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frank tsai 12-20-2007, 04:10 PM Dear DPP members
We would like to inform our members that Ilford black and white film is already available here. Sizes includes 135mm,120mm, 4x5 , 5x7 and 8 x10 negative.
Please PM me for detail and pricing. or contact me at 732-8991 or 741-9743
MelvinSevilla 12-20-2007, 05:17 PM Hello Frank,
Thanks for the good news! Can you PM me the prices (interested in the 135mm format)? Thanks a lot!
Paulus Mangio 12-20-2007, 06:09 PM Great news!:) Can you PM for prices? Thanks!
Derick_Gamboa 12-20-2007, 08:13 PM Frank, Do you carry these? Price please? PM reply. And so we would not violate any policy of selling, can you please describe the difference and characteristics of the various Ilford films.. Obviously ASA is a given in their difference. I'm referring to, processing, and printing particularly on large prints.:Grin::)
http://www.pbase.com/manilaman04/image/81305958.jpg
Vic Rosales 12-21-2007, 12:45 AM Awesome. Will you have them at the branch next to DPI Makati? Was just there this afternoon to get some prints and didn't see any film.
Marton_Benitez 12-21-2007, 12:52 AM Would love some FP4 and HP5 :)
delfinotiongco 12-21-2007, 01:55 AM Derick,
Here is a good link from Ilford on their film specs. Check the Fact Sheets tab.
http://www.ilfordphoto.com/products/producttype.asp?n=3&t=Consumer+%26+Professional+Films
joseph barretto 12-21-2007, 02:17 AM hp5 here i come!
joseph barretto 12-21-2007, 02:17 AM Frank, Do you carry these? Price please? PM reply. And so we would not violate any policy of selling, can you please describe the difference and characteristics of the various Ilford films.. Obviously ASA is a given in their difference. I'm referring to, processing, and printing particularly on large prints.:Grin::)
http://www.pbase.com/manilaman04/image/81305958.jpg
i want those reala's derick!!
joseph barretto 12-21-2007, 03:19 PM called your office/store today and you only have delta's?
what about hp5's? :(
daniel go 12-21-2007, 04:11 PM Pardon my ignorance but can these be developed by ordinary film developers?
cruzron 12-22-2007, 03:50 AM with ordinary you mean c41? nope. c41 ilford film is XP2. these need to be processed with BW chems :)
joseph barretto 12-22-2007, 05:06 AM Pardon my ignorance but can these be developed by ordinary film developers?
when you say ordinary, i guess you do mean "C-41" process (the most common process there is)
no, almost all black and white films from ilford are processed with black and white chemicals (kodak d-76, hc-110 and rodinal to name a few, the list goes on)
the only black and white film that ilford has that uses c-41 process is the Ilford XP2 Super.
daniel go 12-22-2007, 11:33 AM thanks for the info sir Joseph and Sir Robert :)
JasonTan 02-05-2008, 11:16 AM Sir frank tsai,
Is the aforementioned Ilford XP2 super available in your shop?
Since it is processed using C-41 process, can it also be printed using paper like the ones used for color negative film?
Cheers!
jayjavier 02-05-2008, 11:47 AM Sir frank tsai,
Is the aforementioned Ilford XP2 super available in your shop?
Since it is processed using C-41 process, can it also be printed using paper like the ones used for color negative film?
Cheers!
Chromogenic BW (the class to which XP2 and other C41 BW belong) were made with the 1 hour lab in mind. So it is not only compatible with colour negative film processing, the negative was designed to be printed on regular "Type C" (the formal term for "wet" lab colour paper) with ease as well. I haven't seen the current XP series films yet, but most chromogenics are masked - meaning the base is tinted orange or brown to allow them to be compatible with Type C paper printing.
Note too, that most labs now use scanning printers. Negatives are scanned first and it is the digitised data which actually goes on paper, exposing it with tiny bursts of RGB light. Scanning neutralises the BW negative, so it is no longer critical if the BW neg is of the traditional unmasked silver type or the masked chromogenic dye type.
Jay
jayjavier 02-05-2008, 11:54 AM Sizes includes 135mm,120mm, 4x5 , 5x7 and 8 x10 negative.
Sorry for a bit of nitpicking:
There is no such thing as 135mm or 120 mm. :)
"135" and "120" are number designations originally devised and assigned by E.Kodak for their daylight loading 35mm and the 20th version of a 6cm wide rollfilm, respectively. The "1" (first figure) is actually a code which indicates that the film can be loaded in daylight. These numbers have no metric connection, though 135 itself was coined by adding "1" to 35 (movie film) differentiate the factory-loaded film in cassettes from 35mm film which the user respooled in 35mm camera cassettes.
The more accurate way of designation is just plain 135 or 120. Or 35mm film.
And one more thing. ASA is no longer used officially. Since around 1980 as a matter of fact. ISO is more correct. :)
Jay
JasonTan 02-05-2008, 12:06 PM @jayjavier
Thanks for the info.
I have used an Ilford XP2 super during the 2003 lunar new year celebration in chinatown. When I sent it to the lab (Kodak - along t. pinpin st.), they said that they can only process it and are not able to print it. So I had to scan the negatives and print them myself. Now I know that they were mistaken. Maybe the lab guys there were unfamiliar with the film then. I'll give the film one more try. :)
Thanks again.
jayjavier 02-05-2008, 12:18 PM @jayjavier
Thanks for the info.
I have used an Ilford XP2 super during the 2003 lunar new year celebration in chinatown. When I sent it to the lab (Kodak - along t. pinpin st.), they said that they can only process it and are not able to print it. So I had to scan the negatives and print them myself. Now I know that they were mistaken. Maybe the lab guys there were unfamiliar with the film then. I'll give the film one more try. :)
Thanks again.
Welcome Jason.
That is true. Some labs really can't handle chromogenics, especially if they use optical (path= light source -> negative -> paper) printers. A lab printer needs to be 'programmed' with channels -just like the colour profiles digital photographers use in their workflows- to enable it to print negatives of different makes properly. It is likely that the printer was programmed only with channels for the more commonly used negative films. And since that was in 2003, it's also possible that the printer you went to still used an optical printer.
Now, its no longer so. Negatives are scanned first. The film type is no longer as critical- any type is read, simply as film. It could be a negative, a colour transparency, or BW negative. The scanned input is processed by the printer's software before the digitised image is committed to paper. :)
Jay
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