jo

I, too, am interested in finding out the basic set-up. I'm actually done with my portable Nikon CLS set-up.

And, I need to learn how to use my lightmeter. Help!

Wow nice Din, I"m planning on a CLS setup too. Can you share your setup?:)

Jo Avila

05-26-2007, 09:41 AM

I wouldn't really recommend a snoot for hairlight purposes. I've found a small softbox (60x60 or smaller) or honeycomb grids to be more versatile for accent lighting purposes.

Cheers!

Jo Avila

basil carating

05-26-2007, 10:32 AM

@Jo

I, too, am interested in finding out the basic set-up. I'm actually done with my portable Nikon CLS set-up.

And, I need to learn how to use my lightmeter. Help!

hi dindin.

why don't you organize a studio eb. i;ve got lighting equipment galore that you guys can play with. got 4 -1600 watts/second white lightnings, 4 800 watts second whitelightnings, numerous multiblitzes, lightboxes, umbrellas, grids, wind machine, smoke machines, gels. triflectors. bookends, flags, gobos etc etc. you guys choose the location- a warehouse or condo or hotel function room and i'll be there with the stuff. includes lessons on basic lighting from moi! and for free!! sort of a transfer of knowledge before the retirement home snatches me from the scene. invite the masters too so we could explore advanced and experimental stuff too. chance for the guys to experience studio set up. just bring your cameras-triggers will be provided too. we could photographed each other. no need to bring models but are welcome if you could provide. bring children too. i could show you guys a trick or two. remember- this is a one time offer from 358 RUE GLAMOUR, my studio (still in the making) ha-ha!

michael ryan lim

05-26-2007, 12:30 PM

Thanks To You Guys!:) I Really Appreciate It.

Rolando Avecilla

05-26-2007, 01:13 PM

Very generous offer, Mr. Carating!

So what say you, guys?

:D :D

hi dindin.

why don't you organize a studio eb. i;ve got lighting equipment galore that you guys can play with. got 4 -1600 watts/second white lightnings, 4 800 watts second whitelightnings, numerous multiblitzes, lightboxes, umbrellas, grids, wind machine, smoke machines, gels. triflectors. bookends, flags, gobos etc etc. you guys choose the location- a warehouse or condo or hotel function room and i'll be there with the stuff. includes lessons on basic lighting from moi! and for free!! sort of a transfer of knowledge before the retirement home snatches me from the scene. invite the masters too so we could explore advanced and experimental stuff too. chance for the guys to experience studio set up. just bring your cameras-triggers will be provided too. we could photographed each other. no need to bring models but are welcome if you could provide. bring children too. i could show you guys a trick or two. remember- this is a one time offer from 358 RUE GLAMOUR, my studio (still in the making) ha-ha!

troy monsod

05-26-2007, 01:14 PM

hey there, very much interested and could bring some models. not the high end ones though, more on the college crush hotties, hahaha :)

Rolando Avecilla

05-26-2007, 01:17 PM

Me, I get by using the basic Falcone Eyes set. It really depends on what you'd like to shoot and your work area. I set I use is just enough for half body portraits. The set is more than enough for some product shots.

I have to Light Meter yet. I am still saving up for the light meter model that Sir Jo has mentioned.

:D

Hi DPP memebers!

I would like to ask the Pro on what items i should buy in putting a studio in my house and what are the specific brands. Hope that you can help me with this one. Tnx.:)

Michael Ryan Lim

basil carating

05-26-2007, 03:11 PM

Very generous offer, Mr. Carating!

So what say you, guys?

:D :D

so organize it guys- aside from the lighting equipment, i've got 35 years of experience teaching the craft under my belt. we could pick each other's brains. i want to learn from you too!

and troy, yes do bring your models. we'll explore posing techniques- triangles, diamonds, ovals etc. we'll have props - genuine leather riding chaps and authentic tony lama cowboy boots just arrived from texas. oh imagine them on those models in conjunction with a smoke machine.. hehe. we'll have triflectors for those magazine type cover close-ups. i'll show you how to use them too. just grab me two slices of pizza and a coke and i'll be roarin' set the time- we could go for 24 hrs straight if you want- my stuff is yours to play with. bring your children, you lola your neighbours- i might have a kodak 8x10 dye sub printer too by then.

Ric Manzano

05-26-2007, 03:22 PM

Im interested to join and learn from that EB. please organize it na.. I'll start it with preliminary list.

1. Ric Manzano

basil carating

05-26-2007, 03:31 PM

Im interested to join and learn from that EB. please organize it na.. I'll start it with preliminary list.

1. Ric Manzano

attaboy ric- might as well take advantage of me. thing is you gotta work out a venue. i would gladly offer my studio but it's still under construction.

Ric Manzano

05-26-2007, 03:36 PM

ill see what i can do with the venue...Venue? any one? hihihihi

NIXZER MOYA

05-26-2007, 07:21 PM

Wow, this is interesting, i really would like to learn basic studio lighting setup...

reybaptista

05-26-2007, 09:57 PM

hi basil et al,

if ya'al don't mind a 'lil drive, i can probably save us a spot here in our village at ayala westgrove heights. you get here via SANTA ROSA exit on SLEX; about 40km from makati; 40-45mins from THE FORT in global city. let me know if that works for the majority, if it doesn't it's okay, i completely understand. please let me know so i can work on the arrangements. thanks!

basil carating

05-27-2007, 12:06 AM

NIXZER MOYA

05-27-2007, 10:07 PM

might work for me if it's ok with the rest- what kind of a venue is it? a function room? a large hall?

Now there's a suggested venue :) It's ok with me...

Nino Estrada

05-27-2007, 10:31 PM

if its here in the south, count me in:)

basil carating

05-27-2007, 10:34 PM

if its here in the south, count me in:)

we'll touch on weddings a little bit too, nino.

Mars Paruli

05-27-2007, 10:39 PM

Guys, can i join? I want to learn as much as I can.

Miguel Vecin

05-27-2007, 10:40 PM

I can offer any of my Digiprint stores that have studios - just give me your size requirements, time etc....

Nino Estrada

05-27-2007, 10:41 PM

we'll touch on weddings a little bit too, nino.

ngek, im still not qualified to be called a wedding photographer (amateur work compared to the pros we have here) , just someone who's into photography and eager to learn.:) hope this pushes thru.

basil carating

05-27-2007, 11:05 PM

I can offer any of my Digiprint stores that have studios - just give me your size requirements, time etc....

oh thank you so much miguel- what i had in mind is a space big enough so at least 30 people could comfortably breathe. how big is your typical studio? i always believe that during training, there should only be 1 photographer behind the camera and the others on the sidelines observing. eye direction is a very very important part of my training. i'm ISTRIKTO!- if they want to learn the right way. when i was doing consultancy work for a chain of studios in the states in 1989, i caused the demise of more than 200 jobs because i recommended that the company get rid of all their studio "wranglers".

Miguel Vecin

05-27-2007, 11:09 PM

basil carating

05-27-2007, 11:26 PM

Basil - wow 30 people...dont think we will fit in our studios..they are relatively small bec our stores are not that big in the Malls.

I do have one studio in BF Homes Paranaque thats around 25 to 30 sqm..not sure if that will be enough..

wow thanks again, miguel- that is so generous of you! i was gonna challenge these guys to a marathon workshop so an ideal place would be like a community hall or a condo or hotel function room so they are relaxed, can walk around and not couped up in a windowless room (studio) for an extended period. also i want to show and teach them how to set up and tear down equipment. now if you offer 10 large pizzas, i don't think the guys would refuse- are we guys? HA-HA--just joking. thanks again, miguel- you're definitely a Gentleman with a capital G!

Miguel Vecin

05-27-2007, 11:36 PM

No prob...anytime. If you need anything just let me know :)

Your right. couped up in a studio for long period of time will not be soo good...he he..

basil carating

05-27-2007, 11:49 PM

No prob...anytime. If you need anything just let me know :)

Your right. couped up in a studio for long period of time will not be soo good...he he..

but you are also invited to share your expertise or i can even talk to your studio guys -let's pick each other's brain.

manny villafuerte

05-28-2007, 01:56 PM

let's move on this guys- free workshop! hehe

jay_alonzo

05-28-2007, 07:39 PM

Hans, seems like a major decision for you. send me an email and tell me your concerns and plan. btw, might be in bacolod july. by then your studio would be finished. i'd like to check it out then.

I'm Planning to setup a Studio and I need help on what equipments to buy.
My Budget is 80k(for the equipment)

dindin_lagdameo

05-28-2007, 09:01 PM

basil carating

05-28-2007, 09:44 PM

@basil

wow, 30 people? too big, don't you think? i'm already dreading the popping and overheating lights!!!

sorry to be a bit pessimistic but based on previous workshops and studio shoots with friends, more than 4 photographers using the same set of lights can really be scary.

i'm just concerned with your equipment.

hi dindin,

ha-ha you may be right but my last expedition in davao went like this:
1. shot 615 families
2. 4 poses per family
3. 4 frames per pose
4. equals 9,840 exposures
although it was done in 13 days, the lights don't even feel warm to the touch every night we tear down the equipment. i can swear by the WHITE LIGHTNINGS- proudly made by our good ol' buddy paul buff in good ol' nashville,tennesee. seriously, i have 2 white lightning units that i haven't even changed the flashtubes in 13 years. with the grace of God, we'll be able to show some stuff to as many guys as we can handle with no untoward incidents. i mean to inject pre-sell, subliminal selling, posing, composition, and other tips not found in any book. and don't worry, i'm used to handling classes of 30 or more. so move on this guys, miguel has promised us his kind assistance!

dindin_lagdameo

05-28-2007, 10:32 PM

what i meant was... shooting simultaneously. :-) GIGIL factor.

basil carating

05-28-2007, 10:46 PM

what i meant was... shooting simultaneously. :-) GIGIL factor.

with all due respect, that's what i find basically baffling with some workshops-letting trainees shoot at the same time. in the real studio world, there is only one photographer, one captain of the studio- and he or she alone must get the full attention of the subject. i find attending workshops with more than one trainee shooting at a time utterly useless-all for the convenience of the trainer.

Winston Baltasar

05-28-2007, 11:06 PM

Gigil talaga. Can anyone suggest a date, please?

troy monsod

05-29-2007, 06:02 PM

basil carating

05-29-2007, 06:52 PM

hey all,

pardon me, was in a workshop in antipolo for a couple of days. anyway, we could have this thing per batches if you guys want. i got a lot of models to go around naman needing setcards e, hahaha :) as for place, we could just probably just have it in someones house (since konti lang the peeps if per batch) or worse comes to worse, i could reserve a place in the ateneo high school since i work there naman (hopefully not naman very far, hehe). so first things first, lets get a date and the total number of people going. then lets divide per batch and set shoot dates. this is quite fun and am also nangigigil na rin, haha :)

so heres the official list:

1. Troy Monsod

as for dates, lets make them saturday shoots so it would be convenient to most peeps. and lets do plan ahead so we could clear our calendars :)

thanks for your enthusiasm troy- but i cannot promise you a per batch/per weekend deal. i got to work and feed the family too, you know-- he-he. it's got to be a one day deal and i don't mind if you take a whole day. it couldn't be in someone's house either because there is about 250 lbs. of equipment to be set up. an ideal venue , like i said, would be a hotel function room, a community center or as you suggested and if you can pull it, a school conference hall-preferrably air-conditioned. so if you can put together 15 or more guys and gals willing to get down and dirty- let's go for it!

re models: i hate to burst your bubble but my sessions are straightforwrd no-nonsense boot camps. when the word models is mentioned in a workshop, attendees immediately picture waify long-legged, exotic drop-dead gorgeous creatures- and i aim to change that. i want to show you the basics first and i can only show them to you if we have groups, families, kids, mataba, payat, matangkad , pandak--in other words let's start where we should start- the basics. your idea of models strike avant garde sexy poses and avant garde poses are poses that have broken the basic rules. you gotta know the rules before you can break them otherwise your photographs will all look like mistakes. don't get me wrong though, your models are welcome and we'll provide them with their pictures after the "workshop"

FerdinandArquero

05-29-2007, 08:38 PM

1. Troy Monsod
2. Ferdinand Arquero

oyiedelapaz

05-30-2007, 12:44 PM

1. Troy Monsod
2. Ferdinand Arquero
3. Oyie dela Paz

Mr Basil, Will a clubhouse do as a venue? There's one where I live but the thing is it's not a/ced. It has open windows and it's on the second floor but it's big enough to accomodate even 80 people. If this will do, I can arrange it.

Thanks.

reybaptista

05-30-2007, 02:37 PM

hi folks,

sorry for not following through right away. it's one thing after another; i just got our DSL back after almost a week of being down.

regarding our village ayala westgrove heights. we have 3 different clubhouses where we can gather 100-300 in each. we have a choice of airconditioned or not. the airconditioned halls will cost us something. but there's a hall in our sports center which i might be able to avail with little or no charge. although it's not airconditioned, it's breezy enough to handle even 200 people without being too warm.

troy monsod

05-30-2007, 07:21 PM

hey there peeps,

@ Rey

ayala westgrove is in alabang right, not in ayala heights?

@Oyie

if the place is in QC, that would be great :)

@Basil

as for the batch things Sir, as long as the place would accomodate us all, no prob for me :) a for the basics thing, im good with that too :) you lead Sir and we will follow, haha :)

oyiedelapaz

05-30-2007, 07:26 PM

Troy, I live in Taguig... relatively near to Fort Bonifacio.

basil carating

05-30-2007, 09:02 PM

hey oyie and rey,

again thanks for your enthusiasm- you guys talk it among yourselves which venue is convenient for everybody and whichever you choose, well be there. remember, we'll be there to have fun-first and foremost. with your gung-ho, there's no doubting that. we could take portraits of each other and also i invite you to bring kids too. troy, bring your models. like i said we'll endeavour tog ive em' photos for their portfolios and what not. talk to your network and your friends-invite more guys.. the more the merrier

reybaptista

05-30-2007, 10:46 PM

hi all,

like i said in my orig post, i can totally understand if the majority would prefer a venue within metro area. ayala westgrove heights is located in silang cavite (exit santa rosa from SLEX); it's about 40km from makati; my average drive from makati takes about 40-45mins.

there's plenty of room to move around even if there'll more than 100 of us. but do let me know so i can make the necessary arrangements.

again, i favor the venue that's more convenient for the attendees. folks, you better speak up so we can finalize this event.

Mars Paruli

05-31-2007, 02:24 AM

1. Troy Monsod
2. Ferdinand Arquero
3. Oyie dela Paz
4. Mars Paruli - very much interested to learn from you guys

fidel_mercado

06-01-2007, 07:15 AM

Will watch this thread. :D Or should a new one be made given that the OT topic?

kencarpio

06-01-2007, 09:46 AM

this would be fun.... im looking forward for this to push thru.

if only someone could come up with a venue that's accessible to most of the attendees.... even if we have to chip-in on the incidental expenses (venue, refreshments,etc). still worth it since the equipment will be provided by sir basil, and he will be the resource speaker, as well.... and that's for free!

NIXZER MOYA

06-02-2007, 01:13 AM

Tristan Peña

06-05-2007, 08:33 PM

My friend's asking for my help in setting up lights for a photo studio. His budget is about P50,000. Is that enough? Whaat do you recommend?

The studio will be located in the Visayas and will cater to those seeking portraits, weddings etc.

Jo Avila

06-06-2007, 02:02 AM

SUNNY P. SANTOS

06-06-2007, 08:14 AM

The budget seems sufficient enough. It all depends on how he wants to allocate the money for which piece of gear :D

Why not contact Frank Tsai of Aperture Trading? He should be able to give you a bit of advice regarding budget and what gear is needed or will fit the budget.

Cheers!

Jo Avila

Thanks for the information Mr. Avila. I've been looking for a supplier for studio lights for quite sometime now. I emailed the store located at Banaue and I hope they will respond.

Alfred Racho

06-06-2007, 08:33 AM

I've met Frank very briefly... he was busy talking to some other client who was setting up a studio... so I did what every self-respecting hobbyist would do: let Frank entertain his customer... and eavesdrop... ha ha!

First thing I would like to say is that Frank has great lighting stuff: lights, soft boxes, stands, backgrounds, etc... while you could go shopping for lights elsewhere, I can definitely say that his selection is (way) more than enough for a simple (and even complex) studio setup.

Second thing I would like to say is that, while eavesdropping, Frank was very good in his advice: he wouldn't necessarily sell the most expensive stuff -- he wwas actually asking questions on what the use would be, and would explain the capabilities of each system, to better tailor what he sells to the customer. In other words, in the few minutes I was eavesdropping, he isn't making a one time sale -- he was showing excellent customer service (and giving technical feedback) -- I'm sure that guy would be a repeat customer.

Third thing I would like to say: his prices are competitive. So go stock up on lighting equipment from Aperture.

Last thing to say: this is not a paid endorsement or anything like that. :)

jay_alonzo

06-10-2007, 12:20 AM

You may also want to contact Wilson Lu of Avenue Photo in Hidalgo, Quiapo. At least, you'll have more options in terms of pricing. Avenue's level of service is also just as great.

My friend's asking for my help in setting up lights for a photo studio. His budget is about P50,000. Is that enough? Whaat do you recommend?

The studio will be located in the Visayas and will cater to those seeking portraits, weddings etc.

Eric Dino

06-10-2007, 06:06 AM

Hi Tristan,

Just like Frank and Wilson, I met this guy last year and his name is Ackerly Chua of Tai Hua Trading in Binondo, Manila. A good salesman is not someone who sells you products but someone who would give you solutions to your problems or needs. The two Gentlemen mentioned provide world-class products and services.

The products that Ackerly is selling might be assembled in China but the parts like the main strobes are from Germany. You just have to find your way around Binondo unlike in Quiapo and Banawe which is more accessible. By the way, when dealing and paying in cash, you can always ask for a discount.

Edwin Falconi

06-10-2007, 06:26 AM

Hi,

Where in Banawe is Aperture located?

Thanks

Eric Dino

06-10-2007, 06:36 AM

Hi Edwin,

I left my addressbook in the house and I am still in the office right now. You can try to visit this website - aperturetrading.com. The information you need is there. Just look for Frank and he will be more than glad to assist you. Best Regards.

Jo Avila

06-10-2007, 08:08 AM

@ Edwin

Aperture is located near National Orthopedic Hospital. They are two buildings before the hospital (right beside KFC).

Look for Prosperity Center. They are in the Penthouse (5/f).

Cheers!

Jo Avila

Edwin Falconi

06-10-2007, 08:39 AM

Thanks, Jo & Eric.

jay_alonzo

06-12-2007, 10:04 AM

Aperture is located at the 5th floor of the Prosperity Center building. It's located near the National Orthopedic. If you are along Banawe coming from Quezon Avenue, the building is at your left, just before you reach the hospital.

To be specific, it is next to a Yellow Cab outlet. As a marker, the building has an Allied Bank and a Banco de Oro branch at the ground floor. Parking is a hassle here for both banks have reserved their spaces for their clients.

Enter the building thru the driveway at the center of the building. if the guard asks you where you're going, just tell him to Aperture. take the elevator which is located to your right. They are open Monday to Saturday.

Hi,

Where in Banawe is Aperture located?

Thanks

Edwin Falconi

06-12-2007, 06:06 PM

Pat dela torre

07-08-2007, 11:14 PM

HELLO TO EVERYONE,

Ive been eavesdropping in this forum for quite some time now and I can see how blessed people are in this endeavor. Well anyway, ive been dreaming to have my own studio some day , well by God's grace I know i'll have one, but i dont know what lighting equipment i need to save money for. So, for all you blessed people out there,successful photographers-entrepreneurs., would you mind sharing your blessings by giving me a rundown of all the equipment i need? =) I'd like also to know what brand,where cn i find it, and estimated price... pagninilaynilayan ko kase =) I hope i didnt sound too demanding.... super thank you.

1. err?
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.

Earl Gonzalez

07-09-2007, 06:50 AM

mmmmmmmmm... Brief run down... Your chosen camera system; A set of dedicated lenses; A reliable fast workstation; Extra CF cards; External HDDs for storage; Reflectors; Stands; Lighting system; Backgrounds... etc. etc. :) If I remember it correctly, there was another thread like this here... I'll try to run a search and repost the link again. HTH. :) Have a fine day. :)

SUNNY P. SANTOS

07-09-2007, 07:33 AM

Well, Nikon camera and decent lenses and accessories, tripod, lighting system, lots of camera bags, workstation, fast and reliable computer and an understanding wife who doesn't ask where do I get the money to finance everything including my upcoming home studio. BTW "Welcome to DPP."

Earl Gonzalez

07-09-2007, 10:09 AM

Search took 3.85 seconds... :D

Anyway, HERE (http://www.digitalphotographer.com.ph/forum/showthread.php?t=6313&highlight=basic+studio+equipment) is the link to a similar thread... Oh yeah, "Youkuzo"... Welcome to DPP. :)

UPDATE: **Threads Merged...**

howell santiago

07-09-2007, 10:53 AM

willy_palacios

07-09-2007, 11:19 AM

Welcome to DPP Pat, just browes around & you might find what your looking for also try out the search function since this has been discussed here for sometime now.

basil carating

07-09-2007, 11:30 AM

wow, how old is this post? ngayon ko lang nabasa.

i too would be very interested in this workshop if it pushes thru.
i've been planning on buying some studio lights and it would help if i can hear what the experts has to say muna.

count me in.. yun eh kung may space pa.

many thanks! :)

HI HOWELL,

THIS THING IS CURRENT AND WILL FINALLY HAPPEN. please watch out for red dungca's thread after i come back with the guys from boracay. he will post the announcement soon as we pin down the date which most probably will be the first weekend of august. we endeavour to have this eb/workshop totally of no cost to everybody-including food to keep us going. rey baptista has promised to help us with the venue and some logistics and is very active in organizing this. maybe some help and pointers too from aly reyes will smooth out the preparations. we will ask some kind of a sponsorship too from other people and entities. watch out for the thread.

leni llapitan

07-09-2007, 11:39 AM

nino_carandang

07-09-2007, 11:43 AM

michael, what's your budget?

at the same time, how high is your ceiling, can you post photos of the area that you will be putting up your studio in?

Ronald Sanchez

07-09-2007, 12:08 PM

Can a newbie join? I would love to learn from yu guys. I recently joined a model photo EB and sad to say that my shots seemed it was shot by a p&s cam.

Have we got a venue yet?

Please include me.

mikealim

07-09-2007, 05:14 PM

Will surely follow this thread.. been shooting landscape and models but haven't really tried shooting in a studio because I don't know anything about studio lighting hehehee.. very fortunate that Sir Basil will share this for free.. kudos! :)

Roy Albert Macam

07-09-2007, 10:37 PM

can i join you guys too? planning to have a simple lighting setup also.

Erwin B. Mallari

07-10-2007, 07:00 PM

Me too?! can I join?!

joshvillanueva

07-10-2007, 09:21 PM

It would be nice if someone could post like a real basic setup to be able to take portraits at home for a budget of about 10-20K. Which particular types of equipment are necessary and what they are for etc. What we can live without while playing around with the basic setup.

randytamayo

07-10-2007, 11:04 PM

Basic setup is really a very subjective term.

You would be surprised to see how much you can do with a good north/south window (yes, your bintana) and a reflector (5K for a good large one in Hidalgo) can do. Now add to that a flash head (you can use it for your events too!) and you can start exploring.

Archie Sy

07-10-2007, 11:08 PM

me too... can i join? I would love to learn from the masters.

Jeruel B. Ibañez

07-10-2007, 11:36 PM

I'm also interested to join. :) I hope the date is favorable for me and to most of the participants.

Mario Wong II

07-13-2007, 07:13 PM

could i join too guys?really need to learn proper lightings...man i have no knowledge with good lighting at all...:)

Alex Romasanta Adjawi

07-28-2007, 11:45 AM

michaelsalomon

07-28-2007, 12:05 PM

elo .. would like to suggest lang as a newbie=)

plain backgrounds are still classic and very reliable for studio=)

and if you get bored with those plain backgrounds... and start doing more complicated concepts... its fun to do set designs inside a studio =)

basil carating

07-28-2007, 08:17 PM

Hi all! I'm thinking of starting a studio using digital backgrounds. Anyone ever experienced using Spectravue Model 200 or 300? How was it?

What are some basic studio equipments that can go with digital backgrounds? model/brand suggestion please. Really appreciate your thoughts on this.

Heaps thanks! :)

investing in a front projection background (virtual bacground) is a major decision and is hardly basic at all. you must have the funds, readiness and the commitment, not to mention the photographic competence to be able to use and enjoy all its features and conveniences -to ultimately recoup your investment. if you are a hobbyist and do not have a regular portrait studio, that system is destined to become the most expensive "sampayan" (cothesline) in the world!

i had a scene machine about a couple of decades ago and the possibilities it afforded me was so awesome. it made my studio life so easy and simple, it wasn't even funny. your portrait subject could be in front of the great pyramids of egypt, or the eiffel tower, niagara falls, mayon volcano, great wall of china, a mushy window beside a scarlett o'hara staircase or even the fires of hell, if someone could paint and photograph it for you- all in the same session!

it consists of a projection unit much like an inverted enlarger with an angled beam splitter in front that projects a background of your choice in sync with your exposure. you literally could have thousands of different backdrops in your studio collection in the form of transparencies and constantly add to them very inexpensively. your backdrop is a plain highly reflective material, the same perforated screen that they use for IMAX films. the actual unit that your camera sits on adds bulk and heft and the illusion of "expensive" to your camera system so on the marketing side, it ups the WOW factor of your studio considerably. hence, justifiable higher fees. i never had a piece of studio equipment that elicited so much oohs and aahs from clients like the virtual projection backcgound system did.

but customers and their tastes are so feeble. what is leading edge today will be a cheesy dinosaur tommorow. more so with what digital can do these days. the thousands of backdrops in your trunk can also be stored in your computer hard drive and so cheaply used in conjunction with a chromakey backdrop in photoshop- if you are just starting out. so mine is sitting at home in my laundry room but gets regular use when my wife does her weekly ironing.

don't get me wrong though-like i said if you have the time and commitment, the funds and competence to use it, by all means get it. so many top portrait photographers still swear by it. but if you are a hobbyist starting out in the basement of your own home, i say forget it because it would be akin to using a scud missile to kill the proverbial fly.

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z88/coolfotog/Univ_SM.jpg

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z88/coolfotog/Spectravue-300.jpg

basil carating

07-29-2007, 05:38 AM

FROM THE VIRTUAL BACKGROUNDS COLLECTION: WOULD YOU WANT YOUR PORTRAITS TAKEN IN FRONT OF THESE VIRTUAL BACKGROUNDS?

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z88/coolfotog/06.jpg

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z88/coolfotog/4-L.jpg

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z88/coolfotog/illusions1.jpg

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z88/coolfotog/WallsIV-2.jpg

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z88/coolfotog/snow5.jpg

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z88/coolfotog/WallsI-3.jpg

michaelsalomon

07-29-2007, 06:04 AM

hehe sir basil .. nothing beats the thrill of looking for nice locations here in the philippines=)

basil carating

07-29-2007, 07:45 AM

hehe sir basil .. nothing beats the thrill of looking for nice locations here in the philippines=)

not a bad idea actually- and load them pictures in your virtual system..

Alex Romasanta Adjawi

07-30-2007, 01:09 PM

basil carating

07-30-2007, 06:36 PM

Thanks guys. Real insight there from you Basil. The reason i'm considering virtual backgrounds is that you get virtually unlimited, spectacular backgrounds to choose from. The options are virtually limitless. Is it easy to use though?

Nothing wrong with plain backgrounds Michael, it's just that they become dated quite fast and not much flexibility there. Sets are fun to do but they eat up quite alot of space.

easy to use? it's one of the few photographic equipment that almost requires a training seminar for buyers and users. alignment and lighting are two of the most important departments that one should have a mastery of. if you are not careful, you might cast a shadow of your subject on the great pyramid of khufu that is as big as the edifice itself! hahaha

Alex Romasanta Adjawi

07-31-2007, 07:16 PM

oops it's not that user friendly then. guess i will have to arrange for a demo to see this thing for myself, and see if it's worth the hype.

David Guarin

12-09-2007, 07:39 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by michael ryan lim http://www.digitalphotographer.com.ph/forum/../fB_Dark/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.digitalphotographer.com.ph/forum/showthread.php?p=156874#post156874)
Hi DPP memebers!

I would like to ask the Pro on what items i should buy in putting a studio in my house and what are the specific brands. Hope that you can help me with this one. Tnx.http://www.digitalphotographer.com.ph/forum/images/smilies/Drogar-Happy%28DBG%29.gif

Michael Ryan Lim

....so did anyone answer michael's query already???
im also planning to put up a simple home studio (for my kids and for fun) and im looking at this item on ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com/150ws-Studio-Flash-Kit-Soft-box-Stand-FREE-trigger-D3A_W0QQitemZ200179186967QQihZ010QQcategoryZ3860QQ tcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem) is this all i need? i dont have any knowledge in lighting and im just relying on online tutorials:)

thanks

teresabarrozo

12-11-2007, 11:58 PM

Me too!! I want to join. Hope this will push through. :)

Jared Gomez

12-12-2007, 12:27 AM

hi teresa, welcome to dpp.. i think the previous posts have been long overdue.. heheh:) there are a lot of eb's you could join.. just watch out for them in the threads

Me too!! I want to join. Hope this will push through. :)

Vin DelaPena

12-12-2007, 06:47 AM

Me too!! I want to join. Hope this will push through. :)

it did push through. about 4 months ago :D
dont worry, there'll be more, just watch the forums closely :)

earldeanreyes

01-23-2008, 03:48 PM

nino_carandang

01-23-2008, 03:51 PM

can anybody help me setup a basic studio lighting setup.
details on which store, price, brand would be great.
here's what i think i need:

1. 2 Monolight with umbrella/softbox. 100 or 300W?
2. 2 Air cushioned stand
3. lightmeter

thanks in advance!

Earl,

There's a review on lights coming up next issue. You might want to check that out. Anyway, there are several suppliers. How much is your budget?

earldeanreyes

01-23-2008, 03:54 PM

<= 20K. do stores at hidalgo sell a basic package?

ohh lighting setup on the next issue! that would be awesome1

jasonmiraples

01-23-2008, 03:58 PM

Earl,

There's a review on lights coming up next issue. You might want to check that out. Anyway, there are several suppliers. How much is your budget?

That would be nice! Next issue of the Mags?

How about 12K? Can I get the basic? I need something like the one in here: http://www.digitalphotographer.com.ph/forum/showthread.php?p=321550#post321550

Thanks Sir! :Grin:

nino_carandang

01-23-2008, 04:03 PM

<= 20K. do stores at hidalgo sell a basic package?

ohh lighting setup on the next issue! that would be awesome1

yes, a lighting kit review. and yes, stores in hidalgo as well as outside hidalgo (namely, aperture trading) sell lights.

earldeanreyes

01-23-2008, 04:06 PM

salamat sir nino!

Rizel Oliver Jimenez

04-28-2008, 01:02 AM

some questions...

to the thread starter: what brand did you eventually buy? and how much did you spend? what was included in the package? would you recommend it?

to everyone else: whats a good brand for studio lights? how many watts would i need to light up a shot with 8 to 12 max people? what package should i be looking for? how much would that probably be?

also, iv been told about falcon eye, axis, simock and orion....im not familiar with any brands...are these ok?

thnx in advance..:D

seansabado

05-07-2008, 08:48 PM

Hello,

I have a starter kit and I have decided to bring my studio lighting setup to the next level.
can you guys recommend me a setup and estimate cost.

Low Level
Mid Level
High Level

Thanks In Advance.

Cheers
SEAN

Richard Ledesma

05-07-2008, 08:58 PM

for low level, I have jinbei kit which i bought from aperture. give them a call. I also have elinchrome 400bx. Correct me if I'm wrong. I consider elinchrome as a high level. You may also consider bowens but heavy, hensel mono light or speedotron black line. By the way, 400bx is fan cooled.

seansabado

05-07-2008, 09:02 PM

btw i have the jinbei also courtesy of jan @ aperture.
im open for upgrade.

Franz A.D. Morales

05-07-2008, 09:39 PM

if you have a relative or friend in the states, white lightning's ultrazap are selling cheap, about Php12k++. It's discontinued that's why they're getting rid of all their stocks. heavy duty, bulletproof casing(so they say), and WYSIWYG modeling light! It's made in USA(one of the few left), and it performs perfectly! it's what I'm using now and I haven't used it no more than 1/4 power (1600ws)! highly recommended.

elinchrome's great as well (one of the best really), but the price can be prohibitive (correct me if i'm wrong Richard, i'm basing my comment on internet prices:))

NIXZER MOYA

05-07-2008, 10:32 PM

seansabado

05-07-2008, 10:44 PM

@Franz A.D. Morales (http://www.digitalphotographer.com.ph/forum/member.php?u=5123)
@NIXZER MOYA (http://www.digitalphotographer.com.ph/forum/member.php?u=1977)

as you say the problem is location availability.
maybe you can ship a couple to me :) lolx

any setup which is available locally? TIA

Rizel Oliver Jimenez

05-23-2008, 10:16 AM

how about Orion from avenue? anyone tried those?

nino_carandang

05-23-2008, 10:19 AM

how about Orion from avenue? anyone tried those?

I did. We reviewed them in Issue 18. It won the group test.

jasonmiraples

05-23-2008, 10:24 AM

I did. We reviewed them in Issue 18. It won the group test.

OT: Anyone can give us a background price? I'm dying to have one for my future projects...

:Grin::Grin::Grin:

abumagbanua

05-23-2008, 10:24 AM

Franz. pa-borrow. hehehe.
So they're still selling these? just getting rid of all the remaining stock? if you have a relative or friend in the states, white lightning's ultrazap are selling cheap, about Php12k++. It's discontinued that's why they're getting rid of all their stocks. heavy duty, bulletproof casing(so they say), and WYSIWYG modeling light! It's made in USA(one of the few left), and it performs perfectly! it's what I'm using now and I haven't used it no more than 1/4 power (1600ws)! highly recommended.

elinchrome's great as well (one of the best really), but the price can be prohibitive (correct me if i'm wrong Richard, i'm basing my comment on internet prices:))

jasonmiraples

05-23-2008, 10:25 AM

Franz. pa-borrow. hehehe.
So they're still selling these? just getting rid of all the remaining stock?

Abu: You're going to Chicago right? Can you do me a favor? You know what I mean... Harhar...

:Grin::Grin::Grin:

abumagbanua

05-23-2008, 10:28 AM

psst Jason! you're off topic!! just pm me hehehe..
anyway, sure! i'll take a picture of the city for u:)

Abu: You're going to Chicago right? Can you do me a favor? You know what I mean... Harhar...

:Grin::Grin::Grin:

jasonmiraples

05-23-2008, 10:30 AM

psst Jason! you're off topic!! just pm me hehehe..
anyway, sure! i'll take a picture of the city for u:)

Not that one... I mean if you can do me a favor: Purchase the last stock for me if ever... Will PM you for sure if Franz will confirm that they have the stock pa.

:Grin::Grin::Grin:

abumagbanua

05-23-2008, 10:35 AM

I think shipping fee is $200 or so:d
Sorry bro, I don't think I can bring this. I'll be travelling (and with local flights, you're allowed much less baggage weight).

I'll bring you a bar of kitkats though :) Not that one... I mean if you can do me a favor: Purchase the last stock for me if ever... Will PM you for sure if Franz will confirm that they have the stock pa.

:Grin::Grin::Grin:

jasonmiraples

05-23-2008, 10:39 AM

I think shipping fee is $200 or so:d
Sorry bro, I don't think I can bring this. I'll be travelling (and with local flights, you're allowed much less baggage weight).

I'll bring you a bar of kitkats though :)

Hehehehe... Ok! Will check na lang locally... Product Shot is nearly coming again for my next project. :D

Kitkat???? Why don't Tovleron??? (Trans: Pambansang Chokolate)

:Grin::Grin::Grin:

Rizel Oliver Jimenez

05-23-2008, 10:40 AM

I did. We reviewed them in Issue 18. It won the group test.

oh, i dont have this issue..what other brands was it pitted against sir?

nino_carandang

05-23-2008, 10:42 AM

oh, i dont have this issue..what other brands was it pitted against sir?

Orion's Fusion versus Visatec 800's versus Hensels

Rizel Oliver Jimenez

05-23-2008, 10:53 AM

Orion's Fusion versus Visatec 800's versus Hensels

whats the price range for these sir? :D

nino_carandang

05-23-2008, 10:56 AM

whats the price range for these sir? :D

for the whole set, between 50-80K

Rizel Oliver Jimenez

05-26-2008, 04:34 PM

for the whole set, between 50-80K

how many lights are included in the orion set sir?

John Edward Taca

05-27-2008, 08:25 PM

how about Orion from avenue? anyone tried those?

I have one. lighting should be about good power and control which this brand offers among other benefits.

that article/ review isnt BS at all!

i hope you see this wilson...

seansabado

05-28-2008, 12:44 AM

Digis 600 is impressive with its value and performance.

Rizel Oliver Jimenez

05-28-2008, 01:12 AM

I have one. lighting should be about good power and control which this brand offers among other benefits.

that article/ review isnt BS at all!

i hope you see this wilson...

which model do you have sir? :D

AnthonyFrancisco

06-16-2008, 08:07 AM

any body knows how much these cost?? Where can it bought?

Richard Ledesma

06-16-2008, 08:13 AM

I heard it's about 1 m pesos.

AnthonyFrancisco

06-17-2008, 08:36 AM

this Eqiupt. worth 1M? nice... "maybe in our dreams I can afford this"

jamesfuertes

07-18-2008, 04:49 PM

I wanted to setup a home studio and I have been lurking around the two forums, but I still could not decide how should I start. I have a 20K to 25K budget and here are the options that I'am thinking of ....

1) Get a wireless strobist Kit or a softbox strobist kit ( I don't have a hot shoe mount flash yet, so maybe I could get a pair of Nissin Speedlite and two of the strobist kit, but I do not know if that is enought)
2) Get a Studio flash kit ( Delicacy or Falcon eyes,....)

Which do you suppose would be a better option between the two? I plan to use it on family portraits (me, wife and two toddlers ) and product shots. By the way, it won't be a work horse....just for personal use :Evil:

Carlo Leonardia

07-18-2008, 04:58 PM

The strobist kit, if my memory serves me right, should give you enough to start with.

Instead of getting two third party flashes (Nissin in your case), why not get 1 third party and 1 oem, that way you will have at least one flash that is fully optimized for the system you are using. Handy for those days when you go out and use just one flash mounted on the hotshoe. If you can stretch the budget a little bit more, then get two oem flashes na, you won't regret it. :D

Since you don't have a flashgun yet, I'd get one first before thinking abt the studio flash kit.

Happy strobing.

jamesfuertes

07-19-2008, 05:49 AM

Since you don't have a flashgun yet, I'd get one first before thinking abt the studio flash kit.

Happy strobing.

Actually I'm planning to get an SB900 as my on camera flash, but I do not think it will be out by next month. Should be available pa in our country by end of the year, I can't wait that long :(

I have read some good and bad about the studio kits, but my only concern is will it do the job for my requirements. I'll be doing full body portraits of my family and some small product shots for my business :Shock:

frederickagustin

11-27-2008, 04:58 PM

alex.cunanan

11-27-2008, 05:09 PM

sounds like a very good value for money package.. specially where i am standing... paid almost triple that amount for the same equipment here in Dubai.

Rey Bugia

11-29-2008, 10:07 AM

I would like to setup a simple studio (Budget is around 15-20K) and I need your opinion about this setup:

SET 2: 160W Compact Studio Strobe SetSET 2 includes:
3pcs. SK-M160 (160W) Compact Studio Strobe Flash
3pcs. LS-803 Light Stand 6ft
1pcs. Softbox 60x90
2pcs. Softbox 40x60
1pcs. Reflector Umbrella 43" (Black/White)
1pcs. 2side Round Reflector 56cm (Silver/Gold)
1pcs. Studio Strobe RF Trigger Set (1 Channel)
Price: PHP 14,500.00

Is this a good setup for portraits and glamour shots on a 13x13 sq/feet studio.

Your comments are very much welcome.

Thanks!:)

I was thnking of the same set up too! For starters, this is really a good set. Inexpensive and having three lights makes it versatile. I think I know where you got this price list. I would just like to point out some disadvantages:

1. You'll learn this later, but you will ask for a much more stronger strobe. You may want to upgrade one of your lights to a 300 or even a 600. I know the site you look at can upgrade.

2. I saw the lightstands, and they are pretty flimsy. and you can't get them to go as high as 6 ft(they are actually 6'3 in height total) and then bend/bow them down on your model without the risk of the stand falling down. Better upgrade to the 9 feet version

3. Also add some snoots, grids, etc as you will need them. try to haggle (it will be hard since their chinese).

The set is pretty cheap compared to other strobes, but they are made in china. As long as you are careful with your stuff, they'll last long. Happy shooting!

randytamayo

11-29-2008, 10:33 AM

^ Make sure that if you get the 300ws or 600ws, you will be able to lower the power when needed. Placing the light further from the subject to get that lower power gives a different light effect compared to a closer light - using the same modifier on the light.

As with everything, you can have too much. And you definitely do not want to be shooting at f/16 up either.

frederickagustin

12-19-2008, 11:02 AM

I was thnking of the same set up too! For starters, this is really a good set. Inexpensive and having three lights makes it versatile. I think I know where you got this price list. I would just like to point out some disadvantages:

1. You'll learn this later, but you will ask for a much more stronger strobe. You may want to upgrade one of your lights to a 300 or even a 600. I know the site you look at can upgrade.

2. I saw the lightstands, and they are pretty flimsy. and you can't get them to go as high as 6 ft(they are actually 6'3 in height total) and then bend/bow them down on your model without the risk of the stand falling down. Better upgrade to the 9 feet version

3. Also add some snoots, grids, etc as you will need them. try to haggle (it will be hard since their chinese).

The set is pretty cheap compared to other strobes, but they are made in china. As long as you are careful with your stuff, they'll last long. Happy shooting!

Thanks for the info.

I came by to the shop again in Binondo and I think I have to upgrade 1 of the strobe to 200/300 and also one light stand to 9 feet.

Another thing is to replace 1 piece of the 160 watts with a Sunpack flash so I could use it if it's not a studio shoot.

So the setup will be a 200/300 watts main light, a 160 watts and a Sunpack flash. All this with softboxes.

Still thinking though.

I was supposed to buy a 70-300mm Sigma lens but when I notice that i shoot more indoors doing portraits and rarely outside i think I'm going to enjoy this basic setup.

http://www.digitalphotographer.com.ph/forum/images/smilies/Drogar-BigGrin%28DBG%29.gif

danviloria

12-19-2008, 11:20 AM

HELLO, FRED

WHERE DID YOU bought THIS COMPACT STUDIO SET-UP SET UP? THANKS

Marlo Moya

12-19-2008, 11:33 AM

I think you will end up disappointed with the setup you just mentioned.

Always remember, that even though you can start low on the business of photography, not everything low is good for you. When you have flimsy stands on a small studio like your 13x13, chances are, they'll get tramped in, bumped on to, walked through and all that, and on your 20th client sitting, you'll have no more stands to use while thinking you haven't got your investments back yet.

Upgrade the heads to 300 watts minimum, look for the manual adjustable (if not digital) lamp power output knobs, and also with the modeling lamp feature.

Look for a stronger stand. but at 13 x 13, and you said you'd be a portraitist, i think you can use a wall mounted strobe mounting kit or maybe a ceiling mount, this will save you much floor space and less clutter, they are a bit heavy on the pocket though, but learn to weigh your options, you will not be able to dismantle these and bring on site locations, so weigh your options. On soft boxes, get a rectangular one and 2 squares, this will save you even more space. Light modifiers are also important, experiment on what kind of light it can provide.

My two cents. Enjoy the shutter!

frederickagustin

12-22-2008, 03:43 PM

Thoughts are pouring in . . .

Thank you! ^_^

Really appreciate your ideas.

Actually I was contemplating on upgrading or even buying a single unit as a start. But one light will not be versatile enough. So with really tight budget, I mean very tight (PHP15,000 hard earned cash) A lighting with 600 watts main light will eat most of the budget.

For a start my 15K budget will yield 3 lights with some very minor upgrades - and I'm ready to shoot. See link:

http://www.tayhua.com/studiopackage.html (This also answer the query where to buy the package)

I don't expect to see some really AAA Class output, but with the demo and output that I've seen, I could say that my hard earned 15K will make me a happy serious hobbyist.

I think the package is good "for starters", it's either I spend it on a lens (which I decided not to) 'coz I will not be able to use it weekly; or the basic lighting package (link) above where I can shoot my kids, family members and also some friends almost weekly.

So here's on my head:

- 200W with 60x90 softbox (main light) 9 ft. stand
- 160W (or 120W) with 40x60 softbox 6 ft. stand for the fill
- 120W with 40x60 softbox as an overhead (hope this last light will still be included on my 15K) All the lights can be adjusted manually with lamp power output knobs, and also with the modeling lamp feature.

for 15K, more or less, this, I think, can draw a smile on my face.

I think on a VERY tight budget, it's either that, or just one 300 watts main light (for 2008) and I will buy the second light (2009) then the third light after 2010, then I could start to shoot after T_T.

frederickagustin

12-24-2008, 09:47 AM

I've read some good reviews and saw some good portraits using a Jinbei Delicacy from Aperture, around 15K.

Asked Aperture for a quote:

For quotation:

Jinbei

1 pcs 250 watts digital flash unit
2 pcs 150 watts digital flash unit

Softbox

1 pc softbox 80 x 100cm
(Can this softbox work with the 250W Jinbeei Digital Flash unit?)
1 pc 50 x 70 softbox
1 pc 55cm octagonal softbox

Stand

1 pcs Aluminum Grand Light stand (Is this 9 feet? max height)
2 pcs Aluminum Light stand (Is this 6 ft max height?)

Others

1 pc D-honeycomb
1 pc barndoor, gel filter
1 pc Studio flash carrying bag
1 pc Light stand bag
1 pc 32” 5 in 1 reflector
1 pc IR Trigger (for my Nikon D40)

Price: ____________

#############################

Jinbei

1 pcs 250 watts digital flash unit
2 pcs 150 watts digital flash unit

Softbox

1 pc softbox 80 x 100cm
(Can this softbox work with the 250W Jinbei Digital Flash unit?)
1 pc 45 x 45 softbox
1 pc 55cm octagonal softbox

Stand

1 pcs Boom stand that could work on one 150 watts Jinbei flash
2 pcs Aluminum Light stand (Is this 6 ft max height?)

Others

1 pc D-honeycomb
1 pc barndoor, gel filter
1 pc Studio flash carrying bag
1 pc Light stand bag
1 pc 32” 5 in 1 reflector
1 pc IR Trigger (for my Nikon D40)

Price: _________________