View Full Version : Super Sharpener (Warning to Photographers)


jonkung
12-20-2007, 10:11 AM
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c113/ciecam97/Restored.jpg

Warning: Photographers do not simply distort or blur your images because imaging scientists may able to recover them. :Evil:

Ramir Borja
12-20-2007, 11:05 AM
skeptical. link please.

jonkung
12-20-2007, 11:17 AM
http://www.general-cathexis.com/manual2/WritingLens10.png
http://www.general-cathexis.com/manual2/WritingLens10LadSlope0.01.png

http://www.general-cathexis.com/manual2/3100zRadius10.png
http://www.general-cathexis.com/manual2/3100zLadRadius10Slope0.01Curve0.01.png

http://www.general-cathexis.com/manual2/index.html

nino_carandang
12-20-2007, 11:25 AM
is this a plug in?

jonkung
12-20-2007, 11:30 AM
is this a plug in?

No, its standalone and very very complicated. You can try FocusMagic http://www.focusmagic.com/exampleforensics.htm and its has Photoshop plug-in and more user friendly but less powerful. Actually you need a supercomputer to effectively process these sort of images. :)

diegodanila
12-20-2007, 11:46 AM
WOW this is FANTAVELOUS!!!!. Who needs VR, IS or OS anyway.:)

Vic Rosales
12-20-2007, 12:42 PM
Why not just be more careful with camera settings? I'm skeptical even a super computer can create an image out of something that isn't really there.

What about motion blur?

jonkung
12-20-2007, 03:21 PM
Yes, it cannot until human imagination and intelligence can be translated into computer languages and feed to it. Actually blurring here is not randomly created. Being able to figure out these patterns unique to each blurring effects allow the computer to form mathematical equations to reverse the effects and recreate back what seems already lost to the eye. Motion blur is definitely another type of blur and computer need a few parameters to create another set of mathematical equations to reverse the effects. :).



Why not just be more careful with camera settings? I'm skeptical even a super computer can create an image out of something that isn't really there.

What about motion blur?

Jonathan Dael
12-20-2007, 09:30 PM
interesting and very logical.. can it decipher layers of blurring :)

David Tong
12-20-2007, 10:17 PM
I remembered seeing something like this for forensic and police surveillance purposes like plate numbers, blurred faces caught on CATV etc...

willy_palacios
12-20-2007, 11:56 PM
....so those scenes in CSI are for real? :Scared:

markglensantos
12-21-2007, 12:16 AM
I guess software blur can only be sharpened with that tool since the blur process itself has an algorithm , and the tool made the reverse of it :D But analog blur (motion,DOF) I doubt It can sharpen that :P

markrgitol
12-21-2007, 10:07 AM
Looks interesting. Truly imaging software has come a long way. But the chances of a blurred image staying in the memory card decreases from 100% to 10% after the photographer chimps. It'd be lucky if it reaches the photographer's computer. Well, unless it's the CIA. :Grin:

AndrewTungBorlongan
12-21-2007, 02:35 PM
very interesting read. thanks for sharing jon :)

mark joseph lape
12-24-2007, 12:38 AM
why is it a warning to photographers? I don't get it.

Alden Arellano
12-24-2007, 06:08 AM
NASA can do it. Remember when the space shuttle Columbia disintegrated upon re-entry. The camera that had the best view of the cause (falling insulation during take-off) was 40km away. Took months to clean, magnify and sharpen the footage. They HAVE the resources.

David Tong
12-24-2007, 06:26 AM
Hmm, come to think of it, why nga?

why is it a warning to photographers? I don't get it.

aaron ebio
12-24-2007, 06:39 AM
HMMM. i think the "WARNING" goes for those pervs submitting their GF's pics on amateur websites. aahahaha. ( toink.)

mark joseph lape
12-24-2007, 12:20 PM
HMMM. i think the "WARNING" goes for those pervs submitting their GF's pics on amateur websites. aahahaha. ( toink.)

haha. I know what you mean. :Evil:

John Jolbe
12-24-2007, 02:05 PM
Wow impressive tech. it has the same similarity system on CCTV Video control software.
thanks for sharing this BrO!:) Happy Holidays!

Jowel Putian
12-24-2007, 02:50 PM
....so those scenes in CSI are for real? :Scared:

i've been watching a lot of CSI and now im starting to lessen my doubts on this sharpening techy used on that tv show... well, if it's the government working, why not? hehhe:Grin:

jonkung
12-24-2007, 04:04 PM
Because it may reveal the pimples and blackheads on your subject faces despite painstakingly trying to hide them using lighting and camera tricks. :D


why is it a warning to photographers? I don't get it.

jonkung
12-24-2007, 04:09 PM
Some more interesting stuff on what image processing science can do.

http://www.bialith.com/BAResearch.htm

Jowel Putian
12-24-2007, 05:38 PM
Because it may reveal the pimples and blackheads on your subject faces despite painstakingly trying to hide them using lighting and camera tricks. :D

honga! hehehe:Grin:

Jon Almario
12-24-2007, 05:59 PM
maybe it's similar to this...

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/10/08/interpol-untwirls-a-suspected-pedophile/?hp

Alan.Gurling
12-24-2007, 08:09 PM
I saw this article on TV, they caught this guy who had his face blurred in a lot of kiddie porn pics. They were able to reverse the blurring process, and make his face a real one, a real monster actually because he looked like a weird guy. LoL

Nevertheless, it seems to work, to an extent.

pipo_domagas
12-27-2007, 12:04 PM
anyone who has serial number...

Nick Tuason
12-27-2007, 12:17 PM
Without having read any of the links I don't think this is what you really would call sharpening. Sharpening is really putting light and dark halos next to each other to give a greater sense of clarity. This is deconvolution algorithm-- unblurring a blurred image. No amount of sharpening can put a blurred image in focus. It will take super algorithms to do that.

mitzpicardal
12-27-2007, 12:26 PM
Anything that is done in software can be reversed by software. Math can be demathed :D

mitzpicardal
12-27-2007, 06:22 PM
Without having read any of the links I don't think this is what you really would call sharpening. Sharpening is really putting light and dark halos next to each other to give a greater sense of clarity. This is deconvolution algorithm-- unblurring a blurred image. No amount of sharpening can put a blurred image in focus. It will take super algorithms to do that.

Sir, I think deconvolution is also a sharpening technique (and i believe it's the most advanced sharpening technique). Sharpening a blurred image is perfectly possible if the exact way the image was blurred (convoluted) is known.

Derick_Gamboa
12-27-2007, 06:42 PM
Anything that is done in software can be reversed by software. Math can be demathed :D

This is a scary thought. Engineered solutions and be reversed (engineering) that why the likes of China is flourishing.......Cloning......... :Shock: :Evil: :Shock: :Evil: