Any feedback on the actual use of this printer compared to the R1800 and how much is this right now? Where can I buy it pala also?

thanks

Vendors are ATI, Globis, and CGI. I use the 7800 which is the 24 inch version of the 4800. Price I believe is around P130,000 for the 4800. Heidi may catch on this post and provide the right price but its around that range.

Ask what you want to know about the 4800 and I'm certain you will get answers here.

hi kristoffer,

the exact price for the PRO4800 is 127,200.00. ink cartridge cost is:

110 ml is 3,360.00
220 ml is 5,380.00

contact numbers:
ATI - 726-3991 (fely aquino)
Globis - 740-5752 (Johnny Tamayo)
CGI - 722-6425 (Josephine Gortega)

hello sir nick, i was wondering, how's the 7800 perform against the 4800 kaya sans the size of the paper supported? also, how much is the 7800? do you use it primarily for the business?

one more thing po pala, the papers? where do you get papers for the 7800 or 4800 printers? these are A2+ and A1+ papers right? how much do they cost?

Kristoffer,

No difference in output quality between 7800 and 4800. The size as you mentioned is different and so are the ink cartridges although they use the same ink set. The 7800 uses pressurized ink cartridges and will not work on a 4800.

I would only suggest getting the 7800 if you really intend to print large pictures past A2. We have it for business because we are a Print-for-Pay studio. We take in Fine Art Printing for photographers who have exhibits and such. Even with this, we hardly print over 20 inch Width. If you are thinking about printing for a wedding business, you may be fine with a 4800. We noticed that our wedding clients now don't need or like to get massive blowups like A1, because they have no place to put it at home. The price difference of a 7800 and 4800 is around P50K and the money you save can go to purchase supplies of inks and paper.

Honestly, I cannot inform you the price of Epson paper because I have been printing exclusively with Ilford for the last two years. (Don't cringe Heidi!) But I am shifting over to Epson when my Ilford stock depletes, which is soon, and will be using the Premium Luster. I can tell you from my tests with Premium Luster, that you won't need to work with special profiles to get a good print. Epson's stock profiles for the 4800 are really really excellent.

Let us know if you have any more questions. We're here to answer them.

To everyone, It's just a matter of question.
Have you tried to pour water of the printed photo produce by Epson or what ever ink printer and what happen?

If you are talking about the Ultrachrome inks on say the older 4000, 7600, 9600 and the new K3 inks in the 4800, 7800, 9800 you can pour all the water you want on the picture and nothing is going to happen to it. These are pigment inks and when combined with the quick dry papers, are impervious to bleeding when they get wet.

Use a dye ink and it will run when touched with moisture. Epson pigments are practically bulletproof and so are the new Canon and HP pigs also.

Now if Ms Heidi can confirm, I hear the new CLARIA Dye set by Epson has been made to be waterproof also. If this is correct, then this is nothing short of revolutionary. Updates Heidi please. :)

sir nick, when you got the 7800 unit, did they deliver it and when it bugs down, i pressume it's being serviced right at the studio tama po ba?

so it's roughly around 177k if the 4800 is at 127k... hmmm, with the warranty secured, not bad of a price. It's like buying a brand new 5D camera :)

also sir, where do we purchase these premium luster papers? roll or sheet and how much? I'm slowly calculating prices just in case i'll bite the bullet :)

The price difference is more like 60K sorry. I bought my 7800 for P189,000. Premium Luster can be sold to you by your dealer, whoever you buy your printer from. There are pros and cons to printing yourself. If you are planning to buy this because you think you will save on your print costs, the simple answer is you won't. Inkjet printing is much costlier. You get into this simply because you want best quality prints. Most people are honestly better off studying a little color management and working closely with a good pro lab. Others, like me, are perfectionists and take everything in-house.

I have not yet had a problem with my 7800 so knock on wood I don't ever. Service is normally done at your place since it is difficult to take these printers in and out. Only when a problem is severe will it be serviced other than your place.

Holler back if you have other questions.

that's very informative sir, if you don't mind may I see a sample print of your 7800 on your most convenient time?

best regards

Kristoffer,

I'd be glad to show you a print. To make it even better, why don't you bring a file with an image in it and I'll print it for you so that you can inspect the quality. Afternoons at Bella Luce are usually best for me. Thursday or Friday looks to be open.

@nick
Regarding anything going wrong with the printer. My advice is get a UPS, an AVR is not enough.

We have an Epson 9600, a small power surge caused a 1 byte damaged on the Board's ROM chip. Everything else was working, we didn't even think anything was wrong, since it had an AVR. Unfortunately we didn't know that there was a damaged board. The printer went to initial charge draining half of your 220ml inks (for all colors) then reboots, then asks for another initial charge.

It took a couple of initial charges before we found out the problem was with the board. Total cost of the board replacement around 35k. Total cost of the genuine epson inks thrown away due to the several recharges was more than 90k.

sir nick, thank you and I will bring a file for print. Bella Luce is where sir?

I"ve learned my lesson too. I'm on UPS now!

@nick
Regarding anything going wrong with the printer. My advice is get a UPS, an AVR is not enough.

We have an Epson 9600, a small power surge caused a 1 byte damaged on the Board's ROM chip. Everything else was working, we didn't even think anything was wrong, since it had an AVR. Unfortunately we didn't know that there was a damaged board. The printer went to initial charge draining half of your 220ml inks (for all colors) then reboots, then asks for another initial charge.

It took a couple of initial charges before we found out the problem was with the board. Total cost of the board replacement around 35k. Total cost of the genuine epson inks thrown away due to the several recharges was more than 90k.

sir nick, thank you and I will bring a file for print. Bella Luce is where sir?

G/F Alvion Center
110 Rada Street
Legaspi Village, Makati City

PM when you plan to visit. Ill be glad to show you.

ok sir nick. I've printed some Super A3 sizes on my R1800 recently and prints are superb.I wonder what the 7800 can do... quite frankly, i'm getting excited to get a pro printer. I just hope i can afford it. :)

hey everyone,

Water resistance is one of the major features of the Ultrachrome K3, during our press launch last year, we showed the actual pouring of water to a print, which was also printed in front of them to show that the press release is not a hoax. All the press in the room were impressed and eventually wrote about it in their respective forums.

Kristoffer:

for the printing workflow, it has been discussed in the other thread of this forum, both workflow for PC and Mac step-by-step procedure were there.

as for the prices for Epson papers, try to contact the numbers indicated above.

If you are talking about the Ultrachrome inks on say the older 4000, 7600, 9600 and the new K3 inks in the 4800, 7800, 9800 you can pour all the water you want on the picture and nothing is going to happen to it. These are pigment inks and when combined with the quick dry papers, are impervious to bleeding when they get wet.

Use a dye ink and it will run when touched with moisture. Epson pigments are practically bulletproof and so are the new Canon and HP pigs also.

Now if Ms Heidi can confirm, I hear the new CLARIA Dye set by Epson has been made to be waterproof also. If this is correct, then this is nothing short of revolutionary. Updates Heidi please. :)

The CLARIA inks are coming VERY SOON. Dye based with a wide color gamut. yes, it has great longevity properties - fade resistance, water resistance and scratch resistance. Rivals and even outperforms your lab prints.

Randy,

Does Epson plan to import the R3800? and if so when??

http://www.outbackphoto.com/news/photokina_2006/essay.html#3800

Still haven't bought myself a printer but I can't really hold off much longer :)

Mike

hi Mike,

the PRO3800 is expected to come in the country 2nd week of december.

Thank's Heidi....

Just been drooling over the 4800 at Cathay Photo....

To many choices now when it comes to 13/17 inch wide printers.

yup, for your large format concerns, ...heidi is the one to blame er..i mean ask hehehe
for epson promo girl matters, that would be me... right Nick?:Grin:

sir nick, can you give us an idea of how much would a print cost using the 7800 on a per square inch basis. i'm operating and photo studio and i'm planning to buy a 7800. many thanks!

To be on the safe side the estimated ink cost/sq inch according to firmware would be P0.6 and the epson papers around P0.5/sq. in.

sir nick, can you give us an idea of how much would a print cost using the 7800 on a per square inch basis. i'm operating and photo studio and i'm planning to buy a 7800. many thanks!

Thanks really for the warning! Is the unit on when the power surge happened?


@nick
Regarding anything going wrong with the printer. My advice is get a UPS, an AVR is not enough.

We have an Epson 9600, a small power surge caused a 1 byte damaged on the Board's ROM chip. Everything else was working, we didn't even think anything was wrong, since it had an AVR. Unfortunately we didn't know that there was a damaged board. The printer went to initial charge draining half of your 220ml inks (for all colors) then reboots, then asks for another initial charge.

It took a couple of initial charges before we found out the problem was with the board. Total cost of the board replacement around 35k. Total cost of the genuine epson inks thrown away due to the several recharges was more than 90k.