Hi im thinking of offering my service, but still not sure about the rate. is 1,000 of 100-150 photos and 20 of it are edited? how about if group pics, same yung rate of higher?? im only using D40x 18-135 & 50 1.8, but will order this week sb800. Also you can check my photos @ kingcom.multiply.com

it is difficult to cover event w/out external flash most especially indoors. hope you can get a SB 800 first. you can offer at least 5k per event or more than that. good luck

tnx, how about if group photos lang? outdoor shoot? like start around 2pm up to 6 in the evening.

Group shot is hard to shoot, some other people not paying attention, we are usually set about 3 strobes indoor or 1 strobe outdoor

hmmm, hope to have a client before end of the year, sobrang magastos na itong hobby.

You have a great photo set, Bro! You should start believing in yourself and charge appropriately. You don't even need a flash na nga eh. You have great PS skills!

You have a great photo set, Bro! You should start believing in yourself and charge appropriately. You don't even need a flash na nga eh. You have great PS skills!


i concur... you have a good eye :Grin:

hehehe tnx, got my sb800 yesterday. we will have a photoshoot with a new model this coming friday... how about my rate is 1,200 for 100 photos and 20 of it are edited. is that ok?

How much time will you consume having 100 photos? and how long will you take editing 20 photos?

Bro, sa manila there are people who charge PS P3,500 per hour

How much time will you consume having 100 photos? and how long will you take editing 20 photos?

Bro, sa manila there are people who charge PS P3,500 per hour


wow 3,500 per hour??!!! even for 1,200 not many people here are interested too bad, they say its a bit expensive. Well most of my previous photoshoots i would consumed around 3gigs in RAw format so around 200-250 photos half day. time spent editing depends it may only take 10mins from Raw to jped conversion, or 40 mins per photo if i have no idea what im going for.:D

I assume you shot the pictures in "captivated" album with Dustin. Cool shots. For me, 1,200 is too low for the good quality pix you put out.

I assume you shot the pictures in "captivated" album with Dustin. Cool shots. For me, 1,200 is too low for the good quality pix you put out.


yup, and where going to have another photoshoot this friday hope it wont rain. Thats the problem people here are surprise for my asking rate, but these are people who are contented with their camphone and friendster. I really need to meet the right people here in cdo.

Never price your self cheap, like you said gear is expensive, then what you charge should be able to pay for your equipment. You spent for the camera why will you let other benefit from it by charging too low. Factor your time (meeting clients, shooting, processing and delivery), add depreciation of your gear, expenses, insurance and profit. If you think you are already capable of the job being tasked then price your work correctly. Increasing your price in the future is not as easy as you think, imagine if you spoil your clients to P. 2,000 per event how are you going to convince them that you are now worth P. 3,000 per event, what will happen is they will just look for another P. 2,000 per event photographer since what you did convinced these clients that there is such cheap but good photographers.

I find that more and more people are getting into photography for the wrong reasons, profit, its not that it's bad to make money out of photography, its just these people tend to try to learn the craft as quick as possible. So what happens is they never have the time to develop their own style but instead become style copycats of the last one that taught them. Just look around and look at the photos posted, it seems like all the photos were done by only a handfull of photographers, since they all look pretty much the same.

Ken

Raychard, you guys in cdo should organize a club. I think that would initiate the standardization of prices (if there is such a thing)

Raychard, you guys in cdo should organize a club. I think that would initiate the standardization of prices (if there is such a thing)


yeah we were thinking of putting up a club for nikon user only. but i still dont whats the latest update. but we do welcome canon users to join us if ever they ask.

hehehe tnx, got my sb800 yesterday. we will have a photoshoot with a new model this coming friday... how about my rate is 1,200 for 100 photos and 20 of it are edited. is that ok?


Ray...That is way too Low...i Charged my Company HK2500 to HK$3000 for an 1 1/2 hour work. That does not include the Printing & Pamasahe.

and to think for my rate im also the one gonna bring my own car, gas is expensive. the problem is photography & editing service here in cdo is not popular yet... already have my first calling cards but still haven't meet right people.

hi richard
pricing there in cdo and bacolod may will not be that far but charging 1500 for all the things you'll give them is way to low. I think you can charge 3000 for that. maybe 2000 without prints, cd only, and just levels, brightness, contrast editing... and a few shots, but when you'll consume 3gig thats big. talking about 300pics in raw or 600 jpgs if (10mp). I remember when i got my 1st payed customer i my self dont know how much to charge. but asking some friends in your area who are in the business already, may be they can give you a figure to start with...
You have great work there (@ multiply). For sure after shooting you cant say that you'll edit only on levels, brightness, contrast, coz i've seen your work and you want every picture to look perfect so you'll take time editing each one. and time is money...

hi richard
pricing there in cdo and bacolod may will not be that far but charging 1500 for all the things you'll give them is way to low. I think you can charge 3000 for that. maybe 2000 without prints, cd only, and just levels, brightness, contrast editing... and a few shots, but when you'll consume 3gig thats big. talking about 300pics in raw or 600 jpgs if (10mp). I remember when i got my 1st payed customer i my self dont know how much to charge. but asking some friends in your area who are in the business already, may be they can give you a figure to start with...
You have great work there (@ multiply). For sure after shooting you cant say that you'll edit only on levels, brightness, contrast, coz i've seen your work and you want every picture to look perfect so you'll take time editing each one. and time is money...


heheheh tnx for droping by my multiply account.. all photoshoot ive done where all x deal, just to have acollection of nice pretty models but doing the same thing all the time made me think when should i start offering my service. i remember months ago my friends wants their sons to have a photoshoot and i asked them 800 and they backout.:Mad:

Never price your self cheap, like you said gear is expensive, then what you charge should be able to pay for your equipment. You spent for the camera why will you let other benefit from it by charging too low. Factor your time (meeting clients, shooting, processing and delivery), add depreciation of your gear, expenses, insurance and profit. If you think you are already capable of the job being tasked then price your work correctly. Increasing your price in the future is not as easy as you think, imagine if you spoil your clients to P. 2,000 per event how are you going to convince them that you are now worth P. 3,000 per event, what will happen is they will just look for another P. 2,000 per event photographer since what you did convinced these clients that there is such cheap but good photographers.

I find that more and more people are getting into photography for the wrong reasons, profit, its not that it's bad to make money out of photography, its just these people tend to try to learn the craft as quick as possible. So what happens is they never have the time to develop their own style but instead become style copycats of the last one that taught them. Just look around and look at the photos posted, it seems like all the photos were done by only a handfull of photographers, since they all look pretty much the same.

Ken

---totally agree with everything you said here :)

hi richard, i saw your site and you have good photo composition and attention to lighting.
Your photoshop skills are good, just pay more attention to the sharpness of your images.

I think you should charge more. Have your photos printed in hard copy, make a portfolio and show it to your prospective clients. Charging 2,500-3,500 per hour may be a good start there in CDO.

Cheers

hi richard, i saw your site and you have good photo composition and attention to lighting.
Your photoshop skills are good, just pay more attention to the sharpness of your images.

I think you should charge more. Have your photos printed in hard copy, make a portfolio and show it to your prospective clients. Charging 2,500-3,500 per hour may be a good start there in CDO.

Cheers

what would be the proper size for those sample image?? 5R ok??

heheheh tnx for droping by my multiply account.. all photoshoot ive done where all x deal, just to have acollection of nice pretty models but doing the same thing all the time made me think when should i start offering my service. i remember months ago my friends wants their sons to have a photoshoot and i asked them 800 and they backout.:Mad:

Here is a good idea I found somewhere. Ask your friends to model for you. One afternoon gig, good 2-3 hours. Pay them P500-P700 (depending on your level of friendship, hehe). Let them sign a model release. After the shoot, edit the shots like you done with those beautiful images and post them on the net. Let your friends know about their pics online. If they need prints or digital files for the friendster galleries, CHARGE THEM. Say, P1,500 8R print, P200 5R, P5,000 per high res file and etc. Mas mahal kung may frame. Tiyak, may bibili na nun. They can't resist, I tell you.

It's either you're that good, or people are just too vain. You decide. :)

what would be the proper size for those sample image?? 5R ok??

Tol, go visit DigiPrint, JT Photoworld or Fans Digital and inquire about their albums. Ok na yun magazine type. That'll be a great option for a portfolio.

what would be the proper size for those sample image?? 5R ok??
Invest in your portfolio:
print your best images larger than 8x10 - use a classy self-mount album from JT's, Group USA or Art leather.

if you plan on doing album layouts, try JT photoworld's albums or The Book USA coffeetable books.

Good quality prints never fail to impress clients even in this world of digital photography

cheers!

I have no idea about pricing jan sa atin but here it's like $100 for 100 shots + $50 for hair and makeup shots will be in photographers studio. If they will go to a location shooting it's a whole different ballgame. And of course if you want to charge really good show them equipments don't look cheap if you want to charge high..

If you will go out with D40 and SB 800, well think twice. Mount the sucker in a stroboframe and look professional at least then charge then good. In reality try to feel your costumer are they cheap? Do they know your equipment? Have they've been shot with real pro and exposed to a real pro equipment? Then you make your fee bracket... Not to mention magaling ka ba mang bola sa costumer... IMHO start cheap then let people come to you more costumer more money. Sabi nga ng Chinese wholesale maliit tubo maramihan naman. That is Buisiness strategy my friend.

If you will go out with D40 and SB 800, well think twice. Mount the sucker in a stroboframe and look professional at least then charge then good. In reality try to feel your costumer are they cheap? Do they know your equipment? Have they've been shot with real pro and exposed to a real pro equipment? Then you make your fee bracket... Not to mention magaling ka ba mang bola sa costumer... IMHO start cheap then let people come to you more costumer more money. Sabi nga ng Chinese wholesale maliit tubo maramihan naman. That is Buisiness strategy my friend.

well here in our place not many people have dslr and most who own one just use it as a point and shoot. and most people doesn't know anything dslr so even d40/d40x they would think its a pro cam, well thats true in cdo,

If that's the case no further comment...So just try to feel those people. I don't know, my heart goes to them. I know how they will try to minimize expenditures just to have a decent wedding.. But if they can pay and they are a member of an elite crowd in CDO then I will stick with my post...

heheheh tnx for droping by my multiply account.. all photoshoot ive done where all x deal, just to have acollection of nice pretty models but doing the same thing all the time made me think when should i start offering my service. i remember months ago my friends wants their sons to have a photoshoot and i asked them 800 and they backout.:Mad:
well 800 is cheap when u go to other studios they will charge u 1k up per pic

i remember seeing a thread here in DPP stating these rates

3500 1st 3 hours
1000 per additional hour

exclusive of prints
inclusive of food

now abt the # of images to be given to the client is up to the negotiations between the photographer and client

abt the flash, a FLASHGUN is a must, also, and a flash modifier is also a must IMHO. I have already used demb, gary fong's lightsphere, stofen, countless DIYs, and IMHO the best i have used so far is SPECTRA LIGHT of lawrence han, u can see the thread here http://www.digitalphotographer.com.ph/forum/showthread.php?t=8352 (and no lawrence didnt pay me to advertize his product)

send him a PM :D